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Dead and Gone – Wrap Up

I know I am totally late with this. With less than 24 hours to go until Dead in the Family, we need to get this re read wrapped up! And God knows we could probably do with a temporary distraction.

What are some of the questions you feel were answered, or that you might have gained a fresh insight into?

What questions did this book raise that you would like to see addressed in Dead in the Family?

How do you think the events at the end of this book will impact on Sookie in future? Will she become stronger? Harder? Smarter than she has been until now?

Dead and Gone has always been a very difficult book to read. It’s not one of Charlaine’s best efforts in that it’s very clear she struggled to find her groove while writing it. Sookie’s voice, even from the beginning is off and alot of readers and reviewers felt that some of the characters were a little out of sorts.

And of course, it’s harrowing to read about Sookie being tortured in such a brutal and cruel way at the end.

This book IS definitely the darkest of the series so far, but it can also be argued that it was necessary for Sookie’s character growth to experience the dark side of the life she has chosen. Readers have long complained that Sookie didn’t seem to learn from her experiences, that all the misfortune and physical injuries meant nothing because Sookie wasn’t growing. And I think that’s a fair criticism, one that Harris seems to have decided to address in this book.

If Sookie is to remain in this world, she has to harden up. After the events of Dead and Gone, I’m predicting that we are going to see a harder, more ruthless Sookie in Dead in the Family. That doesn’t mean that the witty, sassy Sookie we love is gone forever – but I do hope we see her remove the rose coloured glasses and start seeing her world and her part in it for what it is…not what she wishes it could be.

**NO DITF SPOILERS IN THE COMMENTS, PLEASE!**

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81 Responses to “Dead and Gone – Wrap Up”


  1. 1 Suzanna
    May 3, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    The one thing about the book that pissed me off the most was Sookie’s excuse as to why she wouldn’t go to Eric’s home for the duration of the Fae War. Eric even says that it’s until the Fae War is over; it’s not permanent! But Sookie is all (enter uber blonde voice), “Well, like, won’t that be hard, you know, for me to get to work and stuff?” I wanted to yell, “There are faeries who want to kill you and you’re worried about your JOB?” And then there was this awkward segue to the “what do you want from me?” conversation and Sookie comes out “on top” because she tells Eric she doesn’t want to be utterly dependent on him. But, he wasn’t asking her to! He was trying to protect her. As he put it, he was “honoring” her. He was making good on the offer from way back in Dead to the World to be there for her. The conversation didn’t make much sense and I think Harris was trying to show how independent-to-the-point-of-stupidity Sookie can be and I would just like her for her to stop doing that. Like, right now.

    • 2 Serena
      May 4, 2010 at 12:23 am

      I really hated that part too, especially because of the lack of compromise on Sookie’s part. The relationship = doomed if she keeps that up. Why couldn’t she waitress at Fangtasia if waitressing means that much to her? And why couldn’t she commute to and from Shreveport? I used to have a 2 + hour commute, suck it up Sookie. Overall this scene was the most annoying Sookie moment ever. Hopefully she can learn that being stubborn has its time and place. And to stop interrupting Eric, that would be good.

      • 3 LLE
        May 4, 2010 at 1:05 am

        Sookie does not sleep with the boss. Sookie would break her rule if she gets a job at Fantasia because she is sleeping with Eric.

  2. 4 OrientalThorn
    May 4, 2010 at 12:15 am

    While I agree with you that the whole conversation between Eric and Sookie was very exasperating, I do still see her point. Yes, they were just sexually intimate, but Eric had yet to define their relationship yet. I think Sookie was still very insecure about her place with Eric, she could not completely trust his feelings for her and didn’t want to be hurt. After their “happy moment”, he said “Perfect”, but she still couldn’t believe him, ‘I started to tell him he couldn’t possibly mean that, as many women as he’d had over the centuries, but I figured, Why spoil the moment?’ I think she refused his offer of staying with him because it would be a commitment in their relationship which she is not ready to make, she’s afraid to give her heart to him because of her own insecurities.

