Season 3 Casting Call – Claudine!

A new casting call is out for S03 E07 – “Hit the Floor”. And I am very pleased to see this one!

[CLAUDINE] 30s-40s. A beautiful, kind and loving figure who knows a lot about Sookie, she appears to Sookie in a golden vision. However, their utopia is abruptly dismantled when Claudine issues Sookie a mysterious warning. Possible recurring.

She “knows alot about Sookie”? Oh, I can almost see Niall on my TV right now. I’m gathering after a bit of snooping around that certain parts of fandom are not at all happy about True Blood doing the fae storyline. I’m presuming that’s because it’s a pretty good indication that Ball doesn’t plan to eventually ditch the books completely, as they’d hoped.

Getting jerked around by Alan Ball sure does suck, huh. Poor dears. I wish I had some sympathy but the last two years have me fresh out.

I am not even going to contemplate what the “mysterious warning” might be. Too many horrifying possibilities there. Maybe it’s to stay away from empty parking garages and open trunks. Probably not.

Claudine actually appeared in the unaired pilot episode – watching from the bushes as Sookie rescued Bill from the Rattrays. She was edited out of the final cut for reasons unknown, but I’m really glad to see she’ll be brought back into the story. It’s interesting how many characters first introduced in DTTW are being brought out this season.

A screencap of Claudine from the unaired season one pilot episode.

Image: Loving True Blood in Dallas

127 Responses to “Season 3 Casting Call – Claudine!”

  1. 1 VikingLover
    March 10, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    I’ll be glad to see Claudine.

  2. 2 Ericrocks
    March 10, 2010 at 2:07 pm


    They should cast Liv Tyler or someone like her. She would be perfect in my opinion.

  3. 3 Kealeagh
    March 10, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Michelle Forbes would have been a good Claudine. Then we could have been given her talent without a shitty storyline (it’s still possibility). Well since the Mississippi storyline is pretty much wrapped after epiosde 6 (which is written by Alan Ball. NOOOOO), who know what the hells gonna happen on TB. I’m scared to find out.

    But this episode is written by Brian Buckner, so hopefully he’ll try and salvage the shit Ball will come up with.

    • March 10, 2010 at 3:19 pm

      Kealeah…I so completely agree with you about Michelle Forbes. That is all I could think of as I watched her wade through that Maenad shit. Even her voice is perfect. AND, since MF didn’t do nude scenes and Claudine doesn’t do the nasty, it would have worked perfectly! So disappointing to waste her talent that way!

      • 5 asifuentes
        March 10, 2010 at 7:01 pm

        I second that, while I was reading the books all I could picture was Michelle Forbes as Claudine. Her whole persona is a perfect fit for the character and I wish they would have considered her for this role opposed to Marianne. I really hope they put some effort into choosing Claudine.

    • 6 KittyKat
      March 10, 2010 at 4:05 pm

      Now I’m concerned, if the Mississipi storyline ends at ep. 6, what kind of filler are we looking at for 7-12? I don’t like it, in the books, the Mississippi stuff ends way after halfway into the book.

      So, unless something surprising happens, we can expect tons of AB fanfic for the rest? UGGGHHHHHH

      Like Tara crappy storylines. I simply don’t like her attitude, I still wonder why didn’t make her classier, less of a loudmouth, like in the books. They may peg her as sassy, I peg her as obnoxious.

      Wouldn’t mind if they went into a Jason and Crystal storyline, though, at least it would make sense Jason’s kidnapping in book 4, if jealousy was based on a lot more than an apparent one-night stand.

      • 7 MASpencer
        March 10, 2010 at 4:24 pm

        Maybe the storyline doesn’t end there. Maybe it spans closer to 8 or 9 episodes out of 12, with the last three or four setting up storylines for season 4– hence a few early entrances. This is what I’m really hoping for, at least.

    • 8 Ericrocks
      March 10, 2010 at 4:25 pm

      I love Michelle Forbes and she did a great job with the less than mediocre material she was given, but I think she is to old to portray Claudine. I know the fae age differently than, but I always had the impression that Claudine appears to be about Sookie’s age.

      • 9 Ericrocks
        March 10, 2010 at 4:26 pm

        Read ” differently than humans”. i am in dire need of an edit button.

      • 10 Janofarc
        March 10, 2010 at 5:25 pm

        I agree she would be too old but also not pretty enough. Claudine is the kind of beautiful that turns everyones heads male or female….

        I think the actresses who plays Zatanna in Smallville (Serinda Swan), maybe not tall enough though.

    • 13 Ashley H.
      March 11, 2010 at 10:15 pm

      I completely agree. Watching her as Maryann began to become so painstaking, it was like just kill her already! Something! Anything to make this plot line end!
      From the beginning I was hoping she was Claudine. Oh well, what a waste. Hopefully they choose someone amazing for such a wonderful guardian.

  4. 14 sunnynala
    March 10, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Bill fans do not know the meaning of getting jerked around by AB YET–but they will.

    • 15 sunnynala
      March 10, 2010 at 3:28 pm

      Oh lol, I completely forgot to say how excited I am by the casting of Claudine! I hope they get someone really really good, and yes MF would have been terrific but I am thisclose to being convinced MA will be reincarnated into another character. (foreshadowing: telling the dead Carl he hadn’t advanced much “in this life”)

    • March 11, 2010 at 2:32 am

      Muahahahahaaaaa! Suffer, little BLs! SUFFERRRRRRRR!


  5. 17 vikingvampgirl
    March 10, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    The only thing I didn’t like was that it said “Possibly” recurring role. But I can’t wait to see who is cast.

  6. 18 MASpencer
    March 10, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    I just have my doubts about all of this. I understand why the writing team would want to wrap up the Mississippi storyline sooner rather than later, after the snoozefest that the season-long maenad arc became. But really, that story arc was intolerable because it just plain sucked. If they had taken the Dallas storyline– which was incredibly strong– and spent more time on THAT, I doubt they would have heard half as many viewer complaints.

    Anyway, so much happens in Jackson during this installment in the book series, and I’m a little bit concerned about it all being boiled down to just six episodes. (If that’s even accurate.) But what concerns me even MORE is that they may be trying to squeeze the DTTW storyline into the second half of season 3, so that they can base season 4 on the plotlines from books 5 and 6.

    They wouldn’t actually do that… would they?

    • 19 KittyKat
      March 10, 2010 at 4:32 pm

      Also really concerned about that. Because fitting all into 6 eps PLUS still fitting side storylines for Sam, Jason, Lafayette, Arlene (maybe), how much time will they have for the actual main plotline?

      On another sidenote….

      AB, being the guy he is, will likely have Bill paying for Sookie’s driveway, so we likely won’t see that exchange either (minor detail but I am still pissed off with the Longshadow and maenad’s handling of Eric’s part in both). I know this detail is a minor one, but getting fed up with the trend. Still marginally hopeful (but only because I read that Andy Bellefleur and Bill’s family relation will be used in the storyline) but not by much.

      I guess what really irritates me is the whole handling of the Bill subject, it has been known for a long time now how Bill’s story evolves, and still they keep changing stuff to try and keep him as the romantic lead. And as far as I’m concerned, AP and SM being engaged shouldn’t be an issue, they’re actors, whatever goes on screen isn’t supposed to reflect RL (the two would have liked each other even if their parts weren’t involved that way – see Roswell’s Jason Behr and Katherine Heigl, Party of Five’s Scott Wolf and Paula Devicq), he fact that it did in S1’s Bill/Sookie storyline should be a perc for both of them, but not one to dictate a story that’s based on printed material. Odd part is I’m sure the actors themselves are aware of that, but apparently the fans of the pairing aren’t.

