Who’s the Rat?

Time for a poll….simply because my brain is exploding with the possibilities!

According to Eric, we have a rat in the house. Someone tipped Victor off about the Fae war. And that someone gave him enough information that he ended up sitting in Fangtasia the night all hell broke loose, with his posse and his silver chains, just waiting for a phone call.

Who was it?

Vote in the poll and don’t forget to leave your conspiracy theory in the comments.

123 Responses to “Who’s the Rat?”

  1. 1 Barbara
    April 9, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    I think Clancy help set things up in regards to “ratting” them out …. but perhaps didn’t expect to be called into actual battle, much less die – that put a crimp in his plans LOL. So, I voted for him.

    Claude would have been a suspect if Claudine had already died, but that didn’t happen yet as she only died as a result of trying to save Sookie from Thing One and Thing Two, so he didn’t really have a motive at that point.

    Bill, Quinn, and Alcide all like/love Sookie in their own way – none of which I think is capable of hurting her, or allowing her to be hurt, … at least to that extreme.

    Mr. Catalides – I don’t think he’s involved either. He’s pretty neutral in the supernatural world – it’s why he’s everyone’s lawyer! Plus, I think he and his niece like Sookie and do not want to see her hurt.

    Pam – that would be a jaw-dropper for all if she suddenly turned on her Maker, Master, and Friend like that. I think a lot of fans would explode in anger at their favorite frosty Vamp doing a complete 180 like that.

    Dermott – Hmmmmmm …. not really sure about him. A possibility, but am on the fence about him.

  2. 2 skadi
    April 9, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    I voted for Clancy, but part of me thinks maybe that’s just too obvious and it might be someone else. As lame as I find Bill, I just don’t think he’d do it. I wonder about Quinn though, if he’d do something to try and get Eric into trouble without thinking of the consequences for Sookie.

    I think I’d be heartbroken if it was Pam. But I don’t think she’d do it.

    • April 9, 2010 at 4:44 pm

      I agree with skadi that Quinn *could* be a possibility, but only in the sense that maybe he spilled the beans about her being part-Fae. I thought Quinn was out of the loop as far as there being a Fae War. Not sure how he would have known about that. I can’t believe it of Bill or Alcide. Both are selfish and flawed, but I can’t picture this. I agree with Barbara about Mr. Catalides. Pam? Absolutely not. Out of the question. Not even a possibility. She loves Eric–and even Sookie, too, in her way. And she knows enough about vamp politics to know *exactly* what would happen to both of them. I see no benefit to her that would outweigh the cons. Claude? I don’t think so; I don’t know what his motivation would be. Dermott of course is a possibility, and I was tempted to pick him…but ultimately it seemed like Clancy was the best fit. And the fact that he’s dead? That doesn’t concern me. He was just the rat…not the mob boss.

      • 4 Stef
        April 9, 2010 at 11:44 pm

        I voted for Quinn myself. He, after all, was a part of the “takeover” by FDC and Victor. It is highly likely he could have been forced to spy on Sookie. Also, after the fighting scene between Eric and Quinn @ Sookie’s house, jealousy could’ve overwhelmed Quinn, making him more apt to turn on Sookie. While I do believe Quinn loves her, it’s hard for me to believe that he would be completely selfless and risk his hide for Sookie if forced to spill the beans. I can’t wait for a Viking smackdown if Eric does find out that Quinn is behind all of this (well, there will be a smackdown regardless b/w these two anyways). 🙂

  3. 5 sunnynala
    April 9, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    I hope it’s Bill. Even though I don’t know Book Bill what I do know of him makes me sick.

  4. 6 Holby
    April 9, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    Okay, I have once already blamed Clancy. But now I am also considering Sam. He is one sneeeeeaaakkky bastard. To support my claim, think about when Hallow showed up at Merlotte’s and he asked Sookie if she wanted to take off to go home.
    1. He must have already known about Eric’s being there.
    2. He had already made arrangements for the Shreveport pack to be at Bill’s and just omitted saying anything to Sookie.
    3. He is clearly upset when he smells Eric on her the night before she is taken and is equally distraught about the “marriage.”
    4. He has a pretty comprehensive knowledge of FDC for someone who is so “NOT” into supe (and specifically Vamp) politics.
    5. He has stated more than once that he wishes he could “pry Eric off of” Sookie.
    6. He knows about Niall’s relationship to Sookie, as he was introduced as “my great-grandfather” to Sam in the parking lot of Merlotte’s.
    7. And…”he seems to hear everything.”

    I will say that he probably did NOT think about N and L capturing and torturing Sookie, but his silent, but grim face when he visited Sookie during her recovery at the end of DAG….maybe more than concern???? Perhaps a level of guilt?????

    I just think that here is an opportunity for a huge surprise for CH. Sam has never been overly aggressive in pursuing Sookie, has been on the fringes of every major supe issue that Sookie has encountered and seems just too good to be true in accepting his ancillary role in Sookie’s life. I think there is a great deal of potential for a jaw-dropping reveal and betrayal!

    • 7 arakha
      April 9, 2010 at 4:33 pm

      Wow, that is one person I would never even have thought of. Sookie’s best friend, loyal and steadfast Sam? 😦

      That would be just as shocking and just as bad as Pam betraying Eric. I hope neither of them did it.

    • 8 MASpencer
      April 9, 2010 at 4:37 pm

      Hmmm… inneresting.

    • 9 Gigi
      April 9, 2010 at 5:20 pm

      Regarding Sam, I wrote yesterday somewhere here that based on the Jungian theory, the pure shape-shifters in literature are commonly related to the “Trickster” archetype.

      In the Mitology the Trickster deity breaks the rules of the gods or nature, sometimes maliciously. In later folklore, the trickster is incarnated as a clever, mischievous man or creature, who tries to survive the dangers and challenges of the world using trickery and deceit as a defense.

      Remember the Tickster never is what he seems to be…

      • 10 Holby
        April 9, 2010 at 5:33 pm

        Yup, Gigi…and I have also said before that there is something “more” about Sam. He knows so much about the supes, but it took him until LDID to “know there was so much out there.” His only clearly identified relationship is with a maenad (aside from what seemed to be an entirely uncosummated flirtation with Tanya). And we have had no other information about “true” shapeshifters EXCEPT from Sam himself. Everyone else has one form.

        Like I said…too good to be true?????

        And as far as his family goes…no one has met them, Sookie still has called him on cell only. He invited her to his brother’s wedding, but, oh gosh…that might get cancelled now. Isn’t it a bit weird that in 5 years no one from his family has come on over to check out his business???

        Sam just doesn’t add up, in my opinion!

    • April 9, 2010 at 6:12 pm

      I am in love with you. Anything to knock Sam down, is brilliant. This is gold. I hope to GOD it’s true.

    • 12 Sonia
      April 12, 2010 at 9:25 pm

      Wow. I like it. That would actually give E/S ‘shippers great relief since Sam is often thought of as Eric’s only real competition.

    • 13 MAP
      April 14, 2010 at 1:24 am

      Okay while I don’t think the rat is Sam… maybe it could be…

      I am rereading all the books (audio) again and noticed the part when Sam “knows” Sookie is in his head and keeps her out (DUD). If I remember corectly the only other charater to do something like this was Hallow (DTTW)… hmmm…

      So, perhaps he is some kind of supe wizard shifter…

      Or on another train of thought… every other “shifter” is linked to a specific animal. Sam presents himself as a “true shifter”. I can’t remember but could Preston shift into any animal the same way… aka like a “true shifter” or was he Were only? So, both of Sam’s parents would be “true shifters” right – so does anybody remember what he said his mom shifted into? Was it ever stated?

      Could Sam really be Fae? Explains why he hates vampires & while Niall appreared to him in front of Sookie. However, this only works if he too can mask his scent from vampires and has the same talent as Preston. Fairy godfather… maybe Sookie has lots of watchers…

      Even further out there… could Sam be Preston…can he shift into another person vs just an animal? He would know the story about Eric & Sookie.

