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Loved by a Vampire – The Initiation

For nine books now, most of us have probably argued the suitor pros and cons back and forth on forums, made lists, traded insults and experienced dark moments of doubt in the great “Suitor Debate”.

Personality flaws and attributes have been endlessly dissected in an effort to determine the best partner for Sookie. Sexual behaviour is a reflection of personality, and we can tell a great deal about a person – and a relationship – from what goes down in the bedroom.

With that in mind, I thought it could be interesting to compare Bill and Eric’s sexual behaviour and the way they relate to Sookie in bed. One way to do this is to break the sex scenes down into phases – the initiation, the act, and the afterglow.

INITIATION – BILL

As the younger vampire, Bill has more issues with self control [both in and out of bed] than Eric does, but I don’t think this is solely due to his age. His personality is generally dark, secretive and more introverted than Eric’s and I think this is expressed most clearly in the way he relates to Sookie sexually.

From the outset it is clear that Bill has alot of trouble reigning himself in when it comes to sex. His approach to initiating it is often intense and very physical:

Dead Until Dark:

He scooted across the seat towards me, his arms scooping me up before I could say anything else. Then his mouth was on mine and after a second his tongue began licking the blood from my face.
I was really scared. I was also really angry. I grabbed his ears and pulled his head away from mine using every ounce of strength I possessed…
His eyes were like caves with ghosts dwelling in their depths.
“Bill!” I shrieked. I shook him. “Snap out of it!”

Living Dead in Dallas:

“As I unlocked the front door, Bill came out of the darkness. Without a word he grabbed my arm and turned me to him…we stumbled into the house and he turned me to face the couch. I gripped it with my hands and, just as I’d imagined, he pulled down my pants and then he was in me.”

The Mood tends to take Bill quite suddenly, it overwhelms him often, and he really does have trouble controlling his urges. This would seem to be partly because he doesn’t really understand why he should have to. There is usually very little dialogue between him and Sookie – Bill is an Action Man – and sex is not usually preceeded by conversation or intimacy. A notable exception is the very first time when Bill shows up the evening of Gran’s funeral and proceeds to brush her hair like his dolly and talk with her a little about his human life. The time he chose to make his move, and the fact that Sookie gave it up to him that night makes the motivation for his sharing [which incidentally, never happens again] dubious. Although this scene appeared intimate on the surface I think it’s reasonable to question it, given that it doesn’t gel with his sexual behaviour thereafter.

Foreplay for Bill often includes a bit of underwear ripping and “manhandling”. I can think of at least three instances where Sookie’s underwear/clothing is ripped by Bill, and many more where he has physically handled her person. This happens both in and out of the bedroom.

And notice that I haven’t even mentioned the OTHER incident. Interestingly, it’s not even necessary to refer to that in order to flesh out Bill’s self control issues. They clearly still exist, even outside the gray area of the trunk.

Bill puts on his moves. On the porch, in the dark...as is his habit. Nice t-shirt Sook - that colour suits you very well...

INITIATION – ERIC

Eric approaches sex in a very different way to Bill, and his approach is consistent. Vampire he may be, but he demonstrates patience and self control that Bill either cannot muster, or has no desire to.

Club Dead

[Sookie wakes after the staking with Eric already in the bed beside her]
“Thank you Eric” I didn’t care for how shaky I sounded but an obligation was an obligation.
“For what?” His hand stroked my stomach.
“For standing by me in the club. For coming here with me. For not leaving me alone with all these people”.
“How grateful are you?” he whispered, his mouth hovering over mine. His eyes were very alert now, and his gaze was boring into mine….
“That kind of ruins it, when you say something like that,” I said, trying to keep my voice gentle. “You shouldn’t want me to have sex with you just because I owe you,”
“I don’t really care why you have sex with me, as long as you do it,” he said, equally gently.
…His mouth was on mine then…

Dead to the World:

“I’ll do that for you,” Eric said, pulling back the curtain to step into the shower with me…
…While I stood stock-still, paralyzed by conflicting waves of emotion, Eric took the soap out of my hands and lathered up his own…
“Have we ever made love?” he asked.
I shook my head, still unable to speak.
“Then I was a fool,” he said, moving one hand in a circular motion over my stomach. “Turn around, lover.”

Dead and Gone:

Then he got under the blanket with me and propped himself up on an elbow. He was looking down at me…
[Conversation about Quinn and Nevada]
“Then I am high handed.” Eric said with no shame whatsoever. “I’m also very . . .” He dipped his head and kissed me slowly, leisurely.
“Horny,” I said.
“Exactly,” he said, and kissed me again. …”It’s time I claimed what is mine.”

Reading these passages together, a pattern emerges. Eric has always initiated with Sookie in the same way. First, he makes his physical presence equal to hers [lying down in bed with her, lying down on the floor, getting into the shower with her]. This might be to make himself less physically threatening, or perhaps just a reflection of his desire for them to be on an even footing. It’s an interesting contrast to Bill – rather than using his body to put her at ease as Eric does, Bill uses his physical strength to dominate her and maneuver her body for his satisfaction. I always get the sense that Bill’s determination to satisfy Sookie is rooted in the desire to satisfy himself.

Eric’s next move is to emotionally engage through conversation. The talking leads into the sex and even though Eric initiates, Sookie is always in control of how far it goes. When she says stop, he does – without hesitation or sulking [recall CD when they are interrupted by Bubba, and LDID – “Yield to me, Sookie” and she says no.] He always initiates in a slow, non threatening way. He always makes sure that she knows she is in control. He always makes sure that she can see him coming.

He behaves as though he knows about Sookie’s childhood sexual abuse. But he doesn’t know. We also have no evidence that he knows about the rape – they have never discussed it on the page and while he would have seen that she’d been drained after getting her out of the trunk, it would not have been obvious that she had been raped. So we can only assume that Eric’s behaviour speaks of the man, rather than the circumstances.

From the small taste we’ve had of Dead in the Family, Sookie is physically battered and psychologically traumatised. Eric is continuing to show an awareness that Sookie needs to be the one to set the parameters of their sexual relationship. Sookie tells Amelia he had asked her several times if she was sure she wanted to engage in sex.

Compare Eric’s self restraint to this Bill/Sookie exchange in LDID:

He was ready again, and he was rough with it, as if he were trying to prove something.
“Be sweet,” I said, the first time I had spoken.
“I can’t. It’s been too long, next time I’ll be sweet, I swear”.

This is one of a number of examples of Sookie telling Bill no, slow down, stop, or be gentle and he is unable or unwilling to comply. He is VAMPIRE. He relishes his nature because it gives him an excuse to behave like an oaf. He constantly uses it to defend himself when his self control is lacking.

