16
Dec
09

Here she is – Eric’s Euro-Ho

Ok there’s a picture of her, the actress is Natasha Alam. I’ve never heard of her and don’t know what she’s done before, but it was a challenge finding an image of her fully clothed. Make of that what you will.

Can we move on now?

Let us never speak of this again.

No?

Ugh.

I HATE this character. I hate the very idea of this character. And not because Eric is going to screw her six ways from Sunday either. I’m cool with that, it’s reasonable to assume that Eric was still having sex with randoms at this point in the books – we just didn’t know about it because Sookie didn’t. The vampire has needs, I get that.

I hate this character because they’re trying to pacify us. The writers and Ball think that the increased interest in Eric’s character is due to everyone wanting to see him naked. “New World in my View” – the episode which followed Sookie’s first lusty dream sequence, is the highest rating episode of True Blood to date. Viewers tuned in to see more of what they got the week before, and to see what would happen when Eric and Sookie left Dallas and were face to face again. We got nothing. Oh unless you count Eric playing yahtzee and talking about draining little children. After the rooftop scene we didn’t see E/S in the same scene again for the rest of the season. This was a massive fuck up, and the writers had to have been kicking themselves that they didn’t capitalise on the popularity of the E/S pairing by showing us more in the three episodes that followed. The final three episodes of S2 were written in a hurry and were still in post production up to a week before airing – rather obvious in hindsight since they were such a mess. Ball and Co screwed up the end of season two royally. So in comes Euro-Ho in the first episode of the new season – a cheap plot device to give the writers an excuse to get ASkars clothes off again. Ball and even Alexander have been talking up Naked Eric for weeks.

Fuck you Alan Ball.

I am not a teenager. I am, in fact well past being a teenager. And I really resent being told that my interest in Eric must only be based on sexual infatuation. Yes, the man is pretty. God DAMN he is pretty. That gets my attention – but it takes more than that to keep it.

I keep watching Ball mangle this story in an increasingly vain hope that he will eventually tell it in a way that will honour Eric and Sookie’s arc. I don’t care if that means we don’t get to see ASkars bare arse for another three seasons. What I want to see on this show is an Eric with some semblance of a sense of humour, and Sookie not acting like she wants to punch him in the face every time they’re in the same room. Fuck, at this point I just want to see them in the same room.

The very foundations of their relationship are being eroded by an accumulation of little things. They’re all starting to add up to make Eric unredeemable in Sookie’s eyes. It pisses me off because that’s meant to be how BILL’s character evolves, not Eric’s.

And on that note, I’m sure that Natasha Alam is a very nice lady.

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77 Responses to “Here she is – Eric’s Euro-Ho”


  1. 1 Kasey
    December 16, 2009 at 1:59 am

    FUCK!! That was well said!

  2. 2 Jess
    December 16, 2009 at 2:06 am

    YES! To everything you said, YES!!! I totally agree with every, single word you said. I’m still pissed about the end of season 2. A total disaster in every way and AB has a long way to go in my mind to make up for that royal mess.

  3. 3 walgigi
    December 16, 2009 at 2:17 am

    You, better than anyone here, know exactly my thoughts about AB and TB. So, I can’t add anything to what you’ve written. You were direct, clear and concise in expressing exactly what I think and feel about this. I just want to repeat:

    FUCK YOU ALLAN BALL!!!!!

  4. 4 Kristin
    December 16, 2009 at 2:25 am

    Agreed! I am so sick of the show. Good thing I can go back and read the books over and over 🙂

  5. 5 VampirePamsGirl
    December 16, 2009 at 2:55 am

    Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! and Ditto! You know I’m a big talker (well typer actually) but I really can’t say anything that wouldn’t be exactly repeating what you say here. Well said doesn’t even begin to cover it! *stands up and claps*

  6. 6 Dan
    December 16, 2009 at 3:05 am

    I am upset at this news. Completely on board with you on this. I am male & straight, late 30s. That should matter one bit. I mention it only due to my demographic being lower than most, I suspect. Eric Is not the scumbag Ball is making him to be. I suppose HBO demands he do something to increase profits, thus nakedness. I hate it, but this is probably the reality. And I
    hope this is not due to the demands of MOY & PAC.

    • December 16, 2009 at 11:33 am

      Dan – it’s really interesting to me that you’re outside the demographic this show is obviously pitching at: 15-30 year old women.

      It’s really refreshing to hear the viewpoint of a male outside that “target demographic” who doesn’t think Eric is a scumbag trying to move in on someone else’s woman for the sake of getting down her pants.

      Alot of men I’ve talked with about the show see Eric as a substitute punching bag for the bully/jock at highschool who stole their girlfriend just because they could. TB Eric seems to evoke quite a visceral reaction with some men.

      • 8 ksr
        December 16, 2009 at 9:38 pm

        “…A lot of men I’ve talked with about the show see Eric as a substitute punching bag for the bully/jock at highschool who stole their girlfriend just because they could. TB Eric seems to evoke quite a visceral reaction with some men…” Hah!!! That explains a lot about AB’s insinuations against Eric Northman character! ;)))

  7. 9 walgigi
    December 16, 2009 at 3:40 am

    I forgot to add something, or maybe, repeat it.

    ““New World in my View” – the episode which followed Sookie’s first lusty dream sequence, is the highest rating episode of True Blood to date. Viewers tuned in to see more of what they got the week before, and to see what would happen when Eric and Sookie left Dallas and were face to face again. We got nothing. Oh unless you count Eric playing yahtzee and talking about draining little children. After the rooftop scene we didn’t see E/S in the same scene again for the rest of the season. This was a massive fuck up, and the writers had to have been kicking themselves that they didn’t capitalise on the popularity of the E/S pairing by showing us more in the three episodes that followed.”

    We can thank this to the wonderful AB’s idea of made Tara and Sam LEADS in the series. Eric isn’t, so for them he doesn’t deserves more screen time.

  8. 10 pbsTMI
    December 16, 2009 at 4:57 am

    She’s certainly pretty in that I look just like every other model/actress in Hollywood. It could make an interesting contrast to AP’s more unusual looks.

    I agree with you that it is completely insulting that AB assumes that Eric fans are only concerned with seeing the (admittedly hot Hot HOT) naked body of ASkars. And I know some of what we’re going to see in S3 is going to be prompted by this mistaken view. But maybe there is some potential for this relationship to bring some more dimension to TB Eric–and maybe to the TB E/S dynamic.

    Maybe if we (and by “we” I mean the TB viewers as opposed to the SVM fans) and Sookie get to see another side to Eric, it will give some foundation for an evolution in Sookie’s thinking about him. I mean, we’ve all lamented that as Eric stands now, he’s hardly a suitable option for Sookie–despite ASkars subtly trying to give him more depth.