      Do we even know for sure his mother was a were and shot? We only have his word for it after all…maybe that phone call was something else – it is always fun to speculate 🙂

      • April 14, 2010 at 2:20 am

        But Preston was a fairy – who disguised himself as a were. Not the other way around 😉

        But you have a point on the keeping Sookie out of his head thing. That always struck me as odd. I really, really do believe that there is something big coming with Sam. I don’t have a clue what, but I just feel in my gut that there is.

        • 15 MAP
          April 14, 2010 at 3:36 am

          Right and I knew that… and I didn’t state that muddy thought clear enough…maybe still won’t

          Was thinking more along the lines of…if Sam was really Fae he could have the same talent as Preston (especially if Preston could pose as any type of shifter – like a “true shifter”)… and then taking that thought 1 step further – maybe there is no Preston – just Sam (posing/shifting as Preston for the gift)… probably way too creepy… however it wouldn’t be the first he’s woken up in Sookie’s bed… just a thought and lots of gaping holes in the theory – but it might trigger someone else on another path…a more correct one (or not)

          Need to reread (listen to) the story again for the final discussion between the actor Were & Preston… to see how it is worded… and see if there is any ambiguity to allow for another scenario other that what appears to be written at first glance…

          Besides all that I certainly agree with you… Sam is more than what he seems…

          And, I think there is something up with the “rare true shifter” bit especially since he indicates in early books that he not well connected with the shifter community… but he is very connected with just about any “supe” group in later books… like he’s really part of maybe another supe group (or not). So how did THAT really happen?

          Have to pay closer attention as to how Sookie describes his brain to see if sounds like any other supes… (eg weres I think she said were red & snarly). Or if it is never really described… aka crafty Charlaine…

          Of course Eric & Bill have always called him “shifter”… could they be fooled? And Quinn called him a dog… so probably not… however why would Quinn call him a “dog” when Sam can change into any animal including a tiger just like Quinn if he wanted too… hmmm…

          Gotta love speculation… bring it on…

          • 16 jagalskarfangs
            April 14, 2010 at 6:12 pm

            MAP, on one of the other pages here I put forth the idea that Sam is something much more than he lets on. Welcome to my conspiracy!!! LOL

          • 17 Holby
            April 14, 2010 at 6:16 pm

            And I keep thinking that there is some reason that CH constantly points out the fact that Sam’s hair is “like a golden halo around his head.” (Sometimes it is a red halo, but still, the word halo is associated with Sam’s head more times than I care to count!

      • 18 walgigi
        April 14, 2010 at 6:44 am

        [Could Sam really be Fae? Explains why he hates vampires & while Niall appreared to him in front of Sookie. However, this only works if he too can mask his scent from vampires and has the same talent as Preston.]

        Whatever he is, I don’t think he’s a “pure” fae… but he could be a half breed like Sookie’s father and that could explain why he can change and does not have the fae scent. It also could explain why he was hanging with the manead, because even when a maenad is not the same thing as a fairy, they are usually connected in literature (as in Shakespeare’s Midsummer Night’s Dream) because writers use the greek myths and theather maenads and/or nymphs as a base to develop their stories about fairies. Also, they both share the characteristic of represent elemental spirits of nature and the worship of it.

  5. 19 Gigi
    April 9, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    You forgot to add Jason to the list.

    • 20 Gigi
      April 9, 2010 at 4:29 pm

      And Sam (as Holby said). LOL

      • 21 Gigi
        April 9, 2010 at 4:54 pm

        I don’t think it was Clancy because he’s already dead and there will be no thrill to discover it if he will not be there. Although Sam is ranking high between my suspects because he is always lurking the Supes Website (lmao) and he can send an IM to Victor, he doesn’t knew the precise moment she was kidnapped unless he was a mosquito on Sookie’s porch when it happened… lol (could be, it happened in TB), but I don’t think he would want to risk Sookie’s life. Alcide could knew about it from Tray, but somehow it’s difficult to think that he could risk Sookies life,

        m… the rat is inside Fagntasia or obtains information at first hand by being somehow close to Sookie. There’s no way to know this kind of information by other means… unless there’s another telepath working for Victor who got the information reading Sookie’s thoughts from distance…

        I mean, we have to think of ALL possibilities…

        • 22 Tracey
          April 10, 2010 at 5:18 am

          sookie wld have known if someone was inside her head. i think it was strange pam was allowed to make a phone call n wasnt chained

    • 23 MASpencer
      April 9, 2010 at 4:36 pm

      Hey-o! Didn’t even think about him. Tsk, tsk.

    • April 9, 2010 at 4:42 pm

      Jason and Sam are possibilities.. but I had to draw a line somewhere. And there is an “other” option 🙂

      • 25 Gigi
        April 9, 2010 at 4:56 pm

        nah, Jason isn’t. I thought we were looking for traitors, didn’t notice it was just for the rat lol.

  6. 26 MASpencer
    April 9, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    So I haven’t voted yet, because I don’t have any solid theories. But, I thought this was worth a mention. From CH herself, in response to a poster’s question:

    “darlastone, you were asking a couple of days ago about the consequences to Quinn of his visit to Sookie?

    They were severe. But Sookie doesn’t know about them, so I’m not going to detail them here.

    Charlaine Harris”

    I remember being very interested in learning more about this, especially since, evidently, Quinn is slated to be featured in a novella set post-DITF, which (from what I understand) WILL have an impact on the events of the series as a whole. This isn’t exactly unprecedented– e.g. ‘One Word Answer’– but I thought CH decided that she wouldn’t be doing that again, in order to avoid reader confusion. And yet, she apparently changed her mind about that.

    Of course, some of the more presumptuous posters took this tidbit to mean that Eric opened up a can of whoop ass on him, or worse. Could be. But to say that the “consequences” were “severe” doesn’t necessarily connote punishment… or even that those consequences were suffered by Quinn at all.

    I just know that, while reading DAG, Quinn’s visit seemed like a pretty random interlude. But maybe CH had a deeper purpose for including it. And maybe it ties into this mess, somehow.

    • 27 MASpencer
      April 9, 2010 at 4:39 pm

      Oh. CH did say “consequences TO Quinn”… so… make of that what you will, I suppose. It’s still a little too vague for my liking.

  7. 28 Sarah
    April 9, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    What about Felicia?
    I mean it´s funny, she got a lot of “book time” till now although she isn´t part of an important storyline and we never learned why she really left Arkansas.
    This is only a theory I wouldn´t also exclude Quinn (he acts and then he starts thinking), Alcide (Ms Harris pointed out that he would to something evil)or Bill (it´s Beel no further explanation). Jason maybe, but out of dullness not in order to harm Sookie. Clancy is a possibility, he could be killed intentionally to put the confident away..but this isn´t really the best possible storyline it´s too obvious in my opinion.
    And I also really hope that Pam has nothing to do with this. Her only motivation could be that she out of her fierce loyality to her maker decided to get rid of Sookie who weakens Eric´s position and puts him into danger.

  8. 31 Barbara
    April 9, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    I somehow feel we are back to square one – having no clue! *sighs*

    Clancy … Sam … Felicia … Quinn … Alcide …
    Somehow I feel like we’re playing Russian roulette here. Vamp, Shifter, Vamp, Tiger, Were.

  9. 32 Serena
    April 9, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    The Sam theory is interesting, but I’ve always seen Sam as the quintessential good guy and I think it would be out of character for him to divert from the silent sufferer to the action man, even if it was by text message.. lol, but i don’t know, maybe.

    IMO, I think Alcide has the most motive. Ever since he met Sookie his life has turned to crap. His girlfriend gets whacked, his father gets beaten in a death match, and his second girlfriend gets slaughtered. At least two of these deaths he holds Sookie accountable, or at least feels resentment towards her for failing him in the case of his father. Alcide of course can’t act directly against Sookie because of her “friend of pack” status, but there is nothing stopping him from hurting or conspiring against Eric. (and indirectly hurting Sookie).

    And in my opinion, I think he is partly involved in the Shakespearian ending. Like the dork that I am, once I heard CH talk about the Shakespearian ending, I ran to my nearest Shakespeare anthology. So from the intro of that book, it said that all Shakespeare’s tragedies had common themes, 1.) reciprocal reprisals, a chain of reactions by several parties as in you kill my father, i kill you, you kill me, ect. 2.) revenge, which is the main motive of the reciprocal reprisals and the reason to start the chain of reactions in the first place, 3.) The pause, which is basically what Hamlet is all about, the plotting and planning and deliberating. Hamlet is like Shakespeare’ longest play, so yes there is a bunch of death in the end, but that isn’t the meat of story.