Eric makes a move. And look! They're holding hands and smiling! There's connection, there's intimacy...there's talking! OK it's a dream, but we all know that this was major foreshadowing. This is how Real Eric rolls.

It’s also interesting to compare the verbs and adjectives used in the selection of passages above, which are taken from different scenes and books.

Bill scenes: scooted, scooping, licking, scared, angry, grabbed, pulled, shrieked, shook, snap, stumble, gripped.

Eric scenes: stroked, whispered, hovering, gaze, gently, emotion, made love, lover, kissed, slowly, leisurely, mine.

CH’s choice of words sets the tone of the scenes, and sheds light on the nature of the relationships. Bill’s words convey the physicality and urgency of the sex and are a reflection of the essentially physical nature of he and Sookie’s relationship, and Bill’s lack of self control. Eric’s words are “relationship” words. They are words you find in love scenes, as opposed to sex scenes – and this is the case even as far back as Club Dead, before love was ever part of the equation for either of them.

Next: Loved by a Vampire – The Act
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56 Responses to “Loved by a Vampire – The Initiation”


  1. 1 skadi
    January 4, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Great post.

    Whilst I’d absolutely picked up on Eric’s consistent approach, especially that he actually talks with Sookie, I’m not sure I’d considered quite how out of control Bill can be until you, er, laid it bare. Maybe I pay closer attention to the Viking, but can you blame me?

  2. 2 Kristen
    January 4, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    Let’s also not forget the scene in DUD in the cemetery in which Sookie initiates sex with Bill in order to NOT GET KILLED! This is where all love was lost for me when it comes to Bill Compton. She was specifically fearful of him and used sex as a way to pull Bill away from the violence he was feeling and showing. Not hot, Bill!

    I also hated the scene in LDID when they’ve been apart… completely squicked me out that he was so rough and unheeding to her requests. Wow, one minute they are across the room from one another and then in a flash he’s bent her over the couch and is inside her??! Maybe hot for some people, but so not my style. I will take Eric’s “initiation” any day!

    Great post, btw. Sometimes I feel ridiculous thinking of literary critique about the SVM series, but you make it seem quite cool.

  3. 3 nskars
    January 4, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    I had been painfully aware of Bill’s lack of self control. I have to go so far as to say that it physically made me cringe to read the B/S sexcapades in DUD and LDID. I don’t understand why any female would subject themselves to that. Even with Bill being Sookie’s first real sexual relationship… to hell with that. That girl truly makes me wonder sometimes.

    Oh oh, I loved the scene in CD when Sookie is pining over Bill in her bed and thinks he’s lying next to her when she wakes up but it’s really Eric and she’s like, “WTF are you doing?” and he says, “snuggling”. What a dreamboat.

    • 4 VampirePamsGirl
      January 5, 2010 at 2:19 am

      “Oh oh, I loved the scene in CD when Sookie is pining over Bill in her bed and thinks he’s lying next to her when she wakes up but it’s really Eric and she’s like, “WTF are you doing?” and he says, “snuggling”. What a dreamboat.”

      OMG-I know! That was definitely one of my ‘falling in love with the Viking’ moments from the books. I was Team Eric waaaay before the shower scene, lol.

  4. 5 CAT
    January 4, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    As usual, an amazing analysis and one that I’ve had in mind as I read the series. This is why I’ve always fallen in the the Eric camp. Also, why it frustrates me that True Blood was focused early on in pushing Eric as dark and evil.

    Hey, that dream sequence really foreshadows Amnesia Eric for me…..

  5. 6 caratstick
    January 4, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    First, let me say: Great point, Kristen! I forgot about that DUD scene. (I haven’t re-read the first book as often because without Eric, what’s the point? hee hee)

    Now, on to the post: fabulous post. I think we’ve all thought these things. And wondered how, after such obvious disparity, there could still be BLs out there!

    Also, that one scene you mentioned from LDID where he’s all “it’s been too long.” Give me a freaking break. It hadn’t been *that* long. What is he? A sixteen year old boy? I think some people read this lack of control as evidence of how much he loves her, how much he desires her, that she’s irresistible to him, makes him lose control (since, in most other instances, he’s described as calm, cool, collected [see your post on color]). Whatever. I know that’s not very eloquent, but really. While we all want to be loved passionately, I don’t think assault has to be part of that. Besides, it must be quite physical/aggressive for Sookie to mention it because CH has made it plain that Sookie is quite high-spirited in bed.

    And let’s not forget: Bill is aggressively physical unless he’s ignoring her (beginning of CD). Another indication that he’s more concerned with his needs than hers.

    Which brings me to one of the (many) scenes in TB that bothered me, although I think it was supposed to have been a good scene. It’s after the first time they’ve had sex and they’re in the bath. This is where he tells her she should take vitamins to replenish her blood, since, if she doesn’t mind, he wants to feed from her every day. “And no garlic.” Ack. WTFE, I say. I don’t know, but just the presumption of it makes me want to bash his face in.

    Can’t wait for part 2!

    • 7 Peculiar1
      January 5, 2010 at 7:13 pm

      There r BL’s still out there,because unlike u we can seperate the books from the show.you are combining them in ur post.book bill is at times heavy handed,but I don’t think it’s always threatening.always I said.whilst tb bill is much different.more gentlemanly.he was gentlemanly when meeting lorena,he could have easily taken advantage,but loved his wife.and has he Been heavy handed with sookie in tb? I can’t think of an instance in tb where she has refused or hesitated. Tb bill is a gentleman

      • 8 walgigi
        January 6, 2010 at 5:01 am

        Peculiar1, I have to respectfully disagree with you because carastick actually made a well articulate post and established a very clear differentiation and separation when she was talking about the books and when she was talking about TB. Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m under the impression that you are kind of young, and I don’t know if you realize the difference between being heavy handed and being an abuser if we look the way Bill behaves on the books. And actually, in TB his aggressiveness and abusive behavior was even more graphic.

        You’re saying you can’t think of an instance in TB where Sookie has refused or hesitated.. Well, I can give you one and it was at the exact moment before she was attacked by the manead. Bill was yelling at her and Jessica and driving at 500mph like a crazy, and she had to beg him to stop because he was scaring her. She got off the car and refused to return because of his abusive attitude, not just with her, but also to Jessica. No matter what they did, there’s no excuse for the level of agressiveness and violence that he used with them. In fact, in TB his abusive behavior isn’t only against Sookie, but it also reaches Jessica. Or is it possible that someone could forget how Bill grabbed and flung Jessica against the wall when she was kissing Hoytt? Neglect is also another form of abuse, and he has been neglecting his responsabilities with Jessica since he turned her, too. I can’t imagine that someone thinks that teaching her to choose if A negative or O positive tastes better is all the responsability a maker has with his “child”…

        The real problem is that both of them (Sookie and Jessica) came from abusives environments and can’t identify the “signs” in him. And his behavior with both of them makes him responsible and guilty for Sookie’s being attacked and hurted outside the car, and for the recent Jessica “killing spree”.