    And can you really blame her for feeling that way? Eric did disappear for 2 and half months after he recovered his memories. While I do not blame him and understand that he was dealing with his political position with the NV vamps, while trying to protect her, and being under a new king / regime, I still feel he should have found a way to let her know that he has not forgotten about “their talk”. She’s been betrayed by Bill in a bad way, numerous times. It must be difficult for her to believe and trust that Eric (awesome as he is!) would not break her heart.

    I think they both need to have a nice long sit down and spend the time to really talk to each other about their feelings and their relationship. In chapter 1 of DITF, we definitely see some possibility there. They are spending more time together and hopefully it would lead to opening up more. They have both admitted they love each other (although Eric has not heard it from Sookie’s mouth, he must feel it through the bond and her actions). I think they will finally “come to an understanding” and I look forward to that.

    We really should just blame Bill for this whole mess! LOL!!

    • 5 Suzanna
      May 4, 2010 at 2:32 am

      If Eric had been asking her to move in as the next phase in their relationship, I could see your point. However, Eric was asking her to *temporarily* stay at his place so she wouldn’t get killed by faeries. When people are trying to kill you, you have to put aside your own insecurities so you don’t get tortured and nearly killed. The pragmatic part of me thought Sookie had lost her mind at this point in the story.

      • 6 OrientalThorn
        May 4, 2010 at 2:40 am

        True… but given the context (since this happened right after they got together), I personally do not think it is totally out of the question for her to feel this way. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to just blame Eric, it’s just that I can see her point too. And lets not forget, she does have a tendency to jump to conclusions and make assumptions without any further verifications.

      • May 4, 2010 at 2:50 am

        I do see your point Suzanna. For a survivalist, this decision = epic FAIL.
        I think after what happened, she’d certainly make a different decision now though.

  3. 8 nerd
    May 4, 2010 at 12:16 am

    “What questions did this book raise that you would like to see addressed in Dead in the Family?”

    maybe it’s not entirely a question, but i would really like it if Sookie were able to show.. how to put it. a bit more emotional tact, perhaps? i’ve been frustrated with her as a narrator before, of course, but in DAG i just plain didn’t like her very much.
    her steamrolling of eric attempting to help her (“i appreciate you”) and that line about him wanting her to sit around and eat candy all day really pissed me off.

    she can be all “strong woman hear me roar” etc etc and not be such a bitch, period. it is possible. that is the first thing i would like for DitF.

    i would also like to know who the rat was, of course. how did Victor know to be at Fangtasia with his entourage at exactly the right time….

    I hope that this ends up as a “whatever doesn’t kill you makes your stronger” kind of thing for her in the end. I tend to prefer book Sookie to TB Sookie because she is more of a doer and less a damsel in distress screaming for Beeeeell, but her atttitude in DAG was just a bit too much for me.

  4. 9 Tam77
    May 4, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Not really a question raised specifically in this book….. but what is the point of the ‘glimpses’ Sookie gets into Vampire minds and when is that going to ‘come to fuition’ as a plot point?

    She sees into Eric’s mind in Book 1, Stan’s in Book 2, then there are no further specific glimpses but (like Sookie’s apparent fantasies featuring Sam), it is regularly mentioned throughout the series that it happens and she would be dead if any vampire knew this.

    I can only assume that CH intends for Sookie’s powers of vampire mind reading to grow otherwise why keep mentioning it?? It seems to me that this was a plot put on hold while the series was extended into more books (similar to the ‘there’s more to Sam than meets the eye’ plot line).

    • 10 nerd
      May 4, 2010 at 12:47 am

      ohhh good call! i’ve been wondering that myself. even in DAG sookie thinks she may have heard eric’s thoughts again as he was getting ready to leave. why keep mentioning it and then have nothing happen?

    • 11 LLE
      May 4, 2010 at 1:01 am

      In book seven Sookie heard two other vampires.