    And, if she’s really supposed to also play a love interest for Pam, there could be some good comic scenes in that triangle.

  9. 11 Stef
    December 16, 2009 at 6:37 am

    I also completely agree with you. Although, I would be interested to see if there is going to be a bit of a love triangle beween the new ho, Eric, and Sookie. It may make for some good tv. Maybe Sookie will end up getting jealous enough to the point where she starts to believe she has true feelings for Eric. Maybe they will work that into the main reason why Eric is getting another squeeze in the first place. Or maybe he’ll just be getting his rocks off. Who knows??

    • 12 VampirePamsGirl
      December 16, 2009 at 7:21 am

      Wow. You’re much more hopeful for the situation than I am, lol. But yeah, it could be positive maybe if it is spun in the right direction. I just am almost afraid to even hope that it will be because then the disappointment will suck even worse, lol.

      But pbsTMI also makes an excellent point about if this is also supposed to be a love interest for Pam, it could definitely become comical and worth-watching.

      The main thing about it all that upsets me is very similar to what sookieverseblog says. It’s like AB and company have repeatedly kicked Eric fans to the ground, then realized “Whoa, there are a lot of these people that watch our show” and have tried to make up for it by dangling a naked ASkars in front of us. And yeah, ASkars is nice to look at, naked or otherwise, but really it’s kind of insulting for them to insinuate that we have no more depth than that.

      Like nskars says, “I love Eric for the substance he brings to Sookieverse” and I love ASkars cause he’s a really talented actor that adds to the substance of Eric and I’m not just talking about him being gorgeous.

      BTW- I’m not ranting at you, after reading some of this I thought it might sound like it, but this rant has been building for a while now and certainly after this post that so much mirrors what I feel, so this just happened to be where I spewed, lol.

      • 13 Stef
        December 16, 2009 at 7:55 am

        I hear you…it’s difficult to be optimistic—after all the disappointments so far. But, if it’s just for Eric to have his “fun”, I’ll take it in stride. AB didn’t have much Eric in Season 1, but added a bit more dimension to him in Season 2 (even though not much). I do think Eric’s character will span even longer this time…given his popularity and the ability of ASkars giving the multi-faceted Eric the exposure of a charater we all know and love!(clothes on and off:) I’m gonna stay positive…and rant later if needed. Let’s hope there won’t be an exuse to!

  10. 14 nskars
    December 16, 2009 at 7:04 am

    When I first heard about Eric being naked in 3.01 my honest to god response was: “Why?” Yes, ASkars is hot. Yes, we want E/S action at some point. But they are totally undervaluing the character. And they are assuming that we are all nymphomaniacal, hormonal, lovesick teeny boppers!

    I love Eric for the substance he brings to Sookieverse. His brilliance, his honesty, his humour, his charisma, his strength, his passion.

    “What I want to see on this show is an Eric with some semblance of a sense of humour, and Sookie not acting like she wants to punch him in the face every time they’re in the same room. Fuck, at this point I just want to see them in the same room.”

    Once again, sookieverseblog, you have proven what a fantastic writer you are. And I love this post, well done.

    • 15 silver
      April 20, 2010 at 11:49 am

      hahahahah

      ‘nymphomaniacal, hormonal, lovesick teeny boppers’

      i am one of them things 🙂 Still, even I would rather see Eric dressed (and more of him, even more of him with sookie). And I would do anything to see less of Tara. And Bill.

      Bill and his old person hair has to go. I would sacrifice naked skars for that.

  11. 16 Stef
    December 16, 2009 at 7:08 am

    As an aside…I would’ve liked to see Natalie Dormer play the stripper…I dunno why, but I believe Alex and her would have great chemistry on screen. I’ve always wanted to see them in something together. Maybe she’d make a good Claudine.

  12. 18 Belle
    December 16, 2009 at 7:38 am

    Well said as always…. Totally right on all counts. Lets hope Mr Ball is trawling the internet and comes across this blog! Hopefully he will heed your warning. Your next blog should be about Bill proposing to Sookie. GAG….x

    • 19 VampirePamsGirl
      December 16, 2009 at 7:41 am

      Yes, PLEASE, let’s get started on that subject. I have a feeling we could all fill up pages on that one, and I imagine not much of it would be pretty!

    • 21 pbsTMI
      December 16, 2009 at 11:01 am

      Oh, that proposal reeked of the very desperation Bill accused Eric of in 2.08!

      • December 16, 2009 at 11:14 am

        Belle was sitting right beside me when that stupid proposal happened. She’s trying to provoke me, naughty girl 😉

        She witnessed first hand How I Went Off. It was ugly. First the dress showed up all pretty and wrapped LIKE IT CAME FROM ERIC. I lost my shit completely when she opened that note and it was from Bill.

        Then the proposal just came completely out of nowhere, even with the spoiler photos that were leaked before the episode aired I still didn’t see it coming…it was just completely outside my realm of possibilities.

        OMG, I ranted and raved for *weeks*. I can feel myself getting riled up again now…LOL.

        • 23 walgigi
          December 16, 2009 at 7:49 pm

          We hon. WE ranted and raved for *weeks* LOL!!!

          I also want to echo nbu when she write above: “Once again, sookieverseblog, you have proven what a fantastic writer you are”.

        • 24 VampirePamsGirl
          December 17, 2009 at 3:59 am

          I really don’t think you can rant enough about that one, lol. Well, friends and family members of mine might disagree with me, but… And you are so right… as if that damn proposal wasn’t bad enough… the dress from Bill! Ugh, I was so mad, because when she got that box I just knew it was from Eric. That’s like his signature move in the books and it was just all down hill from that point. I know from the amount that I bitch about it you wouldn’t believe that I really do love the True Blood show, but I do love it, but that last Season 2 episode was one of the worst freaking shows ever! I think its a statement that cannot be reiterated enough, lol.

          • 25 Amschafe
            March 16, 2010 at 4:06 am

            I think everyone thought that box was from Eric….i thought Finally! something good for Eric,but no it was from Bill, of course another Eric thing that is given to Bill.

  13. 26 pbsTMI
    December 16, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    This may not be the right post for this comment, but it’s not the wrong post either. So here go my thoughts on how to make peace with and enjoy both TB and SVM.

    As an SVM fan, I sometimes find myself wanting AB to make TB a perfect reflection of SVM. I want the characters to be the same as they are in the books, to do the same things and make the same choices. I feel this way most often about the areas that touch on Eric. However, what I’ve come to realize (or at least comfort myself by thinking) is that AB hasn’t (and never intended to) recreated CH’s Sookieverse. Instead, he’s created an alternate Sookieverse. It’s a parallel Sookieverse where much is the same. But it follows the idea that for each decision we make, there is a parallel universe created in which we take a different path. So, I turned right, but there is another universe where I went left. And what happens if I go left may be either slightly or drastically different than if I went right. Mary Ellen Curtin refers to this as the theme of choices that lead to alternate realities.