        • 9 caratstick
          January 6, 2010 at 5:53 am

          I’d also include in this list his aggressive sexual talk in S1.1 (after she rescues him). And again in S1.4 (when they are pulled over by the cop). And the graveyard scene (yes, the TB graveyard scene). I’m sorry but, although she initiates the sexual contact, what was up with the way the whole thing started? Did he really think reaching up out of the dirt, grabbing her, and not letting go even when she was so obviously terrified was the right thing to do?

          While AB has definitely tried to smooth Bill’s edges in TB, the signs are still there.

          • 10 Peculiar1
            January 6, 2010 at 7:28 am

            Caratstick:are u really saying ” there’s a very juicy artery in your groin” is aggressive sexual talk? If that’s aggressive sexual talk for you then you are quite prudish I must think.and again with the police incident,he only mentions the groin and nit having to suck as hard,not exactly aggressive is it? As to the grVeyard scene,true it doesn’t make sense why he didn’t let go,except for the fact that it made better television that way.I know you’ll disagree .

            • 11 VampirePamsGirl
              January 6, 2010 at 10:41 am

              IMHO, I don’t think it’s really got anything to do with Caratstick being prudish, as it does with the fact that Sookie was extremely prudish. In that same episode, she got very uncomfortable with Lafayette, Dawn, and Arlene talking and joking about sexual stuff inside Merlotte’s. I, personally, would not be bothered at all by being told that there is a juicy artery in my groin (I think it’s been established before on these blogs that I’m a perv though), but I think it would be a very valid assumption that Sookie with her past and her innocence would be intimidated and threatened by such a comment.

        • 12 Peculiar1
          January 6, 2010 at 7:17 am

          I may be a little younger than some,and maybe our experiences have us seeing things differently,I’m just saying bill is no worse than eric. Eric who snaps his fangs out and gets intimidatingly close to sookies face dhen she threatens to go to the cops.eric who kicks a man half across the room for touching his thigh,eric who chains Ppl in a filthy cellar only to we can assume kill them later.eric who tortured Lafayette.he’s just as much an abuser.the reason he doesn’t yell as much or seem as emotional as bill is he just doesn’t care about doing those things.bill cares and so gets emotional/frustrated/angry about them.

          • 13 nskars
            January 6, 2010 at 10:11 am

            @Peculiar1 Ok now I think you’re having difficulty seperating the books from the TV show. TV Eric is being written just as differently as TV Bill is and I think you should keep that in mind. In 2.03 Sookie finds out that Lafayette has been kept prisoner by Eric and he explains to Sookie and Bill the reason being due to the fact that Lafayette was supplying V. He was extracting a vampire’s blood for distribution. Even if Lafayette was doing this with the vampire’s permission he was breaking a law in the vampire world and Eric, as Sheriff, had a right to know what the hell was going on because of his responsibility of the vampires in his area. From a moral point of view it probably doesn’t seem right or just, but as Eric said, any other vampire of authority would have done much worse and Bill knows that.

            As for Eric’s fangs running out at Sookie, he was obviously angry at her threat to call the police. In his area, he IS the law and he was dealing with the situation how he saw fit. He kicked the fangbanger off his leg because I can only assume he doesn’t appreciate being touched by anyone without giving his consent. Being a vampire I think that would be pretty much a given… hell being any type of being I think that would be fairly appropriate. Should Sookie have to put up with someone touching her without her consent? Does Bill? Then why should Eric? And the reason that Eric doesn’t yell is because he doesn’t HAVE to yell. He has got almost a thousand years over Bill. He’s seen pretty much all there is to see. Life bores him a lot of the time and he doesn’t have to yell or get fired up to prove anything to anyone. Bill is a much younger vampire and is obviously a bit more expressive. Although another difference between book and TV Bill is that TV Bill seems to get away with a lot more when book Bill still kind of knows his place in the vampire hierarchy scheme of things. TV Bill tends to forget that he is Eric’s underling and fires his mouth off where and when he can.

            And your comment above about Book Bill being “at times heavy handed” and “not always threatening”. Uhh were you reading the same books that we all were? He not only handled Sookie at times when she didn’t want to be handled – she verbally expessed this to him – but he raped her. RAPED her. He has complete lack of self-control, he is intimidating and he is ruthless in his sexual possession of her. Which leads me to say that this entire post was about the differences between Bill and Eric’s sexual nature. And sookieverseblog was very specific in outlining examples of each of her points to prove them. It was not about Eric being “an abuser” and protecting the interests of the vampires in his area by keeping Lafayette prisoner until he gave him the information that he wanted.

            And call me crazy, but you have probably stumbled into the wrong arena to be hating on Eric. Cos there’s nothing but Viking love here.

            • 14 VampirePamsGirl
              January 6, 2010 at 10:51 am

              “TV Eric is being written just as differently as TV Bill is”

              @nskars Too right. That’s what we spend a good portion of our time around here ranting and raving about, lol. 😉

            • 15 VikingLover
              January 30, 2010 at 11:12 pm

              I agree with you Nskars. People forget that most of the time vampires are drained then killed by the V dealers (just as the Ratrays were doing with Bill). Plus, the Vampire that Lafayette had the agreement with, Eddie, had gone missing. Eric knew this and as Sheriff it was his job to investigate and punish the misdeed. He could only have assumed that Eddie had been killed.

              I love Lafayette very much but he did break a Vampire law and he himself knew how dire the consequences were for doing so. He knew that he could be killed – that is why he was so angry at Jason for telling Amy. He knew that if word got out he would be in extreme trouble with the vampires.

              People also seem to forget that the other guy in the cellar with Lafayette had murdered three vampires. Those vampires were disgusting but regardless they were murdered and as I said before, it’s Eric’s job to investigate and punish. I’m not saying that homocide (or torture) is the right way to punish someone for breaking laws (lol) but this is vampire justice and they have their own culture, beliefs, and way of doing things. That’s the whole point, to see how the two worlds collide.

          • 16 VampirePamsGirl
            January 6, 2010 at 10:30 am

            Hi Peculiar1. I do get what you are trying to say about the TB characters, but I just have to throw my two cents in here that caring about someone and becoming emotional/frustrated/angry with them is not a bad thing, but the way you choose to deal with those emotions can be a very bad thing.