      • 12 Tam77
        May 4, 2010 at 1:25 am

        Did she know she was hearing them in Book 7? Do you mean at the ball/dance?

        I thought she was ‘suspicious’ that she was getting thoughts and feelings and felt this was due to the blood exchange with Eric making her own blood closer to that of a Vamps??

        • 13 LLE
          May 4, 2010 at 1:34 am

          When the Queen was on trial for murdering her husband, Sookie heard the vampire at the trial. Another time is one of sheriff that was involved with Sookie’s roommate.

          • 14 OrientalThorn
            May 4, 2010 at 2:24 am

            Yup.. I think in Rhodes she heard Gervaise and Henrik.

            • 15 eowyn
              May 4, 2010 at 9:30 am

              As recenly as 2/10..CH repeated about Sook’s reading vamps minds:

              Ms Harris I actually have a thing I would like to ask, if you have considered this thing, that has buged me for a while:

              people, and I assume vampires too, tend to think in their first language. And all those older vampires are from all over the world, from other languages. So it seems to me, IF Sookie cold hear their thoughts, that she would actually have a hard time to read their minds as she wouldn’t understand their language. Or would she just read their emotions and visions?

              And Thank you for writing all those wonderful books and giving to us all this food for our minds to wonder about!

              answer:
              But she CAN’T hear their thoughts, so that’s a moot question at best.

              The flashes she very rarely gets are only impressions.

              Charlaine Harris

  5. 16 OrientalThorn
    May 4, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Ok, my questions…

    1. How the heck did Quinn know Sam had trouble with his family? He said, “Have you asked Sam to turn his back on his family?”. We had to assume Quinn was in NV all this time, at the very least, outside of Area 5. Who told him about Sam’s family troubles? Was it published in the infamous “Supe website”?? LOL!

    2. D’Erique saw a fairy at Merlotte’s – how did he know it was a fairy? Most people wouldn’t. Why was the fairy there? To kidnap her in front of so many people? To spy on her and see what a barmaid does? Or… maybe it was not for her at all. Sookie only assumes that she is the target. Could he be there to see / speak with Sam? Is Sam involved in the fae world?

    3. Who is the fairy in the forest near Arlene’s trailer? She assumes that it is a fairy there to harm her… but was it? Or was it there to protect her? Was fairy magic involved during the gunfire?

    4. Who is the woman who poisoned Tray? What did she say to Bubba? What happened to Bubba after this incident? How come Bubba didn’t follow Sookie around since those were his orders? He followed her all the way to Mississippi the last time.

    5. Supporting Rat Theory —> Tray was skeptical about Bill not being involved with the woman who said she was Bill’s girlfriend. Sookie is so certain of this just because she “knew” Bill wanted her back. She “knew” he wouldn’t want to jeopardize that by taking someone else to his bed or by permitting such a woman to roam in the woods where she might encounter her. This is all from her assumptions of what Bill would / wouldn’t do. And many times, we know she is incorrect in many of her assumptions. I guess I can assume this woman was Neave, was this confirmed? Did I miss it?

    6. Another Supporting Rat Theory —> When Bill met Sookie outside of Tray’s house, and she told him how she forgot Amelia, he said “I think forgetting one thing after such a day is actually permissible, Sookie,” How did he know the events of her day? When Bill went to check on Tray, he managed to enter the house… how? Didn’t he need an invite before going in? There was no indication in any of the books that Bill had connection with Tray and has ever entered his house. Bill found blood in Tray’s house, smelled it and told Sookie not all the blood was Tray’s. He should know the other blood would be fairy blood (since Tray was taken by thing 1 and thing 2), why didn’t he tell Sookie? Esp. after meeting Bubba at his house, he must know Sookie is in some kind of danger.

    7. Sookie dreams of Eric (pg 222) except he was human and they walked under the Sun. He sold real estate. What’s up with the dream?? This is probably just random, but I don’t remember her ever having a human Eric dream before. Just thought it was interesting.