    Because what the characters experience is determined by the choices they make, and experience is what creates character, then it is natural that a character in the alternate Sookieverse who made an alternate choice will have a different experience and thus be somewhat different than the character in the “real” Sookieverse. It is within this realm that TB (and all fan-fiction) lives.

    And I’m okay with this idea of TB being the road NOT traveled for the characters in SVM. Some of the changes are for the better and some are not. But it is at the point of the departures from the books that good discussion can be found (example: your blog and all the smart commentators).

    Besides, if I didn’t look at it this way, I would go nuts lamenting how far off the mark AB has taken TB rather than mostly enjoying the show, and only occasionally lamenting the Eric-related departures.

    • 27 walgigi
      December 16, 2009 at 7:30 pm

      In synthesis, as you express it, TB is just fanfic, no more, no less.

      But when you dimension it isn’t written fanfic, but a “visual” story, a TV show, based on 9 (not one, but NINE!) bestsellers with a very defined plot line, with very detailed and layered characters AND with a well structured fanbase composed of thousands of people from around the world… and you also are charging people to watch it (because HBO is PAID television) you can’t afford to be mediocre and have to expect ALL kind of critic if you don’t WANT to make a quality “product”. The show itself is making more and more readers everyday, so no one can blame people if they feel dissaponted and complaint about how weak TB is compared to the original story. And I’m not talking as a airhead teen fan desperate to buy his new TB soda or searching for a Team Eric or Team Bill shirt, I’m a PhD. Psychologist who is able, like a lot of people who doesn’t need a degree to really see what is happening and what AB is doing.

      Inconsistencies between seasons (and even inside the same season), the oversimplified portrayal of characters that lack of depth polarizing them just as good or evil (eg. Saint Bill/Villian Eric), the lack of consistency in characters personalities (eg. Sookie still acting like having a bi-polar disorder between episodes), mediocres f/x (eg. Maryann as the manead “vibatror” among others), and have extremely looong and boring story arcs (as the result of changing secondary characters to be leads and leads to be secondary) are just few of the very well justified complaints of people who expected a quality show, no matter if it’s an original story or one based on the SMV series.

      I, personally, don’t think it’s bad to introduce new charachters and new story archs. This enriches the original story. But why to mess the core of the carachters?? Why to change the core of the original plot which is the inner spirit of the SVM? What’s the purpose on doing that? That’s not even fanfic, because fanfic keeps these two medular elements. It’s stupid to change the winning formula that works best. It’s stupid, and it’s a big mistake because you are KILLING it.

      BUT… AB said once: “I think I have a better story to tell”. If he is such a good writer (that has the incredibe creativity to bring us an ostrich egg just with the purpose of lick it…) then WHY doesn’t he write his own story and create his own charachters the way he wanted them to be? Maybe because (in addition to be a mediocre writer) it is easier to take a 9 bestseller series with a HUGE fanbase already established to ensure an audience and his $ucce$$ and then just destroy the story to tell his. Yes, the man is a genius. A genius and an asshole that after doing that dares to say the show has only 5% of readers. He is such a genius and an asshole that even try to manipulate CH with the smart move of telling people at his last Payley Fest that she “talked out of” killing Bill in order to also manipulate Bills fans and press her to change HER story (because he knows she still has four more books to write). He also succed in manipulate her on echoing him in saying that Eric is bad and cataloging Eric’s fans almost as “nymphomaniacs” (as she has been saying lately)… although HE is the one that insists on showing Eric as a sexual object and even say everywhere his show is a success because it has the two most selling elements on tv: sex and violence. Isn’t funny that Eric won as Best Villian on the Scream Awards when the only villians he had at his show were Renne, Maryann and Steve Newlin (and maybe Lorena)?

      Yes, the asshole manipulator is a genius.

      ps. Please excuse any mistake in my writing because english isn’t my first language.

      • 28 VampirePamsGirl
        December 17, 2009 at 4:22 am

        “ps. Please excuse any mistake in my writing because english isn’t my first language.” Are you kidding? Lol. That was extremely well-written and articulate. I would never have guessed (from any of your posts) that English isn’t your first language. And everything you said is so spot on with how I feel.

        A couple of things you touched on that really irk me that I just have to expand on:

        1. “And I’m not talking as a airhead teen fan desperate to buy his new TB soda or searching for a Team Eric or Team Bill shirt” I hate how if you are a passionate fan of something, it seems like you are always labeled as some lovesick teenager or a desperate housewife or something. I don’t know if that is where you are coming from with this or not, but I’m glad you mentioned it because I feel the same way. I’m 24 years old with a B.S. in Criminal Justice and full time job at a police department. Yet because I feel strongly about a tv show/tv character, it makes me either young or stupid…that’s at least the feeling I sometimes get from comments by some and I really hate that stereotyping.

        2. “everywhere his show is a success because it has the two most selling elements on tv: sex and violence” What I always hate too is how AB always tried to say that TB has appeal to men because of the violence and women because of the sex/romance. That’s just another insulting stereotype to me. I like the good fight scenes, just as much as the good steamy scenes. I cheered every bit as much when Eric ripped the redneck’s arm off and threw it at poor terrified Lafayette as I did when we had the Eric/Sookie dream shown. Truth be told, even though I like some romantic elements in a show or movie, I’d just as soon watch a comedy or an action as a romance movie/show.

        3. Both of you (walgigi and pbsTMI) definitely expressed a lot of what I think is right and wrong with the show. One third thing that really annoys me though is when “bookies” are accused of wanting every element of the show to match the book. Yeah, there is a part of me that would like some scenes re-enacted word for word, but I enjoy that the show can surprise and leaving me wondering what will happen next. I love some of the changes (i.e. Godric, Jessica, Lafayette, Jason). What I mind, like walgigi, is when they mess with the core of the characters, the main characters from the books: Sookie, Eric, Bill, etc. Those books are best-sellers for a reason. People connect with those characters. They are complex and multidimensional characters and when they start to change that on the show, that is when I get upset.

        Like I said, I love the show. If I didn’t, then I wouldn’t care enough to rant and rave about it. But there are just elements from it that I can’t help but speak out about. Plus it lessens my withdrawal effect, lol.

        • 29 nskars
          December 17, 2009 at 11:25 am

          1. Agreed
          2. Agreed
          3. Agreed

          Yesterday when I was dying over Michael McMillian (Steve Newlin)’s tweets, giving us glimpses of ASkars, one of my (male) Twitter friends made a comment about me not having much of a life. I guess it kind of hurt my feelings but it made me a little angry, too. Like, just because I have an interest in these books, this character, the actor portraying him – does that mean that I am either a “lovesick teenager or desperate housewife”? I don’t go around attacking people for things that they are passionate about. I can only assume this guy was jealous of ASkars and his awesome.

