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Eric Does Dudes – what do you think?

During an interview at the Tribeca Film Festival over the weekend, Alexander Skarsgard dropped this tantalising little hint about what Eric will be doing in season 3 when he’s not having smackdowns with Bill or lusting after Sookie:

“I’m not a prude at all,” he says. “I shot a very, very graphic scene two days ago with a man.

Not just “graphic”, people.

Not even “very graphic”.

But “very, very graphic”.

Personally, I’m OK with this. I don’t think this is out of character at all – but I know that some of you have very strong feelings about Eric doing dudes.

So let us know what you think in the poll.

Who do you think the lucky man will be? Lafayette? Godric in a flashback? Someone else?

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261 Responses to “Eric Does Dudes – what do you think?”


  1. April 26, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    Can I hear a FUCK YEAH?

  2. April 27, 2010 at 12:00 am

    I don’t mind one bit…….but I am a freak. (My husband will confirm.)

    I’m wondering if this might be related to Lafayette ingesting Eric’s blood, though? It’s about time he should have some hot and bothered dreams of the Viking persuasion.

    • April 27, 2010 at 12:04 am

      OMG if it’s an Eric/Lafayette dream I will just fucking DIE.

      A very, very happy woman.

    • 4 Ashley H.
      April 27, 2010 at 12:23 am

      [I don’t mind one bit…….but I am a freak. (My husband will confirm.)]

      LOL!
      I’m definitely feeling a Eric/Lafayette sexy dream. I’d rather see that than Eric dressed as Lettie Mae any day!

    • 7 MASpencer
      April 27, 2010 at 1:05 am

      Well, there SHOULD be a Lafayette dream. Sookie’s got him beat 2 to 0 at this point. I think it’s about time Alan Ball evened the scoreboard a little.

      Then again, by episode 9 of season 3, the whole sexy dream device might be getting a little stale. So I’m thinking it might be something else. And aside from a Godric flashback, I have no idea what that scenario could be.

      Anyway, as a character, Eric is nothing if not GGG. So whatever it is, I’m sure it will be hawt… and hopefully, relevant to the plot, too. LOL.

  3. 8 L
    April 27, 2010 at 12:10 am

    I’m going with flashback or random dude.

  4. 9 pbt
    April 27, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Eric Northman, Vampire Viking God, getting his freak on is f*cking hot to me. I think seeing the Viking having sex with just about anyone at this point is very needed. If vampires are such sexual creatures, how come we have seen no sex except for Bill. I want to see the Viking, Godric and Pam all get their freaks on. As a matter of fact, put all three of them in bed at once. Now there is a dream come true. Let’s face it, I am pretty bored with the other vampire sex that has been depicted up to this point. Boring!

    • 10 MASpencer
      April 27, 2010 at 12:33 am

      This, please.

    • April 27, 2010 at 12:50 am

      Vote one for any sex with the Viking God.. we’ve suffered enough atrocity with Bill and Sam butt on screen… Let the Viking out!!!

    • 12 ksr
      April 27, 2010 at 8:57 am

      [I want to see the Viking, Godric and Pam all get their freaks on. As a matter of fact, put all three of them in bed at once. Now there is a dream come true. Let’s face it, I am pretty bored with the other vampire sex that has been depicted up to this point. Boring!]
      [Vote one for any sex with the Viking God.. we’ve suffered enough atrocity with Bill and Sam butt on screen… Let the Viking out!!!]
      Let’s make an open letter! I’ll sign it first! )))))

    • 13 Natalie
      May 16, 2010 at 9:00 pm

      I’ll agree to this! Lets not forget the other sex we have watched in the show was Jason. I want some other Vampire hot sexy scenes.

  5. 14 T.Rece
    April 27, 2010 at 12:17 am

    I must be old fashioned bc I’m not looking forward to it. If it is a flashback or dream sequence, it wouldn’t bother me so much–only bc I fear that AB is just throwing random sex scenes of Eric to apease fans. He’ll already be screwing around with the stripper. All that just doesn’t sound promising for E/S and I want REAL Eric/Sookie, damnit!

    • 15 Meili
      April 27, 2010 at 12:27 am

      LOL! I think I’m with you T.Rece. Although I will be ok with this (it IS ASkars after all!), it will definitely throw me off a little. I know vampires are very sexual creatures, but I’d like to see Eric & Sookie first before I have to see Eric and some other dude! LOL!

      That said… if I had to choose, I’d pick Eric / Godric flashback. I think Godric is gorgeous, 2 very good-looking dudes getting it on… I can live with that!

    • 17 Ashley
      April 27, 2010 at 1:55 am

      Yeah i dont mind if its a flashback or a dream, but otherwise i dont know. Just because of E/S. I think it must be a flashback or a dream though.

    • 18 VikingLover
      April 27, 2010 at 3:02 am

      I agree. Flashbacks are fine, that’s in the book anyway. If it’s just a random, AB-created liason, I might be turned off. Couldn’t you just hear the BLs then… “Bill would never do that!”

      • 19 VikingLover
        April 27, 2010 at 1:31 pm

        Hey Hon, can you modify your name a little bit? I’ve been posting on this blog under the VikingLover name for some time now and it’s how I’m known. I would really appreciate it! Thank you!! 🙂

  6. 20 holby
    April 27, 2010 at 12:18 am

    Funny that this would come out. I almost posted on the Final Season 3 promo page about the fact that in the 2nd promo Eric basically has a naked Were’s junk right in his face. I was thinking how uncomfortable THAT could be for an insecure man. But, ASkars is obviously fine with gender bending roles (see Kill Your Darlings).

    And I will take Alex…naked, clothed, with men, even with AP or KB (haha)

  7. 21 Liz
    April 27, 2010 at 12:24 am

    I am not one bit surprised, it was in the books at the Kings mansion, so i imagine that was what this scene will be about, but if not, ill enjoy it however it comes

    • 22 Imagine
      April 27, 2010 at 1:09 am

      I think you are right about that, it makes sense. I wonder how far they will go with E/S scene in bed at the mansion? I hope they stay true to the books there. I am so excited!

      • April 27, 2010 at 1:35 am

        [I wonder how far they will go with E/S scene in bed at the mansion? I hope they stay true to the books there. I am so excited!]

        OH THEY BETTER. That’ll be so flipping hot… *fans self with a copy of Club Dead*

        • 24 Ashley
          April 27, 2010 at 1:57 am

          OH yes it was, yes it was. I will be so pissed if some version isnt included. We have gotten NOTHING so far. Is one REAL sexual scene too much to ask? I think not.

          • 25 Meili
            April 27, 2010 at 2:00 am

            Yes, definitely hoping for that scene. Although…if there is no Bubba, who’s gonna stop them from going all the way?

            • 26 Serena
              April 27, 2010 at 2:13 am

              Alcide gets my vote.

              • 27 Meili
                April 27, 2010 at 2:14 am

                Alcide? At Russell’s place?

                • 28 Serena
                  April 27, 2010 at 2:27 am

                  Yeah he could be there to help arrange the car. and he is pretending to be her boyfriend, so i don’t see why they wouldn’t let him in. i like it better than it being Talbot or one of Russell’s vamps.

                  • 29 Meili
                    April 27, 2010 at 2:33 am

                    Well that would throw a monkey wrench into things. If Alcide is there to help arrange the car, then Eric’s role would be severely diminished. I hope not, I still want Eric to be her only go to person in terms of helping Bill get out of there. It just shows him to be a bigger man, who would still do all that he did for Sookie, despite the fact that he was helping Bill get out of there.

                    • 30 Serena
                      April 27, 2010 at 3:06 am

                      Hmm, I don’t think it would. Alcide is only there because he was ordered to. In my vision he would interrupt, drop off the keys, and then be ordered out by Eric. Alcide would still be the lesser man.

              • April 27, 2010 at 2:27 am

                Now THAT would make my tv blow up from the hotness…but alas, it ain’t never gonna happen.

            • 32 dsm
              April 27, 2010 at 2:53 am

              I’m voting for Pam filling in for Bubba and stopping them … I can almost hear the acerbic comments she’d make in that situation. Priceless.

        • 35 Imagine
          April 27, 2010 at 2:07 am

          No kidding right? Season 4 will be even better. Can’t wait for the shower scene hopefully it won’t be near as awkward as the book was, not that that those pages aren’t worn out anyway. 😉

          • 36 MASpencer
            April 27, 2010 at 2:16 am

            One word: puppies. LOL!!!!!!!!

            • 37 Meili
              April 27, 2010 at 2:20 am

              Hahaha!!! At least we won’t have to “watch” what she is thinking at that time, and can just focus on the act! Those pages was more humorous than heated! But hey… I’ll take what I can get!

  8. 38 Millarca
    April 27, 2010 at 12:25 am

    I reckon it’s probably an Eric/Lafayette dream, in which case I shall just enjoy it. 😀 I wouldn’t be at all surprised or bothered if he’d had the occasional sexual encounter with a man in the past – he is a vampire, after all – but I think of him as being very masculine and heterosexual and I like it that way and want his orientation of choice to be overwhelmingly hetero. I am also more than a little paranoid about what they might do to the character to make him seem to be an unsuitable partner for Sookie.

    • 39 sunnynala
      April 27, 2010 at 12:32 am

      I reckon it’s probably an Eric/Lafayette dream, in which case I shall just enjoy it. I wouldn’t be at all surprised or bothered if he’d had the occasional sexual encounter with a man in the past – he is a vampire, after all – but I think of him as being very masculine and heterosexual and I like it that way and want his orientation of choice to be overwhelmingly hetero.

      Totally agreed on all points.

  9. 40 Jo
    April 27, 2010 at 12:30 am

    I do not care to see some action between two men in the show, but not like that Eric … not because they think it will slow it down or something … I just do not like him with anyone, already have such a dancer, I know I know it’s irrational …
    but I hope it serves no purpose than just being “cool” you know … all I want at the end of this season all make a little sense and do not have another disaster like the story of Menead
    I just want the history books dammit! I think I’ll wait for the season was over to see everything in a row, if it is worth.

  10. 41 Davida
    April 27, 2010 at 12:39 am

    I don’t care who the other guy is. I’m sure the scene will be hot like fire. Can’t wait.

  11. 43 dsm
    April 27, 2010 at 1:04 am

    In the book they implied at one point that Eric had spend intimate time with one of the male vamps in Russell’s estate in order to help with Bill’s rescue. I think the only evidence was a hickey mark on his neck in the book. They may show us more of this. The only other option I’d see would be a dream sequence which would probably be less controversial for viewers (gives folks plausible deniability – they can say it is only a dream didn’t really happen). I kind of hope that they go with first scenario though. Eric was very sexual in the books but I always got the impression he was an equal opportunity type of guy. Had a preference for women but was willing to switch teams for the right person or even the right cause.

    • 44 Natalie
      May 16, 2010 at 9:08 pm

      I have to agree here about Eric in the books. I’d like it if it was not a dream scene as well.

      The other thing is I think AS is pretty open. Sexuality is held differently in Europe than in the states so I don’t think it’s outside his area either. That is just a hunch not fact.

  12. 45 VikingLover
    April 27, 2010 at 1:12 am

    Well, I voted for not sure/wait see with who it etc. I trust AS and if he’s cool with it then I’m sure it was handled with care. HOWEVER, I really would prefer NOT to see Eric with a dude. I just don’t want to see that. It’s hard enough for me to see him with Yvetta. It’s irrational, I know. lol.

    • 46 Ashley
      April 27, 2010 at 1:59 am

      I think Yvetta bothers me more than the dude, because i think it will be a dream or a flashback. But Sam has been with two other women and he supposedly loves Sookie, so it doesnt make sense to get upset over Eric and Yvetta i guess.

  13. 47 Serena
    April 27, 2010 at 1:17 am

    Any Skarsporn is good Skarsporn, yet I can’t help but to have ominous feelings about it.. I just hope it doesn’t detract from Eric x Sookie, he better fix her driveway dammit.

  14. 48 Ericrocks
    April 27, 2010 at 1:20 am

    NO NO NO! This will ruin my fantasy. But if there is going to be something, I hope it will be Lafayette’s dreams. I could deal with that. I think…..maybe…..prolly not.

    • 49 MASpencer
      April 27, 2010 at 1:43 am

      I have to say, you make an interesting point. I have many, many, many gay friends– and I have ALWAYS had many, many gay friends. As a consequence, there’s an invisible switch that goes off in my head when I know any given hot guy bats for the other team, which FORBIDS me from being sexually attracted to him in any way, shape, or form.

      Call it a defense mechanism. Any seasoned fag hag who ever developed a crush on her first gay best friend knows what I’m talking about. It may happen once… but it NEVER happens again. LOL.

      Anyway, this is what makes the prospect of Eric getting down with the dudes a tricky one. If it’s no-holds-barred, one-on-one, present-day man love, it could totally be a dealbreaker for a lot of the shippers. If, on the other hand, it’s a threesome that involves a woman, it’s not so much of a problem– because at least there’s someone there for the ladies to project themselves onto. And if it’s a flashback, well, there’s that whole self-discovery thing, which is totally fine, too. (If only more men ADMITTED that they experimented with other men… because you KNOW it wasn’t just the girls making out with eachother in college. LOL.)