    8. Niall shows up at Sookie’s house, blood stain on his knees. He said he was there to warn her of her imminent danger. If he truly loves her so, why didn’t he send any protection. He knows she has vampires and Were protecting her (actually, how did he know? Who did he hear this from?), but not Fae and if a Fae War is going on, wouldn’t he send someone to watch over her? If not Claudine, couldn’t he send one fairy who could help ramp up the protection for his beloved great-granddaughter?

    9. Octavia and Louis – something is up with these 2. I can’t seem to pinpoint it yet, but it’s just strange. We don’t know much about Octavia and we certainly know even less about Louis, that whole exchange was just quite strange to me.

    Sorry this is so long. I’m still finishing up a couple of other items… LOL! I am SOOOO looking forward to DITF. I think I’m gonna enjoy it very much, especially given how dark DAG was.

    • May 4, 2010 at 12:52 am

      Just wanted to address your first question (wow that’s quite a list!) re how Quinn knew about Sam’s family issues.
      Sookie mentioned that she was looking after the bar bc Sam had family problems in front of Victor during the pledge scene. So Victor knew. This is just one more piece of evidence that Victor and Felipe were behind Quinn returning later in the book. They are obviously telling Quinn what they think it pertinent for him to know.

      Oh also Q3 – I think we’re meant to be thinking that woman was Neave.

      • 18 LLE
        May 4, 2010 at 1:00 am

        Victor told Quinn. Quinn might be working for Victor. In book 9 Sam had to go to visit his mother because his step-father shot his mother. Sookie told Eric and Victor that Sam had family problems. I doubt Sam would tell Quinn his problems.

        • 19 VikingLover
          May 4, 2010 at 1:40 am

          Wow, I totally missed that part – that Sookie told Eric about Sam in front of Victor. Yep, that definitely solidifies that for me!

          • 20 OrientalThorn
            May 4, 2010 at 2:07 am

            Ok, so the Quinn question would be further proof that he was sent by FDC/Victor. I didn’t initially put 2 and 2 together because I knew Sookie didn’t tell Quinn, and Sam wouldn’t have told Quinn himself. Just the fact that he brought it up in such a way… raised an eyebrow 🙂

    • 21 LLE
      May 4, 2010 at 1:12 am

      Tray drank a drink from a stranger. I thought how stupid can someone be to drink from a stranger. Bubba was suppose to protect Sookie. He stop by and said some word to her and he left to visit Bill. I know that Bubba is not bright at all but Tray was very stupid to drink from a stranger.,

      • 22 VikingLover
        May 4, 2010 at 1:41 am

        For some reason I was under the impression that the woman placed a spell on Tray therefore forcing him to drink the poison.

        • 23 LLE
          May 4, 2010 at 1:49 am

          We really don’t if Tray was under the spell to drink it and he kept telling Sookie that he had to drink it. I doubt he was under the spell because he remember the woman. If he was under, he would not remember it.

          • 24 Dee
            May 4, 2010 at 1:57 am

            Not only did Tray drink what this woman gave him but it was Vampire blood. He had to be under a spell bc there is no way that Tray would’ve drank vampire blood. Plus someone points out that the blood had to be Bubba’s, so she might’ve put a spell on him too. It’s not necessary that a person doesn’t remember anything that happened, they weren’t glamoured to forget. The spell could’ve just been to get them to do what she wanted and they wouldn’t question it but doesn’t mean they would forget what happened.

        • 25 OrientalThorn
          May 4, 2010 at 1:56 am

          Yep… I believe Sookie said ‘He’d been under some kind of compulsion spell.’ This woman made it so Tray was not able to not drink it.

          And Tray was the one who saw Bubba after he was poisoned. He said, “Bubba came in and went to bed in your closet. He said something about a woman talking to him, but I was feeling really bad by then, and I don’t remember what he said.” Sookie didn’t see him go visit Bill. Bill was the one who said that Bubba was at his house (the evening of her kidnapping), “He came over to my place to put drinks in his cooler, but he seemed weak and disoriented. After he drank a couple of bottles of TrueBlood, he seemed to be better. The last I saw of him, he was walking across the cemetery toward your house.”