    I know this seems a little off base as regard to the rat, but what was the situation of Victor showing up, if not a pause, a delaying of Eric? I think Alcide wants revenge against Sookie, for many reasons, even if he tells Sookie he doesn’t blame her. I mean, the man has to blame magic for loving Debbie Pelt, because he feels too ashamed to actually have been in love with her. I don’t think he would be honest with Sookie about how he feels towards her and the circumstances surrounding the two. He may say he forgives her, but does he?

    As why he would chose now to start an alliance with Victor and FDC, I don’t know. But I think when Sookie told him she needed his help, he started to act on his mixed up feelings for her. I think the boy is definitely bad juju. Afterall, didn’t CH recently say that Alcide is a lot deeper and darker than she first knew?

    • 33 Holby
      April 9, 2010 at 5:58 pm

      I’m open to all evil options, Serena. And you make really good points for Alcide. Interestingly enough, in DAG, Sookie calls Eric to ask for protection, and gets a text from Alcide saying, “Trouble your way, help is coming.” Who asked him to provide help? AND how was he able to tell Tray the whole story???? As far as we know, Alcide has no knowledge of Sookie’s fae heritage, but Tray definitely says it would have been better to have heard the story from Sookie instead of from Alcide. Eric could not have filled him in, because Victor was at Fangtasia. Hmmmm…Victor was already in town, how convenient if Alcide wanted to get hold of him to share some info.

      Also, Alcide was decidedly uncomfortable in front of Sookie (who had just saved his whole pack from Patricia) when he ran into her at the bank. (And why would he be banking in BFE Bon Temps if he has businesses in Shreveport and Jackson????)

      • 34 Holby
        April 9, 2010 at 6:00 pm

        I’m sorry, he says, “Trouble your way? We OWE you.” Maybe he figures he owes her for more personal issues than saving the pack…like Serena said, for Debbie and his dad!

        • 35 arakha
          April 9, 2010 at 6:15 pm

          I thought Sookie contacted Eric AND Alcide/ Were pack for help? Maybe I’m not remembering correctly, it’s been a while since I read DaG.

        • 36 Serena
          April 9, 2010 at 6:15 pm

          Afterall, CH said that book 10 is about ‘family’ in general, not necessarily Sookie’s and Eric’s.

      • 37 Serena
        April 9, 2010 at 6:10 pm

        Does he text her? I couldn’t remember how that went down, I recently had to loan out my copy of DAG to my friends who couldn’t have waited 5 days for the paperback.. but good and thanks,that supports my argument even more. lol.

      • 38 Gigi
        April 9, 2010 at 10:13 pm

        [Also, Alcide was decidedly uncomfortable in front of Sookie (who had just saved his whole pack from Patricia) when he ran into her at the bank.]

        Of course he must have felt unconfortable. Especially after not seeing her since the Were War and not knowing that Sam and Claudine made Sookie left the place before they begin with the packmaster ascencion ceremony ritual… where he probably had to finish fucking, I mean, breeding (lol) another were woman in front of everyone.

    • 39 Gigi
      April 9, 2010 at 6:08 pm

      No, I don’t think Alcide wants revenge against Sookie, because he still has feelings for her and never had a chance with her before. I think Alcide devious act might be something he will do against Eric, something that could threaten his life in order to get rid of him.

      • 40 Sarah
        April 9, 2010 at 7:11 pm

        There´s this old saying that the line between love and hate is thinn.
        The early books have shown that Alcide isn´t a rational but a deceitful person.
        (1) He can´t accept that he loved Debbie Pelt and was unable to look behind her mask. He had to blame magic.
        (2) He blamed Sookie for his father´s death, which is really absurd because he made her watch and judge the contest.
        (3) He tricked her into attending the funeral of the colonel and he blackmailed her into attending the contest.
        (4) After his girlfriend Maria-Star died he was jealous and angry because Sookie went to restaurant with Eric. This was the moment in which Alcide died for me.
        I hate to state this because I really liked him in the beginning which didn`t happen with Beel or Quinn “the babe”. But Alcide developed in a very negative kind of way. He definitly craves Sookie, maybe he even loves her but on the other hand he fears her and her powers and holds her responsible for his own faults or some strokes of fate.
        Perhaps he didn´t want her to be killed and his “only” intention was to seperate the couple and to teach Sookie a lesson?

        • 41 Gigi
          April 9, 2010 at 7:38 pm

          Nope, I made a very deep analysis of Alcide, but very few people had the opportunity to read it. Also answer some of these perceptions before at other post here. But IMO, he will never do anything to threaten Sookie’s life, though I really think he will want to get even from Eric and like Quinn, also will want Eric to die… because CH is opening the way to establish Eric as the only Sookie’s HEA.

      • 46 Stef
        April 10, 2010 at 3:56 am

        Poor Eric…everyone always wants a piece of him (in the dead-dead sense)!

  10. 47 VikingLover
    April 9, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    I don’t think it’s Pam for 2 reasons: 1) She loves Eric too much and would never betray him 2) the Podcast woman would have had an entirely different reaction to this book. Seriously, I would die a thousand deaths if Pam was the culprit! I don’t think it’s going to be Bill or Quinn either.

    I think it’s going to be the obvious answer – Dermott. He’s the only one that would have had prior knowledge of what the fae were up to and the most to gain from Sookie’s death. Simply because of the war. Although I’m really liking what Serena said about Alcide.

  11. 48 Sibyl_Vane
    April 9, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    I am not sure that the Alcide quote from CH about him being darker than she knew doesn’t have something to do with the fact that Deddie Pelt’s body is supposed to be discovered in this book. If anything made him crack it would be that. So, I’m not sure he was pushed far enough before the fae war to want revenge on Sookie.

    In regards to the Shakespeare references, I’m thinking more along the lines of MacBeth. Victor is power hungry and that might play into things. It’s also about fate- something that we all love to speculate on in regards to E&S. If she did go Hamlet style it would be a bit too early with 3 books remaining in the series- there would be too many new characters to introduce and conclude by the end of the series.

  12. 49 Jo
    April 9, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    well, if we consider all possibilities, such as Amelia? I always thought it strange move to Bon Temps to live with Sookie, and she knew Hadley, perhaps involved in some way with the Vamps, and right now its gone for fear of being discovered? well just an idea, do not even believe that she was

    • 50 Sibyl_Vane
      April 9, 2010 at 7:20 pm

      Jo, I think Sookie would have picked something up if it was Amelia- she was a pretty strong broadcaster and in all that time living together something would have slipped. Plus, with Tray involved I’m not sure she would have wantd anything like that to go down.

  13. 51 Dee
    April 9, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    I keep thinking of Niall for some reason. It would have to be somebody who not only knew she was fae but also knew ahead of time that Lochlan and Neave were going to come after her and that’s how Victor knew to be at Fangtasia at that exact moment. Even if somebody else told Victor that Sookie was Fae, doesn’t mean that they would know Sookie would be captured and I don’t see how some would’ve known that. It has to be somebody who knew what Breandan was planning and knew when to tell Victor to be there. Another thing that makes me thing of him is the conversation Lochlan and Neave had when Sookie first woke up in the house they kept her. They said they were expecting Breandan to call any moment now bc he would have heard from back from Niall and expecting him to agree to close the port since they had Sookie. So going by that it does seem like Breandan made sure that Niall knew they captured Sookie and if Niall wanted her back he was to contact Breandan. But that call never came and I don’t understand why not. Niall and Bill lost precious time trying to find where they kept her when he could’ve just made the call to release her and agree to closing the port, which he did anyways later on.

    Niall is also the only one who gained something. He became the only living Prince now in the fae world. It never made sense that he would close the port after all they just went through. I do remember his reason for doing so but still leaves you questioning his decision. I also find it odd that he told Sookie to stay away from Dermot no matter what but in the book we don’t see Dermot do anything wrong,infact, he went to Jason and warned him about Mel. He never tried to go after Sookie and hurt her but we do know he tried to know her through Amelia and Tray. For a fae that’s a very non-aggressive way to go about hurting somebody, why would he have to be so nice at first if his intentions were to hurt Sookie as Niall suggests. Seems like maybe he just wanted to get to know her but then again i can be wrong about that part.