          I enjoy True Blood. I like watching it. It’s different from the books and I understand that it is what it is and I accept it. I loved Godric; I like how Jason and Lafayette have more of a role in the series. I like Jessica and Hoyt, too. But of course I prefer the books. I don’t want word for word, scene for scene – but a little truth to the main characters would be nice.

          I know that most of us here feel the same and I appreciate that I can express myself in an environment where I won’t be judged for what I like.

      • 30 nskars
        December 17, 2009 at 11:11 am

        Gigi, you’re awesome.

      • January 3, 2010 at 10:37 pm

        I thoroughly enjoyed your post and I agree about the reasons you cite for the Maenad storyline partial failure.

        I believe another reason for the Maenad storyline failure is that the writers failed to provide sufficient character depth and commonality with the viewers such that they couldn’t make a relatable connection with any of the characters. And I don’t think a story can maintain an audience without one or more protagonists about whom the audience can draw an “I’d be just like her in that situation” connection.

        Without this relatable connection, the viewer isn’t drawn into the story. Now, in screenplays, this is fine if it’s a car-chase scene bedause the spectacular action is entertainment enough. In quieter dramas, however, one must be able to connect with the characters, or else, ho hum , “what else is on” often becomes the result.

        I also believe the writers stretched the audience’s appetite for mysterious symbolism beyond the breaking point. It took a scholarly approach to decipher all the symbolism, such as the human heart-eating, the smearing of house interior walls with mud (Sook’s house), the guy sitting in the sink playing with entrails, the meat tree, and last but not least, the incredible edible egg. When they rolled out that egg, it became in my eyes, something of a Saturday Night Live parody of True Blood’s Maenad storyline.

    • December 17, 2009 at 4:16 am

      @PBS
      You’re absolutely right – and I think viewing it as fanfic or an alternate reality is really the only way to be able to enjoy both.

      Ultimately, as long as Eric is the last man standing in the books I’ll be ok. As much as I love True Blood the books are the “real deal” to me and I just want that story to be told right.

      Mostly I can talk myself down from the ledge re True Blood…it’s when they really mess with Eric, or Eric/Sookie that I find it hard to keep them separated.

      I think I need help. Of the professional kind.

      • 33 caratstick
        December 17, 2009 at 1:55 pm

        That’s all I was trying to say! Just that I’d found my own way to make peace with True Blood. Though, as I admitted, and as I think everyone on this site feels, it’s hard to keep that peace when he messes with the viking.

        • 34 walgigi
          December 18, 2009 at 8:17 am

          I love your new nickname!! It was hard for me to memorize your last one (just remembered pbs because of the network LOL). And, yes, hon, I understand your point very well and want you to be sure I wasn’t ranting against you. It was completely against AB and the mediocre “product” he is he making of TB, in addition to the way he is constantly trying to manipulate everything and everyone.

  14. December 16, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    I agree with this post completely. I think its insulting that the writers think that Askars naked is going to attract viewers. I think most of us are going to throw up at the site of Askars with a Ho. (unless of course he calls out “Sookie” and pictures her during sex!)
    I want to see Sookie getting under his skin, more about why he is obsessed with her.

    Regardless of whether you’ve read the books or not (I didn’t read them until after 2nd season finished) it is very frustrating that the writers don’t know what Eric is really about. If they’d read the remaining books in the series they’d have plenty to work with to develop the character, but I get the feeling they haven’t read them at all.

  15. 36 Curious
    December 16, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    I hope Alex doesn’t fall for this one. 😦
    even though she is “yummy” hopefully she is a real B*tch in person.
    you know the type…the one’s that look good but after a few minutes don’t look so good but make the rest of us look really good.

    still waiting for that phone call. I’m available…well I could be available for a few nights(hell a few hours) 😀

  16. 37 Dan
    December 16, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    The way I feel now is the TV show will be entertaining, but more so for non book readers. It’s HBOs biggest success since The Soprano’s. But I would not trade one third of one book for all the TV episodes. I enjoyed the alternate Godrick storyline. But all the other alternates are too dissapointing. It seperate works of art. The books are just better.

  17. 38 ksr
    December 16, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    At the very first moment I wanted to join this “Let’s fuck Mr AB!” party enthusiastically, but than I thought “whoa! wo!” to myself!
    I thought that we are really disappointed about a lot of things at TB. But should we really arrange a Holy Bonfire for AB or search some other more modern and even pleasant way to punish him? ;))
    I started to mull it over and I thought – is it really all his fault? When we think about some windfalls like TB’s version of Godric we always give a credit to casting, to actor, to anybody, but not to AB…
    I’m absolutely agreeing with pbsTMI “…he’s created an alternate Sookieverse…” that’s true. I never expected that TB should follow books plot by the line. Nobody does, I guess. And sometime it works well, from time to time even excellent. As an example they didn’t kill Lafaette (as CH did at the very beginning of the 2nd book) and it was brilliant idea as it worked out I think. But sometimes it leads to real disaster as it was with Maenads line or with Bills transformation to Saint which makes his character really boring. So is it all about AB? I don’t think so.
    Looks like TB writers trying hard to do their best to please all at ones. To entertain funs of books (which already knows all plots and needs a new lines to be intrigued as they thought), to win over as much audience (which never heard about Sookie’s series) as they can, to suit CH, AB, producers, actors, editors, make-up men, etc… etc… And finally we have what we have… as one politician said, making vain attempt to excuse just another collapse of government reforms “…we did our best, but it turns out… well, as usual…”
    But let’s be honest – there was a lot of real godsends in both TB’s seasons. That’s why I’m not going to judge this new character while I didn’t saw how it will turns out. And also I wouldn’t judge it because (I wouldn’t lie to you) I WANT NAKED ERIC at 3rd season very much! BUT!!! It should be done talented, aesthetically, artistically and if it would be done with hint of humor, even better, but it should fit plotline perfectly well!!! And it doesn’t meter to me who will be reason for his undressing – if it’s looks logically I’ll take it! But I’ll be pissed off in case it looks like “How much naked Eric would you like? Will sell it to you! Just keep watching!”
    In any case I think we should be more optimistic and give a little more credit to all TB’s survey squad, cause hope springs eternal in the human breast!))))
    What I really want to ask AB about – remember that naked ASkar is always welcome, but don’t use it as an end in itself. Just don’t fuck up, otherwise read all posts from above and be sure we are watching you, so take care about your ass!!!))))))