      And finally, if it’s a dream… well… that doesn’t count, now does it?

      My point: Alan Ball is no dummy. He knows exactly how this rationalization works, and I strongly doubt that he’s going to set up a scenario that might encourage straight women all over the world to start trolling gay bars for hot dates.

      In short, don’t worry girls. I’m pretty sure it will be fine. Extra emphasis on the FINE. 😉

      • April 27, 2010 at 1:55 am

        I agree 100% MAS. I highly doubt we will be seeing Eric getting his rocks off with a man in real time…and I also doubt a threesome. This character has a massive female following, and if he is trying to nurture that (sometimes I have my doubts…) then it makes no sense to put him in a position that a great chunk of that audience aren’t going to be comfortable seeing him in.

        Though looking at the results of the poll, more of us want to see this than not.

        It’s the same reason the Chicago scenes were in flashback – Ball even said that he wouldn’t have his male lead rape the woman after Stephen Moyer suggested it. Totally OT, but Moyer obviously knows where Ball plans to go with Bill to even make that suggestion in the first place.

        • 51 MASpencer
          April 27, 2010 at 3:17 am

          Well, Sookie mentions wanting to be the meat in a vampire sandwich MORE than once in the books. So don’t rule out a threesome just yet, SVB. 😉

      • 52 Ericrocks
        April 27, 2010 at 2:11 am

        See, that is what I am saying. I once many years ago dated this really HAWT young man. Dated, slept with, had a great time with. Any and all of the above. OMG he was gorgeous and sexy as shit. I found out he was bi-sexual, and it just wasn’t happening for me anymore. No sir, not me. I am not homophobic, I just want my man to want women. So I won’t mind hearing about the sexabilities of the Viking ‘s past, I just do not want to SEE it.

        • 53 VikingLover
          April 27, 2010 at 2:40 am

          [I found out he was bi-sexual, and it just wasn’t happening for me anymore. No sir, not me. I am not homophobic, I just want my man to want women. So I won’t mind hearing about the sexabilities of the Viking ‘s past, I just do not want to SEE it.]

          Exactly! This is exactly how I feel. Honestly, I’m afraid it would hinder by attraction for the Viking. Like MAS said, it’s like a defense mechanism. The minute there is even a hint of homosexuality (even just bi-sexuality) that person is no longer attractive in my eyes. They become asexual to me.

        • 54 MASpencer
          April 27, 2010 at 3:03 am

          We’ll see what happens.

          The way I see it, everyone’s a little bit gay… it just happens to be more socially acceptable for women to blur that line than it is for men. And because of it, terms like “bisexual” have come under fire aplenty: One woman may feel free to call herself bi because she made out with a chick once when she was drunk at a party… whereas another man may call himself bi because he’s just not comfortable admitting that he’s really a gay man who doesn’t much mind having sex with women. And sometimes, the situation is reversed (though far less often, I’m sure).

          That’s why I’ll admit to having questioned the validity of the term “bisexual” myself in the past. Mostly because, when people use it these days, it’s kind of impossible to know what they REALLY mean. It’s a problematic label, to say the least. But I digress…

          If we see Eric hooking up with a dude, I personally don’t have an issue with it at all. And I’m sure Alan Ball will present it in a way that’s acceptable to both Eric’s open-minded female following AND Sookie. As a point of reference, Ball also gave Keith, David’s boyfriend from Six Feet Under, a one-night-stand with a woman– as written, he was a gay man who was, on the rare occasion, known to enjoy sex with the ladies. It wasn’t, however, presented as a threat to that (admittedly open) relationship– which I have to say was probably one of the most accurate and poignant portrayals of a gay couple ever written for television.

          In Alan Ball’s hands, I’m sure Eric could be perfectly comfortable with (and maybe even enjoy) a homosexual encounter, while still being as “straight” as they come. Just like he is in the books.

          Anyway, this will probably end up being so hyped that no one will even care about it once it actually happens. Like that supposedly “homoerotic” blood-drinking scene between Eric and Lafayette. Please. If I was waiting for ANYONE to just get it over with and fuck already, it was Jason and Luke. LOL!

          • 55 VikingLover
            April 27, 2010 at 3:25 am

            {If I was waiting for ANYONE to just get it over with and fuck already, it was Jason and Luke. LOL!}

            Now THIS I wouldn’t have minded. Hahahaha!

            I’m sure you’re absolutely right about AB handling the whole thing correctly – I really have no doubt about this. My issue is solely with myself and this irrational need to not see Eric with anyone else other than Sookie. AND NO DUDES! lol

            • 56 VikingLover
              April 27, 2010 at 3:27 am

              Oh and not to mention my selfish fear that I will no longer be attracted to TB Eric because I will forever picture him hot and bothered with his tongue down another man’s throat. I think I’m going to cry. *whimper*

              • April 27, 2010 at 3:31 am

                See i’m not worried about that because there have been some really good AH/AU fics out there atm that has E/A/S pairing.. and i only see Alex and Joe as E/A. Also remember The Texanlady ‘The Arrangement’ Fic… it paired up E and Godric. But that is just me, i won’t hold it again them, though i can the need to have a female body in there to balance out the scene.

                I do think it will be Eric and Godric, and a flashback from a very long time ago.

        • 58 ksr
          April 27, 2010 at 10:52 am

          [I just want my man to want women.] If we are talking about reality so I want my man to want only ME! Am I naive? Yep! We all are… somehow.
          But if we are still discussing TV show and concocted character of superhot vampire viking I don’t mind to see his sexual experiments especially if it will be done stylish and tastefully. I bet AScar could manage it! ;)))))

      • 59 Natalie
        May 16, 2010 at 9:12 pm

        AMEN to the Men admitting experimentation!!! Sorry you stated that so well.

    • 60 teamEric
      May 10, 2010 at 10:08 pm

      im with you… cant deal with Skarsporn that doesnt have a leading lady, or just him… two men, just doesnt do it for me…

  15. April 27, 2010 at 1:30 am

    Some of the Twitter people are saying that little fairies have told them it could be with CHOW.

    Discuss.

    • April 27, 2010 at 1:33 am

      I don’t think I’d get much of a kick out of it being Chow. I don’t think TB Chow is all that handsome, even though he’s supposed to be quite the looker according to CH. My first terribly unrequited crush was on an Asian feller, maybe I can just mentally copy and paste his looks onto Chow for a few very, very graphic minutes?

      • April 27, 2010 at 1:39 am

        TB Chow is a travesty. I have no idea what the fuck they were thinking casting that guy. I like him better on Glee.

        • 64 holby
          April 27, 2010 at 2:02 am

          Oh the Humanity!!! Is there ANY worse casting on TB than Chow?!?! I think not!!! Sure, a long haired, hot, tattooed gange member is now a stocky, be-suited and stodgy Asian American. WTF?

          (And I do NOT want to hear anything about EVER seeing him NAKED – with or without ASkars!)

      • 65 Ericsexytimes
        April 27, 2010 at 3:20 am

        That would be bad. It’s present day (nit a flashback) and Chow is not at all attractive in the show. That can’t be true. Tell me that isn’t true.

        Why, oh why does AB hate Eric so much? He took the Long Shadow staking from Eric and gave it to Bill, cut Eric’s hair, now he’s darkening Eric’s hair. And now Eric could be getting it on with CHOW??? Ugh. What’s next? I could be done with this show.

    • April 27, 2010 at 1:38 am

      I think they must be joking.

      NOONE wants to see that. Just NO.

      • April 27, 2010 at 1:42 am

        I agree…could be a false spoiler just to get people riled up, so they can be “shocked” when it ends up being someone else entirely. It seems more likely to be misdirection the more I think about it. That’d just be all kinds of strange.

        Godric, Pam, Eric… I could dig that. But Chow? Just no. It gives me the creepies like watching Jane Bodehouse get it on… *delicate shudder*

      • 68 dsm
        April 27, 2010 at 2:47 am

        I’m sorry I can’t even parse that possibility. Yuck, just yuck. I’m all for Eric getting it on with whomever as long as the whomever is HOT. Chow is not hot – chow is not even warm.

    • 69 MASpencer
      April 27, 2010 at 1:45 am

      I just threw up in my mouth.

      • 70 Meili
        April 27, 2010 at 1:55 am

        LOL!! That “falsehood” was probably thrown out there by BLs because they know what’s coming to them this season!! Chow….hah! I still think it’s a flashback with Godric. I don’t see the thing with Laffy, he already told us that he has those dreams, I see no reason to show us more.

        I have nothing against gays, I have several gay friends. I just want Eric & Sookie to get it on first so this scene does not kill me! As I mentioned before, I could… possibly… deal with an Eric and Godric flashback. I think there is also a possibility that it’s Bernard, the guy at Russell’s, although I don’t really think it is necessary to show “the act”, they didn’t elaborate too much of it in the book either, they just insinuated.

        • 71 MASpencer
          April 27, 2010 at 2:02 am

          It’s in the book, so in that sense, Ball would be a fool not to pick it up and run with it. (It certainly didn’t make the readers any less hot for Eric… if anything, it demonstrates that he’s open-minded and GGG like that.)

          However, I’m not sure how this exact scene would fit into the plotline at this point in the season, since word on the street is that Bill has already been rescued. Of course, that may not be true… and it’s also possible that they’re re-purposing the scene to appear within a different context.

          • 72 VikingLover
            April 27, 2010 at 2:45 am

            [It’s in the book, so in that sense, Ball would be a fool not to pick it up and run with it. (It certainly didn’t make the readers any less hot for Eric… if anything, it demonstrates that he’s open-minded and GGG like that.) ]

            For me it worked in the books because 1) CH never went into explicit detail and 2) it’s one thing to read something and another thing entirely to see it acted out on screen. I honestly don’t know why it bothers me so damn much. I never had trouble with any of the Vampire Chronicles nor did I have any issues with the show Queer as Folk (I loved that show) but for some reason, when it comes to Eric, it just does.

          • 73 KittyKat
            April 27, 2010 at 9:24 am

            I’ll be really pissed off if AB picks up on that thing on Russel’s mansion between Bernard (I think that’s the name?) and Eric, which is only hinted at, and somehow “forgets” the extremely hot E/S scene, explicitly in the books as it is. Hell, it’s hot even with both of them in underwear, so it even appeals to “prudes” (no prude should watch TB though :P).

    • 74 ksr
      April 27, 2010 at 11:00 am

      Jesus! I’m laughing and choking with tears!!! What a marvelous, stunning sense of humor!)))))

  16. 75 holby
    April 27, 2010 at 1:59 am

    I like the idea of Eric, having taken a bullet and cared for Sookie..after beginning to show her his softer affectionate side VERY reluctantly has to romance a man to ensure Sookie’s safe escape from Russell’s compound..AND SHE KNOWS HE SACRIFICED FOR HER!!!!

    • 76 dsm
      April 27, 2010 at 2:50 am

      I can see this – it shows a side of Eric that is very different from Bill. He does whatever he needs to do to survive and protect those he cares about …

      • 77 Meili
        April 27, 2010 at 2:54 am

        I still don’t see the scene in question would have to do with his little tryst with Bernard. I don’t see the point in having a “very, very graphic” scene like that just to prove that he is protecting her.

        • 78 dsm
          April 27, 2010 at 3:09 am

          The books are from Sookie’s point of view so that seriously limits what CH can show us. This isn’t something Sookie would witness – she’d just see the evidence of what happened. The show isn’t limited in this way so there is more ability to jump around and show different perspectives on events. That said, I agree with your observation that this wasn’t portrayed in the books as a major event in Eric’s or Sookie’s life so I’d question the need for showing it in graphic detail (unless the circumstances have been altered in some way). The treatment the book provided would be enough to get that message across.

        • 79 Liz
          April 27, 2010 at 3:46 am

          i dont see the point in any of TBs graphic scenes, beyond rating grabbers. Jason screwing a girl while watching vampire porn, or season 2s multiple orgy scenes didnt fit into how i read the book either

    • 80 VikingLover
      April 27, 2010 at 3:00 am

      [I like the idea of Eric, having taken a bullet and cared for Sookie..after beginning to show her his softer affectionate side VERY reluctantly has to romance a man to ensure Sookie’s safe escape from Russell’s compound..AND SHE KNOWS HE SACRIFICED FOR HER!!!!]

      Well if I have to endure a sex scene with Eric and Bernard then she’d better show some f***ing appreciation for his sacrifice. It better not be another Sookie-head-in-her-ass moment like the bullet sucking episode where he jumped in front of a bullet for her and she didn’t even acknowledge it.

      • 81 T.Rece
        April 27, 2010 at 3:24 am

        So true! Oh gosh I am with you on that. If I have to suffer–and Eric sacrifices–then her bitch ass better be showing some appreciation!lol If not for Eric, do it for me Sooks!

  17. 83 VikingLover
    April 27, 2010 at 2:00 am

    Okay, I’m trying to be rational about this but NO NO NO!!! WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS!! I’m upset and I can’t help it!!!