          That’s why I was wondering what happened to Bubba. We know that although he is not quite right in the head, he is fiercely protective of Sookie, and that is why Eric has sent him to this task several times.

          • 26 VikingLover
            May 4, 2010 at 2:01 am

            [ “He came over to my place to put drinks in his cooler, but he seemed weak and disoriented. After he drank a couple of bottles of TrueBlood, he seemed to be better. The last I saw of him, he was walking across the cemetery toward your house.”]

            You bring up a good point here – why would Bill allow Bubba to leave in that condition without trying to find out what the heck was wrong? Clearly Bill must have deduced that Eric sent Bubba to protect Sookie for some reason otherwise what other reason would there have been for Bubba to be there in the first place? He only comes to Bon Temp when it’s some business related to Sookie.

            • May 4, 2010 at 2:26 am

              So true! Bill is either very stupid and useless… or he is up to no good. I am not discounting either possibility *roll eyes*

              • 28 VikingLover
                May 4, 2010 at 2:50 am

                LOL Yeah, a bit of both! You ever notice that Pam or Eric only call Bill in when there is no one else available and they have no choice? Whenever Bill shows up he seems to cause more harm than good. Maybe if Sookie had called Eric while she was at Trays things would have turned out differently. Maybe Eric would have called Niall and Niall would have gotten to Sookie’s house in an instant through the portal. Maybe he would have been there just in time to save her from Neave and Lochlan.

                This Bill thing is really bothering me now. Why didn’t Bill call Eric as soon as he saw Bubba to find out what the heck was going on? I’m sure he must have asked Bubba what he was doing there and Bubba being Bubba would have told him Eric’s direct command word for word “Mister Eric says I’s have to protect Miss Sookie”. So what happened here? Shit, this does not bold well for Bill does it? This encounter would have given Bill enough time to contact VM and tell him something was going on.

                • 29 VikingLover
                  May 4, 2010 at 2:52 am

                  *bode well*

                  • 30 Robin
                    May 4, 2010 at 4:55 am

                    Consider a couple of things Bill says to Sookie in the hospital scene in DAG:

                    “I’m sorry I didn’t get there faster” and;

                    “I would not, for anything, have had them hurt you.”

                    These words sound as if they come from a man that feels guilt and responsibility for her torture. Did anyone else see it like this when they read these sentences? I think Bill is our rat, and I also think Eric is probably suspicious of Bill being involved in Eric’s detainment and Sookie’s kidnapping by the fairies. Thus, Eric’s statement that he would have let Bill rot if Sookie was irreparable.

                • 31 OrientalThorn
                  May 4, 2010 at 2:57 am

                  Yuppers! That’s what I’m saying. I hope we will find out about what happened to Bubba in DITF.

                  Oh, and you have a point. I wish Sookie had called Eric instead of Bill when she was outside of Tray’s house. This is what I find really exasperating about her, she somehow is always fall back into trusting him. Why the hell? If it were me, and I felt like I’ve lost every last bit of courage, I’d still call Eric before Bill, even though he’s in Shreveport!

                  • 32 VikingLover
                    May 4, 2010 at 3:08 am

                    Iknow right! *sigh* A part of me thinks it’s because she doesn’t want to show Eric how much she needs and wants him. She’s just too scared to be vulnerable. There are moments in DAG where she says she misses Eric so much and would do anything to see him but she never picks up the damn phone to call him. This has always bothered me. I’m sure if she had called him during those moments he would have come to her. I think he would welcome her calling him when she felt that way. I think it would also make him more comfortable to call her and come over when he wanted to see her if she did that. They love this damn dance don’t they! They piss me off! lol I hope this changes in DITF.