    • 39 VampirePamsGirl
      December 17, 2009 at 4:34 am

      You’re really right. There are a lot of great things about the show that we tend to not focus on and instead pick on the things that are not right about it. That whole Godric storyline was one of the best things ever in the show or in the books. But instead of talking about what a great thing that was, I know I tend to skip ahead to how freaked up stuff became after that episode. I think too that some of the AB hate probably comes from certain things he says or at least the way he phrases some comments. He may not even realize how bad some things he says sound; I don’t know. I know often people tend to speak without putting a lot of thought or without seeing how their comment(s) may be taken by others, but some of the things he had said in the past often seem a bit insulting/condescending and I think that may be partly why blame/outrage/swear words get thrown in his direction. I really don’t know, but it is good to try look at all sides of things.

      • 40 ksr
        December 17, 2009 at 9:02 am

        “…I think too that some of the AB hate probably comes from certain things he says or at least the way he phrases some comments…”That’s right! And what I’m really concerned about (in that case) is our nervous system – it’s a VERY expensive device and we shouldn’t let anybody like AB, CH, etc destroy it by spoiling our cheerful mood!

      • 41 ksr
        December 17, 2009 at 9:03 am

        We always should remember that as a final argument we always have powerful weapon – stake well-known as remote control and when we feel that they started to irritate us we can use it in combination with excellent panacea named “Fuck You!” to switch them off with huge smile on our faces!))) So we shouldn’t frustrate about what they saying in their endless interviews – we wouldn’t give them that kind of pleasure!;)))

  18. 42 walgigi
    December 17, 2009 at 6:32 am

    Ok, If violence and sex are the winning formula, we need to do something to ensure TB success and E/S HEA in the SMV.

    To begin with the violence phase, first we burn AB at a stake LOL. ksr, pbsTMI, Dan, CAT, Stef, (and anyone who wants to) will be on charge of the show with VampirePamsGirl as Director.

    Second, we kidnapp CH (a lil less violent cause even when we are mad with her, we love her SMV lol). Then sookiverseblog will be on charge to write the next four books (to ensure Eric as Sookie’s HEA at the end) with Belle, nbu/nskars (and anyone who also wants to) as writer assistants.

    And third, to complete both phases, I’ll be in charge to have sex with Askars…

    Ins’t it a perfect plan? hahahaha

    • 43 walgigi
      December 17, 2009 at 6:36 am

      SVM… SVM (not SMV LOL)

    • 44 VampirePamsGirl
      December 18, 2009 at 4:14 am

      Lol. Like ksr and Stef, I’m seeing a bit of an issue with Step 3, ending there. 😉 Michael McMillian better make sure to take ASkasr to a really good restaraunt. He’s going to need his enegery.

      And I’m on board, especially for having sookieverseblog, Bella, and nbu/nskars and others write our happy endning just in case we don’t get it. That’s now officially my plan B after the series ends, if it doesn’t end right. Can you imagine the amount of Viking we would get in that book? Lol.

  19. 53 ksr
    December 17, 2009 at 7:17 am

    “…And third, to complete both phases, I’ll be in charge to have sex with Askars…” OK. Just make it “talented, aesthetically, artistically” and slooowlyyyy to let us appreciate at its true value. So than we’ll be able to discuss it here in details!))))))))))))))
    PS Don’t go too far and don’t fuck him to death… I’m still hope to get my chance… ))))))))))))))
    PPS Who is nymphomaniacs? We are? Noooooo….)))))))))))))))))

  20. 56 ksr
    December 17, 2009 at 9:07 am

    sorry “nObody” of course!))))

  21. 57 Mia
    December 17, 2009 at 10:08 am

    @sookiverseblog- I agree with your post; I’m more interested in a story and character development than whether someone will be naked in an upcoming season. I notice on the HBO boards for the AS/Eric threads that most of the commentary is geared around Eric being naked or having sex so maybe that’s where the idea that naked Eric will pacify the fans arose.

    Don’t get me wrong; I’d rather see naked Eric than naked middle-aged townspeople going at it like bunnies in a black-eyed Maenad-induced sex frenzy like last season, but I would gladly forgo it to see some of the wit and spark between Eric/Sookie that was in Club Dead and see some real character development for both of them.

    IMO, TB sacrifices the characters for plot development. Witness S1 when Sookie writes Bill off as never coming back after only a day or two when she knows he’s been dragged off to the vampire tribunal by Eric, Pam, & Chow. This sets up her kissing Sam and then the big Bill/Sam fight and the Sookie bipolar moment so we can have Bill wandering around in the sun for the finale and have their big reconcilation and the sappy “you were willing to sacrifice yourself” dialog at the end. Book Sookie would never have given up on Bill that easily. She would have hopped into her piece of crap car, driven to Fangtasia, and demanded an answer from Eric. I won’t even cover the Bill flashbacks to the 1920’s in context to how he was presented in S1.

    The dream sequence you mentioned had a wow factor, but I think it was our first glimpse that AP and AS have chemistry together. It was refreshing since the chemistry between SM and AP evaporated in S2 – which I’m still thinking (hoping?) was by design. The only problem with the dream sequence is it is being blamed on her ingesting Eric’s blood and as a reason why she would be attracted to Eric. Yet Sookie never questions her relationship with Bill considering she has ingested like a quart of his blood by now.

    -“What I want to see on this show is an Eric with some semblance of a sense of humour, and Sookie not acting like she wants to punch him in the face every time they’re in the same room.”

    I so agree with you on the above. We’ve seen Eric’s sense of humor with Bill, with Pam, with Lafayette, etc but never with Sookie. By this point in the story, they were already sparking off of each other but so much of that was left out of S2, and I’m not even referring to the orgy scene. There was the scene when all of the vampires help save Sookie after the Maenad attacked her; there was Eric interupting Bill and Sookie when they were about to have sex at the hotel and their conversation; there was Eric tending to Sookie’s injuries after she escapes the FotS; there was the conversation when Eric tries to get Sookie to leave Bill for him before the FotS attacks the vampire compound; there was their kiss after the bullet-sucking; there was the phone call between Sookie/Eric (bullet-sucker/bullshitter) when she asks him to go to the orgy with her and so on.

    So much that was fun about the books and the Eric/Sookie relationship has been left out. Then you get comments from AB and his writers that Eric was not a big part of the story for the first few books to account for so little of Eric in the show. I agree this was true in book 1, but they cut out some of the best parts of book 2 or gave them to the TB Bill character. They should have at least kept Eric trying to seduce Sookie from Bill at the vampire compound in along with her tart refusal. Beyond the obvious character development, that would have at least explained why the TELEPATH didn’t “hear” Luke the bomber until it was too late.

    I can’t fathom how they can have Eric/Sookie interaction in S3 unless things are resolved with Bill. B/S were on a break in book 3 (anyone remember how he hurt her?); Bill left her for Lorena in book 3 (more hurt). If TB Sookie thinks TB Bill has just run away because she refused his proposal and has the Eric moments or the Alcide moments like in book 3, she’s going to look like an idiot especially if Bill’s off being tortured.