    • 84 Meili
      April 27, 2010 at 2:02 am

      Well, it might not be as bad as some of us are imagining it. It could just be a snipet. You’ll be fine! LOL!! We’ll all be fine! Keep focusing on his gracious… emmm… glorious body! 🙂

      • 85 VikingLover
        April 27, 2010 at 2:29 am

        I know, it’s total irrational but I can’t help it. I just do not want to see Eric with his tongue in another dude’s mouth. I just don’t. They could show Lafayette and Bill, Bill and Jason, hell Bill/Lafayette/Jason/Chow/Bud Dearborn and I wouldn’t care. Just not Eric.

        Okay, rant over. *sigh* So now there are 2 scenes I’ll be dreading in S3: Yvetta and Eric Gay Sex Fest.

        • 86 Meili
          April 27, 2010 at 2:35 am

          Hah! You and me both! I know I’m gonna have big issues with Yvetta and I’m not looking forward to the scene, despite the fact that Viking Sex God will be naked.

        • 87 T.Rece
          April 27, 2010 at 3:09 am

          I’ve been really trying to rationalize this in my head–preparing myself–and I just can’t. So, I totally understand the hesitation. Honestly, I’ve become pretty good at ignoring certain aspects of CH’s books (i.e. the fashion) and with that came the ability to censor almost anything. In that category, I must admit, is the situation at Russell’s mansion and the talks of Appius. The “hickey” I could handle–I didn’t have to visualize any further–in my little twisted world it didn’t go further than that. And, did I mention I didn’t have to see it! Ugh, why am I being so dramatic!lol Then with the Appius thing, I just told myself–it wasn’t by choice. And, again, I left it at that. Seeing it live in action–a la TB–is just too much.

          What I want to know is why it has to be Eric…I get the whole vamps are equal opportunity, but what about Billy? I could skip over that scene with NO problem regardless.

          I do agree–rather, I’m praying–with whomever said that Alan is not an idiot and won’t want to lose the fan base that will have a problem with it. Meaning he will do it as a flashback, etc. In the meantime though, I’m pulling a Sookie and sticking both my middle fingers up in the air–only this time they’re both directed at him!

          • April 27, 2010 at 3:24 am

            Ah but T.Rece…he does admit to Sookie that eventually he enjoyed it with Appius, even though he was forced to at first.

            • 89 T.Rece
              April 27, 2010 at 3:26 am

              Details…SVB…details!lol Just kidding. I know he said something of the effect, but I thought it was more like “it wasn’t so bad after blah blah…i enjoyed it.” therefore, I focus on the “it wasn’t so bad” and assume it was just par for course. This intention there was not Eric’s–or atleast one can believe that–and I think that makes a huge difference in translating it from word to film.

              • 90 VikingLover
                April 27, 2010 at 3:50 am

                T.Rece, I’m totally with you on that. That is exactly how I read and interpreted those scenes. I like denial – it suits me. 🙂

                • 91 T.Rece
                  April 27, 2010 at 4:18 am

                  Denial yes…and it seems to suit Sookie as well!

                  • 92 Meili
                    April 27, 2010 at 10:37 am

                    I’m totally with you both VL & T.Rece! I’m in denial too. The 2 scenes mentioned, those were easy details to quickly skim through and forget. It is one thing to read through very briefly and another to actually watch the deed being done. So… hopefully this “very, very graphic” scene will only be but a few seconds and we can just close our eyes…

                    • 93 VikingLover
                      April 27, 2010 at 11:47 am

                      [hopefully this “very, very graphic” scene will only be but a few seconds and we can just close our eyes…]

                      I must admit that I plan to turn the channel during this scene. Everyone can tell me about it later. lol

            • 94 dsm
              April 27, 2010 at 3:33 am

              They seem to imply that, due to heightened libido and lengthened lifespans, all vampires are bi to some degree or another in the books. After 1000 years, I imagine most would eventually get around to field testing all of the various options out there …

              • 95 holby
                April 28, 2010 at 2:00 am

                I think that vampires, living lives that were off the radar until “recently” were already anathema to what living society considered acceptable. I have a feeling that if there were no stigma attached in social groups, a lot more people would experiment in LOTS of different sexual arenas! Experiencing various sexual options does not mean that one’s primary interest is altered. You can dabble with member of the same sex and enjoy it while still preferring heterosexual encounters most. And in the ultimat “alternative lifestyle” that being a vampire for 1000 years would be, what’s a little sexual experimentation?

        • 96 MASpencer
          April 27, 2010 at 3:10 am

          LOL!!!

          There there, VL. This is just what we get for speculating about Bill’s latent homosexuality. 😉

          • 97 VikingLover
            April 27, 2010 at 3:20 am

            [There there, VL. This is just what we get for speculating about Bill’s latent homosexuality]

            LMAO!!! I know! It’s karma!! They’re killing my S3 buzz man! 🙂

        • 98 Millarca
          April 27, 2010 at 3:21 am

          I was worried about Yvetta, but those worries pale into insignificance compared to the fears I now have about this man on man action. There are so many possible scenarios, some far worse than others, and none of them pleases me. I do not want to see Eric, of all people, having sex with another man, unless it’s a blood-induced dream sequence and even then I would prefer not to see it. I suppose it would be OK if it’s Bernard, and if it’s made clear that he only did it to help Sookie, and Eric had better not be enjoying it too much. This bothers me far more than it should. Oddly enough I have no such qualms about the prospect of seeing Bill and Sam together.

  18. April 27, 2010 at 2:51 am

    If he is wit a dude i’d prefer that guy thats going to play Alcide bc he is so fucking fine and putting him in a nude scence wit my boo Eric is worth the wait and watch!!!

    • 100 T.Rece
      April 27, 2010 at 3:17 am

      See that would be the ultimate horror for me…not only would my attraction to Eric be in question but Alcide too.lol I might be forced to turn into a Bill Banger for fuck’s sake! Alan Ball wants Bill/Stephen Moyer so bad himself that I bet he keeps him straight bc it boosts his ego. You know the “he/she would want me if only they were [insert appropriate sexual preference]!

      • 101 holby
        April 28, 2010 at 2:13 am

        No, T…Sam would be better than Bill. NEVER a BL!!!! Bite your tongue!!!!

        • 102 T.Rece
          April 28, 2010 at 8:11 am

          haha Holby, in my hysteria I forgot about Sam. Of course ANYBODY would be better than Bill. Although, apparently in Ball’s world Sam will be having homo erotic sex dreams of Bill due to the blood. So, I dunno….damn you Alan Ball!

  19. 103 nerd
    April 27, 2010 at 2:52 am

    interesting.

    well, knowing the character’s past has included dudes it makes sense. and also Laffy having Eric’s blood means that there is a possibility for it to be a dream, too… plus like everyone is saying, that fellow at the mansion. we shall see, yes? i don’t really want to see him going at it hardcore with some guy, though. i’ll admit that much.

  20. April 27, 2010 at 3:11 am

    Can anyone tell me how to put the pics on my profile on this site bc i just cant seem figure it out! Thanks

  21. 106 Dee
    April 27, 2010 at 3:11 am

    Hmmm I am undecided about this, guess depends on how it’s played out. I have no problem with man on man action but not sure how most viewers would be effected by that, not necessarily that they are uncomfortable with homosexuality bc it will be on the show and even S3 with Russell, just wonder if people will feel differently towards Eric, particularly the male audience.

    • 107 T.Rece
      April 27, 2010 at 3:19 am

      See I think you have a good point there. The women will probably be more forgiving in that sense. To alot of guys “bi”=”gay” and there isn’t an in between. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

      • 108 Dee
        April 27, 2010 at 3:36 am

        Hopefully not but I know how some men can act about this. Most guys I know who watch TB love Eric on the show, but I think if it’s done well then might not be a problem. By done well, I mean depending on reason for it happening.

        If it’s not the mansion scene, then I am guessing it’s a flashback.

        • 109 VikingLover
          April 27, 2010 at 3:43 am

          I honestly don’t know many men who would be okay with this in any context – flashback or otherwise. To them Eric would be gay – period. Perhaps the men that watch TB are a bit more open minded though. I mean, they’ve shown Lafayette kissing Eddie and no one seemed to have a problem with that. It may be the same with Eric.

          • April 27, 2010 at 3:54 am

            Not the same though. Lafayette is gay and that has been a known fact since day one.

            • 111 VikingLover
              April 27, 2010 at 4:06 am

              Very true. I don’t know, I guess we’ll just have to see how this all plays out. Perhaps in S3 they’ll make it very clear that for Vampires there is no such thing as straight or gay. Pam is getting a female love interest supposedly (although most men will definitly NOT have a problem with this lol), we’ll see Russell’s mansion, etc. Perhaps by the time it’s Eric’s turn, it will be very clear that what’s happening does not have anything to do with Eric being gay or straight.

              • 112 VikingLover
                April 27, 2010 at 4:08 am

                Actually, now that I think about it, we haven’t seen much in the way of vampire culture. We only got a taste of it for a few episodes in Dallas – mostly because Bill kept Sookie so isolated. In S3 that’s going to change. Sookie will be immersed in all things vampire.

              • 113 MASpencer
                April 27, 2010 at 4:36 am

                I think that’s a really good way to look at it, VL…

          • 114 Dee
            April 27, 2010 at 4:03 am

            Yeah like SVB said, Lafayette has been and is gay since day 1 on the show. It’s weird but people will accept a woman if shes a lesbian or bi, and most will even accept a male gay character on a show, it’s when a guy is bi that I notice people get confused about how they feel. I know many guys who love Lafayette’s character and think he is awesome and are fine with him being gay.

            • 115 Dee
              April 27, 2010 at 4:11 am

              BUT this is why I think it might not be a problem bc i don’t think Eric’s character will necessarily be Bi as in he enjoys both. I think if it happens it’s gonna be for a reason like trying to help rescue Bill and assist Sookie in doing so. Or if it’s a flashback with his maker and he had no choice then again people might understand the circumstances.

          • 116 MASpencer
            April 27, 2010 at 4:35 am

            My husband will just joke that he’s going to steal away my HBO boyfriend. I’ll never hear the end of it, I tell you. LOL.

            • 117 VikingLover
              April 27, 2010 at 4:20 pm

              LOL Tell him to get in line! 🙂 Honestly, I really do think that whatever they do, it will be absolutely fine. It’s just me and my own issues.

    • 118 dsm
      April 27, 2010 at 3:51 am

      Agree this is likely a bigger issue for the male audience than the female audience. Eric is an interesting character because he’s currently a favorite of both men and women who watch the show. If they want to keep that they’ll need to tread carefully.

      That said, AS indicated that from his perspective, every time he’s gotten naked on the show it’s “made sense.” This indicates to me that this scene isn’t just for titillation but actually is integral to the plot or character development in some way. If that’s the case, then I think the audience will come along where the writer take them.

  22. 119 CK
    April 27, 2010 at 3:49 am

    Kristin Bauer just posted this season 3 cast picture on her facebook.

  23. 127 morrissa
    April 27, 2010 at 8:33 am

    The problem, as I see it, is that the show/Alan Ball hasn’t presented much of vampire mythology, thus making this a human issue – which it shouldn’t be. Within the context of the show we ought to perceive Eric as first and foremost a vampire. A vampire is NOT a human. Vampires LOOK human, but aren’t. This has to be stressed much more than it has been to this date.

    I don’t know, maybe it’s because I’ve lived in the Buffy fandom with its ventures into every thinkable line of fanfic for so long that this isn’t a big deal for me, but seriously, Eric is a vampire – and they like sex. Having any kind of sex with another male (vampire, human, were etcetera) does NOT make you gay. It’s just sex. From my point of view, vampires are pansexual until stated otherwise. Simple as that.

    • 128 MASpencer
      April 27, 2010 at 3:44 pm

      I totally agree with this, and I don’t think having a broad sexual repertoire is in any way incongruent with Eric’s characterization.

      After 1,000 years on this planet, I can’t see why ANY vampire would bat an eye over something as “human” as sexual identity. Arbitrary moral arguments about procreation, indecency, etcetera just become that much more irrelevant once a human is turned. So, I’d imagine Eric got over such conservative, wet-blanket biases within the first century. LOL.

      I can’t help but think of the line he gave to Sookie at the “orgy” in LDID: “This little gathering of trash is nothing, nothing, compared to some of the places I have been.”

      HOT!!!!!

      • 129 morrissa
        April 28, 2010 at 7:35 am

        Everyone who writes something fictional about vampires for whatever media, creates their own mythology and sometimes that mythology is elaborate and important, and other times it’s minor and peripheral, but it’s always there and plays a part. I haven’t read the books, so I don’t know how Charlaine handles her vampire mythology. Is it clear or vague?

        But as you said, after a millenia of undead life, who the fuck cares one way or the other? And I doubt very much that Eric the Human had those incredibly narrow views of sexuality we have nowadays, considering he was raised in an environment without any Christian morality whatsoever. Or am I missing something, not having read the books and all?