    With the other suspects I keep finding one loose end but with Niall it works out in my head. With Quinn, yes he can tell Victor about Sookie but how would he know when Victor should be at Fangtasia, same with sam and a few others. Not only does it have to be somebody who knew of Sookie’s heritage but somebody who knew when things would go down.

    • 52 Gigi
      April 9, 2010 at 10:24 pm

      You have very good arguments for thinking of Niall. But IMO, CH purpose with Niall’s character was to give Sookie a loving father figure to helps her to heal the lack of a father in her life and all her traumas and issues with males figures (though he isn’t human and his way to show love isn’t conventional). If she really makes Niall “the rat”, it will simply kill Sookie, because she will never recovers from it.

  14. 53 Eowyn
    April 9, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Alcide was the first name that came to my head..

    For the reasons others have stated. Along with being deeper and darker, he supposedly does something very bad in this book. My first thought was he tells the popo who killed Debbie, and gets Sook’s and Eric in trouble..now I think he’s the rat..

    I don’t believe he ever got over Debbie even though he objured her and moved on to Marie.

  15. 54 MollyS
    April 9, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    I voted for Quinn because he seems to have the most to gain from getting Eric in trouble with his boss. Perhaps he was hoping Victor would occupy Eric so he could sneak back over to Sookie’s and beg for forgiveness. I don’t think he understands the depth of the emotional connection that Eric and Sookie have.

    But one other possiblity that lingers in the back of my mind is Bobby, Eric’s day man. The books repeatedly say that he doesn’t like Sookie, which Eric doesn’t seem to realize until Sookie tells him in DAG, and even then he seems to think that telling Bobby to be nice and making him grovel to Sookie will fix the problem. I think we can assume that Bobby is privy to a lot of information, and perhaps he thought a well-placed hint or two to Eric’s higher-ups would be enough to get rid of Sookie and maybe benefit him personally somehow. And, if we continue with the Hamlet connection, he would be equivalent to Polonius, a scheming rat who presumably helps overthrow one leader and then serves a corrupt king–until he hides in the wrong place while spying and gets himself killed, of course.

    SVB–I don’t post often, but read your blog all the time and really enjoy it. Your sense of humor and insight into the books and TB are amazing. Thanks for providing a place for us to discuss and share!

    • 55 Gigi
      April 9, 2010 at 9:11 pm

      [But one other possiblity that lingers in the back of my mind is Bobby, Eric’s day man.]

      Excellent point MollyS!

      • 56 lkc
        April 9, 2010 at 9:53 pm

        Ahhhh Bobby-That is a really good point. He hates Sookie, he’s probably around enough that he could ease drop and find out anything he wants to know. He’s slimy enough that I can easily see him being bought out by VM.

        But I want it to be Bill, evil of me, but I am so sick of St. Bill and all those who think he is a hero. I would love to see him, as Aaine said, metaphorically killed! No chance of spinning any crazy stories of how it’s not his fault.

    • 58 Tracey
      April 10, 2010 at 5:26 am

      if eric died i doubt Victor wld let quinn be wit sookie. always an obstacle.

  16. 59 lagata181
    April 9, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    My vote is for Dermot, based on the principle that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The vamps and the fae have good reason to be wary of each other, but Dermot – if he’s as bad as Niall says he is – would have both motive and opportunity to tip Victor off about the plan to abduct Sookie, and both Dermot and Victor would stand to gain if Sookie were taken out. On Dermot’s end, Sookie’s abduction would draw Niall out into the open; from Victor’s end, keeping Eric from going to Sookie’s aid would make a powerful ally out of Dermot and his crew, and it would also carry the strong possibility of goading Eric into committing a punishable offense against the De Castro regime.

    I am intrigued, however, by Dee’s recent post about Niall possibly being the rat. As Dee points, out, it is rather odd that Dermot was being so evasive when he could have just attacked Sookie straight out at any point. Is it possible that Niall has been feeding Sookie lies about Dermot and his evil ways? And if so, then can we really trust Niall in any capacity?

    In my heart of hearts, I don’t believe that Niall is the rat here, but he could still have some ‘splaining to do in terms of full disclosure of his own biases and agendas. But I hope not – I like Niall and I want for Sookie to have a blood relative she can count on – in theory if not practice – now that Gran is gone.

    Quinn is the only other likely possibility I see in the lineup, although if it were him, my guess would be that his involvement would have been accidental and involuntary. He’s one pissed off tiger these days, but I don’t see it being in his character to deliberately hurt Sookie. And he does know that hurting Eric would hurt Sookie, so I don’t see that as being a good loophole.

    If Pam was the rat, black will be white, up will be down, and I swear my head will explode upon reading the words.

    • 60 MASpencer
      April 9, 2010 at 9:20 pm

      “…the enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

      Is it horrible that I can’t hear that without thinking about Alien vs. Predator?

      Anyway, I agree. 😉

      • 61 Gigi
        April 9, 2010 at 9:39 pm

        [Is it horrible that I can’t hear that without thinking about Alien vs. Predator?]


    • 62 Dee
      April 9, 2010 at 9:50 pm

      That’s why I would like for Niall not to be the rat bc of how hurt Sookie would be but don’t know why I don’t trust him. For some reason I never warmed up to him in the books, no real specific reason why either so who knows where my feelings come from haha.

      I also really hope it is NOT Pam!!! Yes, it would be shocking and have the whole element of surprise but don’t think that an author should throw something in like that for JUST the purpose of surprising the reader. I don’t see any reason for her to do this at all, she doesn’t object to Sookie being in Eric’s life. Even when Sookie arrived at fangtasia and was able to hand Eric the package with the knife inside, Pam said it was for the best. Plus Pam did say that for the first time ever she has something to tease Eric about(his feelings for Sookie) why would she give that up when she enjoys it so much haha.

  17. 63 VikingLover
    April 9, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    I would find it hard to believe if it was Niall considering the way CH used his character. If that were the case, it would negate all the trusting connection between him and Eric and the “blessing” he gave Sookie at the end of DAG. I just don’t think CH would do that. BL’s would have a field day with that one.

    • 64 Dee
      April 9, 2010 at 10:02 pm

      Very true!!! and I would hate for BL’s to have another excuse to use against Eric.

      I think i have to look for other clues to figure out who is the rat lol

      I have a couple of other people in mind but it’s hard to figure out how these ppl would have contact with both someone in the fae world and Victor.

      Watch it be somebody nobody has mentioned yet.

      • 65 VikingLover
        April 9, 2010 at 10:06 pm

        It probably is Bubba! Or maybe the guy Amelia turned into the cat! LMAO!

        • 66 Dee
          April 9, 2010 at 10:17 pm

          That would be an interesting twist lol

          I also thought of Breandan going to somebody who hates Sookie, and have that person inform Victor of their plans. Maybe if they have been watching Sookie or found things out then it would be easy to find an enemy. So maybe Sandra Pelt or even Quinn’s sister since she hated what Sookie did to him.

          Hopefully it will be revealed in DITF

  18. 67 sunnynala
    April 9, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    Can someone answer a couple of questions about the books? TIA

    1) Do you think CH is capable of enraging her Bill fans by making him the rat?

    2)What was the purpose of detaining Eric with silver? Was it to keep him from saving Sookie in the Fae war so that she died?

    —-if so, who most wants Sookie dead?
    —-is it possible Bill wants her dead? Sort of “if I can’t have her”

    3) Bill saved Sookie, right? Because Eric called him? Well, wasn’t that conveeeeenient?? Logically, Eric WOULD call Bill if he were detained and couldn’t get to Sookie, right?. But anyhow, now Bill “looks like a hero to Sookie”.

    (or do I totally have all of this bass ackwards?)