      Nothing against SM in any way, he seems a cool and funny guy, and don’t mind one bit if they expand his role and long at it doesn’t destroy the major plotlines, as I want to see the books on screen.

      There, I’m done for now 😀

      • 20 VikingLover
        March 10, 2010 at 5:50 pm

        [AB, being the guy he is, will likely have Bill paying for Sookie’s driveway, so we likely won’t see that exchange either..]

        I don’t think so, KittyKat – I think it will be Eric because otherwise why would they have Sookie mention it in front of Eric. That was a big deal from the books so they’d better not change that!

        • 21 T.Rece
          March 10, 2010 at 6:46 pm

          Oh VL you are too kind to this man, dare I say his name. In the books she never mentioned it to Bill. I think there is just as much, if not more, reason to question Bill’s presence. In that sense, provided he has Eric do the deed, it would actually be more significant. BUT…I truly do not have hope for that outcome. I have the beautifully wrapped purple dress from BILL to remind me otherwise. I literally choked that part out. It disgusts me so much. That is the kind of shit I’m talking about that makes me so frustrated and thus “indifferent” to the show. By “indifferent” I mean want to strangle someone. I think AB(his initials are all he gets from me)totally missed the mark. He claims he is mostly diverging from the story with the “supporting” characters. What this ridiculous ass man has failed to realize is that EVERYONE besides Sookie in the books is a supporting role! He makes Bill, Tara, Jason, Sam, etc. into lead roles and then gives the F-U to Eric? Did he read these books? Really? Eric and Bill–more so Eric, are the only other characters w/ a complex story arc. I get that he wanted to “change” things up. I actually like the depth that his lending other characters a POV provided. How he completely F-ed that up…is beyond me.

          Having suffered the complications of on-off-screen coupling (i.e. One Tree Hill-(Sophia Bush(Brooke)-Chad Michael Murray(Lucas))I’m not sympathetic. These fools got married and then divorced…and what do you know thier characters paid the price. Tangent I know. I just feel as though AB plans to disregard Eric for Bill the entire series. The man is a complete moron if he does so and then claims he’s sticking to the books.

          Also, since the warning from claudine will be issued in 7 and the MS stuff ends in 6, I’m betting it will have to do with Debbie Pelt. Apparently, AB’s Debbie will be even more of an uneccesary lunatic.

          What really pisses me off about Claudine coming in at this point (assuming nothing has changed w the Bill-Eric dynamic) is that unlike in the books Bill will look like a Saint and the report to Niall will reflect that.

          Indifferent, huh? Yea…not so much. I need to calm myself down. What I would give for 5 minutes with that idiot Ball!

          • 22 KittyKat
            March 10, 2010 at 8:00 pm

            Oh, and WTF is a casting call for Bubba???? please correct me if I missed it.

            Is he gonna cut Bubba out?

            • 23 T.Rece
              March 10, 2010 at 8:15 pm

              If he does maybe Eric and Sookie won’t get interupted!lol.

            • 24 Ericrocks
              March 10, 2010 at 9:03 pm

              AB has stated several times that Bubba will not be included in TrueBlood. There apparently would be too many legal issues with the King’s estate.

              I was upset when I read that, but I can completely understand.

              Plus I think alot of 70 year old ladies would get their panties in a wad if they heard about Elvis being portrayed as dimwitted vampire that likes to drink cat blood.

              he will be sorely missed.

              • 25 KC
                March 10, 2010 at 9:39 pm

                I think it’s completely a matter of licensing. The Presley family owns the rights to name, image and likeness of EP so (1) AB would have to pay a hefty licensing fee *if* the family agreed; and (2) No way on God’s green earth the family is going to agree to allow EP to be shown as a developmentally disabled vampire sucking kitties. Not ever going to happen.

                • 26 KittyKat
                  March 10, 2010 at 9:55 pm

                  Understandable, but still sucks.

                  Sooo we’re looking at someone else interrupting or the scene gone or heavily modified (which I assume won’t be to our liking)…bleh

              • 27 sunnynala
                March 11, 2010 at 1:02 am

                I don’t understand. If CH can use Elvis for her character so can TB. It’s the same thing, essentially.

                • 28 Ericrocks
                  March 11, 2010 at 3:21 am

                  In the books, he was never called Elvis. It was said several times not to call him by his other name because it would just upset him.

                  But you have a point. It clearly was supposed to be Elvis, even referencing some of his songs by name. I do not know how the legalities of that work, but CH was definitely able to use his literary likeness.

                  • March 11, 2010 at 4:33 am

                    You can write about anyone. And she does keep her distance by not calling his name. He’s not a main character, so she is not profiting directly from the use of his implied image…but putting his likeness on a screen would be a clear use of image, which is owned. I think that is the big difference.

          • 30 VikingLover
            March 10, 2010 at 9:57 pm

            [Oh VL you are too kind to this man, dare I say his name.]

            LMAO! You’re too funny TRece. Yeah, I’m still optimistic – I just feel that there has been too much foreshadowing and hints not to be right now. I’m kind of reserving judgement and trying to hold out hope until after I watch all of S3.

            • 31 T.Rece
              March 11, 2010 at 3:45 am

              I’m glad some of us can stay positive. You’ll be the ones filling me in when I WILL NOT BE WATCHING ANYMORE TRUE BLOOD.

              Pardon, I don’t mean to get loud with any of you. I just figure the more definite I sound the more likely I am to stick to it. I decided today that I can not watch–until, and only if, you all tell me AB has redeemed himself. I know that one person won’t do a darn thing to his ratings but I can’t stand to think that I’m promoting this madness. A part of me REALLY wants all book fans to boycott. I’d like for him to feel the wrath of 5%. What a joke! IMO he’s parading around like a cocky 12 yr old loidering in an abandoned strip mall. Someone needs to taser the shit out of him! Shock some sense into his pudgy ass and set him straight!

      • 32 Angie
        March 11, 2010 at 6:43 am

        SM has said before that he isn’t sure how much he and Anna are going to be working together in the future because he knows how much fans get bored of seeing the same couple together all the time. Plus, they, like everyone else on the planet, seem to love Askars, so I don’t think they’d want to ruin his role in the show.

        I’m really not worried about their RL relationship dictating the storyline (frankly, I think the reason they’ve tried to make the Bill/Sookie ship more palatable is just because the relationship was depicted as being so weak in the books, that there would be absolutely no rooting value for them if they stuck to that in the show.

        • 33 MASpencer
          March 11, 2010 at 3:47 pm

          You know, I have to agree with you on this. I’m one of those viewers who began reading the books AFTER the first season aired. And you know what? While reading the first book, I remember thinking that I liked what Alan Ball did BETTER overall. Bill was SUCH a douche in the first novel that it just made NO sense that Sookie would even be with him in the first place. I liked that Alan Ball made him a more heroic character in Season 1… and aside from the horribly melodramatic rescue effort in the finale, I think the changes he made to the character actually enhanced the story.

          The books are ridiculously fun, and it’s easy to see what Alan Ball liked in them. But like a lot of us, I’m sure he thought of little things that could or should have been different WITHOUT affecting the bare bones of the story. And making Bill into a VIABLE starting point– as opposed to a glaring example Sookie’s virginal delusion and naivete– was probably one of them. (No offense to Book Bill fans, but that’s just the way I see it.)