  24. 130 Tea Cup
    April 27, 2010 at 8:38 am

    Whoa — lots of views on this one huh?! Here’s mine:
    I’m as straight as they come, but I’m also comfortable and respect other lifestyles. BUT, we haven’t even had the extreme pleasure of seeing the Viking in compromising positions with women yet (dream scenes were teasers at best and weren’t even all that satisfying).
    Yea, yea I get it, AB probably has a big, old hard on for AS; but then again, don’t take away from the all-time BEST homosexual on that show — Lafayette is “the man!” — he is one of the best homosexual characters I’ve seen on TV — he pulls it off which just goes to Nelsan’s credit (being straight and all). How about giving Laf a boyfriend, now that’s exactly what would put the crown on that cake! It would be an awesome pairing no matter who is cast, but only if Laf would be the integral part of that relationship — quality vs. quantity always wins out.
    AB needs to hone in all the different directions he’s taking the Viking. He’ll lose Alex’s acting abilities in the mix (the Viking was on air last year for a total of about an hour and a half). There are just so many plots with that damn show and all the alternate universes that AB has created is making heads spin!
    The only reason I’m looking forward to the stripper story is I’m hoping that she’s involved with Hallow — perfect segway to Eric losing his memory!
    Take it slow there AB, we get it and respect it but don’t compromise an impending, endearing “love story” with Eric/Sookie just to insert something else unimportant in there. AB is already walking a fine line with most of the fans. Keep with Lafayette — that’s the money winner there!

  25. 131 ChelleInOz
    April 27, 2010 at 8:47 am

    Hi there SVB and fellow TB worshipers, long time lurker (I feel so dirty) first time commenter. I came upon your blog after trying to assuage my obsession for all things TB (and well AS) having had a frenzied viewing of all the TB eps (seasons 1&2). Just have to say this is the best TB blog on the net, hands down. Lots of thoughtful analysis, hilarious comments and the Viking worship is of course, totally righteous! SVB your posts are wonderful, especially Sunday Skars – I log on every night after work, hoping to see something new. Okay, SVB worship done….

    Now to the question posed in the post re Eric getting it on with another man: I think it was inevitabe that AB had something like this pop up for a vampire storyline and I’m not really surprised its Eric (can you imagine Bill with this storyline? Would he be all suthern genlmen polite about it? I can hear him saying, “I believe I would like to have sexual relations with you”….yikes!) It doesn’t really bother me that its Eric’s character and lets face it, any excuse to see AS naked is a bonus!

  26. April 27, 2010 at 11:40 am

    I’m not sure how I feel about this. If it’s a flashback it’s ok, Laff dream ok, or some variation of Bernard ok.
    Anything else, not ok.

  27. 135 Mia
    April 27, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    No. I don’t want to see a sex scene with Eric and another man; it can be implied like in the books. There are plenty of mysteries that HBO and AB doesn’t have to solve for me.

    Heck I can even do without another Bill/Sookie sex scene where he spews blood in her mouth.

    Maybe I’m still too worn down by the Maenad mess from S2. Graphic is all great and well but sometimes less is so much more.

    [Dusts off her “prude and proud of it” t-shirt and moves on.]

  28. 136 lala
    April 27, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    I’m with the With Godric Only Club. He is amazing looking.

  29. 137 lala
    April 27, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Oh yeah! I forgot about Bernard. That did happen in Club Dead. I can live with the hickie.

  30. 138 Jo
    April 27, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    I really do not want to see Eric with another man, honestly what’s the point? will look for plot or simply a provocation? for me is the same with Yvetta, I hope it is something that contributes to the plot. As much as I like to see Askars naked, I would prefer that your time character was more developed their relationship / friendship with Sookie, much more than simply seeing them in bed together. That sums up all the reasons why I feel increasingly disconnected from the show.
    If it is to see him with another man who is at least one hot and not some fat old guy (I’m still trying to clear my mind of all those orgies)
    I do not want to be with Godric, I think it will cheapen and simplify their relationship, the relationship maker / child of them meant much more than that.

    • 139 Mia
      April 27, 2010 at 8:17 pm

      I agree with you; I wish the writers/directors would focus more on story and character development than on shock value. I didn’t find the S2 orgies vile because of the sex (although orgy 3 could have used a different opening camera angle); it was the whole tone of ugliness surrounding the Maenad storyline to which they contributed: Sookie’s beloved home is destroyed, Tara & Eggs smash up Gran’s room, Gran’s wedding dress is toast, Maxine is beyond hateful, the cannabalism, the townspeople, ugh.

      I feel disconnected from the show too, but that’s because S2 made it such an unpleasant place to visit. They stripped out a lot of the fun and humor from the books and didn’t replace it with anything worthwhile. I’m really hoping S3 gets back on track.

  31. 140 lala
    April 27, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    Jo: if this makes you feel any better, in the books Eric had a sexual relationship with his maker. But I agree with you 100% about the godric + eric relationship being so much more, and so beautifully portrayed on screen.

  32. 141 booksookie
    April 27, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    Hey, guys, I know it might be out of left field, but what if it’s Talbot? Because of the revenge seeking and all… Anyway, I hope it is NOT Godric, I like A. Hyde, but E.’s maker story line in TB is nothing like the way it was introduced in the books and I really don’t see any room left for humping in the “Father, Brother, Son!” hymn… I could go with a Laf.’s wet dream, but I think you’re right: it’s to far ahead in the season for it to be the explanation.

    • 142 pbsTMI
      April 27, 2010 at 5:01 pm

      booksookie: I also wondered if it would be something related to his vengeance, which was the other topic he emphasized in this same interview. Eric seducing Talbot in a plot against Russell? A flashback of Russell perhaps raping a young vampire Eric?

      I would say a Lafayette dream sequence could be a possibility, but dream sex is going to get old…

      Whatever the plot device, I say bring it. It’s definitely not outside of Eric’s character or experience, especially TB Eric. Just think of that scene with him and Lafayette when Eric is releasing him…his words, his voice, the touch, the wink. I think Eric is definitely a lover of women, but the vampire is 1000 years old….jaded doesn’t even begin to describe it.

      I think that Alex knows what to do with Eric, how Eric would handle such a situation. However it plays out, I’m sure we’ll all still love Eric/Alex as much–if not more–than we do now (god, is that even possible?).

  33. 144 ksr
    April 27, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    All day long I took minute here and there to skip my work routine to read your posts.
    I thought about all yours speculations on that matter. And here my own conclusion:
    First of all I have to confess – I’m 100 % heterosexual… and I don’t think about it as one of my inestimable advantages! As a matter of fact sometimes I feel myself as one-legged runner because of it. )))
    I can appreciate beauty of woman body as I can appreciate beauty of Greek statue, but I feel nothing about it… To be honest I even think that woman body in general is more perfect and aesthetically beautiful vs man’s body, but it still doesn’t affect me. What a pity… In my opinion bisexual person have twofold benefits. 😉
    So if there will be ‘very, very graphic’ scene between two women I rather will go to make a cup of tea. Not because it’ll disgusts or offends me somehow, just because I’m not interesting in.
    But two men… especially if one of them AScar… well… remember this scene with queen and Bill (I know, I know, we all hate them! LOL ) “Maybe you have to fuck each other? I can watch!” ))))))) (Not that I’m looking for Bill’s participation, just apt quotation, on the other hand, the idea of ‘Eric screwing Bill’ is really tempting! 😉 )
    So Lafayette, Godric… who else? You are welcome! Unless you are NOT Bill or Sam… sorry guys but there were a lot of you and your sexual games during previous 2 seasons! 😉
    And my last confession (I guess I can take away status of official ‘freak’ after all, sorry Lena 😉 ):
    one of my favorite parts with Eric in S2 is not the scene in bed with Sookie, or her dream where Eric crying … nope… my favorite one is where Lafayette saw him as Tarra’s mum, dressed in that awful anile calico blouse printed with little flowers, holding air-gun in his arm with thin bracelet of gold on his masculine wrist! Really! I think there is no any other scenes in both 1st and 2nd seasons were AScar looks SO sexy! And when he sat down in front of Lafayette, his ironic steel-blue eyes looked directly into us and he said almost in a whisper: “You know what you are feel with my blood inside you? Being a vampire is like that times a million.” I found myself all but licking screen of my TV! Yep! This Is The Man. There is no any circumstances which could level his masculine almost primitive and savage magnetism. His mannish charisma is undestroyable. It is totally incomprehensible but he makes everything work on it. So who really would care about possible man-on-man situation after that? ))))

  34. 145 MASpencer
    May 10, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    OMG. MAJOR spoilers from TV guide: http://www.spoilertv.com/2010/05/true-blood-latest-from-tv-guide.html

    This is must-read material people.

    My guess: That hot gay scene we’re going to get is with Eric and TALBOT. (Ooooh, I feel tingly inside. By far the two sexiest dudes on the show so far– if only they’d throw Alcide into the mix. LOL.)

    This may or may not throw a wrench into the vengeance business we’ve all speculated about. Do we think that this is part of Eric’s retaliation? Or do we think that AB is setting up a scenario similar to what happened with Bernard at Russell’s mansion?

    • 146 sunnynala
      May 10, 2010 at 3:57 pm

      (yes, it’s the one most of you are hoping for)

      Personally, I’m hoping it’s Bill. He’s the one spending all that time in the mansion, plus it’s a different spin on the ‘cheating’ angle from the books.

      I know Eric filmed a graphic scene with a dude, but I was hoping that was flashback to him and Godric.

      • 147 MASpencer
        May 10, 2010 at 4:06 pm

        Nah… I’d bet money it’s Eric.

        And if this doesn’t make it into the season 3 soundtrack, I’ll just die: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmEpgnRGZTI

        LOL!

        • 148 sunnynala
          May 10, 2010 at 4:24 pm

          IDK, for some reason I get a very uncomfortable feeling from this. I think the BL’s will use same-sex sex involving Eric to dismiss him, first of all. Second, I’ll be very sad that my feelings/predictions/whathaveyou about Eric being deeply hetero (while being completely secure in his masculinity)were completely wrong. At the same time, I’ve thought for a while that BILL is a latent (and sometimes not so) homosexual. Why are they throwing ERIC into these (real) situations while Bill will only be shown in Sam’s blood-induced erotic dreams?

          Was I totally wrong about all this? I’m so confused…

          And by the by, why are we getting all of these HUGE spoilerish tidbits about Eric and almost none about Bill? Can we really trust everything we’re being told, even by the actors? (who are under threat of firing if they reveal too much?)

          • 149 MASpencer
            May 10, 2010 at 4:34 pm

            I don’t know. I say wait and see how it all plays out. In the books, Eric fooled around with a man at Russell’s mansion as a diversion to help Sookie in her rescue mission. This may all be playing out that simply.

            Would I prefer it was Bill? In a way, yes, namely because of the potential reaction you describe. But all signs point to Eric, for better or worse.

            For what it’s worth, the spoiler still qualifies Eric as being straight. So I doubt this liason is intended to give viewers pause with respect to Eric’s interest in women. If anything, I suspect this season will see him enthusiastically knocking lots of lady boots just to drive that point home.

            Besides, doesn’t it make more sense that the character with the least rigid sexual identity is also the one who is least likely to be hiding something? Again, I don’t think this is contrary to Eric’s persona, or that it will have him coming off as conventionally gay in any way. But I could be wrong. We’ll see.

            • 150 sunnynala
              May 10, 2010 at 4:40 pm

              Besides, doesn’t it make more sense that the character with the least rigid sexual identity is also the one who is least likely to be hiding something? Again, I don’t think this is contrary to Eric’s persona, or that it will have him coming off as conventionally gay in any way

              You and I see it that way, but I fear a huge majority of the audience will not, being Americans and all. LOL.

              I can hear it now: “Ewww, he’s gay! How can you want him with Sookie?” and on and on like that. Flexible sexual identities and behaviors are, for most people, beyond comprehension and understanding.

              BUT–perhaps AB will use this as a teaching moment.

              • 151 MASpencer
                May 10, 2010 at 4:52 pm

                [BUT–perhaps AB will use this as a teaching moment.]

                I’m thinking this is definitely part of his intention. Unfortunately, I am also a little concerned that it will backfire… but one could argue that those viewers who may react so negatively are kind of missing the point already.

                • 152 sunnynala
                  May 10, 2010 at 5:03 pm

                  Totally agreed on both points–it will backfire in that the majority of the audience may turn against Eric, AND that the ones who will turn against him ARE missing the point–on a lot of things.

                  • May 10, 2010 at 5:36 pm

                    At what point does it become “preaching to the choir”. Is AB capable of walking that fine line? Sometimes you just want mind candy so the rest the world can go away. But not all the time.

                    • 154 VikingLover
                      May 10, 2010 at 6:10 pm

                      Yeah, it’s definitely Eric because of the line “yes, it’s the one you want to see the most”. Grrr. Well you Guys all know how I feel about this. I HATE it. However, I guess it has to be. Yeah, I think it’s the scene where Eric does this as a distraction. Ugh. I’m putting a lot of faith in AB on this one. Oh God, I really hope he doesn’t f***ck up the Viking.

                • 155 VikingLover
                  May 10, 2010 at 6:12 pm

                  It’s not that they’ll miss the point MAS, it’s that this country is VERY puritanical. Hypocritically so, knim? This is my worry.

                • 156 OrientalThorn
                  May 10, 2010 at 6:17 pm

                  It is possible that it will only be a fleeting scene, just like in the book. We don’t see Eric and Bernard getting into it. It was just assumed that that’s what they did. Maybe..?? I don’t know anymore! It is quite unnerving.