                    Isn’t it funny (and sad) that Eric and Pam trust a half mentally retarded vampire over Bill? lol I always wondered why Eric would call Bubba to protect Sookie (given his condition) but I see now that it’s because Bubba would lay down his life to protect Sookie. Honestly, Bubba would have gone down fighting Neave and Lochlan without thinking twice about it. Well, without thinking at all. lol

                    • 33 OrientalThorn
                      May 4, 2010 at 10:50 am

                      VL – I agree with how you feel about this “dance” of theirs. It has been going back and forth through almost the entire series.

                      It does seem tiring. DAG (to me) is so much darker and angrier than any of the other books, everyone doesn’t seem like themselves (or at least they’ve portrayed through the books). Sookie is so angry at everything and everyone, Eric opens up (not that its a bad thing) and shows his own vulnerability and weakness, Bill… well, I guess Bill is the same deceiving, sorry ass as he’s been through the books (LOL!), Amelia is going through the grief of losing someone she was really getting close to, Sam is so wrapped up in his own family troubles that he doesn’t seem to be as involved with Sookie’s troubles as he did previously (intentionally?).

                      So many things have changed, it felt like CH was trying to tell too many things in just this one book. I hope that the reasoning behind this is to get close to a wrap up of this wonderful series. Seems like Sookie need to have all this angst and troubles to help her finally realize who and what she really wants. I hope in DITF, we will at least see her come close to realizing this and not always try to hide from the truth (in terms of her emotions and relationships with the various suitors).

                      As for Bubba, yes! I love Bubba that way. He takes his task of protection her to heart, and the fact that we know this, makes the whole Bubba disappearance questionable. If he was wandering in the woods after leaving Bill’s, wouldn’t he have come across the fairy twins? If so, did they see him there, then killed him? Was he injured, or maybe they put a spell on him? Or did everyone forget about Bubba (since they don’t think much of him), and he is then witness to some Rat Business??

            • 34 chaterestre
              May 4, 2010 at 7:49 am

              I’m wondering how much True Blood Bubba needs… he told Sookie & Tray that he had some in his cooler, he took a couple out of Sookie’s fridge, and then (Bill says) he put more bottles in his cooler and drank two bottles. I guess I wonder if he really went to Bill’s, or was this a story Bill created to hide what he knows really happened in the woods?

              • 35 OrientalThorn
                May 4, 2010 at 10:52 am

                You’re right, I didn’t think about the TB bottles. There is just something fishy about the whole Bubba story. I’m hoping Bubba comes back in DITF and will enlighten everyone about what he saw / heard that night of the kidnap.

      • 36 Dee
        May 4, 2010 at 1:48 am

        Yeah, I think VL is right. I also thought that he was put under some spell to drink it. He kept saying how he just couldn’t refuse it and something about being so thirsty and having to drink it.

    • 37 Tam77
      May 4, 2010 at 1:32 am

      Totally agree with your Supporting Rat theories – Bill has a lot to explain!

      A lot of what went down with Bill in this book just does not add up.

      He doesn’t explain the other blood in Tray’s house and yet he feels the need to tell Sookie that he saw the fairy twins take her – cause he is just a totally honest upstanding guy now… NOT!!!

      She assumes he is finally being totally honest with her… cause he lurves her…. the man is a crazy stalker!!!

      • 38 LLE
        May 4, 2010 at 1:39 am

        And he told her he would die for her. Bill let them kidnapped her and he did nothing stop them. After he was dying, Bill did save her life and the reason he did it because he thought he was dying. Bill would not have done it if he was in good health.

        • 39 VikingLover
          May 4, 2010 at 1:55 am

          [Bill would not have done it if he was in good health.]