            I freely admit that this subject matter is beyond my own personal experiences, though I do deal with matters of abuse and domestic violence on a fairly regular scale through my job and my heart goes out to any woman or man that has been a victim. That being said, I wouldn’t think that an abuser wakes up that morning and thinks I’m going to hit my significant other today. Just my opinion that the actions/words that constitute abuse spring from that person not being to adequately deal with their own feelings and thus the people around them get hurt. “I’m sorry I hit you/forced you to have sex with me/whatever happened, but I just love you so much.” – Not acceptable. Or “I’m sorry I flung you against the wall/screamed at you/scared you with my words and actions, but I was just so frustrated with you.” – Also not acceptable.

            Nobody should be treated that way, ever. I don’t even care about the characters at this point; I just think (as so many of these other wonderful ladies have pointed out) that this issue is one that you cannot be too well-informed about. I have so often heard women excusing their partner’s violent/abusive behavior by saying “Well, he loves me.” Loving or caring about someone is not an excuse for not treating them as they should be treated; in fact it should be exactly opposite that. And that goes for Bill, Eric, Sam, or Jane Bodehouse.

            Sorry if it seems like I’m ranting or something. But your last statement just struck a chord with me. I’ve seen too many women become victims through using that exact logic.

          • January 6, 2010 at 11:52 am

            I think perhaps we are confusing the books and the TV series here a little.

            I think it’s too early to be making an overall assessment of TB Bill’s character at this point. Books aside, Ball has dropped more than enough hints that his Bill, just like Charlaine’s, is also not all that he appears. Whether or not his Bill betrays Sookie in the same ways Book Bill did remains to be seen, but I think it’s fairly clear that he is setting him up for a fall from grace at some point. The hints have been numerous and the series can’t work without conflict between the leads.

            I’m just saying bill is no worse than eric. Eric who snaps his fangs out and gets intimidatingly close to sookies face dhen she threatens to go to the cops.eric who kicks a man half across the room for touching his thigh,eric who chains Ppl in a filthy cellar only to we can assume kill them later.eric who tortured Lafayette.he’s just as much an abuser.

            I just want to point out that Eric did none of those things in the books, just as book Bill didn’t have all the Jessica dramas that we saw in TB. My post was addressing the differences in sexual behaviour between book Eric and book Bill, which is why I only referenced book quotes and not the show.

            The two are so different, I think it’s important that we can keep them separated for the purposes of discussion 😉

  6. 18 Karenjbs
    January 4, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    What a fantastic analysis. These things have been at the back of my mind for so long but I was never able to articulate as clearly as you just have.

  7. 19 Kealeagh
    January 4, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    I love reading your site. It makes me feel better about Eric and Sookie actually having a shot, when I’m so filled with doubt! Great points you made, I hadn’t realized them. I mostly just focus on Eric scenes and have never really re-read the Bill/Sookie sex scenes.

    • January 5, 2010 at 11:22 am

      Ha ha Kealeagh – if you’re filled with doubt just hang around me for a bit.
      I am so biased towards Eric as the HEA, so completely and utterly convinced it WILL be him…some of it will have to rub off on you.

      I’m in denial town as far as anyone else ending up with Sookie. In fact, I am the MAYOR of denial town. It’s just not going to happen in my universe *crazyface*

      When I started this blog I toyed with the idea of presenting some semblance of objectivity. That lasted about 2 posts. It was utterly pointless, so now I am completely open with my biases and it’s much more fun ha.

  8. 21 Pogonip
    January 4, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    Well done! You’ve distilled the essence of the two vampires neatly. Bill is what we would call a control freak, and Eric is interested in partnership. Bill thinks himself superior to women, especially human women. Eric likes women, all kinds, even Thalia. Not all as sex objects, but as beings.

  9. 22 Dan
    January 5, 2010 at 1:36 am

    I don’t dislike Bill. I do favor Sookie’s relationship be with Eric, no doubt, and the desire for that relationship to happen probably hooks me into the work as much as anything. I just don’t wanna kick Bill, when he is down.

  10. 23 VampirePamsGirl
    January 5, 2010 at 2:31 am

    Loved by a Vampire – The Initiation – Ok, the title had me intrigued.

    “For nine books now, most of us have probably argued the suitor pros and cons back and forth on forums, made lists, traded insults and experienced dark moments of doubt in the great “Suitor Debate”.” – The introduction had me nodding in agreement.

    “Sexual behaviour is a reflection of personality” – But this line had me hooked. LOL. We’re all pervs here, it’s okay (so don’t feel bad about your desire for some Laf/Eric TB action, lol). 🙂

    Seriously though, as many of the others have said, you really once again took something I had thought about to an extent, but expanded on it and explained it much better than I ever could.

    I do think that comparison of verbs and adjectives is extremely telling. It really makes me wonder though how CH can write the scenes and characters like that and still make some of the comments she has about Eric. It always leaves me scratching my head that she reminds us over and over how he’s a viscious killer, but yet writes him with words like “stroked, whispered, hovering, gaze, gently, emotion, made love, lover, kissed, slowly, leisurely, mine.”

    “He behaves as though he knows about Sookie’s childhood sexual abuse. But he doesn’t know. We also have no evidence that he knows about the rape” — And he definitely didn’t know about any of that in Dead to the World. Even if he did find out about the trunk raping in CD, he had amnesia when they first make love in DTTW.

    • January 5, 2010 at 10:41 am

      I do think that comparison of verbs and adjectives is extremely telling. It really makes me wonder though how CH can write the scenes and characters like that and still make some of the comments she has about Eric. It always leaves me scratching my head that she reminds us over and over how he’s a viscious killer, but yet writes him with words like “stroked, whispered, hovering, gaze, gently, emotion, made love, lover, kissed, slowly, leisurely, mine.”

      It’s simple. She’s bullshitting 😀
      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again –
      When she actually writes Eric killing for pleasure, or she writes him deliberately doing something malicious to Sookie – even just ONCE – I will start paying attention to her Eric bashing.
      Until I see him doing this on the page, or even see it implied that it is happening off it, I will continue to believe that her Eric bashing is a smoke screen designed to stoke the fires of the suitor debate.
      She is simply not writing him like that. And I don’t say that just because I prefer Eric. When you break down what she’s written into its nuts and bolts, she is clearly wanting us to see Eric in a very different light to Bill. It’s just so clear to me the more I look at it.

      A large proportion of the fanbase of her books are pulling for Eric. I just don’t buy that she’s written this series so poorly that most of it’s fanbase is pulling for the wrong guy. She knows damn well what she’s doing. She’s like a female version of Alan Ball *sniff*

      It also entirely possible that I have way too much time on my hands.

  11. 25 walgigi
    January 5, 2010 at 3:18 am

    I apologize in advance if the post seems too long, but I think what I going to post here is not only relevant to the character of Bill, but it concerns us all because is a serious social problem. And when I see people who love Bill’s character and consider him a gentleman, I can not stop worrying about how uninformed they are.