                  • 157 VikingLover
                    May 10, 2010 at 6:24 pm

                    OrientalThorn, unfortunately AS has said that he shot a very graphic scene with another man. 😦

                    • 158 OrientalThorn
                      May 10, 2010 at 6:29 pm

                      I know VL! I’m just trying to have selective amnesia! LOL! I still don’t understand why it has to be sexually graphic, sigh… Maybe the sex part is not graphic but the killing part is?? (Can you tell I’m just trying to find a way around this very obvious spoiler?!)

                    • 159 VikingLover
                      May 10, 2010 at 6:34 pm

                      That’s what I’m hoping for too – that he’ll get naked, make out, then he’ll stake him. lol Oh God, please let this be the way it goes down!

          • May 11, 2010 at 12:48 am

            OK, been thinking about this all morning.

            You all know that if there is slash on offer, I’m first in line. I’m dirty like that, LOL.

            I’ve also expressed here on more than one occasion my desire to see said slash featuring Eric.

            But I’m kind of with Sunny here, something about this scene with Talbot in the present day doesn’t sit right with me either and it’s taken me a few hours of kicking around to work out why it’s bugging me.

            Eric did dudes in the books. You all can say it wasn’t voluntary, he did it to help Sookie, he did it because Appius made him…he did it for whatever reason makes you all feel better 😉 But the fact is, Eric did admit to eventually enjoying sex with Appius in DAG, and he did not seem much bothered by what he did with Bernard to get her out of Russell’s, even though Sookie couldn’t bring herself to ask him about it.

            In the books, it is very clear that vampires are sexually experimental. It is very clear that sexual perversity is not something they are concerned with, and sexual orientation does not even rate. There are many bisexual and gay vampires. It is made clear also that Eric has had sex with men. However, Charlaine has been very careful to ensure that we are 100% aware of the fact that his preference is for women generally and Sookie specifically. The fact that even BL’s – who have accused him of practically every sin under the moon – do not accuse him of being gay or even bisexual is testament to how careful CH has been to make sure we ALL understand this about him, and about vampires generally. There is a very clear mythology around Harris’ vampires and this is just one aspect of that.

            I think the problem with TB is that there is a mythology being built, but it’s slow, it’s subtle and as usual alot of people are missing it. The ground rules are very gray and subjective.

            What do we know about vampire sexuality strictly in terms of True Blood? We’ve been told flat out that Bill has mucked around with men – his interaction with Liam and Malcolm, and his wandering out of Merlotte’s with Mack Rattray and his little soiree with the Chicago couple and Lorena to wit. We’ve had Sophie Ann showing an open preference for women and telling Bill he should fuck Eric and let her watch. We’ve had Pam flirting with both women and men. We’ve also been told about Eric having hot sex with very hetro women – Dawn – and possibly bi women in S3 with Yvetta. There are strong homoerotic undertones to his relationship with Lafayette. When you think about it, Jessica is the only vampire really having garden variety hetro sex and I suspect even that will be blown to hell in S3. Anyway, the idea that vampires view sexuality on this show in the same way they do in Charlaine’s books is there.

            But it bothers me that it’s not overt enough yet to stop alot of people being put off by Eric banging a guy because what is NOT as clear on the show is Eric’s love of women (which is just ALL OVER the books). And of course Bill’s boybanging is implied on TB – with Eric it appears they are going to show it and show it graphically. As many people have already indicated that is a whole different can of worms.

            It’s kind of like the function of the blood – this is a vital element of vampire mythology and they are not addressing it well on the show with all this bullshit about E/S having a blood bond in spite of only a one way blood exchange – yet somehow no mention of one between Bill and Sookie who have actually swapped blood repeatedly. This makes absolutely ZERO sense no matter how you want to cook it, and I am starting to suspect that this is because Bill’s specific use of the word “bond” with Sookie in reference to the bulletsucking was actually another one of Bill’s manipulative lies. But that’s a whole new post. Suffice to say that the workings of the blood is another area that needs to be explored more. Mythology is important in stories like this and what is even more important is that viewers/readers understand it.

            • 161 Gigi
              May 11, 2010 at 1:15 am

              I agree completely with you. After 3 seasons, if there is a vampire’s mithology in TB, it’s still very ambigous, subjective and not clear enough to people notice and understand it.

            • 162 MASpencer
              May 11, 2010 at 1:27 am

              Well, I agree with you. But I’ll also add that they cast the Talbot lookalike prostitute that Russell picks up in the 10th episode, and apparently there’s potential for recurring appearances in season 4.

              To me, that pretty clearly indicates that Talbot is dead. (Again, I don’t see this kind of daliance breaking up a 700-years-strong vampire couple.) And I’ll also say– with slightly less confidence, I’ll admit– that I think Eric will be the one who kills Talbot. So if Eric only hooks up with Talbot as a lure to eventually kill him, I don’t think he will come out of this season looking any lighter in the loafers.

              As for his predilection toward women, there are many signs that he most certainly DOES love them– his comment “there will always be women” before his turning, his obvious interest in screwing Yvetta sideways, and the beer wench that we will supposedly be seeing him fondle in a flashback (LOLZ) are all setting him up as quite a ladies’ man. And while I thought initially that these scenes would only make him look like a giant manwhore (a la Jason Stackhouse), I see the purpose it’s serving with a little more clarity now, given the man-on-man scandal that has broken loose in light of recent spoilers.

              Anyway, if some people think that this difference in portrayal makes Bill the more suitable partner for Sookie– in spite of what I suspect will be MANY points raised against him this season– then so be it. But that would be an unfortunate reaction– and one that would suggest that Ball has grossly overestimated his audience’s tolerance for sexual ambiguity.

              Gone are the days, I guess, when gender-bending icons like David Bowie can be considered counter-cultural sex symbols. It’s kind of ironic, when you think about it… vampires have gone awfully mainstream, have they not? LOL.

              • May 11, 2010 at 1:41 am

                As for his predilection toward women, there are many signs that he most certainly DOES love them– his comment “there will always be women” before his turning, his obvious interest in screwing Yvetta sideways, and the beer wench that we will supposedly be seeing him fondle in a flashback (LOLZ) are all setting him up as quite a ladies’ man.

                This is all true, but it’s not quite “loving” women the same way. What we’ve seen in True Blood is that Eric loves women in an overtly sexualised way. Even the flashback to his deathbed was like he was with his buddies in the pub and they were ribbing him about his “sex abilities” and the fact that women fall at his feet.

                Book Eric has the same sexual lust for women, but he also seems to have a fairly healthy respect for them – he genuinely seems to prefer their company to men, both in and out of his bed and he just understands women well. This is at least part of the reason so many women reading these books are all over him. A good example of how they’re playing this differently is the dynamic between him and SA. In the books, Eric respected Sophie Anne, for her ruthlessness, her cunning and her ability to stay one step ahead of the game. There was absolutely ZERO inference of any sexual tension between them. Compare that to the TB relationship – he appears to barely tolerate her and there is some weird sex vibe going on. I dunno, it’s all just different – I guess I also keep forgetting that Book Eric is much more fleshed out than TB Eric at this point.

                • 164 MASpencer
                  May 11, 2010 at 1:57 am

                  I totally see what you mean. But a lot can be revealed between the beginning of season 3 and when this very, very graphic scene takes place.

                  We know that Eric’s vengeance plot has to do with the loss of someone from his human life. We’ve speculated that Russell is the target. We’ve also speculated that Talbot might die as some form of retaliation. (There’s a divided consensus on this, I know… but the whole thing reminds me of the Hot Rain storyline from the books, so I don’t think it’s out of the question.)

                  We’re thinking that Eric might be avenging his father’s death. But I’ve speculated before that maybe it goes further, and that maybe Eric is avenging the death of a human woman he loved (in addition, possibly, to the deaths of his parents and maybe his whole community). That might sound schmaltzy (and maybe it kind of is) but if executed properly, I think it could achieve the effect that we’re all looking for in his character– which is to show that Eric is capable of having genuine love for a woman that goes beyond casual fucking.

                  Naturally, this probably WON’T happen. And I should stop letting my imagination go off on these tangents, as it only leaves me disappointed with the course of events when the season is over. 😦

                  Still, I’m remaining hopeful that this is all hype, and we’re getting bent out of shape over nothing. That seems to be the MO with these things, at least.

              • 165 Gigi
                May 11, 2010 at 5:29 am

                [Anyway, if some people think that this difference in portrayal makes Bill the more suitable partner for Sookie– in spite of what I suspect will be MANY points raised against him this season– then so be it. But that would be an unfortunate reaction– and one that would suggest that Ball has grossly overestimated his audience’s tolerance for sexual ambiguity.
                Gone are the days, I guess, when gender-bending icons like David Bowie can be considered counter-cultural sex symbols. It’s kind of ironic, when you think about it… vampires have gone awfully mainstream, have they not? LOL.]

                In my case (I can only speak for myself) it isn’t a matter of if Eric is sexually ambigous or not. The reason why it’s bugging me has more to do with the fact that Laffayette, being the first human gay character in the show, never has been exposed to make an explicit sexual scene with another man during two whole seasons. Why Eric now? Because he is a vampire? Moreso, what are the motives behind it and the context how it will be framed? Revenge? To save Sookie? Just because he’s under the vampire lust?

                That is what really worries me, besides the fact that his portrayal is sending the ambigous message that he has a “Don Juan” personality. As SVB said, to like women, love a woman and love women in a sexualized way aren’t the same. Because a “Don Juan” is attentive, interested, curious and makes women feel special. Is a seducer who is addicted to the “power” he feels (when he achieves the conquest) because each sexual conquest gives him a temporary “high”. He is also addicted to the chase and challenge and is often in touch with women’s feelings, and can adeptly manipulate those feelings to his advantage, expressing empathy (for example) to a woman’s personal problems, and let the woman vent her feelings (so once she feels comfortable and relaxed with him, he’ll make his move). He likes to flirt with friends’ women or known men’s women because it adds more challenge and thrill to the sexual conquest. And the reason for his low self-esteem is based on problems in the relationship with his father figure which makes him insecure about who he is. Now, in TB, Eric flashbacks with his father, as is written in the casting call, will show there is some tension between between father and son because Ulfrick wants Eric to learn responsibility and behave in a manner befitting royalty. And if you ask me, with the description of him as a narcissit, with this comment on the casting call, with his: “Don’t use words I don’t understand” in reference to love, and his: “Can you give me Sookie Stackhouse?” to Sam as if she were an object, I have been felt as if I had been kicked in the ass (excuse my french…). It might not be like this, but they are making it to look ambiguos intentionally. So actually THIS personality ambiguity is the kind of ambiguity that really bothers me, not the sexual ambiguity of the vampires.

                • 166 MASpencer
                  May 11, 2010 at 7:08 am

                  Do most pathological womanizers have issues with their father figure? I guess I always assumed it was a mommy issue… i.e. acting out to gain passive control over women in an effort to make up for a lack of autonomy they felt as children living with an overbearing, dismissive, narcissistic mother. Thus, in treating women as conquests, they are simultaneously meeting their need for both feminine approval and retaliation.

                  Likewise, I’ve found that sexually promiscuous women often have issues with abusive, neglectful, or absent fathers– and that they waffle between desperately needing their father’s acceptance and wanting to victimize him in kind, which leaves their partners occupying one projected role or the other, depending on the situation.

                  Anyway, awesome shrink-talk aside, I see your concerns… but I’m not convinced yet that Eric is going to be portrayed as a hopeless Casanova. I suspect (well, HOPE) we’ll learn that a lot of his off-color statements were just put on as a self-protective defense mechanism he adopted in response to his own losses, as well as his ongoing efforts to survive as a vampire.

                  Losing Godric last season was a major event, and while we may not have seen Eric crying into his beer in front of Sam, I would be surprised if he didn’t betray some of his vulnerability to Sookie early on in the season. If not, I will join you in being sorely disappointed.

                  And finally, you are totally right. If Eric gets a full-on, present-day gay sex scene before any of the already established gay characters do, it would be pretty ridiculous. So I’m guessing that they’re either going to blaze that trail with Lafayette and Jesus beforehand… or Eric’s scene isn’t going to be nearly as raunchy as all of us are thinking.

                  Hopefully a little bit of both. LOL.

                  • 167 Gigi
                    May 11, 2010 at 10:30 am

                    [Do most pathological womanizers have issues with their father figure? I guess I always assumed it was a mommy issue… i.e. acting out to gain passive control over women in an effort to make up for a lack of autonomy they felt as children living with an overbearing, dismissive, narcissistic mother. Thus, in treating women as conquests, they are simultaneously meeting their need for both feminine approval and retaliation.]