    • December 17, 2009 at 11:55 pm

      @mia – every word, right on.
      The dream sequence you mentioned had a wow factor, but I think it was our first glimpse that AP and AS have chemistry together. It was refreshing since the chemistry between SM and AP evaporated in S2 – which I’m still thinking (hoping?) was by design. The only problem with the dream sequence is it is being blamed on her ingesting Eric’s blood and as a reason why she would be attracted to Eric. Yet Sookie never questions her relationship with Bill considering she has ingested like a quart of his blood by now.

      This is really annoying me as well. While the dream sequence was wonderful and we all squeed with delight at the sight of it (and it was such a relief to see that AS and AP did actually have sexual chemistry because I was starting to worry), even that felt like it had been cheapened.

      In the books Eric and Sookie’s relationship evolves at a slow pace, it feels like things are progressing naturally – there isn’t any forcing. True Blood feels like the characters are being manipulated to further the plot as you pointed out. Eric had already been painted as manipulative and selfish so when he tricked Sookie into his sucking the bullet it looked very black and white. He tricked her and he did it for selfish reasons and she hated it.

      In the books, their relationship before the bullet sucking was already more amicable to begin with, and after it Sookie didn’t see the incident as such a big deal (“Eric..my big bullshitter“). By the time she found out the bullet would’ve come out itself it was kind of irrelevant, since she had already been injured at Club Dead and had heaps of Eric’s blood anyway. She’d also had his blood in book 4 and probably again after that before she found out…can’t remember. Anyway, in TB they had Bill tell her immediately, so of course she went off her head about it. As far as Eric’s motives – book Eric never has a single reason for doing anything. Sure he wanted to get his blood in her for obvious reasons. But I also think (and Sookie thinks, which is why she wasn’t so mad) that he wanted a blood tie to be able to track her, have an awareness of her, knowing that Bill could only go so far in protecting her. There was no hint of any other motive on True Blood. It was completely portrayed as him taking advantage of her good nature so he could have her for himself.

      I saw a Paley Panel interview a couple of months back where Ball was asked about the blood tie/blood bond thing and he didn’t know there was a difference. At that point he obviously hadn’t read to book 9 (he apparently has now). It drives me absolutely bloody crazy that they’ve given the impression there is a blood bond at play here (“Bill: He was determined to have this bond with you”) when Eric hasn’t even HAD her blood. Eric should only have the vaguest awareness of what is going on with Sookie since the tie is only running HER way. He knows when she’s around, he knows she feels attracted to him but that’s it. That’s why he looked so freaked out when she started eye-fucking him in the meeting with Nan.

      Yet a good proportion of the audience now thinks that Eric is capable of mind control after the bullet scene. I’ve even seen some people call the dream “mind rape”. Can you even believe that? Talk about a lame attempt at transference on the part of Bill fans.

      I do think that Sookie will end up questioning her attraction to Bill once she’s had a chance to think about it. Like while he is out of her face for a bit getting poked and prodded by Lorena 😉 When they got back from Dallas all hell had broken loose, once she has some quiet and Bill out of her ear I think she’ll start to wonder.

      They have to lead into the flirting with Alcide somehow after the SFP – otherwise she will look like an idiot and be very unsympathetic. Everyone will hate her if she’s off flirting with Alcide while while Victim Bill is being tortured. Not a good look. They’ll have to introduce some Bill shadiness for that to work.

      • 59 VampirePamsGirl
        December 18, 2009 at 4:32 am

        “They have to lead into the flirting with Alcide somehow after the SFP – otherwise she will look like an idiot and be very unsympathetic. Everyone will hate her if she’s off flirting with Alcide while while Victim Bill is being tortured. Not a good look. They’ll have to introduce some Bill shadiness for that to work.”

        That right there was one of the things I was (and still am) ranting about about that stupid proposal, or perhaps it could be referred to as one of the stupidest moments of Season 2 TB. And it doesn’t even have anything to do with Eric. How are they going to work the attraction between Sookie and Alcide in there without making her look like an uncaring slut after she was just about to say yes to Bill’s proposal. Even if she thinks that he jumped up and left the restaraunt when she hesitated with her answer, it still wouldn’t look good. And like you say, it will lead everyone to feel sorry for the poor tragic hero Bill.

      • 60 walgigi
        December 18, 2009 at 7:36 am

        “I saw a Paley Panel interview a couple of months back where Ball was asked about the blood tie/blood bond thing and he didn’t know there was a difference. At that point he obviously hadn’t read to book 9 (he apparently has now). It drives me absolutely bloody crazy that they’ve given the impression there is a blood bond at play here (“Bill: He was determined to have this bond with you”) when Eric hasn’t even HAD her blood. Eric should only have the vaguest awareness of what is going on with Sookie since the tie is only running HER way. He knows when she’s around, he knows she feels attracted to him but that’s it. That’s why he looked so freaked out when she started eye-fucking him in the meeting with Nan.”

        You are SO absolutely right about this! A tie and a bond isn’t the same, and they already said it: “HE WILL BE ABLE TO SENSE HER EMOTIONS”, “HE IS PART OF HER NOW”… HE HE. She isn’t part of him, there’s no bond there. She can’t sense his emotions, so there is no way he can influence her by this mean, much less “mind rape” her.

    • 61 VampirePamsGirl
      December 18, 2009 at 5:11 am

      Mia- sookieverseblog had it right when she says “every word, right on”. That’s one of the things I love best about this site, so often it seems like you all take the words right out of my mouth.

      I especially know what you mean about all those scenes you listed that were left out of Season 2 from Book 2. The little bullet-sucker/big bull-shitter phone conversation was one of my favorite scenes from the entire series. Even if we didn’t have that scene exactly, something at least remotely similar would have been nice.

      “I would gladly forgo it to see some of the wit and spark between Eric/Sookie that was in Club Dead and see some real character development for both of them.”
      I am so with you on this. It’s definitely no secret that I love looking at me some ASkars (clothing optional) but I would be happy for him to never even take his shirt off for the whole season if we could just get some of those little moments that make Eric and especially the Eric/Sookie relationship so compelling. I heard a quote or something somewhere once (though I can’t remember or find it now!) but it was something about how falling in love is not just one big moment, but a series of little moments. For me that is Eric and Sookie’s friendship and relationship (pathetically enough I can even see the scene in my head from the books when she looks back at all the times, little or otherwise, that Eric has been there for her and made her smile and realizes she loves him and not because of a blood bond) and it’s something that has been sorely lacking in the show so far.

    • 62 walgigi
      December 18, 2009 at 7:08 am

      I agree completely on everything you wrote.