    Aaine, this is an excellent and very acurate comparative analysis of how different are the personalities of Bill and Eric even when they both are Vampires. I’m so glad you post this “theme”! The fact that Bill shares the vampire nature with Eric makes his personality disorders go far beyond this nature, and they are a lot worse and deeper than some people imagine or want to accept. He’s just a fictional character, but as far as I know, he could also be any man near any of us. And what really makes me fear is that some of us aren´t able to recognize him.

    The most common behaviors you can find on an individual who has serious internal control issues and lacks of power and authority over himself, is that he is going to have issues with “authority figures” and is going to try to control (dominate) the people and the circumstances around him. He lacks of power over himself, hence doesn’t have power either to do so. One can only access power by one of two ways: by authority or through coercion. The absence of authority generates frustration, and this frustration leads the individual to rely on coercion, violence and/or agression. These three behaviors are the manifestation of what is known as abuse. And here, what we are really discussing is domestic abuse.

    All forms of domestic abuse have a sole purpose: to gain and maintain total control over the victim. Different forms of domestic abuse are physical abuse, verbal abuse (can include shouting and reviling), emotional abuse (also known as mental or psychological abuse and can include lieing, hiding from the victim important information which may cause a direct harm, isolating the victim from friends and family, and limiting the victim access from money or resources to resolve his/her needs), stalking and last, but not least, sexual abuse.

    Between one-third and one-half of abused women are raped by their partners at least once during their relationship. ANY circumstance who uses force to obtain participation in unwanted, unsafe, or degrading sexual activity constitutes sexual abuse. Forced sex, even by a spouse or intimate partner with whom consensual sex has occurred, is an act of aggression and violence. Women whose partners abuse them physically and sexually are at a higher risk of being seriously injured or killed. And categories of sexual abuse include: 1.Use of physical force to compel a person to engage in a sexual act against his or her will, whether or not the act is completed; 2.Attempted or completed sex act involving a person who is unable at the moment to understand the nature or condition of the act, unable to decline participation, or unable to communicate unwillingness to engage in the sexual act (because of underage immaturity, illness, disability, the influence of alcohol or other drugs, or because of intimidation or pressure); and 3.Abusive sexual contact.

    These are just a “few” characteristics that can be found in the profile of the common domestic abuser:
    Doesn’t show feelings or emotions easily (except anger)
    Jealous and possessive
    Into “macho attitude”
    Has a high need for aggression
    Corporate go-getter (salesman of the month etc.)
    Has a high need for dominance – may try to control everything or everyone
    Minimizes seriousness of abuse
    Often prone to addictions (drugs, alcohol, work)
    May have few friends
    Socially isolated – few resources available for support, help, or intervention in case the victim needs help.
    Emotionally dependent on the partner – goes to any length to keep her/him from leaving.
    Lies, having a secret life or addiction, may creates a web of lies.
    Has a “mask” that is worn in public, that is different than his darker, private behavior
    Will often become remorseful after abusing partner begging for forgiveness and promising never to do it again
    Tells you who the victim can/cannot be friends with – controlling
    Says “I love you” very early on in the relationship
    Blames anger on the partner or accuses them of attacking or provoking him/her
    Has difficulty taking responsibility for self – may blame actions on others, society, alcohol, work, partner, etc

    Nice to meet you Bill Compton…

    Even in TB, if Sookie would have been wiser, she would have taken very seriously Lorena’s words when she told Bill: “You did always like to prey on the innocent”; and to her: “I hope he doesn’t pull the same shenanigans with you. There is no excuse for domestic violence”.

    Because villain or not, Lorena only was saying the truth about who is the real Bill Compton.

    • 26 morrissa
      January 5, 2010 at 7:11 am

      Since this is my first post, I’ll start with thanking you, sookieverseblog, for writing this important post and having this blog. Much needed, much appreciated.

      Thank you, walgigi, for bringing up the really important stuff. This has been bothering me for a long time. I can’t really understand this positive reaction to Bill (and Twilight Edward, for that matter), because I have been aware about these things (violence against women) for more than 25 years and it’s not like it’s a secret or anything. Did Buffy have no impact at all? Haven’t women all over the world watched Oprah, at least? I’m at a complete loss here.

      Bill is very often referred to as being a Southern Gentleman and that is supposed to be a good thing. Well, I’m confused. I thought a gentleman was something else entirely, but obviously a Southern gentleman is a very specific thing, that has very little to do with morals and motives but more with putting up a show.

      In my opinion, however, Bill isn’t a gentleman, he’s an abuser, plain and simple. He’s a really dangerous person and there’s nothing romantic about him. Run, Sookie, run! Or, if that’s your cup of tea, stay and kick his ass. Stake him if you can. And no, you can’t change him. If you want to see how a real gentleman acts and talks, try reading up on your Dorothy Sayers and her leading man, Lord Peter Wimsey.

      (Sorry if this became wildly off topic, but I got it out of my system now, at least for a while. Thanks for letting me rant, but as walgigi said, this is a serious social problem, of which Bill is just another symptom, so I hope to see more rants on this subject.)

    • January 5, 2010 at 10:53 am

      I’m also really glad you brought this up gigi.
      Bill does fit many of the characteristics of the classic abuser.
      And it is quite a disturbing reflection on the way little girls are raised that so many women are able to rationalise, justify and reframe this sort of man until his negative traits are transformed into positive ones, and he becomes a romantic hero.

      This caught me as well, re the types of sexual abuse:

      1.Use of physical force to compel a person to engage in a sexual act against his or her will, whether or not the act is completed;

      The big justification for the trunk incident is usually that he was tortured and starved. But following close behind that is the fact that the act wasn’t completed – or “He stopped as soon as he realised it was Sookie.” So he didn’t intend to rape her therefore it wasn’t really rape.

      Yet Sookie was still forced into sexual contact that she did not want. Sexual contact that she tried hard to fight off. Whether Sookie’s mind was ready to acknowledge it or not, her body knows it was raped. It was rape.

      Charlaine’s personal backstory as a rape survivor leads me to think she probably thought she was being quite clear about what happened in that trunk.

      But I’m getting ahead of myself here, next post will be about the act itself…can’t wait to hear what you guys have to say about that. Some fantastic points raised here…

      • 28 caratstick
        January 6, 2010 at 6:17 am

        Also, what about this: “stopped as soon as he realised it was Sookie.” What if it hadn’t been Sookie? Would the rape have been OK if it had just been some random woman? Sheesh.