                    No, not all have issues with the father figure. You can find also this type of womanizer, but he’s more asociated with the passive-aggressive characteristic that you would find in the compensatory narcissistic type. But when you talk about the Don Juan type, based on the psychoanalitic theory (which is the one that has studied and analyzed more deeply and devotedly his personality), we are talking about an unresolved Oedipus complex where the many women whom he must always replace anew represent to him the one irreplaceable “mother”, and that the rivals and adversaries whom he deceives, defrauds, struggles against, and finally even kills represent the one unconquerable enemy, “the father”. While no psychoanalyst has ever suggested that Don Juan is a psychopath, his analysis fits the current psychoanalitic thinking about the psychology of psychopaths, because the psychopath spends his life recreating the oedipal struggle of the little boy who hopes to overcome his father, and modern psychoanalysts understand the psychopathy as representing an inmature stage in psychological development, that includes strong narcissism and an a weak superego (that explains the poor control of impulses). There has been other attempts to explain the Don Juan’s behavior, like the ones that suggest he is a feminine character because he lies, and lie isn’t consider to be a masculine trait (calling him an homosexual or “neutral”). But those are merely speculations because they lack of scientific evidence and are only based on the subjective idea which says that only women are liars… 🙄 I think you can understand better my concern after reading this.

                    But shrink-talk aside again LOL, like I said above, it might not be like this, but they are making it to look ambiguos intentionally. So I hope like you that they show in him some different traits SOON and also really hope to be wrong (because I love Eric -and I also would like to think that my work is filling my head with too much shit HAHHAHAHAHHA 😛 ).

                    • 168 MASpencer
                      May 11, 2010 at 3:53 pm

                      I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE reading your posts, Gigi! And yes, the Daddy issues totally make more sense in an Oedipal context, if we view womanizing as a form of violence against “the father.” (Which it totally is, if every man is viewed as competition and every woman as the prize.) Although, I’d imagine having an overbearing mother would aggravate that inclination for some men– while serving the opposite purpose of completely castrating others.

                      Anyway, I cannot wait to hear your feedback on Eric’s background next season! It sounds like it’s going to be a psychological goldmine… and hopefully one that casts him in a much more sympathetic light. Fingers crossed…

            • 169 Serena
              May 11, 2010 at 1:46 am

              Agreed. This is yet another reason to be pissed at S2’s ending and Mary Ann’s BS, we didn’t get to see Eric’s sexual openness or his willingness to bat for the other team to help out Sookie. Way to suck, Ball.

    • 170 Dee
      May 10, 2010 at 5:02 pm

      ahhhh I think it is Eric because I wondered if Eric will get revenge by killing Talbot and then remembered the fact that Eric gets intimate with a man. So I think that maybe he seduces Talbot and kills him in the act.

      • 171 MASpencer
        May 10, 2010 at 6:18 pm

        I don’t know… but I’m dying to know what the context is here. While the idea of Eric sleeping with Russell’s boyfriend to get back at him makes me laugh– it’s like a bad episode of Melrose Place!– I’m sure that there will be more to it.

        Like you mention, maybe the idea is to kill Talbot, and Eric merely seduces him in order to get him where he wants him. The casting call with Russell on the prowl for a replacement isn’t as clear now– is Talbot dead, or is Russell just pissed off that he cheated? (I’m still going with door number 1– infidelity seems like a silly thing for a vampire couple to come apart over, especially after a 700 year relationship.)

        This also puts the term “very graphic” that AS used in a slightly new light. I suspect that the scene will be both sexually graphic and violent… and that Eric will turn on Talbot and rip him apart in the middle of what was shaping up to be a sex scene.

        But if so, the question still remains: Why is Talbot the target, and not Russell himself? An eye for an eye… I still think that this might be payback for Russell murdering Eric’s parents, and quite possibly a human lover of his, too.

        • 172 VikingLover
          May 10, 2010 at 6:28 pm

          I doubt it’s cheating MAS. I think it’s just the wording used to throw us. I’m sure it’s the distraction scene from the books and somehow Eric has to end up killing Talbot in order for them to escape. Maybe Eric does kill him during that scene (I hope) and that’s what they mean by graphic. Although AS was talking about being naked so maybe not.

          • 173 MASpencer
            May 10, 2010 at 6:33 pm

            I don’t know. I think it might actually be cheating… mostly because, if Eric has an old bone to pick with Russell, Russell would most definitely recognize him from the get-go. That’s why I don’t think we’re necessarily going to get the staking scene in the mansion.

            Dee mentioned that maybe Talbot sneaks off to Club Dead, and that’s where Eric approaches him. This makes sense, especially since it would all be happening behind Russell’s back– who would no doubt know what Eric was up to if he saw it going down for himself.

            Again, I think Eric lures Talbot with sex and then kills him. Russell finds out and goes apeshit. Eric proceeds to prepare a will because it’s only matter of time before he’s identified as the killer.

            • 174 VikingLover
              May 10, 2010 at 6:37 pm

              [Again, I think Eric lures Talbot with sex and then kills him. Russell finds out and goes apeshit. Eric proceeds to prepare a will because it’s only matter of time before he’s identified as the killer]

              This is what I’m hoping for. The only thing is that didn’t spoilertv say something about him (Talbot) shooting some more (love) scenes??

              • 175 MASpencer
                May 10, 2010 at 6:48 pm

                I don’t think so, unless it was a different post. This post said that we’ll also get another straight-men-go-gay pairing early in the season– but I think that was a reference to dirty Sam/Bill dreams.

                • 176 VikingLover
                  May 10, 2010 at 6:51 pm

                  Yes, but at the end it states something about the actor worried about putting on weight from some upcoming love scenes he’s yet to shoot.

                  • 177 MASpencer
                    May 10, 2010 at 6:55 pm

                    Yes, now I see. No idea about that. But they might not even be referring to love scenes in THIS show. I’d imagine by now True Blood is already filming the last couple of episodes– and I’d be surprised if he went back home to Greece before his own shooting was complete.

                  • 178 sunnynala
                    May 10, 2010 at 7:01 pm

                    They most likely shoot those scenes out of sequence. For all we know he’s already shot a death scene and is coming back to shoot some sex scenes that occur earlier in the ep, or maybe even in an earlier ep altogether. (as an aside, I have no idea how TB shoots, but I doubt it’s sequential. Besides the convenience factor, ie time of day or location availability and so forth) Shooting out of sequence also serves to keep the actors somewhat in the dark as to how the story is actually unfolding.

                  • 179 MASpencer
                    May 10, 2010 at 7:03 pm

                    Oh, and if they ARE love scenes for this show, they could be flashbacks, too. Russell specifically targets a man that looks like Talbot– and I wouldn’t be suprised if we saw Talbot spliced into any grief-driven sexual encounters he may have in later episodes, much like Eric was in Lafayette’s PTSD hallucinations.

                    • 180 VikingLover
                      May 10, 2010 at 7:09 pm

                      Yes, you guys are right. They often shoot these things out of sequence. This has to be the case because it seems to me that Talbot does indeed die. Okay, then I feel better about the “sex” scene. lol

                    • 181 sunnynala
                      May 10, 2010 at 7:15 pm

                      True! I really hope they are. I can deal with Eric having sex with a man in the distant past or in a dream. I’d be willing to bet money at least one same-sex scene will be Laffy dreaming of Eric.

                      As an side, hell I would love to see Theo and ALEX in some slasher porn. Wooooweeee!!

        • 182 Dee
          May 10, 2010 at 6:53 pm

          Exactly! I think it will be sexual and violent and if it’s done this way then I think most of the viewers can accept it.

          Yes, we were talking about this in the synopsis thread. If Russell killed someone Eric cared for then Eric will kill someone Russell cares for. Also, probably easier to get to Talbot than Russell who probably is pretty protected. Im sure Talbot is too but if he gets upset and goes out on his own without Russell knowing, then can explain how he has no protection.

          • 183 VikingLover
            May 10, 2010 at 7:12 pm

            [Im sure Talbot is too but if he gets upset and goes out on his own without Russell knowing, then can explain how he has no protection.]

            Yes, this makes the most sense and the only person that knows what Sookie looks like is Lorena. I have a feeling that Lorena sent the Weres to kill Sookie without Russell’s knowledge. I don’t think Russell gives a poop about Sookie – Bill must have some interesting info about the Queen.

      • 184 Gigi
        May 10, 2010 at 7:35 pm

        I don’t know Dee, if this were the scenario, it will be worst for Eric’s image because at least, if he makes it to save Sookie, it could be understand as a “reasonable” excuse. They have been saying that this next season Eric path will be one of vengeance. But vengeance doesn’t born from justice. It’s in itself a very willful act full of hate with the sadistic purpose to inflict of injury, harm or humiliation someone to gain satisfaction, and it shows the lack of values and control as it reflects how the most negative and darker side of a person (vampires are in fact “dead” persons) is taking complete control of him, no matter the reason who triggered it. It’s an outburst of uncontrollable rage and violence of its own, that rise like a windstorm and sweep away all humanity, intelligence and common sense. It isn’t the same as punishment, in the sense that when you want someone to be punish, you want that person to receive what is fair for whatever the actions he/she made, and to learn that his/her acts have consecuences that have to be paid to the justice. And THIS is what we, Eric fans, have been holding against Bill during all these years of reading the SVM, because this is in fact a trait from Bill’s personality. And I know that some will argue (like with the torture dungeon) that he was a viking and justice were different then, that they like it because it shows a different Eric, that vampires have a different moral code, blah blah. But at the end it only shows, that in TB, Eric is the living dead example of what Godric told to him: that vampires have evolved to become more brutal and more predatory, and that he feared for vampires and humans if that behavior persists. Because he hadn’t evolved, he hadn’t grow in a 1000 years, and Godric’s speech to him was swept and hidden below the rug. I’m sorry, I truly am, because this isn’t Eric. Eric, the Viking I know from the books, has a code of honor, and there’s no honor in torture and revenge. And I don’t really care if they change him later, because the damage to his image it’s done and once shown, it can’t be taken away later.

        • 185 sunnynala
          May 10, 2010 at 7:53 pm

          Gigi, I agree with every word you’ve written here, wholeheartedly. Justice and vengeance are two different things. I have criticized Bill for seeking vengeance against Uncle Bartlett and my judgement of him still stands.

          However, for several reason I think Eric will be redeemed of the Royce killing. (his only TB kill to date).

          There are several ways they can do this and of course I have a theory, which is something of a stretch but not impossible or out of the question.

          I’ll save the theory for a later date, but even morally Eric can be redeemed. He IS the sheriff after all and sees his job as mainly protecting vampires from the cruel and bloodthirsty human world. Royce killed three of his kind (plus a human where UB had killed no one. UB was also deeply sorry for what he had done to her as Sookie knew from reading him at the funeral. She never should have let Bill get away with that but she allowed her silly school girl fantasy to wipe it from her mind) and Eric knew this or Royce wouldn’t have been there in the first place. I think he meant to kill him, he planned to kill him as punishment and to send a message to the human world: “do NOT mess with us or you will disappear.” Therefore, it was a methodical meting out of justice.

          The WAY in which he killed Royce was also planned. Do we really think a little thing like a silver cross hurt Eric so badly that he killed over it? No. The manner in which the killing occurred was theatre, a show to send a message to Laffy: “talk or this is what could happen to you”. Not that he would, or ever meant to kill Laffy. His threats were empty but Laffy sure as HELL didn’t know that. Mind games, psychological warfare, Sun Tzu…a tactic to not only get the information he needed but to assess Lafayettes character and survival instinct. Judging by the fact that Eric later gave him his blood and formed a bond, I’d say Laffy passed Eric’s test of his mettle.

          • 186 VikingLover
            May 10, 2010 at 8:12 pm

            The reality is that no one, other than the BL’s, seem to care that Eric killed Royce. It was Vamp justice in eyes – he is the sheriff. But that being said, Eric’s popularity has sky rocketed. He’s all anyone can seem to talk about now when it comes to TB. I don’t think that scene hurt his character because I think all the future scenes eradicated it.

        • 187 MASpencer
          May 10, 2010 at 8:07 pm

          I agree Gigi– there’s a big difference between justice and vengeance.

          But spoilers have made it pretty clear that Eric is avenging someone this season, for better or worse. I think the nature of those someones is going to make all the difference in how viewers react to it. If we see Talbot and Russell carrying out horrible atrocities via flashback, I don’t think we’re going to feel too bad. Especially since there would be no court in which to try either of them, since presumably the crimes were against humans (from 1,000 years ago, no less) and not vampires.

          Still, we could be treading some seriously dubious ground where morality is concerned. Then again, maybe the “moral anarchy” comment from the promo is with regard to someone deciding that the murder of a human was wrong– and seeking justice for it– even though the vampire code doesn’t recognize it as a crime? And that someone might be Eric?

          • 188 VikingLover
            May 10, 2010 at 8:18 pm

            {But spoilers have made it pretty clear that Eric is avenging someone this season, for better or worse.}

            Apparently he is avenging his father. Placed in that context, people will understand.

  35. May 10, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    VL, I am so with you on that. Some things are just too hard to see, hear or even think about….must find my happy place.

  36. 190 VikingLover
    May 10, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    [For what it’s worth, the spoiler still qualifies Eric as being straight. So I doubt this liason is intended to give viewers pause with respect to Eric’s interest in women. If anything, I suspect this season will see him enthusiastically knocking lots of lady boots just to drive that point home.]

    It doesn’t matter. As soon as he starts knocking boots with a dude in a “graphic” sex scene he’ll be gay in the eyes of the viewers. This is my worry. I really hate this. WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS??? I’m about to start ranting again. *breaths* Well, at least Spoiler.Tv discusses it in a very nonchalant way. Plus now viewers will be prepared and they’ll have time to discuss it and have an opinion about it. Maybe it won’t be so shocking now. I HATE THIS!