      “The only problem with the dream sequence is it is being blamed on her ingesting Eric’s blood and as a reason why she would be attracted to Eric. Yet Sookie never questions her relationship with Bill considering she has ingested like a quart of his blood by now. ”

      I’m so glad you wrote about this. It’s one of the best examples of the lack of consistency I’m complaining about TB (and about Sookie’s bipolar attitude). Is she so naive that couldn’t question him or herself about their relationship? But isn’t only that. She and Lafayette, both, are having sexual fantasies with Eric in dreams, and Bill let her know it was one of the consecuences of the vampire blood ingestion. Ok. If that is true and TB writers were consistents, then, are they also going to show us Sam having sexual fantasies in dreams with Bill the next season??? Because we all watched that Sam ingested so much blood from Bill that almost drained him… Perhaps is it possible that Bill’s blood is as GOOD as him and only is useful to heal(remember he’s a Saint) and Eric’s is as BAAAD as him so only his could bear that sexual dreams consecuence??? Please…

      “They should have at least kept Eric trying to seduce Sookie from Bill at the vampire compound in along with her tart refusal. Beyond the obvious character development, that would have at least explained why the TELEPATH didn’t “hear” Luke the bomber until it was too late.”

      She had a trauma because of been “hearing” people all her life the first season, but the second one she didn’t “hear” Luke or (anyone else anymore) because she forgets she is a telephat!!! LOL She only remebers it when Bill reminds her of using it… (lack of charachter consistency or bipolar attitudes anyone?) *roll eyes*

      • 63 walgigi
        December 18, 2009 at 7:59 am

        I forget to add the writers didn’t have time to check these details neither because they were too busy writing that amazing and sublime Tara-manead-eggs arch we all enjoy so much LOL. (sorry if I laugh too much, I have to laugh in order to not cry…)

  22. 64 tribalbellydonsah
    December 17, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    i just wanted to

    • 65 tribalbellydonsah
      December 17, 2009 at 11:21 pm

      say I have NO IDEA why my computer did that, sorry for the double post, ya’ll! I wanted to sum up the whole stripper thing and say:

      it is a cheap trick in more ways than one! Way To Go, AB! could you have cheapened Eric ANY MORE?? she could have at least been, i dont know, perhaps a nurse if he wanted an OC for Eric right now, jeez!

  23. 66 ksr
    December 18, 2009 at 11:52 am

    @Mia “…Yet Sookie never questions her relationship with Bill considering she has ingested like a quart of his blood by now…” What is annoying me in TB is that TB’s version of Sookie acting like a vacuum brake without ABS! The most amusing part of SVM books for me is that Sookie always is so quick on the uptake. But in TB’s version she is real retard!

  24. 67 ksr
    December 18, 2009 at 11:57 am

    @ walgigi “…are they also going to show us Sam having sexual fantasies in dreams with Bill the next season??? Because we all watched that Sam ingested so much blood from Bill that almost drained him…” Holy shit!!! Like true ‘nymphomaniac’ I’m already fidgeting uneasily in my seat anticipating this scene!!!! “…Perhaps is it possible that Bill’s blood is as GOOD as him and only is useful to heal(remember he’s a Saint) and Eric’s is as BAAAD as him so only his could bear that sexual dreams consecuence???” May I die! Genius!!! )))))))))

  25. January 1, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    I believe this gal, Yvetta, is affiliated with Hallow. I predict she will want more from Eric, just like Sarah Newlin wanted more from Jason, and Eric will step away from her because although he enjoyed sexing her and she’s nice and pretty, she’s also too clingy, wants alot more from him than he wants from her, and he has to cut out to do something else related to saving his own skin from another threat. He’s just not interested in Yvetta in a serious way. She offers herself up sexually, he’s reluctant but goes with the flow, then afterwards she asks for more from him but he’s not interested in playing along.

    Yvetta will be angered and will turn on Eric by failing to help his cause when Hallow bewitches him. She won’t really be an active player in harming Eric, but she’ll be complicit in a somewhat passive way.

    I don’t believe Alan Ball would just thrown this gal in to appease a demographic who wants to see Eric naked, no. Yvetta will play into future events. The book has a special place for her near the beginning of Book 4, a corrolary character whose role could dovetail nicely with Yvetta’s actions in Season 3. I have more ideas on my blog if anyone cares to give it a gander: http://truebloodspeculationstheories.blogspot.com/ .

    • January 1, 2010 at 11:52 pm

      Ah you’re thinking the booby trapped witch?
      I don’t think she’s been introduced purely as eye candy either – you are right, Ball does nothing without a reason.
      I’ve heard this Hallow theory from various sources, it’s a good one.
      I’ve long had 2 scenarios in mind for the S3 cliffhanger – either Eric disappearing from Fangtasia (not keen on this really since it echos the S2 finale a little too much) or Sookie finding Eric on the road and we see just enough to know that he has NFI who or where he is.

      • January 2, 2010 at 10:13 pm

        I like the idea of Sookie finding Eric on the road and we only see enough to determine that he’s mentally “not all there”. That’s my favorite main cliffhanger scenario for S3.

        I toyed briefly with the idea of the following as an alternate cliffhanger possibility.

        Let’s say that after some trouble between Bill and Sookie midseason, they put their relationship back together and push forward with their marriage. And at some kind of gathering, either an engagement party held locally or the wedding itself in Vermont, at that moment in the ceremony where they ask if anyone believes there’s just cause the wedding should not proceed, Eric bursts in and says “Bill! Isn’t there something you would like to tell Sookie about why you met her?” And that’s the cliffhanger. I really liked that idea for awhile until I considered that this would mean S4 would start out with the revelation of the edict and Sookie would be crying and running somewhere all bedraggled-looking and Bill would be crying blood somewhere in his house and in essence, it would start the season off on a downer note. Which, I believe, you don’t want to start a season with a sad episode but rather with bang, a big mystery begging to be solved, laid out before the viewers enticingly.

        So then I went back to the “Amnesia Eric running on the road” cliffhanger, which I really like, especially since we got this little minx-like wildcard in Fangtasia.

      • 71 walgigi
        January 3, 2010 at 10:24 am

        I believe the gal is some sort of scout sent by Hallow to spy on Eric… unless she herself were Hallow @@… !!!!

        And this could easily be true because we all know that AB loves to change names and plot lines to make TB different from the original story…

        Anyway, Sookie finding Eric running in jeans and barefoot on the road to her house isn’t only the best S3 cliffhanger they could show, but also would be a dream come true for us LOL!!