          Do some of the changes to the story bother me? Sure. But the show wouldn’t be as effective if we didn’t see things unfolding the way SOOKIE sees them. In the books, we have no choice but to see it her way, as we’re reading about these events THROUGH her. In the shows, however, this requires presenting some of the characters as more noble– or LESS noble– than they really are, in keeping with Sookie’s prevailing opinion of them.

          Anyway, I feel confident that the tables will eventually turn. And when they do, I think (hope?) that we’ll see that Alan Ball HAS stayed true to the spirit of the books after all.

          • 34 VikingLover
            March 11, 2010 at 5:32 pm

            I agree 100% MASpencer. Everything you wrote above really resonated with me. Very well said.

        • 35 Amschafe
          March 15, 2010 at 6:48 am

          Yeah i totally agree…i think AB has actually said that that was one of the reasons he changed Bills character…not 100 % sure but i think he said something to that effect. Bill in the books was cold and him and sookie didnt really talk about anything except everyday things…their relationship was mostly based on sex…he was her first and he was a vampire so it was good sex, and she just got caught in the whole first love, first great lay scenario.

    • 36 sunnynala
      March 10, 2010 at 4:58 pm

      Consequences, consequences. I think Bill will go to the queen over the v-selling because Eric “came close” to Sookie in Jackson. When that doesn’t work because she’s secretly in on it, Bill will go to the magister, whereupon Eric will reveal the edict, with Sookie present to hear all about it.

      • 37 Janofarc
        March 10, 2010 at 5:29 pm

        Nice theory (don’t worry I won’t steal this one!)

        • 38 sunnynala
          March 10, 2010 at 5:36 pm


          I just can’t see any way around another trip to the Magister’s court, and this is how the remainder of the season will play out, with a lot of cards on the table and some high-stakes gamesmanship between Eric and Bill. I’m convinced Eric will spend a lot of time in s3 investigating Bill and his odd connection to the queen, as well as some of his various other crimes.

          • 39 MASpencer
            March 10, 2010 at 6:08 pm

            Honestly, I’d be more than happy if we never saw the Magister again. I mean, we’re supposed to believe that vampires, despite their elaborate heirarchy, conduct judicial affairs in a JUNKYARD???? Even after we saw Nan Flanagan dish out political consequences in such a bureaucratic and civilized way?

            That makes about as much sense as Eric having a torture chamber in his basement.

            • 40 sunnynala
              March 10, 2010 at 6:16 pm

              Yes I think the junkyard setting was a mistake, possibly due to early budget constraints–something I doubt they have to worry as much about anymore. A more appropriate venue is definitely in order.

              And Nan may have looked civilized but she wanted to drain every one of those bastards, lmao. Oh Nan, never change. 😀

            • 41 Angie
              March 11, 2010 at 7:08 am

              Honestly, I’d be more than happy if we never saw the Magister again. I mean, we’re supposed to believe that vampires, despite their elaborate heirarchy, conduct judicial affairs in a JUNKYARD????

              Now, this I agree with wholeheartedly. The magister is a major dick. Plus, he’s violating so many human and vampire laws that I can’t understand how any vampires in positions of power, especially Nan Flanagan, would turn to him for any reason. He’s putting the entire mainstreaming movement in grave danger. How does that make even the least bit of sense?

            • 42 Gigi
              March 11, 2010 at 2:24 pm

              [I mean, we’re supposed to believe that vampires, despite their elaborate heirarchy, conduct judicial affairs in a JUNKYARD???? Even after we saw Nan Flanagan dish out political consequences in such a bureaucratic and civilized way?
              That makes about as much sense as Eric having a torture chamber in his basement.]

              [Yes I think the junkyard setting was a mistake, possibly due to early budget constraints–something I doubt they have to worry as much about anymore.]

              Well, I don’t think it was a mistake from them and IMO, AB made it that way, along with Eric’s torture dungeon, to show that, in TB, the mainstreaming movement is just a fake “pose”, a political agenda from the vampires (to gain political power and a status in society) and they really aren’t willing to change their predatory and animal ways of justice. At least for me, it was revealed in the fact that Nan Flanagan “believes” in the Magister as the ultimate authority in vampires issues (especially after her comment that she should drained everyone of them, what is proof of her true nature and thoughts). It was also revealed to me in the fact that Godric, despite his need for redemption, took his decision to “meet the sun” before fighting back their decision to fire him as Sherrif, because, as he told Sookie later, he wasn´t thinking anymore as a vampire. Not to mention that AB also wanted to show TB Eric’s unreliable personality, because after he made an agreement with Sookie about not to harm men and to bring them to human justice, he has a secret torture chamber in his basement to apply their own justice (Pff).

              • 43 MASpencer
                March 11, 2010 at 4:02 pm

                Yeah… I’m not saying that vampires’ concept of justice itself should be civilized. I’m just saying that I would expect them to carry it out with a little more “class.” 😉

                As for my issue with the torture chamber, that mostly stems back to Eric assuring Sookie that they have nothing to fear from a police raid, as they do nothing illegal at Fangtasia. I’d say a medieval prison in the basement is pretty illegal. Also, would a Shreveport bar even HAVE a basement? I would think the water table is far too high for that in most areas of Louisiana…

                It’s stupid, I know, but these are the details that ruin it for me. Ha.

                • 44 VikingLover
                  March 11, 2010 at 5:40 pm

                  I had no problem with the torture chamber because I kind of understand what they’re doing with Eric’s character on the show – he hasn’t evolved yet blah blah blah. What bothered me was just what you said – would an intelligent person (a 1000 year old Sheriff for that matter) really keep a torture chamber in the basement of his place of business where it could easily be discovered??? That didn’t make sense. Plus, I didn’t even consider that they probably wouldn’t even have a torture chamber in a basement anyway simply because of flooding. Yeah, it’s the little things like that. I guess they really didn’t expect the fans to be as detailed and observant as we are. lol They’d better step up their game! 🙂

              • 45 T.Rece
                March 12, 2010 at 5:20 am

                Gigi, I think you might be just as skeptical and hateful towards AB as I. It makes me happy.lol Not that I hate every decision he’s made, but in whole, I’d like to get my hands on him in a dark alley–show him some TB “justice.” Everytime I think about him–which I try not to do bc of its effect–my mind flashes to: 1. the purple dress from Bill, 2. Eric manipulating Lorena into holding Bill hostage…I think you get the picture. And it all goes down with that blasted BS Love theme in my head! Anyways, before I lost it again, all I wanted to say was that you’re feelings on the subject are refreshing to me!

              • March 12, 2010 at 7:08 am

                I think Eric’s agreement with Sookie pertained only to people she exposed. The whole dungeon thing was a whole separate issue to flush out the perpetrators of the fire & who is selling ‘V’ (or draining the vampires-whichever is more offensive?)

                • 50 Gigi
                  March 12, 2010 at 8:45 am

                  It isn’t so separate because is innocent to think TB Eric just created it to flush out the arsonists and the V sellers. As MA Spencer said Eric assured Sookie they do nothing illegal in Fangtasia, and a torture chamber is pretty much something illegal. Also, if she expected him as a vampire Sheriff to use their own methods of justice, she couldn’t be so horrified when she saw it and what they do to Laffayette (of course he’s her friend and he “kick ass”, but he is also a criminal). But certainly she was, and especially the viewers were, too, so they completely forgot about Laffayette and the arsonists crimes (selling drugs is indeed a crime) and turned them into victims and turn Eric into a villian just because of it.