    • 68 Dee
      April 10, 2010 at 12:28 am

      1) Anything is possible, although someone who read the book and gave a review said that something sweet happens with Bill. It has to do with his family I think. But again you never know

      2) yes they didn’t want Eric to save Sookie. Victor told him that he didn’t want Eric to get involved in the fae war just bc of his human lover, but again this is what Victor told Eric but im sure there’s more to it.
      -well she has made a few enemies, one that really went after her was Sandra Pelt. Then you have some people who blame Sookie for how some things turned out, which is why Alcide is a possible rat.
      -No I don’t think Bill wants her

      3)no Bill called Eric actually. What happened was Sookie went to check on Tray and realized something was up. She wanted someone to come help her check out Tray’s house. She decided to call Bill bc she said he would get there quicker than Eric could since Tray lived just a few mins away. They drove off after they checked tray’s house but in their own cars and sookie was ahead. That’s when they captured her, Bill called Eric immediately bc there is no way Bill could have found Sookie through the port alone and he most likely would have died and so would have Sookie since he couldn’t help her on his own. Eric called Niall to tell him what happened and Niall met up with Bill and they went to search for Sookie. As soon as Eric got off the phone, 3 of Victor’s men chained up Eric.

    • April 10, 2010 at 2:02 am

      1) Do you think CH is capable of enraging her Bill fans by making him the rat?

      Oh yes. Absolutely I do. A few reasons: the majority of book readers are rooting for Eric anyway and I don’t say that because I’m obviously biased. They do. You only have to watch footage of her book signings to see this, and she knows it too. She wanted to kill Bill in DAG and was either talked out of it, or changed her mind depending on who you believe. So making him the rat? Nothing, in comparison to what she wanted to do with him. Oh I have heaps of reasons why she would do this but I won’t bore you.

      2)What was the purpose of detaining Eric with silver? Was it to keep him from saving Sookie in the Fae war so that she died?

      —-if so, who most wants Sookie dead?
      —-is it possible Bill wants her dead? Sort of “if I can’t have her”

      As far as we know (and we only have Eric’s account thusfar) the purpose was simply that Eric was prepared to take his vampires to war with the fae to get Sookie back, and Victor found this quite offensive and intervened – completely ignoring the fact that Sookie was under the King’s formal protection – to keep Eric away. I’m not sure the intention was to see Sookie die. I think Victor viewed Sookie as collateral damage. She was expendable, to him. I think there is a hell of a lot more that we are to find out about the motives for all of this drama. Eric thinks it’s all about Sookie and Victor’s over inflatated political aspirations. But Eric’s judgement has not been so great in the last couple of books. I’m thinking he’s not seeing the full picture yet.

      Who wants her dead? There’s a list of suspects. I don’t think Bill wants her dead in that way. I think he would happily see ERIC dead. But not Sookie. If Bill is the rat he’s done something stupid and ill thought out that has put her in danger. I can’t get past the fact that he goes way back with Victor, and we still don’t know why.

      3) Bill saved Sookie, right? Because Eric called him? Well, wasn’t that conveeeeenient?? Logically, Eric WOULD call Bill if he were detained and couldn’t get to Sookie, right?. But anyhow, now Bill “looks like a hero to Sookie”.

      This has already been explained above but just to add – I think one of the things BB’s are so enraged about is that Bill DID look like a hero to Sookie. He showed up, Eric didn’t. That was all we knew until this week. Now that Eric’s explanation is out there, and Sookie accepts it and (most) readers accept it, the BB’s no longer have this to belt Eric with. Bill now looks like the guy who was there in place of someone who simply couldn’t be. Which is how most of us saw things all along.

  19. 70 Dan
    April 10, 2010 at 12:01 am

    Not Clancy. Yes he hated Sookie, but he was loyal to Eric and he fought and died. If he had tipped off the other side, then wouldn’t he have double crossed Eric during the fight?

    Darkhorse candidate — Amelia’s dad, Mr. Carmichael. He knows more than he lets on and I am sure he is sucking up to Victor.

    • 71 VikingLover
      April 10, 2010 at 12:34 am

      For some reason I don’t think it was Clancy either. I don’t think he agreed with Eric’s choice but I think he was still loyal to Eric. I don’t know, for some reason I think he had honor. He even followed protocol by asking Eric to formerly release him so that he could serve another Master.

    • 72 Gigi
      April 10, 2010 at 12:36 am

      Excellent point, Dan! Mr. Carmichael always has had the “rat” word written in his forehead…

      • April 10, 2010 at 1:38 am

        OMG…COPE! Fark Dan, you might well be right.

        Amelia and Tray were talking to Dermott right?

        Sookie never trusted Cope as far as she could kick him and with damn good reason I always felt.

        Need to think about this one some more. I’m starting to go off the Bill idea, as much as it would make me a happy woman. It has to be someone with ties to Victor and an interest in helping him gain power (he is definitely planning a coup). And someone who has either some sort of direct link with the fae, or means of knowing about their affairs.

        Cope fits. And so does Quinn. Either or both.

        Quinn has fucked up like this too many times before. He is easily manipulated and thinks he is much smarter than he actually is. That is a dangerous combination.

        • 74 VikingLover
          April 10, 2010 at 2:21 am

          [He is easily manipulated and thinks he is much smarter than he actually is. That is a dangerous combination.]

          I don’t know why but I pictured him in those stupid genie pants with a god awful grin on his face when I read that line. It made me LOL. I really hate that guy!

    • 75 lagata181
      April 10, 2010 at 2:17 am

      Oooo…I like it. Carmichael does have the motive to suck up to the De Castro regime, but that would mean that FdC was definitely in on the plot, wouldn’t it? Because why would Carmichael suck up to a middle man like Victor behind FdC’s back, right? But did Carmichael know about the Fae connection? (I can’t remember and I’m far from home so I can’t pore over my books, meh.) And I agree that Clancy is probably not the rat, for exactly the reason you state.

    • 76 Lisa
      April 10, 2010 at 3:03 am

      Once again, I am Team Dan!!! Though I really would like for my Sam theory to be right, Cope is a good pick. Especially if the book is about family. Remember Amelia says she wishes her dad would value her, but he just uses her to fulfill his own agenda. And he’s the kind of powerhouse who could buy the information he couldn’t trick Amelia into spilling. (And I don’t think Amelia is too savvy about keeping secrets). He definitely wanted her away from BT and couldn’t have been happy about her connection to a Were (and he def would have found out about that since Tray was so public in the reveal…he’ll, Cope probably has Arlene on the payroll for info).

  20. 77 Serena
    April 10, 2010 at 12:19 am

    So I was thinking, what if its not a rat? What if its Sophie-Anne? Maybe Victor took her captive and she swore her loyalty to him. How do we know she is really dead? We never saw the body, and if I were legless vampire I would capitulate right away,… besides I always thought that killing someone as old as SA was a little cold, even for vampires. I think I also read somewhere in CH forums that no one is ever really gone, which seemed to imply the return of Niall, but what if she meant someone else too?

    I think it could be plausible. The Nevada vamps said Sigebert was dead, but he obviously wasn’t and he might have been sent after Felipe via Sophie-Anne on Victor’s orders. Thoughts?

    • 78 Dan
      April 10, 2010 at 1:05 am

      Good one. I think we have seen now that victor craves more power. He claimed Siegbert was dead. Victor/Sophie-Anne may have planned the Siegbert ambush of Eric and FDC.

      • 79 PrettyVikingChains
        April 10, 2010 at 1:49 am

        Interesting idea. I like the idea of SA still around, & I could definitely see her in league with Victor. I’m not quite sure how the fae angle would work out though. How would SA know about the attack, especially if she’s in hiding?

        That said, I have absolutely no idea who I think it is. There are a lot of good theories here, but none of them seem to make complete sense. The lists of who had the opportunity, who would be willing, & who CH would likely pin it on just don’t seem to overlap. I’m gonna need a lot more convincing/a lot more info before I could even try to call it!

      • 80 Serena
        April 10, 2010 at 1:52 am

        Yeah, where the real motive here would be to get Sookie out of the way, since she hampered his first attempt at FDC and Eric. But this might also imply a collusion with some of the bad faeries, since that wouldn’t answer how he knew there was a war going on or that she would be kidnapped.

    • 81 VikingLover
      April 10, 2010 at 2:10 am

      Great catch on Victor being the one to send Sigebert to kill FDC!! FDC, Sookie, and Eric had wondered how Sigebert had found them and now we know. It makes perfect sense! VM is a smart Mofo. Essentially FDC would have been killed at the hands of a crazed Sigebert, VM would have become the king by default, they would have killed Sigebert in the end, and no one would have been the wiser! So it seems our friend Victor had been planning to oust FDC for quite some time then.