          This made me LOL, LLE! Hahahaha! That’s too funny and too true. He could have tried – at least it would have given her a chance to escape (maybe). He could have called out to Amelia and Amelia would have seen what was happening and called Eric. Something! Anything! Instead he watched them take her. He took a big chance especially because he apparently knew who they were and knew about their awful reputation. I always wondered if that’s why Eric said he “would have let him rot” – because Bill chose himself instead of protecting Sookie’s life. So much for grand gestures, eh Bill? What happened to the “I would die for this woman”. *rolls eyes*

          • 40 OrientalThorn
            May 4, 2010 at 1:59 am

            I truly, swear to God, hope Sookie will be able to open her eyes soon and figure this out herself. I will I could write her a secret letter (complete with expensive stationery ensemble!! LOL!) with our theories on Bill. 😉 WAKE UP, WOMAN!! LOL!!!

            • 41 VikingLover
              May 4, 2010 at 2:06 am

              Hahahahaha! Too true! She really does forgive a lot of shit from Bill. I always thought there would be a little part of me that would be bummed if Bill turned out to be the rat. I think Sookie would be devastated if that were the case.

              • 42 OrientalThorn
                May 4, 2010 at 2:09 am

                Maybe this is the way CH will “kill” Bill off. He certainly would not be able to redeem himself after that!

                • 43 LLE
                  May 4, 2010 at 2:15 am

                  CH tried to kill Bill off but someone talked her out of it or the editor told her that she could not kill Bill off.

                  • 44 OrientalThorn
                    May 4, 2010 at 2:19 am

                    Yes, that’s what I mean, not killing him literary. Just killing him off to Sookie, so she would stop thinking that she could trust him – EVER!

                    • 45 LLE
                      May 4, 2010 at 2:30 am

                      Sookie really has not learn anything. If Bill was the rat, Sookie would be mad at him for couple months than goes back talking to him again and trusting him again. Sookie has very low-esteem and she abusive victim that alway goes back to the abuser. The only man whom really good for her is Eric.

                      One good thing is Sookie is no longer involved with Bill.

              • 46 LLE
                May 4, 2010 at 2:11 am

                I don’t think it will be Bill whom the rat. It would not surprised me if turn out to be Quinn. How did Quinn know that Sam had family problems. Quinn and Sam are not friends and rarely know each other. Sookie knows nothing about Quinn.

                • 47 VikingLover
                  May 4, 2010 at 2:32 am

                  {Sookie knows nothing about Quinn.}

                  This is what drives me crazy about Sookie. She can be soooo intelligent in some instances and so totally blind in others! Well that and the fact that she never asks pertinent questions but back to Quinn: Didn’t she think to question why Quinn just appears out of nowhere after months of not speaking to him? SVB made such a great point somewhere on this blog related to Sookie being an unreliable narrator. I swear this is so true!

          • 48 LLE
            May 4, 2010 at 1:59 am

            The only person Bill cares about himself. At the end he did protect Sookie because he thought he was dying. I don’t blame Eric being mad at Bill and wanted him to rot.

    • May 4, 2010 at 2:51 am

      “Sookie dreams of Eric (pg 222) except he was human and they walked under the Sun. He sold real estate. What’s up with the dream?? This is probably just random, but I don’t remember her ever having a human Eric dream before. Just thought it was interesting.”

      I think in book five, she dreams of her and Eric driving in a convertible in the daytime? I can’t remember specifically but something like that happened. I think she really wants him to be human, she also mentioned once that she wants his babies or something. lol. Sookie’s a mess. I once likened her decision making to plucking the petals off a flower because that’s how trivial she can be at times. Gotta love the girl lol.

      • 50 Robin
        May 4, 2010 at 4:19 am

        You know, I thought it was really random that Sookie dreamed that Eric was human and sold real estate. The only thing I could think of was that Selah Pumphrey was human and sold real estate. Is that supposed to be some kind of foreshadowing or literary device that CH tossed in there for us?

      • 51 Gigi
        May 4, 2010 at 6:48 am

        What really happens is that the fact that Eric is a vampire is the the real reason of Sookie’s fear to open her heart to love him (and also the reason why she has been rationalizing and making so many excuses to deny to herself the love she actually feel for him). Her subconcious is showing to her that se indeed loves him because she is walking with him under the sun (the normal way like she would like to do without limitations). And Eric was selling real state, because he not just offered her his house to protect her, but also is offering her his “home” and his “heart”. The real state in this dream symbolizes the love and the security of a commited relationship.