                  In an article about Eric’s dungeon ( http://www.trueblood-online.com/the-vault-exclusive/true-blood-behind-the-scenes-the-fangtasia-dungeon-and-the-wheel/ ) TB Production Designer Suzuki Ingerslev says it was created by Alexander Woo and represents “the secrets that all of us prefer to keep hidden and buried. The vampires in our world have come out of the coffin, but that room is a concrete representation of the darker side of vampire-human relations.” “Ordinarily it would have been any kind of basement or storage room but in the hands of Eric it became a grisly prison where the worst kind of atrocity is practiced… The wheel was dreamed up by Alexander Woo, as a device Eric rigged to torture people. It is a complete view into his utter lack of compassion. “ 🙄 (this, in case that someone still has doubts about how they want people to percieve Eric in the show). Pffffff again…

                  And, as SVB said on another post, I also think that we probably are going to watch more scenes on it in the upcoming seasons.

              • 52 Amschafe
                March 15, 2010 at 6:55 am

                I thought Sookie told Eric she would help if if he turned whoever was stealing from the bar into the police, not if he never hurt humans as a form of justice. Their agreement was specific to that situation i thought. At least, thats the way it was worded.

                • 53 Gigi
                  March 15, 2010 at 7:39 am

                  Well, as I said above, it doesn’t matter what they agree, but HOW TB is portraying him and the words they are using to describe him in order to influence in a negative way the viewers opinion.

          • March 11, 2010 at 1:13 am

            I agree with you. I think it was made VERY clear in the last two episodes that Eric is smelling a rat. He doesn’t know what’s going on, but he knows Bill is not coming clean with him about something to do with Sookie and he’s starting to actively try to find out what it is.

            He’s had suspicions since season 1 – the reference to an edict didn’t come out of nowhere.

            He KNOWS that Bill went to Sophie Anne about the maenad behind his back. According the chain of command set up in both the books and the show, it should have been Eric going to QSA about a problem in his area, end of story. Underlings do not bypass the chain of command and go straight to the top. Yet Bill did exactly that. Eric walked in while Bill was walking out….of course he’s suspicious.

            He GAWKED at Hadley like WTF!? when she showed interest in Bill’s feelings for Sookie.

            He played BLUFF with Bill when he tricked him into admitting when he’d first given Sookie his blood. Eric didn’t know when it happened, but he had a fair idea and deliberately tricked Bill into confirming it for him.

            So it’s obvious he is onto it. I think season 3 will see his interest ramp up, and drawing a thread from Club Dead, Eric does his own investigating and digging on Bill’s whereabouts while Sookie is looking for him in Jackson with Alcide. I suspect that something like this will play out, and that digging around into Bill’s affairs will lead to Eric finding out about the edict, almost by accident. This would make more sense than the way he found out in the books. Basically after it was clear Bill had effed up and Sookie wanted no part of a relationship with him, QSA let Eric in on it.

            And yes, I think it’s entirely possible we will end up with Eric and SA in front of the magister (AB has mentioned that he may appear in S3), and Eric spilling the beans.

            Though I did like it that he made BILL own up to it from his own mouth in the books. It seemed somehow fitting that Bill should have to look her in the face and say it and I would prefer it to play out similarly 🙂

            • 55 sunnynala
              March 11, 2010 at 1:34 am

              Yeah, but TB Bill would never admit to such a thing–or if he did he would make excuses and try to wriggle out of it–“but ah lurrrve you Suckay”.

              I think Eric will be after every scintilla of dirt he can find on Bill. He’s going to find out how he and Lorena lived–like a pair of serial killers–his connection to the Rattrays and how that whole attack was a set-up to get his blood into Sookie,HOW HE AND LORENA KILLED HIS OWN WIFE AND TOOK OVER HER HOUSE,and possibly the fact that he killed GRAN (though that revelation will come much later in the series)Eric will be “out for revenge” against BILL, and partly due to the fact that Eric will be under fire from Nan for the vampire murder of the trucker, perpetrated by Bill’s neglected child Jessica.

              • March 11, 2010 at 1:52 am

                Oh Book Bill also made excuses and tried to worm his way out of it….but he had to SAY it – if he didn’t Eric was standing right there ready to do it for him – and I thought that was poetic justice.


                OMG you are fucking EVIL. And I LOVE IT. I think I would damn near have a heart attack if they go here. After listening to all the Bill bangers going on and on and ON about how romantic these Caroline scenes are going to be….I would literally die a thousand deaths if they have Bill and Lorena kill her and shack up in the house….oh wow can you even imagine it LOL.

                • 57 sunnynala
                  March 11, 2010 at 2:04 am

                  *mwahahahahah* Get ready to have a heart attack cuz they are def going there, just watch and see. The Chicago couple was foreshadowing–and just think about it: After seeing Bill’s nice house, Lorena would WANT to move out of her shack in the woods, yes? Why else would they go back there after Lorena made him leave the first time?

                • March 11, 2010 at 2:36 am

                  This would totally make my life worth living.

                  • 59 T.Rece
                    March 11, 2010 at 3:37 am

                    Lena!haha I totally agree. And, I might add, I won’t accept ANYTHING short of it.

                  • 60 VikingLover
                    March 11, 2010 at 3:49 am


                    OMG PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN!!!! I would kiss AB on the mouth for such a gift!!! Although, if they did this then that would mean that Bill would not be related to the Bellefleurs. Also, I don’t think Bill would kill his kids and they would have had to kill the children as well, no? Doesn’t TB Bill have kids?

                    • 61 sunnynala
                      March 11, 2010 at 4:09 pm

                      On TB, maybe he won’t be related to the Bellefleurs–maybe he raped his slave woman and is an ancestor of Tara and Lafayette! Wasn’t there an odd sort of recognition between him and Lettie Mae? LM would know if she weas descended from a white slave owner, and to Bill she may resemble her unfortunate ancestor.

                • 62 Amschafe
                  March 15, 2010 at 7:04 am

                  They have seriously been going on about how romantic the Caroline scenes are going to be !? Is it just me, or does anyone else think it would be stupid to bring Caroline into Season 3 to show how “romantic” Bill was when he was with her? Doesnt that seem kind of pointless. And it wouldnt go with the storyline either, unless Bill was having romatic flashbacks of his wife. I think not thought. Maybe one will be nice, but i think they have a more sinister purpose.

          • March 11, 2010 at 2:47 am

            I’d look forward to Sherlock!Eric.

            • March 11, 2010 at 4:35 am

              LOL…Maybe the hair is a moot point since he will probably be wearing the deerstalker hat for the whole season! Can a vampire smoke a pipe???

              • 65 VikingLover
                March 11, 2010 at 5:47 pm

                [On TB, maybe he won’t be related to the Bellefleurs–maybe he raped his slave woman and is an ancestor of Tara and Lafayette! Wasn’t there an odd sort of recognition between him and Lettie Mae? LM would know if she weas descended from a white slave owner, and to Bill she may resemble her unfortunate ancestor.]