      I’m not sure about SA though because I don’t think VM would chance keeping her alive and allowing her to fully heal – he seems very ambitious (and greedy) and I think he likes to share. It’s in his best interest to have killed her. Also, I don’t think SA would have sent Sigebert out on what could have been a suicide mission (and essentially was) since she was in such a physically vulnerable state. Andre was no longer around and neither was Wigebert (sp?) and I highly doubt she would have trusted anyone else.

      • 82 VikingLover
        April 10, 2010 at 2:12 am

        ** I don’t think he likes to share**

      • April 10, 2010 at 2:24 am

        Yeah I think it’s pretty clear now that Victor was behind the parking lot incident. I’m glad that was explained because all through DAG I was waiting for an explanation for that and it didn’t come. Things are becoming much clearer now….it’s amazing how much has come just from this one chapter. Imagine when we get our paws on the whole damn book!

  21. 85 Lisa
    April 10, 2010 at 3:12 am

    I think we are overestimating the advance knowledge Victor would have needed. He was at Fangtasia when Sookie called for protection, Eric said “the threat concerning your kin.”. If victor did have inside info about Sookie’s heritage, he wouldn’t need to be a genius to figure it out. Even a rat would not need to know about the threat of N and L to just tell Victor that the fae shit was hitting the proverbial fan and he should stir his stumps up to shreveport if he wanted to try to restrict Eric’s movement and try to push him into treasonous action. I’m just saying that trying to get Eric to lose it doesn’t equate with wanting Sookie tortured or dead.

    • 86 PrettyVikingChains
      April 10, 2010 at 4:36 am

      How would Victor know about her heritage? And how would the rat know the shit was hitting the fan? I just don’t see the fae being in league with any other supes to pass that info along. That’s what’s really holding me up. Other than the fae, how would anybody know early enough to tell Victor when to be at Fangtasia? Nothing’s making sense to me yet, other than confirming what we already knew about Victor being scum. I agree that whoever it was didn’t necessarily want Sookie hurt. But they would have had to have some serious info that I just can’t see how they got.

      • 87 Tracey
        April 10, 2010 at 5:15 am

        i disgree. victor didnt want eric to go save sookie. therefore, i think the intension was for sookie to die. i think FDC knew about it too otherwise Victor wld be punished.

  22. 88 Suzanna
    April 10, 2010 at 3:21 am

    Someone may have already said what I’m about to say–but I just got back from a six hour car drive with my annoying brother in the backseat. Therefore, I don’t have the energy to read all the preceding comments right now. But I will eventually! (I also probably don’t have the energy to be coherent but here’s my best try.)

    Anywho, I think it was Bill for one reason: he wants Sookie back. He knew about the Fae War, he’s close enough to know everything that’s going on, and he already has a reputation for working behind Eric’s back with Eric’s superiors. He could have easily called Victor and tipped him off that the Fae were probably going to make a move really soon. And then, when Eric got chained to the wall, he was put into the perfect position to save Sookie and prove how heroic he is. He could show her that he was willing to die for her and that he was a better man than Eric. He was probably really counting on Eric not showing up at all because then he would have the added bonus of pulling the “I was there for you but he wasn’t” card. Bill probably figures that Sookie since didn’t buy the “my maker/lover made me do it” excuse he gave in Living Dead in Dallas, then she won’t buy the story Eric gives her in the next book.

    And Victor gets to put Eric in a situation where he controls him and takes power away from him by CHAINING HIM TO A WALL and telling him he can’t go save the woman he loves. It’s sort of like the ultimate pissing contest. Victor gets to show Eric who is really in charge. Also, he may be hoping to estrange Sookie from Eric as well so that she won’t be under his protection anymore. And maybe–just maybe–the shock and trauma of all of this would be enough to break the blood bond, though the estrangement would be enough to do it eventually, probably. After she’s separated from Eric, Victor is free to manipulate Sookie into working exclusively for him, or maybe even outright kidnap her without having to worry about Eric ripping his throat out. So, it’s a win-win situation all around. And it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if FDC approved this plan from the start.

    Does this make sense? I hope it does…

    • April 10, 2010 at 6:02 am

      Thinking about your comments about Victor showing Eric whose boss, putting Eric in his place.

      I said further up in my comments to Sunny that I thought Victor didn’t really care whether or not Sookie lived or died.

      No no no, now I think that’s wrong (I’m changing my mind hourly here lol). Victor is obviously planning a coup, I think that much is a fairly safe bet. His most likely enemy, and nearest threat should he be successful – is Eric. The fae war provided a convenient means for Victor to hobble him – not only did he get to put Eric firmly in his place, but he also thought he might get the added bonus of REALLY sticking it to Eric with Sookie’s death. Especially if her death occurred because Eric couldn’t get to her. The fae war itself held no interest for Victor, and his crap about not wanting Eric to risk vampires over a human was a smokescreen for what he was really trying to achieve.

      EVERYONE knows that the Viking has a major weakness when it comes to the telepath. And more importantly everyone knows that if you want to bring the viking to heel….you attack the telepath. It’s certainly not the first time that’s happened (Charles Twining anyone?). Victor saw Sookie’s family dramas as a means to an end.

      How did Victor know that Sookie was under threat from the Fae? He was in Eric’s office when Eric took Sookie’s call about asking Felipe for formal protection. Eric said “the threat from your kin?” while Victor was standing right there. How much digging would Victor really have to do to find out who these threatening “kin” actually were? Not much. This is where I think Bill might come in – I don’t think maliciously, just stupidly. Or whoever…the list of those who know sookie is part fae is now pretty long.

      It really feels like CH is setting things up for a new King. And it ain’t gonna be Victor Madden.

      I realise this post was an incredible ramble but it helps me get things straight in my head to nut it out like this with you guys.

      • April 10, 2010 at 6:53 am

        OH and I also realise none of that gets us any closer to narrowing down suspects for the rat. But it helps to have a likely motive for Victor’s involvement….

      • 91 Gigi
        April 10, 2010 at 7:49 am

        [EVERYONE knows that the Viking has a major weakness when it comes to the telepath. And more importantly everyone knows that if you want to bring the viking to heel….you attack the telepath. It’s certainly not the first time that’s happened (Charles Twining anyone?). Victor saw Sookie’s family dramas as a means to an end.]

        The night Victor went to Sookie’s house to ask Eric to surrender, he was a witness when Sookie tried to use the cell phone and Eric dashed it against the wall, too. And…:

        [“There’s no one you can call who would help you in this situation,” Victor Madden said complacently. But then he looked a little less pleased with himself, as if he was having second thoughts. “Unless there is something I don’t know about you,” he added.
        “There is much you don’t know about Sookie,” Bill said. It was the first time he’d spoken since Madden had entered. “Know this: I will die for her. If you harm her, I’ll kill you.” Bill turned his dark eyes on Eric. “Can you say the same?”
        Eric plainly wouldn’t, which put him behind in the “Who Loves Sookie More?” stakes. At the moment, that wasn’t so relevant. “You must also know this,” Eric said to Victor. “Even more pertinently, if anything happens to her, forces you can’t imagine will be set into motion.”
        Victor looked deeply thoughtful. “Of course, that could be an idle threat,” he said. “But somehow, I believe you are serious.]

      • 94 Dwimordene
        April 12, 2010 at 2:29 pm

        A reminder in the “probably next king” could be TB. AB has to work with CH, AB made Eric a viking prince, and so is in his blood to be a king (as in the past was thought). I’m sure that AB knows what is going to happen in the books, to catch the sense of the story, he has to know all about it, CH has to tell him. Just thinking.

    • 95 Barbara
      April 11, 2010 at 4:39 pm

      Oddly enough – I dreamt that last night. This scenario is very plausible indeed. Whether they were working together or just are helping each other out in order to get their own gains – there is something going on that includes Bill, Victor, FDC, and possibly someone else.