      • 29 Stef
        January 6, 2010 at 7:35 am

        You bring up a good point about CH and her choosing to mask the idea of Eric as the main contender for Sookie. Given the fact that CH was raped, the fact that she CHOSE to make Bill the “aggressor” makes it all the more obvious that CH’s comments in the media are just a smokescreen. If she was really thinking of making Bill the central character with all of the heart an soul that Eric has, she would have done it. Insted, Bill’s painted as manuipulative, domineering, arrogant and chauvanistic–not exactly the ideal for a “hero” character. And, she even thought about killing Bill off!! I think she’s just playing it up to get people more interested in reading her books just for the sheer purpose of debate.

  12. 30 liz
    January 5, 2010 at 7:38 am

    I too am glad you pointed this theme out. I dont remember in what book, but there was a passage with Sookie in Bills car, where he warns her not to encourage him, or he’d rape her, i lost all interest in Bill from then on……… i think it was DUD
    the fact that Bill still thinks/hopes, and even asks for another chance with Sookie makes me feel he isnt all that broken up over what happened in the trunk, but for some reason, he doesnt realize he’s in the same category as Sookies uncle, yes bills vampire, and he was starved, out of his mind bla bla bla, but i imagine Sookies uncle had a serious mental health disease, not to relieve him of his responsibility at all, but he should definitely never should have been around Sookie.
    Based on that i think Bill killed the uncle out of some perverse jealousy, and not defending her honor.

    • 31 Kristen
      January 5, 2010 at 4:48 pm

      Liz, this is an awesome point… very subtly written in the books. They are in the car after the Fangtasia raid, I believe (am I wrong here??), and she nips or kisses him in a certain way and he says something to the idea of “If you do that again, I’ll have you whether you want to be had or not”!?!?! WTF? Whether she wants to or not?? Is this supposed to be playful teasing, because I think it’s just sick.

      When I first read DUD, I thought CH had some serious issues with men (I only later found out she was a rape survivor and I was like “Duh!”) to write a protagonist male character as domineering and rough as Bill. It was written like – “wow isn’t this hot?” Bill is threatening to rape Sookie in parked car… who doesn’t love dirty talk like that?? (please note the sarcasm here)

      So, I was very worried about Ms. Harris – UNTIL I read Eric and Sam. Now, I’m no Sam and Sookie shipper, but what a good guy! And Eric combines the ideas of having passion for someone and being well taken care of at the same time (many women seem to choose just one or the other – all the drama and no tenderness OR being well taken care of and settled, but not passionate about each other). THIS is why I think Sookie can only end up with Eric… Bill is all high school drama and choosing Sam would just be “settling”. Eric is her middle ground and the MATURE choice. Bill is so old news (like your first high school love… sure, you can be nostalgic but you’d never want to go back there) I wonder why there is any debate at all?? Just to sell books, stir the audience, make Alan Ball (you #1 Bill Lover, you) happy??

      Shew… I am WAY too invested in these books. Should Sookie not recognize the above about Eric in the next book, I may throw my brand new copy through my bedroom window.

  13. January 5, 2010 at 10:20 am

    @kristin – oh no, I haven’t forgotten that nasty little graveyard incident. I’m saving that for the next post 😉

    @Cat – When I first saw the dream sequence I thought it was foreshadowing for AE as well. I still think it is (since he looks very human in that sequence and AE was all about showing us and Sookie that he was still capable of human feelings). But the more I think about RE’s sexual behaviour, it really isn’t that different to AE. Alot of the key traits are still the same – which I love.

    @caratstick – That TB scene..very similar in DUD where he complains about the vitamins making her blood taste funny and not wanting her to eat garlic or strong food. It’s like where the FUCK do you get off arsehat? She is ALLOWING you to feed from her and you have the HIDE to complain about the taste? Punch him in the face, the least of what I wanted to do to him. The nerve.

    @pogonip – you make a great point about Eric’s attitude towards women. From the way he describes the death of his human wife and his burying of her, to his choice to turn a woman as his companion in Pam, I think he does hold the view that women are partners rather than possessions.

    Welcome to all the new faces commenting today as well, it’s wonderful to have your input 🙂

    • 33 Kristen
      January 5, 2010 at 4:57 pm

      Ok… so one last point, and I then I must go back to real life =).

      I completely bristled in DUD when Sookie mentions, offhand, that Bill has her stop taking vitamins with iron because she tastes funny… WHOA… back up, Sookie, did you just say that you stopped taking vitamins that you are only taking BECAUSE of BILL because BILL doesn’t like it???

      This is the first one many times I wanted to shake Sookie. She claims independence and being a modern woman, but let’s Bill dictate what she eats, wears, etc.

      OH.. and remember the time when she comes out to meet Bill before leaving for Fangtasia and she is so proud of how she looks but notices him getting all dark and pissy like does?? He is so upset that GRAN has to stick up for Sookie and say how beautiful she was! That made me so mad, even we he gave the lame explanation of worrying about getting killed over her…

      Can you imaged RE or AE doing any of these things? Dictating anything about her day to day life? We’ve certainly seen him make decisions for Sookie to protect her, but never JUST to control her. Bill seems to just need to be in control, where as Eric wants her to be just her (garlic bread, vitamins and all) and will only change her life if there is some danger he recognizes that she might not.

      Ok, so all of this critique of DUD and CD and I now am even more convinced that Bill is so out and Eric is so in. There is just no way all of these hints to Bill’s (and Eric’s) character are accidental… Yea for positive thinking!

      • 34 liz
        January 5, 2010 at 10:11 pm

        really good points Kristen, when Sookie mentioned she stopped taking the vitamins, my first thought was that is a very typical response of a survivor of childhood abuse, being her first sexual experience was a traumatic one, and she was so very inexperienced when Bill came along. The girl really needs a therapist.
        It makes Eric so much more apealing……….. i am so ready for ditf to come out so i can get a dose of his hotness

        • 35 jahme
          January 14, 2010 at 7:27 am

          i have to defiantly agree, cannot wait until DITF to come out, i read the first chapter today and fell in love, but i have this odd feeling like CH is going to end erics and sookies relationship in this book and that her commitment to her new nephew hunter will become priority and she may even end up getting with hunters dad, would be so gross but i think it could occur.

          BTW Does anyone have any ideas about what they think will happen in the new book?

          110 days : ) til DITF is released !

  14. 36 cathy
    January 17, 2010 at 9:05 am

    omggg u all think these characters are human..U all forget there vampiresI get sick and tired of ppl thinking there human.. Wait till u see the weres HOw they mate Omg PPL.Eric is just as rough with sookie as Bill>they both have different approachs..One scene sookie says Eric rides her like a frieght train.. She though he would go right though her..

    • January 17, 2010 at 2:05 pm

      Speaking of blurring the lines – it seems from this comment and others you’ve made on previous posts here that blurring the lines may be an issue all round. These posts are comparing BOOK Eric and BOOK Bill. I use images from True Blood to illustrate my point because there are no images of scenes from the books. But I think my use of quotes from the books, and the fact that this whole series is discussing the book characters should make it pretty clear…that I’m talking about the books.