                OMG Sunnynala, you are too funny! LMAO! I spit out my coffee when I read that! Hahaha! That would definitely be something! 🙂

                • 66 sunnynala
                  March 11, 2010 at 6:04 pm

                  LOL, well you know I never put anything past Bill. In my eyes, he’s capable of absolutely anything. (except maybe killing his children. I still don’t know what he could have done with them after killing Caroline. Perhaps he found a way to send them away to Boarding School)

  7. 67 Maria
    March 10, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    I glanced at the comments after the Claudine casting call announcement and there are a lot of haters talking shit about the “bookies.” They’re saying that the bookies are ruining the show since the only reason the fairies are being introduced is to satisfy us Someone even said that the books are “silly.” I’m really suprised because I feel like the books are much better than the show. Season 2, which veered far from LDID, was not well written. I’m sorry I feel like if you are going to base a show off a series of books, then important aspects from the books should be followed. Otherwise why not just create your own vampire show?

    • 68 VikingLover
      March 10, 2010 at 5:59 pm

      That’s ridiculous. As if AB gives a shit what the bookies have to say. If so, Eric woul be the hero of the show, no???? Let me guess though, was it the Bill Bangers that were saying that??? Of course it was! Ugh. Those comments are ridiculous considering that the show is based on the books (even if just loosely based). Did they not think characters from the books would be used??? So stupid.

      • 69 T.Rece
        March 10, 2010 at 7:18 pm

        Ridiculous it is! AB could care less about bookies…that’s been blatently obvious for a while now. Remember: we’re only 5% of his audience. **Extreme eye-rolling**

        The funny part is, I can accept TB-Bill Bangers(as long as they truly keep their paws off the books). AB has manipulated the story in a way that precludes Bill worship. Honestly, had I never read the books, I might be one of them–sure he’s lame but the only other option they really provide is Sam, who was banging her best friend for a while there.

        Needless to say, I think that the real concern is the BOOK Bill Bangers–the ones who have completely lost their minds! You know them. They often intermingle TB and Book references into one argument, causing anyone like me to shit a brick. Notice the Bill love returning to Sookieverse in books 8 & 9? Wonder why. **more eye rolling**

        The fact is, TB Bill Bangers, who more than likely started these outrageous claims against us “bookies” are just throwing a temper tantrum. The group they should really be directing their “anger” at is the strickly TB-Eric Lovers (or rather ASkars lovers.lol).

        However, I’m willing to bet that there are some pretty crafty Book Bill Bangers on the sidelines, playing puppet master, and leading the ignorant into battle. Bill is practically a Saint on TB, so what would they have to fear? When you think about it, it makes no sense for them to worry. “Bill Sympathizers,” my term for his loyal(possibly deranged) fans from the novels, are the only group that have a vested interest in stirring up controversy on the subject. I wish someone would call them out on their “high-handed” dealings. Since, we all know they soooooooo against this behaviour. **ending with a single eye roll**

        • 70 Angie
          March 11, 2010 at 7:26 am

          I think that the real concern is the BOOK Bill Bangers–the ones who have completely lost their minds!

          Heh, I read the first book before I ever watched the show, and I can’t imagine how anyone could read DUD and still think that Bill/Sookie are this amazing, fated-to-be-together couple. If I had just watched the first season, and not read any of the books, maybe sure, but… who am I kidding, after seeing naked!Eric, I would totally have changed my mind anyway. LOL

    • 71 sunnynala
      March 10, 2010 at 6:13 pm

      Maria, I would definitely like to read those comments. Could you give us a link? TIA

        • 73 Janofarc
          March 10, 2010 at 6:46 pm

          OMG! Those poor poor souls! They’re so desperate for Sookie and Bill to stay together they don’t even want Amnesia Eric to be mentioned let alone filmed. That was a scary site, I don’t want to go there again and if you force me you’ll have to hold my hand!

          • 74 sunnynala
            March 10, 2010 at 6:58 pm

            LOL janofarc! It IS scary. “I believe in AB!!” LOL, wrong move Bill fans–your hearts are about to be broken!

            • 75 T.Rece
              March 10, 2010 at 8:22 pm

              I believe in AB’s ability to fuck everything up!

              I also previewed that site and my blood boiled. I couldn’t help but comment. More than anything I hate when people ASSUME things like: most people who fell in love with TB season 1, didn’t like the books.” Where on earth do they get this nonsense from? I feel I was more than polite in my response. I wanted to start a tirade but I didn’t have the will to keep it up on my own.lol And, since it’s clear that they FEAR the books influence, I just laughed.

              BTW…exactly what “political” angle are they proposing? Did they watch the maenad shit? More than half of the show was dedicated to nasty orgies. NOT EVEN EXCITING ORGIES! They were make you want to puke your mouth orgies. Or, as someone mentioned…maybe we should go back to the junkyard to revisit the magister. Yea, Very political indeed.

              • March 10, 2010 at 9:02 pm

                T.Rece, I was happy to see you take a stand over there!!! Arrrrrggggh!!! I anticipate becoming much angrier later when our posts are responded to!

              • 77 Ericrocks
                March 10, 2010 at 9:27 pm

                T. Rece,

                You are a brave soul! I gave up trying to argue the point many months ago. There is no swaying a Bill Banger. I find that they usually will get nasty if you try to bring to their attention very valid reasons why our Viking is the better vamp.

                • 78 VikingLover
                  March 10, 2010 at 9:43 pm

                  You guys are brave souls. I try not to venture into Bill Banger pro sites because I can’t take the aggravation! Their view points and arguments make me want to pull my hair out of my head.

                  • 79 Ericrocks
                    March 10, 2010 at 9:47 pm

                    They also make me wonder what the hell kinda drugs they are doing.

                    : )

                    • 80 VikingLover
                      March 10, 2010 at 10:03 pm

                      Ditto Ericrocks! I still can’t believe there are people who have read the books that are still pro Bill. Regardless of who “gets the girl” in the end, how can anyone still be pro Bill??? I’ll never understand it.

                    • 81 T.Rece
                      March 11, 2010 at 3:25 am

                      haha. You guys are funny and always brighten my day. The Bill Bangers from TB don’t bother me so much as the bookies. At this point (as much as it pains me to say) Bill is looking a hell of a lot better than Eric. Which, is why my frustration lies with AB.

                      The only thing that truly bugs me is a comment about Bill being the better man in the books or overall–because of his character in TB. The books are the ORIGINAL. The platform. Or as I like to say: bible. I love when the morons go on about Bill’s character based off 24 hours of TV! The bookies have 2700 pages and YEARS of evidence that point to the contrary. So, if AB continues to manipulate Eric and Bill against that it is HIS choice and his own grave. The “Sookieverse history” will remain unchanged. Thank God!

                      I think AB should just come out and say TB has no other connection other than names-places. But, I suspect he is too afraid to do that bc he knows that his audience being only 5% bookies is a crock of shit.

                • 82 T.Rece
                  March 11, 2010 at 3:47 am

                  I’m not that brave. I’m about to check back right now and I’ll admit I’m not looking forward to it!

              • 83 sunnynala
                March 10, 2010 at 10:25 pm

                T.Rece, the “political angle” BL’s are agitating for is that Bill is *really* working for the AVL and not the queen. They theorize the AVL sent him undercover to spy on her! and that there will be no such thing as an edict on TB, or if there is, Bill only played along to trap QSA. ROFLMFAO!!!

                • March 11, 2010 at 12:56 am

                  I know I just posted this on your blog sunny but just mentioning again here – I’m not completely discounting the idea that Bill has ties with the AVL.