  23. 96 Tracey
    April 10, 2010 at 5:07 am

    i think it was Amelia or Sam. Not many people know Sookie is part fae. I highly doubt it was Bill. He’s the one that saved her, and he also called Eric to let him know. It had to be someone close to Sookie. Someone she trusts like Sam. Sam pretty much knows all the dirt on Sookie. Whats goin on wit her and all that jazz. also, sam knows how to reseach victor. I’m also thinkin Amelia. Amelia already knew the faes were after Sookie. Also, amelia seemed to show up at werid times or aleast be wathchin. I thought it was strange that she didnt when Sookie was taken. i was expectin her to be the one to contact help for sookie.

    I doubt it was Pam or Quinn. Pam cld care less about a human but Eric is her tresure. Quinn doesnt know Sookies involvment wit the faes. Hes a smart guy so i’m sure he knew Claudine and Claude hangin wit sookie was a significane but i dont think it was him. the last thing quinn wants is sookie dead. i’d be shocked and realli upset if it is quinn bc thats wld be totally out of character.

  24. 97 nskars
    April 10, 2010 at 7:23 am

    I like the idea of Bobby being the rat – it makes sense because he obviously loathes Sookie and wouldn’t care if harm came to her. He was also the one that was sent to deliver the marriage knife to her, maybe he had a hunch and was infuriated with jealousy and mentioned something to Victor?

    But I also put forward Frannie, Quinn’s sister. Not only would she be hostile towards Sookie due to the fact that she “broke Quinn’s heart” or whatever; but she seemed to have connections to Victor – remember when Victor came to Sookie’s house during the takeover and he saw Frannie and looked “severely displeased”? Just sayin…

    • 98 Gigi
      April 10, 2010 at 8:11 am

      You’re right about both… and don’t forget Sookie’s incident with Frannie and Quinn’s mom when they went to talk to her and how their dialog finished in a very hostile way…

      • 99 nskars
        April 10, 2010 at 12:07 pm

        Reading your comments (and SVB’s) above, Gigi, I agree that it wouldn’t really have taken a rat for Victor to know that there was something special about Sookie, that she was in danger and that Sookie was Eric’s only true weakness. It wouldn’t have been out of the ordinary for him to have his vamp cronies on standby should the shit hit the fan. He knew that something was brewing, so he would have had precautions (ie silver chains) at the ready should Eric attempt to go to her.

        The Quinn/Bill Hater in me would naturally want to point the finger at them, but I honestly can’t see either of them wanting Sookie in danger, it just doesn’t make sense. Especially concerning the fact that everyone knows how vicious the fairies are… why would they leak any information that would ultimately lead Sookie to the fairies and a long, painful death.

        • 100 Jo
          April 10, 2010 at 1:24 pm

          Bill and Quinn, may not want Sookie in danger, but obviously mostly Quinn he wants Eric out of the way he expressed it more than once right? he killed Andre when he was helpless, the more I did not like Andre. But both may have planned to take Eric and save Sookie, but everything went wrong, I think that is possible.
          Well, SVB’s comments seem inevitable Eric to be King, for unless I like it.

        • 101 Serena
          April 10, 2010 at 1:59 pm

          In defense of Quinn, I think he might be ineligible for the rat list.

          To which vamp does he owe allegiance? If it is FDC, then VM can’t touch him or torture him without FDC’s approval, otherwise FDC would know something was up with VM.”Hey get your hands of my prize poodle!” lol. So VM probably can’t force anything out of Quinn that FDC wouldn’t know about, and Victor probably wants to keep as much info to himself as possible.

          • 102 VikingLover
            April 10, 2010 at 4:47 pm

            Actuall all VM (or anyone for that mattter) has to do is threaten to harm Frannie or his Mother and Quinn would tell them anything they wanted to know. That’s another reason, in my opinion, that Quinn cannot be Sookie’s HEA. He is too dangerous to have around – honestly she shouldn’t even want him in her life. If I were Sookie, I wouldn’t even let Quinn drive me to the grocery store.

          • April 10, 2010 at 10:40 pm

            FDC already knows something is up with Victor – Eric says as much. He’s just biding his time. I’m still trying to work out if FDC is behind all of this or if he really is the good guy to Victor’s villian… My gut feeling has always been that FDC himself was behind keeping Eric away, and that FDC was snaky. But that was before there was any clue that Victor was going to turn out to be such an asshole with ambitions of his own. Gah my head is buzzing LOL.

            • 105 Gigi
              April 11, 2010 at 1:24 am

              I could be wrong… but I have the slight impression that FDC doesn’t know the lust for power and the intrigues of Victor in Louisiana. Remember that as a King he is located in Nevada, and Victor is at charge of Louisiana, what is giving him the chance to make a lot of things at his back. Also remember that Victor lied to him before telling him that Sigebert was dead and put his life at risk. And maybe with this incident in which Victor dared to chain Eric with silver to keep him from saving Sookie after he owes his life to her and made a personal commitment to look for her safety… his eyes begins to open and he began to suspect of Victor true motives. IMO he “aparently” didn’t say nothing to Victor, but we don’t know that for sure, and logic makes me think he didn’t do it then because he wasn’t going to do it in front of all the “junior” vampires that Victor has at his charge.

              We have to wait until we have the book at hand, but CH’s words about the drastic measures that Eric can use in case of emergency, are still ringing in my mind. And for a lot of reasons, including his principles of loyaltyand honor, and (of course) Sookie’s safety, I can’t visualize Eric making a direct confrontation against FDC and “winning” the King’s title. IMO, it might be very possible that Victor will do something against FDC if he confronts him about his lies, ulterior motives and hidden activities, and Victor probably is going to kill him. That could be the perfect trigger for an emergency at the kingdom and Eric will have at his side all FDC’s loyal subjects to fight against Victor and, after killing him, be proclaimed King.

              THE END ( LMAO:P )

              • 106 ericrocks
                April 11, 2010 at 2:20 am

                I like your theory Gigi. It makes a lot of sense. I, too, get the impression that FDC has a revelation about Victor, but will bide his time instead of acting rashly.

                Another thing is Appius. He is to be a newly named King, of where, we don’t yet know. I wonder how he will fit into this mess.

                Our poor Viking! He has it coming at him from all sides.

              • 107 VikingLover
                April 11, 2010 at 9:23 pm

                Gigi, I really like your theory. I think that Victor is acting alone, without FDC’s knowledge. I’m starting to think that Victor wanted Sookie to die because he was afraid that she might “hear” something about his plans for the takeover and therefore warn FDC. From what we can see of Victor, he is VERY smart and calculating. Sending Sigebert to kill FDC was so incredibly smart – he would have gotten rid of FDC without ever having a finger pointed at him. The same goes for Sookie when she is kidnapped by Neave and Lochlan. VM must have thought it was a gift from the Gods! The telepath would have been done away with and VM would not have had to be responsible for it – his hands would have been clean of the whole thing.

    • 108 Dee
      April 10, 2010 at 3:13 pm

      I also thought about Quinn’s sister, she hated Sookie for breaking her brothers heart. Shes also young and would do things without giving it much thought. Just trying to figure out how she would come to find out about the fae war and that they would capture Sookie.

  25. 109 sunnynala
    April 10, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Sorry, OT:

    This is cool, and good evidence Laffy will be involved in helping find Bill, maybe as Eric’s ‘day time guy’:

    LafayetteTB RT @squobby True Blood started filming a scene in Fangtasia today. I saw Lafayette, Eric and Jessica hanging around yesterday.
    29 minutes ago via Echofon

  26. 110 northmanfan
    April 10, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    my biggest bet is on Dermott.

  27. 111 kpmrse
    April 10, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    My bet points at Bill. What better situation to 1). be the Hero – “prove” his “love” to Sookie by saving her. 2). Get revenge on Eric for being with Sookie, and Sookie’s feelings for Eric. 3). Put himself in the best light with Victor and this new regime. Bill’s has a history of playing vampire politics – and his self preservation is a strong motivator if he feels that the new order is stronger than Eric’s. Plus, he’s only 150 years old. His experience with the Fae is most likely nil – he could naively think that he could handle the fight without Eric.