      True Blood is a completely different animal and it’s important to separate the two (to an extent – they are linked and it’s impossible to separate them completely) when we are discussing the books.

      I don’t think anyone is under the illusion that these characters are human – the discussion of these two vampires in human terms is simply to examine how their vampire nature is affected by their involvement with a human woman. We’re intimately familiar with the mating practices of weres and I’m not feeling that’s going to be much of a shock, having read the books quite a few times now. That would be evident if you’d take the time to actually read the site instead of trolling your pro TV Bill agenda on random posts.

      I have no problem with anyone posting their point of view here, and I welcome alternative viewpoints that are well thought out and posted with the intention of facilitating reasoned debate. If your interest lies primarily in trolling, or in defending a character in some fandom war..well that doesn’t interest me much at all, and this will be the first and last time I will acknowledge it.

    • 38 walgigi
      January 17, 2010 at 6:46 pm

      “omggg u all think these characters are human..U all forget there vampiresI get sick and tired of ppl thinking there human..”

      First of all, if you get sick with people like that and think we are that kind of people (which of course we aren’t, but it seems you aren’t able to notice it because you don’t even have the ability to understand what are we discussing here) then why do you waste your time and energy coming here and writing your comments?

      “Wait till u see the weres HOw they mate Omg PPL.”

      Second, we all know werewolves have sex as part as their packmaster’s initiation ritual, and while they remain in their human nature they have sex the same way as any other human. So, I really don’t understand your horrified “OMG PPL”…

      And last, like sookieverseblog just said, I actually think you are “trolling your pro TV Bill agenda on random posts”. So, “If your interest lies primarily in trolling, or in defending a character in some fandom war”, I have to say you picked the worst blog do it.

  15. 39 bellaella
    January 25, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    Hi all, I’ve just read all the books in a week, google Eric Northman fanfiction and I came across your blog via a FB discussion thread. Have enjoyed all 3 posts and all commenters!

    Eric is the best for Sookie because we all want a MAN! He gives her space, he helps her when she really needs it and he likes her for who she is. Did you realise that stupid, whimpy, silent Bill never gave her any presents or financial help she really needs unlike Eric?

    Eric was thoughtful in his gift giving. He gave her flowers when she was in hospital – which Bill never did. he paved her driveway which she needed. He always paid her for her services when she had to take time off work – which Bill never thought of doing when she was surviving paycheck t paycheck.

    Eric also has a sense of humor which Bill doesn’t have. So please, I hope Charlaine Harris doesn’t bow down to HBO and put Bill back with Sookie cos in real life, the actors are engaged. Eric is what we all want in a man 🙂 – strong, handsome, sense of humor, challenging…oh yes, he doesn’t whim all over Sookie like Bill, Quinn, Alcide , Sam, etc…I was just getting soooo frustrated with Bill and wished he would just get staked! Haha!

    BTW gals, in my googling, I came across this fanfic from Eric’s POV cos I wanted more of Eric – it’s not bad! CH should buy it! Read all 8 chapters, you won’t regret this…sigh! Team Eric!

    http://www.ericnorthman.net/fanfic/viewstory.php?sid=151&ageconsent=ok&warning=3

  16. 40 tigereyes
    January 30, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    I cannot for the life of me understand why so many love Eric/ Alex. He’s done worst things to sookie or just as bad. I believe Bill and Sookie are meant to be together and will be.

    • 41 VikingLover
      January 30, 2010 at 10:26 pm

      Then I’m curious as to why you stopped by this blog. This is clearly a blog dedicated to Eric and Sookie so I’m curious as to why you bothered to stop in and post. In any case, you are certainly welcome to your own opinions. However, it seems to me that you are basing your opinions on the show rather than the books. If you took the time to read the books, and read the posts on this blog, then perhaps you would certainly understand why so many love Eric for Sookie.

    • 42 Kealeagh
      January 30, 2010 at 10:43 pm

      Can you tell me your opinion on why Bill is so great for Sookie. I’ve honestly never seen a real response on this with good hard facts. I’m really curious.

    • 44 Maria
      January 31, 2010 at 12:11 am

      Have you read the books? I can’t understand why people who have read them love Bill (though I haven’t met any). You just admitted Bill has done “bad things” to Sookie. What “worst things” has Eric done to Sookie?

    • January 31, 2010 at 3:04 am

      In saying Eric has done “worse things” to Sookie, or just as bad, I’m guessing you mean the bullet sucking and the pledge. Since these are really the only two things that Eric gets levelled at him.

      I just can’t fathom, I just can’t – how either of these things are worse, or even just as bad – as what Bill has done. They just aren’t even on the same scale as far as I can see.

      I’ll just address the Eric thing, since Alex is not Eric and I’m slightly confused as to why they are getting lumped in together 😉

      The bullet sucking. That occurred at the very beginning, and I don’t think you will find a single EL who would say that Eric was being anything other than the opportunistic vampire he is. You probably would also be hard pressed to find an EL who wouldn’t agree that at that point, Eric’s interest in Sookie was very sexual in nature, and she was basically a curiosity to him. They barely knew eachother. They were certainly not in a relationship.

      And Sookie SAVED THE BULLET. She kept it. As a memento. This, and their “little bulletsucker/big bullshitter exchange just afterwards makes it pretty clear that this was not a big deal in the overall scheme of things. And she ended up having his blood anyway (when she really needed it) not long afterwards.

      The pledge…again you’ll get few arguments that Eric didn’t have a degree of self interest in doing this. Yet the fact remains that Sookie would have lost control of her life if he had not done it. That was the primary motivation behind what he did. She can see that. Most readers can see that. And what did Eric really get out of it anyway? Not much, his relationship with Sookie is essentially the same. What he got, was a King who is now very pissed off with him and he will eventually face consequences for that. Some deal huh?

      My point though is that neither of these things have an irreversible impact on Sookie’s life, on her being. Neither of them destroyed her emotionally the way Bill’s actions did. What Eric has “done” just pales in comparison…there is no comparison.

      He has never lied to her.
      He has never physically hurt her, or roughed her around.
      He respects her boundaries completely.
      He has never criticised her.
      He has never raped her.
      He has never paraded other women around in front of her to manipulate her feelings.

      Loving Sookie is not enough. DUD Sookie thought that it was, but that Sookie is no more. She is growing, she is changing, and she is learning. We don’t move backwards in life, we move forwards.

      I’ve yet to see any decent argument for Bill other than him loving her. I’d really love to though 😉

      • 46 Kealeagh
        January 31, 2010 at 3:15 am

        THIS! Brilliantly put as always.