                  Where I diverge from the “popular theories” is that I don’t necessarily think the AVL are all sweetness and light (witness Nan’s public persona as opposed to the “real” Nan we’ve seen off the TV), and if Bill IS connected to them, I don’t think it will be for any great noble purpose…more likely something dodgy and deceitful.

                  It always struck me as odd that the meeting w/Nan in IWRU was Nan, Godric (sheriff), Eric (sheriff), Isabel (Godric’s 2IC)…and Bill? Umm WTF was he even doing there? Very odd.

                  • 85 sunnynala
                    March 11, 2010 at 1:08 am

                    Here’s the thing–the AVL seems to be a PR tool of the monarchs masquerading as a vampire civil rights advocacy group–this sort of thing is prolific in the “real” political world–and I just can’t see the AVL trying to bite one of the hands that feeds it. It would be like the Acme PR Firm sending spies to take down one of it’s own paying clients.

                    • March 11, 2010 at 3:02 am

                      You know, you guys have made me wonder…Nan is so diabolical. Perhaps continuing the sale of V is a full conspiracy…A) it provides funds for the political agenda and B) it provides a high profile opportunity to portray vampires as victims (very important if you are trying to downplay the whole predator reputation). Perhaps once Bill tries to get ol’ Eric in trouble, he finds himself in a much larger intrigue!

                    • 87 T.Rece
                      March 11, 2010 at 3:30 am

                      Hmmm…interesting. I didn’t think of the AVL. But, these people really need to get a grip. TB is in no way shape or form a “political” drama. Flashback: Orgies every 5 mins.
                      Just like AB needs to come out and confess, these fools need to just fess up that they could give two shits about political shit. It’s just a delusion they’ve concocked to serve their purpose of solidifying Bill as a shining hero…or atleast not a douche.

                  • 88 Jo
                    March 11, 2010 at 1:31 am

                    I do not think Bill has something to do with the AVL, he was there simply to keep Sookie ;), he really has no importance in the plot to me was only “boyfriend” companion, unfortunately he could not stay out as is one of the “protagonist” arrghh! really Bill also does not work, has no interest in anything … only play Wii
                    sometimes I think that’s why we inserted both the Bill in the lead in the plot Menead for him to have some “relevance” in history, after all if he was not there to tell Sookie to do what would have happened? “rolling eyes”

                    • 89 VikingLover
                      March 11, 2010 at 4:25 am

                      [It’s just a delusion they’ve concocked to serve their purpose of solidifying Bill as a shining hero…or atleast not a douche.]

                      I agree, T.Rece. This is the first time I’m hearing about this Bill Banger theory and it made me want to puke. Why can’t the BB’s just accept the fact that Bill was sent by the Queen in both the book and the series. Period. Deal with it already, BB’s!

                  • 90 Gigi
                    March 12, 2010 at 5:51 am

                    Could be true that he has ties with the AVL, because he was the only one who said that he doubted the King of Texas would approve the destruction of the vampire’s international political agenda as an argument against Stan’s “movie” plan to anhiliate the FotS’ vermins LOL (while Eric and Isabel weren’t thinking to such a macro scale). But for me it’s dificult to accept it because he was very defiant with the Magister, blatantly rude and disrespectful with his Sherrif, and he even showed to the Queen his impatience in a kind of a rude way, when he abruptly stood up and walked to the door because she was delaying the game and didn’t want to give him the info he wanted about the manead (you know, his classic problems with authority figures). And at least, IMO, a vampire who represents or is member of the AVL must respect and be under the authority of their superiors without question. Also, IMO, he was in the meeting with Nan, as well as Sookie was, because they ALL were responsible for the incident at the church of FotS, which in turn provoked Luke’s suicide attack to the house of Godric (for me is so funny to remember the way he entered the FotS wooshing and screaming SUKEEEEE!!!! HAHAHA After so much news that he was going to kill everyone there, at least they let him push the guy who was grabbing Sookie AHAHAHA). Anyway, it could be true because we’re talking about AB, so we can expect anything from him, especially when he doesn’t care about the lack of consistency in his fanfic…

                    • March 12, 2010 at 3:49 pm

                      Actually, in reading your post, Gigi, I am beginning to think more about the AVL angle.

                      [a vampire who represents or is member of the AVL must respect and be under the authority of their superiors without question]

                      Not so…look at how Nan, not an official leader in the political construct (ie not a queen or sheriff) but waltzed right in and started giving orders to the Sheriff of Dallas. I have a feeling she would also feel fine barking at a queen or king. Bill remained silent, casting eyes at Sookie and darker eyes at the one person talking back to Nan, Eric (of course, superficially because he’s jealous, but maybe also because he’s aligned with Nan and Eric is disrespectful???). Perhaps this alignment with the force that is the AVL and Nan gives him a sense of empowerment to disregard Eric and walk away from QSA???? And the magister? Pfffft. UNLESS he’s concerned about maintaining a cover, then he has to demonstrate a semblance of subordination: hence, the grudging submission to authority.

                    • 92 Gigi
                      March 12, 2010 at 5:47 pm

                      [Not so…look at how Nan, not an official leader in the political construct (ie not a queen or sheriff) but waltzed right in and started giving orders to the Sheriff of Dallas.]

                      [a vampire who represents or is member of the AVL must respect and be under the authority of their superiors without question]

                      They aren’t her “superiors”, Holby. She doesn’t lives in Godric’s or Eric’s Area. She is in Los Angeles. We don’t know who are her superiors or if she acted on her own initiative or by order of a superior political authority to ALL of them. But I doubt very much that she has done it on her own initiative without having had before the approval of THAT superior authority to make decisions of this nature. Because despite that Eric called it a bureaucrat (and indeed she is), the mainstreaming movement is an international political agenda, and in America, the AVL is the body designed to represent that political agenda. Anyway, IMO, the issue was discussed in the vampire’s highest political level, and consequently, she was sent to enforce their decision because she even said it was a national vampire disaster, and that nobody on the top had any simpathy for any of them.

                    • March 12, 2010 at 6:38 pm

                      Fair enough, fair enough. I am just positing theories here…
                      I do wonder to whom the AVL answers, however; who are those “at the top.” Could be the queens and kings, or, like you said, mainstreaming is international…is our American queen/king system the norm or something uniquely American…and how much power do they, then, actually have in the whole big picture?

                      [Honestly…I just love this site!!!!]

                    • 94 Gigi
                      March 12, 2010 at 9:01 pm

                      I think TB must have some sort of vampire political hierarchy above the state’s Kings and Queens, because I can’t remember exactly if it was Sam Trammell or AB who said something about the possibility that Sophie Ann will get into trouble if her superiors discover that she is selling “V”.

                    • 95 Dwimordene
                      March 13, 2010 at 10:48 am

                      Mmm… Sorry, but, what is the AVL, I got lost about this theory. (It’s difficult to understand al this words)

                    • 96 Gigi
                      March 14, 2010 at 12:59 pm

                      Sorry, Dwimordene lol. AVL = American Vampire League.