  28. 112 Lise
    April 11, 2010 at 11:58 am

    I have thought about this long and hard and have come up with Alcide. I really don’t think he would intentionally hurt Sookie but to get back at Eric, that would be another matter. He has been very resentful of the hold Eric had on his family. I think he would be vindictive enough to try and get Eric in trouble with his new King, without thinking about the ramifications of his actions on Sookie. Who he has used in the past with little thought.

  29. 113 KC
    April 11, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    I’m going with Bill although it might just be wish fulfillment. We know from Bill’s statement to Sookie in FDTW that he would do *anything* to get Sookie back, and at the takeover, there are clues that Victor and Bill are acquainted with each other, and Bill makes it clear to Victor then that he is willing to die for Sookie and *challenges* Eric to say the same outing them as rivals for Sookie’s affections.

    I don’t think Bill would risk Sookie’s life to get her back but I do think he might overestimate his and Niall’s abiity to get Sookie back relatively unharmed, make himself Sookie’s “knight in shining” and take Eric out all in one fell swoop. Do I think it’s likely Bill is the rat? No, but it *is* satisfying on a whole lot of levels.

  30. 114 KC
    April 11, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    I also meant to add that Bill would see the pledge as evidence that his chance to reclaim Sookie is rapidly disappearing and it might have made him both desperate and reckless. Poor Bill has no impulse control;)

  31. 115 Dwimordene
    April 11, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    I think it was Bill. He already has let Sookie being harmed before (the Ratts), even if now he, supposelly loves her (though I think he is lying himself and is about child’s jealousy); he would prefer her to be of no one than of other one. Also because doing this he would be able to be the hero (as he seems to like that word so much). But I don’t think he count on being so late the rescue nor on being harmed by the fairy, much less at Nial’s side.
    The others didn’t really know all about it… Except Dermot.

  32. 116 Liz
    April 11, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    i think enough people knew of Sookies heritage for it to be almost considered common knowledge, and Victor was able to connect the dots. Thing 1 and 2 were known to everyone, so perhaps they approached Victor, or PDC and told them not to interfere, and to heel their dog

  33. 117 lkc
    April 12, 2010 at 2:02 am

    I am thinking more and more that Bobbie Burnham could be involved. He loathes Sookie, Eric probably humiliated him when he told Bobbie to wash Sookie’s car if that’s what she wants. Sam says to Sookie after Bobbie leaves, ” like you need another enemy.” Bobbie hangs around Fangtasia, is human so the Vamps probably ignore him, so he could easedrop. Victor could easily have bribed him to spy for him, especially if he noticed if Bobbie was discontent. Or Bobbie and Bill could easily be in cohoots. Bobbie would probably know Bill’s situation, they could easily pass info to each other. Now if Bill was involved I don’t think he did it maliciously toward Sookie, thinking he could probably get to her in time and be her hero, or not knowing that Thing 1 and 2 were going to be involved.

    Oh so many possibilities!

  34. 118 Janofarc
    April 13, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    Okay here’s my theory.

    Bill and Victor clearly know each other from their exchange in FDTW, also in this book Bill(stupidly) makes it obvious that they key to taking down both him AND Eric is through Sookie. Victor sends Siegebert after FDC and Eric – fail, so he looks to other ways to take down the Viking – say where can you find a vampire who will bypass his Sherriff and work for another superior around these parts to provide information on telepaths?

    Dermott has been hanging around Jason and listening, probably finding out about how his fangbanging sister shagged the vampire across the cemetery from her and even now he’s skulking around protecting her just waiting for the chance to get her away from her hunk of muchos hotness. How much would it really have taken Dermott to convince Bill to find some way to detain Eric while Sookie is held to put the frighteners up GGfather and Bill can ride in on his white horse?

    Bill thought that Dermott would be the one to take Sookie but once Breandan found out about the plan he brought out the big guns – Lochlan and Neave. Once again Bill is a victim of his own stupidity and desire to manipulate Sookie’s feelings for him through lying. Instead of going to Eric and telling him the fairies had approached him – he tried to use it to his advantage and Eric’s detriment.

    Bill and Dermott plan the kidnapping, Bill tells Victor what’s going on so he can detain Eric as soon as he sends a signal (phone call when Sookie is taken) and perhaps Bill even helped with the poisoning of Bubba and Trey to ensure he was the only local help available to her – the only one she could turn to with so little time on her hands. Bill has never been one to really think things through and his desire to be Sookie’s bedmate again blinds him often (as proven by him telling Victor he would die for her in an attempt to ‘one-up’ Eric during the takeover).

    I’m sure all these points will get blown out of the water by someone – I’m not the best conspiracy theorist :o)

  35. 119 Lkc
    April 25, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Just rereading some old posts for DAG on Ch’s site and one comment got me thinking and adding to why I think Bill’s the RAT! Bill goes into Tray’s house to check for Sookie. he comes out and says Tray wasn’t there, there is blood and it’s not all Tray’s. If it’s the faeries why can’t Bill smell it? He has a good nose, that is pointed out many times thru the series. I know some Faeries can mask their smell but can they mask the smell of their blood when they are no longer there? So you add that to why did Bill stop at a traffic light in the middle of the night in a podunk town like Bon Temps and all the other reasons expressed above and I smell mucho bombs in the garden pertaining to Bill.

    • 120 Robin
      April 25, 2010 at 4:04 pm

      Lkc, I think Bill is the rat too. I have really put some thought into the clues that CH has given us in FDTW and DAG, but it never occurred to me that Bill could smell the scent of the fairy blood at Tray’s house. Good catch, that only strengthens the theory! And, coupled with the fact that he did not run the stoplight on the way to her house, it all makes sense. We also have no idea if he spoke on the phone with anyone while he was driving to her house. His call to Eric to inform him of her kidnapping would have served two purposes: (1) Eric would then call Niall about her kidnapping (Bill could then assist Niall in her rescue, knowing that Victor would restrain Eric); and (2) to set Victor’s plan to restrain Eric and Pam into motion. Victor gets to gain the upper hand on Eric as payback for the pledge by knife, and Bill gets to be Sookie’s hero. Could it also be payback for Sookie breaking up a possible coup attempt at in Merlotte’s parking lot?

      Of course, there also has to be another rat that would inform Victor of Sookie’s royal fae heritage and the coming fae war, could this be Dermot? It seems to me that there also has to be a Fae connection – how else would Victor know that Lochlan and Neave were going to kidnap Sookie?

      I also have a strong feeling that Sophie Anne may still be alive, working behind the scenes with Victor Madden to bring down FDC, especially since we know Sigebert survived the Nevada takeover. We know that Bill has connections with Sophie Anne. And, we find out in FDTW that Victor Madden and Bill, at the very minimum, know each other during the Nevada takeover.

      My questions are, will any of these theories be put to rest in DITF, or will we have to wait until book 11? Does the Shakespearian ending of DITF involve the vampire or Were storyline? If the rat is Bill, I do not think we find out in DITF.

      • 121 Lkc
        April 25, 2010 at 5:21 pm

        No I definitely don’t think we would find out in DITF but it will be interesting to see how Eric treats/talks to Bill. Is he showing any signs of suspicion of Bill. Will also be interesting to see any Victor/Eric interactions, or even Sookie interactions with Victor. Just one of many possibilities–cannot wait for DITF!

        • 122 kelly1981
          April 25, 2010 at 5:54 pm

          bill should have been able to smell the fairy’s even if they only touched the front door, when sookie had her meeting with niall, eric upon meeting her at the car remarked on how he could smell fairy even tho sookie had only touched hands with niall. i loved that bit tho….

          i wonder if in book 10 bill tried to win favour with sookie using his illness to send her on a not-so-merry jaunt. eric will be kept busy by his maker and sookie will befall some monumental catastrophy. but blaming eric for not helping, not bill for sending her. this could cause her to go to amelia to get the blood bond removed in book 11. hopefully this will make her realise how much she wants eric. i hope he makes her crawl….

          grrr sometimes i just can hold on to the rant

  36. 123 Emily
    April 29, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    I don’t want it to be, but it could be Pam. It’s the simplest explanation. She didn’t want Eric to die, so she had him delayed long enough so that when he arrived he’d have enough backup.

    She has affection for Sookie, and it’s doubtful she wanted her to die… But she has expressed before that she wishes Eric wasn’t distracted by his feelings for Sookie.

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