    • May 10, 2010 at 6:29 pm

      Perhaps we are being fed spoilers to illustrate AB’s point of don’t believe everything you hear.
      I may be grasping at straws.

      • 192 VikingLover
        May 10, 2010 at 6:31 pm

        This is what I’m hoping, Bobsgran.

      • 193 sunnynala
        May 10, 2010 at 6:36 pm

        Honestly, I take nearly all these spoilers with a grain of salt.

        Who could have guessed from the spoilers last year everything that was going to happen in s2? I wasn’t ‘in’ the fandom at the time, but my guess is nobody had a clue how it would actually go and many of the details people thought they knew turned out false. I’ve also heard that AB was caught in several lies in retrospect, and didn’t a lot of people expect Eric and Laffy to get it on in s2?

        • 194 sunnynala
          May 10, 2010 at 6:47 pm

          And look, I’ll just be honest here and take my lumps.

          I’ll preface this by saying I’m just like Sophie-Anee–I LOVE watching two men together. (in PORN, I’ve never seen it live lol)I am probably THE most liberal person you could think of and I am ALL for gay rights.

          BUT–if I know a man is into sex with other men then he is NOT a man I want to have sex with. Not because of AIDS (plus, I should qualify this by saying I’m married and wouldn’t do it anyway. I’m talking about sexual fantasies here) but because I like a straight up ALPHA male, in my bed and in my fantasies. Alpha males–of the category I am attracted to, ie natural leaders, not domineering bullies–do not engage in sex with other men. Alpha males ADORE women in their beds and only women. They love everything about women, they love their smell and taste and feel. In my fantasies and with my husband, I NEED to believe that my womanliness, my FEMALESNESS is what he wants and most desires.

          What I am trying to say here, very very sadly and regretfully and somewhat shamefully, is that I fear I will lose the fantasy factor with Eric if he sleeps with a man. I won’t suddenly hate him, far from it. I’ll still love him and be fascinated by him but the sexual tension between him and Sookie will be lost for me, I’m afraid.

          Maybe I’m old and old fashioned in this regard, but that’s just me.

          • 195 sunnynala
            May 10, 2010 at 6:54 pm

            Sorry to keep harping, BUT—

            If this is a diversionary type scene of the sort that is in the books, I have to ask: Couldn’t Eric the Viking Warrior think of a better tactic? I mean, come on! Hopefully by this point he’s full on lusting for Sookie. Him having dirty sex with someone else, ANYONE ELSE of either sex for any reason, under the same roof as Sookie just skeeves me out and pisses me off.

            • 196 VikingLover
              May 10, 2010 at 7:02 pm

              No it wasn’t like how you’re thinking Sunny. It made sense in the context of the novel and he had to do it because Sookie had been wounded and Eric needed to get back into the mansion before dawn in order to give Sookie a means of escape and rescue for Bill. He brought back a car for her. It’s a long story but it made sense and we were never told explicitly what happened. It was only hinted at. Also, when you read the book it comes across much differently – you don’t have the same sense of this as you do when you watch something on TV. I can’t explain it but it’s just clear that vampires have no taboo about this type of stuff.

          • 197 VikingLover
            May 10, 2010 at 6:56 pm

            No, you’re not old fashioned Sunny and that is nothing to be ashamed of. This is how it is for many women – including me. It’s realistic. This is why I’m worried! But AB MUST be aware of this so I doubt it will be as “bad” as we think it will be. He knows that he’ll be in danger of Eric losing his sex appeal. I have a feeling that we will not see a graphic sex scene – it will be a murder scene. Sunny, how would you feel if Eric were naked, they kissed, then he staked Talbot? Would the sex appeal still be gone for you?

            • 198 MASpencer
              May 10, 2010 at 7:00 pm

              [Sunny, how would you feel if Eric were naked, they kissed, then he staked Talbot? Would the sex appeal still be gone for you?]

              I hope not, because I’m pretty sure this (or some variation thereof) is exactly what’s going to happen.

              • 199 Jo
                May 10, 2010 at 7:14 pm

                hope it’s not either of them, would be very lame Eric to have sex with another man for revenge, but to kill him during sex? would be ridiculous! not to mention that I would lose respect for Eric. And I do not see Eric having sex with another man, just because it’s HBO, it’s cheap and it’s ridiculous. But I do not doubt anything else on that show.

                • 200 VikingLover
                  May 10, 2010 at 7:27 pm

                  Well but Jo, Eric did have sex with Bernard in the books as well as his Maker and other men. I don’t think he’ll kill Talbot for vengeance because that doesn’t sound like something TB Eric would do but I do think he might kill him because he has no choice (for whatever reason).

                  • 201 VikingLover
                    May 10, 2010 at 7:28 pm

                    Oh and Jo, I’m with you – I definitely DO NOT want to see it and hope they don’t show it.

                • 202 Dee
                  May 10, 2010 at 8:08 pm

                  The only thing is that it seems from an interview with AS, he will have a sexual scene with a man. So most likely happens, now just have to figure out how. Doubt it’s going to be just because he wants to. So either it is vengeance or he does it to help Sookie and save her. I was hoping for vengeance because then it wont go far, they will briefly fool around and thats all. Now while I love him helping Sookie out, if it is because of this then it will go a lot further between Talbot and Eric. I guess he can fool around with Talbot as Sookie looks around the house for Bill.

              • 203 Dee
                May 10, 2010 at 7:19 pm

                I would be fine if that is what happens. I don’t know why I’m gonna compare it to this but guess because I saw the movie recently. In The Prophet, one character in the movie had to invite a guy into his jail cell and pretended he wanted to have sex with him, he acts like he is interested since the guy had hit on him before and gets on his knees, but then he quickly gets up and stabs him in the neck. Most guys I know who saw this movie loved it and didn’t change their opinion of that character at all, infact they thought he was great. It’s not something the guy wanted to do but he HAD to kill this guy and you know he is not gay and it was the only way to get close enough to kill him.

                If it’s shown this way then I think it will be fine. We don’t know how far they will go, and they might even show that Eric is not enjoying this at all. If the purpose is just to kill him with no interest at all, then can’t hold it against his character.

                Also, most TB viewers are pretty open I would think for the most part. We’ve already seen lots of sex, orgies, men kissing, etc

                • 204 MASpencer
                  May 10, 2010 at 7:28 pm

                  This is totally how I see it. Eric will lure Talbot with the promise of sex– and because it’s not TV, it’s HBO, and the TB-viewing populace is a bunch of pervs (LOL), the scene probably won’t leave much to the imagination, where either body parts OR blood are concerned.

                  But ultimately, I think Eric’s motives are going to be crystal clear. If we should be worrying about anything, I don’t think it’s that we’ll see Eric swapping spit with Talbot… instead, we should be worried about the possibility of Eric coming across as a vindictive asshole.

                  If Talbot is even remotely sympathetic as a character, the viewership will totally hold his murder over Eric’s head. So I’m hoping that, as likeable as he may end up being, we’re given lots of reasons to “justify” his death. (Assuming I’m not TOTALLY wrong in my assessment of these spoilers, of course.)

                  • 205 VikingLover
                    May 10, 2010 at 7:43 pm

                    I doubt Talbot will be shown as a “nice” guy – remember that they have kidnapped Bill and kept him as a hostage. And I doubt that Eric will kill Talbot out of vengeance – just doesn’t jive with what we have been shown of the Eric character so far. I could be wrong though but somehow I think S3 will show Eric in a “good” light, not a bad one. He’s only killed one guy on the show and that was a murderer who attacked him. He did keep Laf prisoner, but again, it was because Laf broke the law. I don’t know. I think that if he kills Talbot it will be in self defense or to save Bill and Sookie. This is my hope anyway.

            • 206 sunnynala
              May 10, 2010 at 7:08 pm

              I would be perfectly fine with that and shall beg the powers that be to let it be so. LOL.

              And thanks for the book explanation. However, I still don’t want Eric sleeping with someone while Sookie’s under the same roof.

              Damn, I’m starting to sound like a crazed shipper. LOL.

              • 207 VikingLover
                May 10, 2010 at 7:17 pm

                {I still don’t want Eric sleeping with someone while Sookie’s under the same roof. Damn, I’m starting to sound like a crazed shipper. LOL.}

                Yay, welcome to my world!!! 🙂 No really though, when you read the book you really understand it and you don’t mind. It almost doesn’t even register that’s how inconsequential it is.

      • 209 ancientpythoness
        May 11, 2010 at 3:18 am

        I don’t think they will show anything more graphic than we’ve already seen, and so far TB has been fairly circumspect when it comes to gay sex. Over the course of the series, AB will probably take it further, but he is not going to plow that territory with Eric.

    • 210 VikingLover
      May 10, 2010 at 6:35 pm

      Oh wait no, Talbot can’t be dead because he’s obviously still shooting scense. I’m confused.

  37. 211 Dee
    May 10, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    “And here’s a big gay bonus: A scene early in the season will reveal two of the four straight characters making out—with each other!”

    so I guess we’re definitely going to see a Bill/Sam, erotic dream

    also from the interview, Theo(Talbot) says Russell just wants him to stay home and this upsets him. I wonder if Talbot gets upset and goes to club dead without Russell and that’s where Eric see’s him and approaches him.

    • 212 VikingLover
      May 10, 2010 at 6:30 pm

      Ah good point Dee! So maybe that’s how they (Eric and Sookie) get into the house. Maybe Sookie gets staked inside of the mansion as opposed to in CD.

      • May 10, 2010 at 6:39 pm

        I’ll go with that VL. Some of the spoilers coming out, I’m certain are simply to get people talking and speculating obviously. But it sure can be a hellofa roller coaster ride.

      • 214 MASpencer
        May 10, 2010 at 6:44 pm

        I hate to say it, but I’m not sure we’ll be getting the staking scene at all… and if we do, it probably won’t be the same as the books. Again, I think Russell would recognize Eric right off the bat, so we won’t have him invited into the mansion with Sookie unless it’s by Talbot, unbeknownst to Russell. (Talbot has only been with Russell 700 years– whenever Eric encountered Russell, I’m going to say that it was sometime before that, such that Talbot wouldn’t know anything about their history.)

        Also, I very much doubt that Talbot is taking the place of Bernard, because at the point at which this scene was being shot, we had already seen Sookie in the hospital with bite marks. They could be shooting out of sequence… but I rather suspect that this tryst with Talbot is going to be something that Eric does on his own, and that it will be related to his vengeance somehow.

        • 215 VikingLover
          May 10, 2010 at 6:50 pm

          {so we won’t have him invited into the mansion with Sookie unless it’s by Talbot, unbeknownst to Russell.}

          I think this is how it’s going to go down. That’s how Eric and Sookie get in the house maybe.

        • 216 Dee
          May 10, 2010 at 6:58 pm

          I agree with you, because I don’t think Eric can go to the mansion. I can be wrong but seems like Eric and Russell know eachother so he would recognize him right away. If he knows eric then he obviously knows he is the sheriff of area 5 and they are holding Bill captive so Eric cant even pretend he is in Jackson just visiting.

          If the staking AND even healing does happen, then I think AB will completely change around how it happens.

      • 217 sunnynala
        May 10, 2010 at 7:20 pm

        OK wait. OMFG. This could be EPIC!!!

        Eric, being seductive. Seducing the absolutely stunningly beautiful Talbot into letting them into the mansion.

        Nothing has to happen, just the flirtation and Eric being fucking hot as hell seductive.

        I came.

  38. 220 Dee
    May 10, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    Sorry, forgot to say I agree with you Maspencer. Also, not sure if Talbot can bring Eric back to the mansion. For one, I am sure the mansion is highly guarded so Russell will be alerted if Talbot brought back home another man and I don’t think Talbot will bring home if he is cheating on Russell.

    ALSO, now that I think about it, I don’t even know how they can bring Sookie back to the mansion. Lorena is there and on the show Lorena has already met Sookie so she would recognize her right away. I am real curious how this will play out now if Russell would recognize Eric and Lorena would recognize Sookie and even Eric. Definitely can’t play out like the book, E/S can’t go into the mansion anonymously.

    • 221 MASpencer
      May 10, 2010 at 7:07 pm

      You’re right. It’s totally impossible, given the former acquaintance established between all of the characters involved at this point.

      So I stand by my guess that it probably won’t happen. 😦

      Oh well. Maybe they’ll come up with a substitute scene that’s just as good… or better.

      • 222 sunnynala
        May 10, 2010 at 7:24 pm

        No you guys!! Eric will find a way!

        Talbot HAS to get them into the mansion. Maybe he has “allies” among the guards who help him keep little white secrets from the King. Maybe they can be bribed.

        I’m sure the mansion is large enough that they can slip in without Lorena seeing them. With Bill there I doubt she will be focused on Talbot’s comings and goings.

        • 223 VikingLover
          May 10, 2010 at 7:36 pm

          Yes, this is what I’m thinking too, Sunny. Also, in the books Bill wasn’t kept in the main house – he was being kept out back in one of the stables.

        • 224 MASpencer
          May 10, 2010 at 7:42 pm

          This COULD be… I get the feeling that Talbot probably cheats a lot. Or Russell and Talbot could have an “understanding,” which would make him showing up with another man while Russell’s away not so shocking.