              • 97 VampirePamsGirl
                March 11, 2010 at 5:56 pm

                T.Rece, I definitely applaud you and the others that posted over on that other site. Not so much for bravery, but for stating your opinions in such a polite manner. I admit that I followed the link to see what you guys had said and I almost posted there myself, but I stopped myself from doing so. I’m not so sure I could be as well-mannered as you all were. My inner bitch gets loose sometimes, especially in the face of false generalizations. Myself and everyone that I know that picked up the books after Season 1 of TB ended up loving the books more than the show. So I guess we’re all in that minority with you! 😀

                And as for the books being silly…well yeah, but they’re not any more silly than that show. And that’s part of why I read the books and why I watch the show. If I wanted serious I’d read Tolstoy and watch the Discovery Channel! 😉

                • 98 sunnynala
                  March 11, 2010 at 6:07 pm

                  They already know me and hate me (as you can imagine) so I didn’t even bother! 😀

                  • 99 VampirePamsGirl
                    March 11, 2010 at 6:19 pm

                    Ah, that’s okay Sunny! We love ya! 😀

                    Seems like the BBs often dislike anyone that tells them things that they’d rather not hear, lol.

                    • 100 sunnynala
                      March 11, 2010 at 6:46 pm

                      Yep. I followed some hits to my blog from the Bill’s wiki’d women and they were calling me a deranged and delusional drug user. LOL!!! I loved it…and I love you guys too!

                • 101 T.Rece
                  March 12, 2010 at 5:25 am

                  [If I wanted serious I’d read Tolstoy and watch the Discovery Channel!]

                  Exactly…so true! And immensely funny.

                • 102 Amschafe
                  March 15, 2010 at 7:25 am

                  They only call the books silly because so far the show is going their way and therefore they want the books far away from the show because Bill is ultimately screwed.

            • 103 Amschafe
              March 15, 2010 at 7:15 am

              Really “They believe in AB” LOL WTF is that supposed to mean? LMAO so basically they think that AB couldnt possibly ruin the Bill/sookie romance because god forbid if he does….seriously some of them are borderline delusional and every time you say a single bad think about Bill its an all out war, even if its not a pro Bill thread. I have seen the Bill Bangers refer to Eric fans as a”rabid dogs” i kid you not and “obsessed”. Wow, hypocritical much. At least im willing to admit Eric has flaws, while they refuse to admit Bill can do anything wrong, because what he does all has “good intention”. Yuck. Ugh.

  8. 104 asifuentes
    March 10, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    I second that one. All I could picture while reading the books was Michelle Forbes…her whole persona fit the Claudine character so well.

  9. 105 Ericrocks
    March 10, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    This casting call brings to mind a question I have. I just started Book 5, Dead as a Doornail (rereading the series for the 4th time). There is a scene in Merlotte’s when Claudine comes in, and of course everyone is in awe of her. She looks over Andy, but then moves on when she observes that he is drinking ice tea with lemon. (Killer lemon juice, right). Claudine then proceeds to sit down and order a 7 & 7. Now maybe I am being nit-picky, but isn’t Seven Up LEMON-lime soda. How can she consume that? Or is that just another glaring fuck up on CH’s part?

    • March 11, 2010 at 2:39 am

      Maybe lemon flavoring is okay, but real lemon juice is the culprit? I’m not sure how much real lemon there is in lemon-lime soda…

    • March 11, 2010 at 2:58 am

      Honestly, Ericrocks, I am just so fed up with CHs fuckups…she doesn’t even maintain consistency sometimes within a chapter! In DAAD, when the detective Leed’s wife comes into Merlotte’s, she tells Sookie that she’s just been at her house. Then, not four sentences later, Sookies has to give them directions to her house for their appointment the next morning! WTF? In CD, when Eric and Bill destroy the gang in Sookie’s house, Bill asks how they knew where to find Sookie. Then, a paragraph and a half later, Bill tells Eric and Sookie that the Weres got Sookie’s address off the internet. I have no faith in her ability to remember that SHE stated that fairies are very allergic to lemons AND limes (and I caught that 7&7 reference, too…how could you develop a taste for even artificial lemon lime if you are deathly allergic to the real stuff?).

      Thank you for letting me vent about something that really bugs me as an OCD individual!

      • 108 T.Rece
        March 11, 2010 at 3:51 am

        Holby, I don’t think you have to be OCD for her inconsistencies to bug you. I know they irk the shit out of me. Especially now with that nit wit AB pissing in her ear all the time, I’m afraid she might forget the amazingness of Eric!

  10. 109 Stef
    March 11, 2010 at 4:01 am

    I’m thinking Charisma Carpenter would be a good choice for Claudine. She has that “look”.

    • 110 Angie
      March 11, 2010 at 7:37 am

      Oh, hello girl crush!

      I loved CC on BtVS and Angel, but I’ve never seen her play a character who wasn’t snarky. Claudine isn’t really that snarky (except towards Amelia maybe). She is definitely beautiful enough, though.

    • 111 Kealeagh
      March 11, 2010 at 2:35 pm

      OMG. That would be made of SO MUCH win. I miss Cordelia the fiercest bitch ever on television high school.

    • 112 VampirePamsGirl
      March 11, 2010 at 5:35 pm

      Good one Stef. I could absolutely see Charisma Carpenter as Claudine checking Eric out saying, “Well, hel-lo, tall, blond, and dead.” Plus like Angie, I loved CC on BTVS and Angel as well.

      I do agree with the earlier comments too though about how Michelle Forbes would have made a great Claudine. I actually thought that’s who she was supposed to be when I first saw her on screen with Tara, lol.

  11. 113 T.Rece
    March 11, 2010 at 5:30 am

    Okay my lovely ladies…I’m going to pull a little backpedelling move. In my frustration I may have targeted or “talked crap” about something that I really did not intend to. I still think that there are alot of TB fans-Bill lovers who would do just about anything for Bill to remain saintly; however, none of the commenters on the other site mentioned it. Plus, I know that I am NO better in wanting AB to follow the books.

    You can never make everyone happy, but atleast if I knew one way or another I wouldn’t waste my time. Apparently I’m a very “relationship” viewer. I dream of a day when TV shows are required to post the coupling like fanfiction!lol Pathetic…yes, but honest.

  12. 114 Angie
    March 11, 2010 at 6:58 am

    I still have (actually more than) a shred of faith in AB. I never thought they were going to ditch the fae storyline at all, not after all the “What are you?” comments, and Sookie’s glowy magic hands (I think I was the only one who liked the glowy hands – it just made it perfectly clear to me that they weren’t going to gloss over her other-worldliness.)

    I still predict that the last episode will probably include Jason’s kidnapping by Felton (and possibly some other Hotshot peeps), and Eric running down the road to Sookie’s house. If those scenes aren’t in the S3 finale, then I will be pissed.

    • 115 Kealeagh
      March 12, 2010 at 12:51 pm

      I’ve actually been sucked into Alan Ball’s mind lately. I hate him, but I’m starting to grow faith in the other writers. Just not him and Raelle Tucker. Ugh. But, I’m leaving behind some hope, despite this season seeming like a clusterfuck.

      This revelation only just came to me like two weeks ago, so it could change once these mini-sodes or promos come out. I actually really want a promo like the season 2 ones with the Bob Dylan song, those were awesome!!

  13. 116 dwimordene
    March 11, 2010 at 8:49 am

    A movie that has follow exactly the book is never good… So that doesn’t worries me. But everything must keep continuity and reality as well as the sensibility of the characters and the plot. I have to say that True Blood is better done than the books, I watched it because AB had done American Beauty and Six Feet Underground, which are great works; but we just got this very bad series with even worse actors (as “Sookie”, whom is terrible).

    I came to read the books, even when I didn’t like at all CH writing (and English is not my first language), because in S2 I saw a big turn in roles and I wanted to know what was happening next. THen I saw that everything was different.