    • 72 walgigi
      January 2, 2010 at 8:03 am

      Ooook… Sell, I read your predicitions and they seems to have a very logic continuity, but I can’t frame them necesarily inside the doppelgänger theory. I don’t know, maybe because it doesn’t has much to do with karmic consecuences (I could be wrong on that, but never heard or read about that connection before). But especially because the doppelgänger concept is a ghostly double of a living person and a form of bilocation, a sinister one. It’s like a mirror image opposed to the self. Maybe you’re right and it’s true that AB is trying to use this theory to make in TB a type of parallels between some of the characters, but in my opinion, if they go with something so complex as a doppelgänger theory, they are risking that when the common viewers notice it, think the show is lacking of creativity in developing their characters. Anyway, I don’t want you to think I’m underestimating your theory, because even when I can’t see it the way you do it, I have to admit as I said before, that it has some very logical elements.

      What I really can tell you without any doubt is that CH, as well as AB, are using A LOT of Jung’s theory concepts in the story. Archetypes, anima and animus, synchronicity, inflation, compensation, projection, the shadow, complexs, alter ego and libido (not as Freud’s sexual drive, but as Jung’s psychic energy that underlies all psychic manifestations), are just some of the many I had the opportunity to identify.

      Curiously, Jung defined “alter ego” as the other aspect of oneself, a second ego; and also, one’s doppelgänger. IMO, the best proof of this concept being applied by CH and AB in the story is Bill’s character. The alter ego is a person that people create within themselves and relate to the person in terms of making it an ideal. Bill had been deprived of his human life and hasn’t been able to do what he always wanted to do in life, and created an alter ego to live in his own dream and achieve the life he had always wanted. But that doesn’t makes him a victim, because the alter ego resides in the “shadow” which is the part of that libido energy that is not existentially assumed by consciousness because it contrasts and lacks of harmony with the concious choices and interests the person has in life. And the reason Bill created this alter ego (the famous and legendary Saint Bill as we all know him LOL) actually comes more from the guilt he feels with Sookie and his concious but hidden intentions with her, from what he already chose to do to her. In fact, this alter ego concept as a doppelgänger was masterfully presented in TB when Sookie wanted to go with Godric because he was going to “meet the sun” and Bill was arguing about it. When she confronted him and asked him to put himself in Godric’s place, he couldn’t do it, and even when he told her he understood, he finished asking her: “But Sookie, with all honesty, what can you do for him?”. And that was because he is living through his alter ego (pretending to be human and not a vampire), and if you could notice, he was standing near a glass window that reflected his image as the symbol of a doppelgänger… the mirror image opposed to his true self.

      • January 2, 2010 at 9:38 pm

        Thanks for checking out my blog. My understanding of doppelgangers is that they are modified slightly per the literary application and the tradition in which they’re based. I believe AB’s use of doppelgangers is in the Norse sense of Vardoger–a ghostly double who precedes a living person and is seen performing their actions in advance. Except that in this instance, the living person precedes their ghostly double–who is a vampire (also dead, but still active, like a ghost). I wouldn’t have thought it so much if I hadn’t seen the correlations first between Eric and Jason. I believe there are only two doppelganger pairs, Eric and Jason, and Bill and Lafayette. I don’t see Karma as having any play in doppelgangers, at least in the Vardoger interpretation, but maybe I’m missing something. I appreciate you bringing it up; I’ll drill down on that and see what I find.

        As to the common viewer catching on, I doubt it would ever happen. Most folks enjoy this show on a somewhat superficial level. We, the aficionados, we all have our own theories to such a deep extent, we can’t always buy our way to the core of others’ theories. Make sense? I don’t think Vardoger-doppelgangers can be proven until the seasons are complete. Then we look at back and say, “yeah, weird, they seem to be mirror images in many ways.”

        I like your alter ego interpretations. I have a theory about Bill, unrelated to doppelgangers, and I’m wondering how it would play out within your alter ego theories. I believe Bill will undergo a journey of self-discovery and personality integration to emerge on the other side as a whole and actualized being whom he can feel proud to be. What do you think?

        • 74 walgigi
          January 3, 2010 at 10:02 am

          I mentioned the karma theme in the last post because I didn’t find its conection with your theory, and I read something you write about Tara’s future problems with Franklin as a karmic consecuences of the way she judged Sookie (something like that, I can’t recall exactly the words) and that confused me. Thanks for clarify it to me :).

          About your question… Well, I’ll try to keep it as simple as possible, because Carl Jung’s theory is one of the deepest and most complex of the Psychological field. It has a lot of concepts that depends from other concepts at the same time, and I don’t want to annoy anyone with a boring lesson of psychology LOL.

          According to the Jung’s theory, the harmony of the subject’s unconscious and conciousness is the self, the very core of psychological balance and is achieved through the process of individuation (which is the process of integrating one’s personality).

          The “self” emerges as the result of the joint of concious and unconcious elements, the result of the merging of the animal unconcious and the conciousness into the psyche. A personality go through a lot of deep changes whenever the individual promotes and exposes experientially this self.

          But we still have not seen that happening in Bill’s personality. TB is still at a very early stage and is difficult to predict how they are going to develop his character. In the SVM series Bill, as a character, certainly has suffered some changes. But I can’t see them as the result of this process of personality integration (individuation) because he never promoted or exposed himself by his own will to any of the experiences that brought to light the truths he had hidden to everyone (including to himself). He lied until he had no choice but to be discovered. Those changes aren’t real personality changes, they are just a way of adapting to his new reality which is the result of external circumstances imposed over him. I hadn’t see him accepting and embracing his vampire nature and achieve a balance in a concious way either. This makes him more dangerous because he keeps denying to everyone and to himself his “animal” unconcious which actually is the main reason of his lack of control issues. Maybe if he achieves to accept his vampire nature and learns to live with it, we could see a real change in him and a personal growth that gradually would lead him towards the integration of his personality.

          • January 3, 2010 at 10:46 pm

            This is utterly fascinating, thank you for posting this information. From a layperson’s reference, it seems like the Jungian theory is a near-perfect fit for a vampire with an identity crisis, one who hates being a vampire yet he can’t overcome it.

            Like you say, who knows if they’ll take Bill down an integration path, he didn’t seem to take that route in the books, but I’m hopeful that True Blood’s omniscient point of view coupled with the need to expand Bill to keep him from being marginalized once he’s apart from the Sook will induce the writers’ into writing Bill into a personal journey of self-integration.

  26. 76 Ashley
    February 10, 2010 at 3:53 am

    You are sooo right in every way word for word….i think most people want so at least see scenes with sookie and eric and see the chemistry between them like in Season 2 episodes 8 and 9…thats what we want…i dont want to see Eric with some random chick, thats the last thing i want to see, i mean the naked stuff is great but i want the Eric/sookie interactions…..he better do the E/S scene in Russells mansion….

  27. 77 Ashley
    March 24, 2010 at 6:52 am

    Im sorry but this chick has no ass!


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