          But I still have my doubts, as this graphic scene was very recently shot, and Sookie would already be hospitalized by now. True, it could be shot out of sequence… but from the on-set phot’s we’ve seen (the hospital business, AP at the aquarium) it seems like the shooting for each episode starts not long after each casting call is released. And the filming seems to be happening fairly sequentially.

          And also, while it would make sense that Talbot would invite Eric in, I don’t see why he would sneak Sookie in, too. Especially not if she’s been injured. Too much mess and fuss. In short: I REALLY don’t think we’re going to get the staking and healing scene at the mansion. I still say that the only one who will be getting staked at that mansion is Talbot.

          • 225 MASpencer
            May 10, 2010 at 7:42 pm

            sorry, *PHOTOS*

            • 226 VikingLover
              May 10, 2010 at 7:53 pm

              {And also, while it would make sense that Talbot would invite Eric in, I don’t see why he would sneak Sookie in, too.}

              She’s probably there as “dinner”. Or maybe Eric sneaks her in afterward.

              • 227 MASpencer
                May 10, 2010 at 8:10 pm

                Well, I like it. I just have my doubts…

                • 228 VikingLover
                  May 10, 2010 at 8:24 pm

                  Have your doubts about Sookie being in the mansion?

                  • 229 MASpencer
                    May 10, 2010 at 8:49 pm

                    Yes. Precisely. Mostly because I think Lorena, Russell, and Talbot will know all about Sookie– who she is to Bill and what she looks like. Without the cover of anonymity, the plausibility factor is a little lower. So if Sookie ends up in the mansion somehow, the joke might be on her.

                    On the other hand, Bill has to escape SOMEHOW… but I was beginning to wonder whether Lorena won’t end up doing the honors.

                    • 230 sunnynala
                      May 10, 2010 at 8:52 pm

                      That’s true, it’s entirely possible that Lorena will let him go.

                      And you know I agree with you. Russell knows about Sookie and Lorena knows what she looks like. They’re bound to be after her. To kill her or use her as leverege, it doesn’t really matter. Either way, Sookie’s in danger and it’s all because of Bill.

                    • 231 Dee
                      May 10, 2010 at 8:59 pm

                      Very true, even if Sookie doesn’t bump into Lorena in the mansion doesn’t matter. Lorena, had to have told them all about Sookie. So if she goes to the mansion then that is bad news for Sookie because it will all be a trick to get her there.

                      I’ve been wondering the same thing ever since I read the interview with marianna. She does say she will surprise viewers and have pity. So maybe she lets Bill go or helps him out in some way.

                      It’s hard because now that Lorena met Sookie and obviously knows Eric, this eliminates alot of what happens. But we do know she goes to Club dead, I wonder if she will have to use a fake name and maybe gets into trouble if any of Russell’s entourage is there, or even the were’s that work for him. Unlike the books, the were’s will probably also know her identity. Now she might not get staked but how the hell does she get the bite marks on her neck and ends up in the hospital? I guess this is why we’ve had so many spoilers, it still doesn’t tell us everything. Infact confuses things a bit

                    • 232 VikingLover
                      May 10, 2010 at 9:03 pm

                      Maybe Sookie doesn’t go in willingly, maybe she is also taken prisoner. And Dee, I agree – I think the spoilers are all a mind f***k to keep us guessing and speculating. I have a feeling that none of this is going to pan out the way we’ve been theorizing.

                    • 233 Serena
                      May 10, 2010 at 9:59 pm

                      Do you guys think Sookie will kill Lorena? Cause I always felt that Sookie was only able to kill her at all was because of Eric’s blood. So she needs that scene.. not to mention we need that scene, its the best scene in the book and I hope we get something that resembles it. Or else I’m sending AB some dead fish in the mail.

          • 234 Dee
            May 10, 2010 at 7:57 pm

            Very good point! why would he also invite Sookie in. And if she has been staked then Sookie would cause more of a scene. For one if they pull out the stake she is going to scream so kinda hard to keep their presence in the mansion in the secret. Also, dont know if Talbot and Eric will be the ones pulling the stake out, can happen but she needs somebody a bit more experienced like it happened in the book, plus I would hope they can give her pain killers too, seems like a lot of commotion. Even if Talbot can sneak people in, will be hard with someone who is injured and will draw too much attention.

            This was is a bit hard to figure out, but I am guessing Sookie will rescue Bill, so how will it happen? Unless, T

          • 235 Dee
            May 10, 2010 at 7:57 pm

            Very good point! why would he also invite Sookie in. And if she has been staked then Sookie would cause more of a scene. For one if they pull out the stake she is going to scream so kinda hard to keep their presence in the mansion in the secret. Also, dont know if Talbot and Eric will be the ones pulling the stake out, can happen but she needs somebody a bit more experienced like it happened in the book, plus I would hope they can give her pain killers too, seems like a lot of commotion. Even if Talbot can sneak people in, will be hard with someone who is injured and will draw too much attention.

            This was is a bit hard to figure out, but I am guessing Sookie will rescue Bill, so how will it happen?

          • 238 sunnynala
            May 10, 2010 at 8:09 pm

            MAS, we know Sookie will have to get into the mansion somehow. If not Talbot then I don’t know who, it’s completely up in the air. He’s just the only “in” I can see at this point in the game but other possibilities are bound to present themselves. How did she get into the mansion in the books? Was she injured and screaming when they brought her in, or when they pulled out the stake?

            • 239 Dee
              May 10, 2010 at 8:15 pm

              Russell was at the club when she was staked. Infact, the way she was staked was because she heard the two men who were planning it and were going to stake Betty Jo, who worked for Russell. She saves Betty Jo and stops them but she gets staked. Eric comes over to help her bc he pretends he is a friend of Alcide’s who was there to Meet his new girlfriend which is supposed to be Sookie. Russell and Talbot both help her, they take her in their limo back to the mansion and even get others to help her. They have a guy take out the stake and Russell gets another guy who has some extra healing saliva lol. After that is when Eric gives her blood.

              • 240 sunnynala
                May 10, 2010 at 8:23 pm

                “Healing saliva”? OMG, lol I hope like hell we don’t see anything like that on TB so help me.

                As far as Russell helping Sookie and bringing her back to the mansion, I don’t think this will be the case on TB. I can’t believe that Russell won’t be aware of Sookie and perhaphs plotting to procure her for himself by this point in the plot. No doubt Russell is intimately involved in Bill’s kidnapping and not just a disinteresed bystander who helpfully lends his property out to scorned female vampires to hold their errant lovers prisoner. LOL. Sookie is the best way to control Bill and getting his hands on her has to be a top priority any way you look at it. I doubt Lorena would have taken it upon herself to send Were’s to kill Sookie, I bet they were ordered, by Russell, to TAKE her not kill her. She’s no good as leverage if she’s dead.

                • 241 VikingLover
                  May 10, 2010 at 8:31 pm

                  Yes but the Were clearly shoots at Sookie in that teaser scene we saw. Eric jumps in front of the bullet to save her.

                • 242 Dee
                  May 10, 2010 at 8:34 pm

                  Well in the book all vamps release a little anticoagulant when their fangs come out and a little of the stuff that helps you heal, thats how it’s explained. But this one particular vampire had extra of it lol.

                  Yeah, I have no idea how it’s going to play out and I just hope AB makes it realistic. BUT wait, Bill pledges allegiance to someone else. What if this is Russell and he doesn’t really need rescuing and Eric and Sookie find this out. Ahhh this makes it even more confusing now.

        • 243 Dee
          May 10, 2010 at 7:47 pm

          It’s definitely possible, Im just trying to think how the rest of it plays out. Such as how Sookie will be able to get out of the mansion if she does rescue Bill. In the book, Eric seduces Bernard and even manages to get Bernard to drive him so he can get a car for Sookie. Bernard tells Sookie that Russell helped her by bringing her to the mansion but he will be more comfortable if she would leave in the morning since she is feeling better. That gave Eric the opportunity to say that it will be no problem and that he will just get a car for sookie and park it in the back for her so its there in the morning and also asked Bernard to make sure the guards know she is able to leave. So not only does Eric make it into the mansion once but also leaves and comes back with a car.

          So my main question now would be how will they get out. If Sookie rescues Bill, she will need a car to get out of there. Unless Talbot gives them one of his cars? I guess it is possible, AB can put a twist to it and still get them in the mansion.

          The other thing is that in the books, Russell didn’t like Lorena and did agree to allow her to use the mansion to keep him captive, she held him in this area by the garages, apart from the mansion. When Sookie talks to Russell much later on in book 7 about what happened, Russell didn’t really care that Sookie rescued Bill and Russell didn’t care that Sookie staked Lorena, infact he said she was a bitch. But seems like on the show, Russell has a bigger hand in kidnapping Bill. Infact in the book when Sookie calls the mansion the next night, nobody even seemed alarmed that their prisoner was gone.

  39. 244 EricObsessed
    May 10, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Geez! I’m confused! The only thing I know is that last bit about the two making out early in the season, wasn’t that one of the first spoilers of season 3 (for me anyway) when Sam Trammell mentioned it in an interview, about him and Bill because of the blood Bill gave him after the whole maenad shenanagans?

    And since we know ASkars has a graphic scene with a guy that has to be Talbot right? Could there be MORE gay sex? I mean I’m all for doing what you want with whomever you want but yes, I will admit watching it makes me kinda uncomfortable (at least with my husband sitting next to me making barfy noises). Although, if AS is the one doing it… maybe I’ll have to change my mind!!! 😉 oh yeah.

    But anyhoo, I just don’t see TB Eric doing that for no reason. I’m sure a lot of AB’s thinking is for shock-factor but as for the story, I think it’ll have to be Eric getting Sookie out of trouble.

  40. 245 EricObsessed
    May 10, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    I had another thought… if it has been talked about already, sorry, but do we even know for sure Lorena is in Season 3? I mean I know she’s the kidnapper in the book but I was just watching the re-air of season 2 episode “Timebomb” and when Sookie is asking Bill where he was while she was in the FofS basement and he says he was held against his will and she says, “you were kidnapped?” Could they have mushed up all of that from Club Dead into those couple of episodes in S2 where Lorena keeps Bill in the hotel room? And now they are working on Russell separately? Because IMDB isn’t listing Lorena in season 3 at all, yet.

    • 246 VikingLover
      May 10, 2010 at 7:35 pm

      Yeah, we know for sure that she is. The actor who plays Lorena has talked about it a bit. There’s a post on this site with an interview she gave. Check it out – it’s very interesting. 🙂

    • 247 sunnynala
      May 10, 2010 at 7:37 pm

      Mariana Klaveno has given several interviews about her role in season 3. She hasn’t given anything away but she has said that we will be ‘surprised’ at some of the actions Lorena takes in s3, and that Bill’s arc is ‘interesting’.

  41. 250 Dee
    May 11, 2010 at 1:59 am

    So instead of this spoiler giving us more insight, seems like it just caused confusion lol. Who knows, maybe Eric doesn’t kill Talbot or does so for a different reason. Also, why is Russell on the run? This might help answer questions

    • 251 OrientalThorn
      May 11, 2010 at 2:04 am

      Hah! Maybe he has sex with Bill…lol! After all, Russell did have this “relationship” talk with Bill and maybe after the talk Bill realized “Fuck eternity with women! Russell has a point and I prefer the pretty boys anyway!” LOL!!

  42. 254 Dee
    May 11, 2010 at 4:13 am

    Ok wait, Talbot might NOT die…read what it says about the actor playing, Tony, the guy who resembles Talbot. It says Russells CURRENT steady. Would they use the word current if he just died?

    Michael Steger is going from being surrounded by metaphorical bloodsuckers to literal ones: The 90210 actor has been tapped to guest star on True Blood, sources confirm to me exclusively.
    Steger will play Tony, a gay prostitute who gets picked up by King of Mississippi Russell Edgington (Denis O’Hare) because of his resemblance to his current steady, Talbot (Theo Alexander).
    Steger will appear in one episode of the drama’s upcoming third season and may return on a recurring basis in season 4. Sounds like someone may have discovered a loophole in his 90210 contract. Or maybe not. According to a 90210 insider, there are no plans for Steger

    • 255 Dee
      May 11, 2010 at 4:21 am

      or they made a mistake using current who knows.

    • 258 MASpencer
      May 11, 2010 at 4:46 am

      I think he meant current as in “at the start of the season.” I still think Talbot’s totally going to kick the bucket.

      Or, they could be deliberately misleading us. I’m not sure I even care anymore. LOL.

      • 259 Dee
        May 11, 2010 at 4:51 am

        I think so too, really don’t think he’s going to live.

        Yeah, todays spoilers have just confused me. Luckily there’s only a little over 4 weeks to wait. Hopefully the trailer this weekend will be good, I just wanna see Eric tell Sookie “don’t underestimate yourself” that will keep me happy for a little while haha

  43. 260 Willowbella
    May 11, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    Man, woman, vamp, human…I don’t care who Eric does as long as he gets some this season. I mean the guy’s a Viking sex God and he’s practically the only who hasn’t had any action on screen yet! I want to SEE what Dawn was raving about. 😉


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