    THe Meneade thing was crap, and I had always to pass it, but today it seems that there must be a lot of sex for something to be bestseller, we have achieve a culture of rude and not sensible sex, fisical-animal needs and not love and caring (though it doesn’t seemed AB).

    About Eric. Sorry, you seem wrong, reread the books, I’ve done a few times, but download pdf and just read looking for “eric”. In True Blood they have given him a much important role and more appearences as well as (with crappy exceptions) more sensible and intelligent. We have also an actor that is making a perfect Eric (way better than the one of books) and who is behaving as a 1000year old vamp. Yes, it has seem a maniac in the basement, but these vamps are much more violent (I never expected it was eric there in the basement) and we are seeing other parts of his personality with Godric.

    We have alse in s1 the rape in the cementery… We can not hear her thought but is like the 2ond time she fucks, no way she could like that… I thought it was disgusting. She also had a nightmare about Bill and good dreams about Eric. And we have sensible awaken scenes between S and E as the meeting one, the slapping, the realise of Eric and the hand touch. Little things, details that make me come to like the bad guay (with in movies is usually better than the stupid first character).

    You also talked about Caroline… I think is the most sensible and human vamp at the moment, I love her and her role… I don’t think she was the sanguinarian in the past, Bill seemed to enjoy. Remember humans are no angels.

    For Bill, he has to be more real, in the books you just hate him… If you want to deal with sexual and home abuse (as caroline said) you can’t have an only bad guy. You need someone whom you can love, and then you are unable to tell when is good or bad… Or even if he does bad things at all. Don’t you think these women would never marry them? Why should they? And why should they return? But we have gotten already a rape, a push, bad words, screams… And his way with his new daughter is helping in that, I think.

    For fairies… I never like them, but I hope he uses them right, as well as to make us understand some supernatural phenomenon.

    Just hope, even if this gets away from the books, that it has something to talk about and that it follows a continuity and reality, not a stupid and superficial romance, the world has many of those.

    • 117 Mia
      March 11, 2010 at 12:15 pm

      I disagree on a couple of points. Yes TB Eric had more time this season than in season 1, but book Eric had better quality time with Sookie that makes sense in the context of their future relationship. He cared for her injuries after she escaped Gabe/FotS in the book. He protected her from the bullets when FotS attacks Stan’s compound. Additionally although Eric tricked her into taking his blood in the book, he didn’t abandon her like Bill did by running after the attackers. Throughout he flirted and tried to persuade Sookie to leave Bill for him, which clearly showed his intent and with no chronic posturing with Bill as if Sookie is a prize to be awarded and has no say in the matter. By the end of book 2, Sookie realizes she can trust Eric, and even tells him so, when she calls him to go to the orgy with her. TB hasn’t built that foundation; Outside of blood induced dreams, I don’t think TB Sookie and TB Eric have ever had a conversation where Bill wasn’t present.

      As to Bill, TB Bill has so far been so sanitized from the book character he is unrecognizable – too much angst and self-loathing about being a vampire. I’d rather see book Bill’s attitude of “deal with it” than hear TB Bill whine about his humanity or atonement one more time. The only thing TB has managed to keep is Bill’s abusive nature towards Sookie although it is very toned down as witnessed by how the graveyard scene was done in S1 compared to the book.

      I think that’s the biggest problem I have with TB compared to the books. It’s so sanitized – orgies excepted. Book Bill’s anger/grief over the death of Liam, Diane, and Malcolm in book 1, and Bill’s control issue is never explored. Sookie’s fear of him and her effort to redirect his rage in the cemetary is not explored either. Sam making a conscious decision to have an affair with the Maenad was sanitized. Instead he’s tricked into having sex with her as a teen, and then tricked by Daphne. Does Sam have to be perfect too? I’m going to watch S3, but I’ve set my expectations lower.

      • March 11, 2010 at 6:17 pm

        The angst-self loathing angle does bother me since it is a 180 from the books. Remember when he explains himself after DD, he says that he didn’t even want to be involved with a human because it was “beneath him.” He definitely has a healthy dose of vampire superiority!

        Sam is a man-whore in the series…so opposite of the books. In the books, the only sexual relationship he has is with the maenad. On the show, he’s screwing anyone who’s willing! At least he won’t be the HEA on the show…how’s Sookie going to end up with someone who screwed her best friend?

        • 119 VampirePamsGirl
          March 11, 2010 at 6:30 pm

          Yeah, I don’t care too much for that whole angst-self loathing thing with Bill in the show either. If I want a vampire that hates himself, I’ve already got Edward Cullen for that, thank you very much. Lol. Bill in the books definitely is more at ease (perhaps even liking) of what he is.

          I don’t know though about Sam’s only sexual relationship in the books being with the maenad. He did seem to have that thing going on with Debbie’s cousin, Tanya I think, didn’t he? It may be that the maenad was just the only sexual relationship that Sookie knows of in the books. Though I agree that the whole thing with Tara should put a nix on any Sookie/Sam angle on the show. I also agree that show Sam is definitely a bit of a slut, lol. But when they show his cute little ass, I can’t really find it within myself to complain, lol. 😀

      • 120 Amschafe
        March 15, 2010 at 7:42 am

        Yes i agree with you completely…i wouldnt have an issue with Erics time on the show in season 2 if hed been given quality scenes, but with the exception of episodes 3,7,8, and 9 he pretty much got screwed. I was so pissed they didnt include the dialogue they had before the bullet sucking took place, when Bill was off socializing…if they had included some version of that i would have been a lot happier, but of couse nada. We already got screwed out of the orgy stuff, which of course wouldnt happen because lafayette is still alive, so they should have thrown Eric fans a bone that wasnt just a dream, but reality. And sookies reaction to the bullet sucking was laughable. In the books she didnt even really care when she found out Eric tricked her, and in fact Bill wasnt even that mad either. Its just riculous how they portrayed their reactions, as if Eric is this big bad monster out to ruin their “perfect” relationship. LOL.

    • 121 VampirePamsGirl
      March 11, 2010 at 5:25 pm

      In reference to Eric having a larger role in the show than in the books, I have to agree that for comparing the first book and the first season, that may hold some truth. But my problem (and I’ve noticed quite a few other people that feel this way too) was the second season. In particular, the last part of the second season. Read the last part of LDID and then watch the last part of the second season. Every time I do that I just get a little more pissed off. Of course though, I also am much different than you in that I do want the show to follow the books. It’s okay if it’s not exactly the same, but I definitely am of the mindset that they should at least stay mostly true to the source material. Those last three episodes failed in that regard, for me.

  14. 122 Mia
    March 11, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    I’m glad Claudine will be depicted; I’m not excited at it being a “golden vision” though. It’s too fanfic for me when there are portents and visions and mysterious warnings. Of course I hate Sookie’s glow hands too.

    • 123 MASpencer
      March 11, 2010 at 4:19 pm

      I’m totally with you on that.

    • 124 KittyKat
      March 11, 2010 at 5:18 pm

      I think it’s a way to visually tell people that never read the books that”there’s indeed something very different about this girl”.

      • 125 Janofarc
        March 12, 2010 at 2:03 pm

        yep yep, there are a lot of people who follow a show based on what they see, they don’t pay a great amount of attention to dialogue and interpret the storlines from actions and body language…

      • 126 Gella
        March 12, 2010 at 10:59 pm

        As if Sophie-Anne saying that Sookie isn’t entirely human wasn’t enough to state the obvious. The glowing hands are ridiculous.

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