      • 48 Holby
        January 31, 2010 at 4:40 am

        Oh Sookieverse…you are a wordsmith of the highest caliber.

        And thank you for bringing up the “parading other woemen” issue. Is he still in high school? (“I wanted to see if you would feel jealous.” YIKES)

        To go slightly off center here…and bring up why neither Alcide nor Bill is for Sookie: What man who genuinely cares for a woman attempts to seduce a battered and damaged woman within 24 hours of her sustaining those injuries? I LDID, Bill wakes up Sookie by sucking on her breasts and she is impressed that he’s being gentle with his fangs!!!! WTF? And she consents to sex if he can “treat me like I’m made of glass.” I would think that would be an indicator that she feels pretty cruddy.
        And then Alcide is so horrified that she’s been beaten up that he starts to cop a feel while giving her a goodbye kiss. Jeeesh.

        Sookie needs to learn some boundaries!

        • 49 walgigi
          January 31, 2010 at 6:47 am

          “To go slightly off center here…and bring up why neither Alcide nor Bill is for Sookie: What man who genuinely cares for a woman attempts to seduce a battered and damaged woman within 24 hours of her sustaining those injuries?”

          Actually, Holby, there’s no comparison between Bill and Alcide. Alcide’s intention never was to seduce her at that moment. There’s a difference between using and abusing as Bill used to did to her, and give someone a peck and feel something deeper and follow that impulse. In fact, even when Sookie was hurt, she enjoyed Alcide’s presence, his cares and his kiss:

          [He came in and stood looking at me. Finally, he put the suitcase back in my room, fixed me a big glass of iced tea with a straw in it, and put it on the table by the couch. My eyes filled with tears. Not everyone would have realized that a hot drink made my swollen face hurt.]

          [He was closer to me than I’d thought, and he gave me a peck on the lips in
          farewell. But after the peck, which was okay, he returned for a longer good-bye. His lips felt so warm; and after a second, his tongue felt even warmer. His head turned slightly to get a better angle, and then he went at it again. His right hand hovered above me, trying to find a place to settle that wouldn’t hurt me.
          Finally he covered my left hand with his. Oh boy, this was good.]

          [When he was gone, the house felt extra empty. He was so big and so energetic—so alive—he filled large spaces with his personality and presence. It was a day for me to sigh.]

          And, in fact, Alcide apologized after he did it. But if I use your premise, then I would have to say that Eric could not be for Sookie either because he also tried to seduce her at Rusell’s house, the night she was staked at Josephine’s. What I’m trying to say is that we have to analyze each case under the context of how Sookie reacted and felt at a given circumstance. And there’s no comparison between Bill and the other Sookie’s suitors because Bill is so pathologically dangerous and harmful, that he transcends ALL boundaries.

  17. 50 walgigi
    January 31, 2010 at 5:10 am

    I’m always awe of Bill’s fans… Their denial runs so deep that they think people will believe their statements without arguments… *roll eyes*

    In fact must be kind of difficult for them because they don’t have any… @@

  18. April 20, 2010 at 9:30 am

    Hello there! I am not sure if this has been mentioned before, so please excuse if it has. There is a passage in DTTW that further demonstrates that Bill is inconsiderate of his actions towards Sookie.
    When Sookie and Eric have sex in DTTW for the first time, he sucks blood from near her genitalia. The next morning, she thinks:

    “I was sore, but pleasantly so. I had a little bruise or two – nothing that would show. And the fang marks that were a dead giveaway (har-de-har) were not on my neck, where they’d been in the past. No casual observer was going to be able to tell I’d enjoyed a vampire’s company, and I didn’t have an appointment with a gynecologist – the only other person who’d have a reason to check that area.”

    We learn that Bill has always chosen her neck (“where they’d always been in the past”). The question is – why? There are plenty of other spots to choose from that have just as great a bloodflow (even TV!Bill says so himself to the police officer who checks him and Sookie after their flight from Fangtasia in episode 4). I think with “marking” Sookie, he wanted to highlight his possession of her – every time she looked in the mirror, she would be reminded of him, others would alienate her because of it, it would result in conflict with her own kind, even her friends (for example Sam is not thrilled), and she would be further driven into his arms. Also, making it purposely visible she is involved with a vampire makes her potentially unattractive to other suitors, who will be discouraged (may it be due to repulsion or simply fear).
    Eric’s choosing of where to bite her further reinforces the true intimacy between them, it’s a place that belongs to lovers only (“a gynecologist […] the only other person”). He doesn’t want to make a trophy of her, he considers her first. Bill’s doing shows he considers the perception of others towards Sookie/him and his own status first, long before he considers Sookie. This also shows what has been said all along, that Bill is suffering from an inferiority complex and has to constantly prove himself, while Eric already has power without having to behave like a preschooler who fears his toy might be taken away.

    • April 20, 2010 at 2:51 pm

      Oh, you are so dead on with this Melody.

      I actually had this in my notes to include in the second post in this series (The Act) but the post just got too long and I had to cut it.

      There is definitely a level of respect and intimacy shown in where Eric chooses to bite her in DTTW, compared to Bill’s preferred MO. Bill is all about marking his territory in a very visible way.

      Eric’s bite is just for them – he doesn’t need for anyone else to see it, only for her to know that it is there.

      • April 20, 2010 at 4:04 pm

        I simply cannot see what it is that makes Bill lovers tick.

        I often read the following… accusation:
        “If you only know the show, you will be on Team Bill, only those who have read the books are Team Eric, and they get confused with the book and TV characters not being the same.”

        I do agree that the book and TV characters are not exactly the same, still, I watched the show before I read the books and was on Team Eric anyway. Two other examples of TV!(!!!)Bill using bloodsucking and his vampiric nature as a dominating tool (and thereby failing and making me laugh):

        – When the FotS attacks Godric’s nest, and Bill runs out to feed on an adolescent, only to tell him afterwards (face still bloody and all, fangs extended) that he is a merciful vampire; that was hilarious. We get it, Bill, you’re not a hypocrite.
        – Another great one was after he had attacked Maryann and been poisoned by her foul, black blood, he cries to Sookie like a demanding baby: “Give me a wrist so I can heal!”

        The next great “argument”:
        “Team Eric is made up of those who are into ASkars.”

        I can understand ASkars is a good-looking man, but he is not my type, and I’d prefer the looks of Vampire Bill over his. The reason I am opposed to Bill is because he’s an abusive idiot with many complexes, not because I got the hots for Eric’s body, because I don’t. I’d personally be with someone like Eric rather than someone like Bill because he is of vastly superior and more noble character, and at the end of the day, that is what counts.

  19. 54 Peet
    April 29, 2010 at 10:50 am

    This post is brilliant! I love how much thought you’ve put into it, and the way you’ve written it makes it make so much sense!

    Thank you.


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