        If it has another esoteric meaning, or is a foreshadow, that we still don’t know…

        • 52 OrientalThorn
          May 4, 2010 at 10:54 am

          Gigi – I love your dream analysis. 🙂 I never thought of it that way, just felt that this dream seems odd and out of the ordinary.

        • 53 Robin
          May 4, 2010 at 11:25 am

          Thank you for your thoughts on her dream, Gigi. The description of the dream was so random, it really bothered me. I just really felt like there had to be something there in the text, and it caused me to stop and think about it for a couple of minutes.

    • 54 Dee
      May 4, 2010 at 3:10 am

      Someone asked CH about how Bill was able to enter Tray’s house and CH said he had been there before. She doesn’t mention it in the book but she says now that at sometime he had been there which I don’t understand why but maybe we’ll find out.

      • 55 EricObsessed
        May 4, 2010 at 9:02 pm

        Personally I think CH just make a mistake and had to cover her tracks about Bill entering Tray’s house. Because when Sookie calls Bill she tells him she’s at Tray’s house and he says, “The Were who owns the motorcycle shop?” So it seems like he doesn’t really know Tray at all. Unless, it’s all a part of Bill being the rat! Acting like he didn’t know him. Hope it gets explained!

    • 56 Lily
      May 4, 2010 at 3:40 am

      I read somewhere on CH’s website where someone asked her if there was more to D’Erique with seeing the fairy. She said he’s just a kind of simple guy who has his mind open to the fact that anything is possible so he can just see things others are not willing to see.

      Also I am very curious about who the rat is and am very sure Victor has something going on the side that we will hopefully find out about.

      Is any one else curious about what it is that Alcide does that is going to be so bad (we know he can be a user and keeps info to himself but even CH says she “isn’t happy with him”… and she is the one who tends to rationalize everything her characters do with regards to it being circumstances or because it’s just a part of coming from ‘the other world’.)

  6. 57 Serena
    May 4, 2010 at 12:48 am

    One of the things I want answered is what happened to Bubba? He’s not my favorite minor character, but was he really bespelled away? Is his disappearance even important? And if Bill is indeed the rat, did he send Bubba away and then mislead/lie to Sookie about it? When he does resurface, I hope we don’t get a shirtless and barefoot Amnesia-Bubba. lol.

  7. 58 Serena
    May 4, 2010 at 1:34 am

    Oh and another thing, Claudine tells Sookie in the hospital that Claude is with Niall. But when Niall shows up, Claude isn’t with him. Is this significant? I can’t wait to hear more from Claude, I hope that we’ll get his view of the Fae war and his whereabouts.

  8. 59 MAP
    May 4, 2010 at 1:53 am

    One question I have is what caused Sookie’s dizziness at Merlotte’s the night after getting back with Eric?

    Timeline
    The scuffle between Quinn & Bill
    Eric & Sookie back together – Yaa

    Sookie goes to works that night and feels dizzy – Why???? What is the point of this?

    Goes home & sleeps – no Eric
    Next night she calls Eric for protection & she knows Nevada vamps are listeining (Bubba & Tray) show up, text only from Eric no call, text from Alcide
    She goes to bed wakes up to find Tray is poisoned
    Works afternoon shift – goes to meet Amelia at Tray’s & calls Bill
    Bill stops for a red light and Sookie is abducted & tortured

    • 60 OrientalThorn
      May 4, 2010 at 2:03 am

      You know, I wondered about that dizziness too. She’s not one prone to this. And really… she’s had worse nights and worse troubles, and never felt that way. Do you think it has to do with the fairy who visited Merlotte’s? It’s the same night that Antoine told her D’Eriq saw a fairy at the bar. Could it be a fairy spell and if so, what was the point of that?

    • 61 LLE
      May 4, 2010 at 2:12 am

      I think it is stress.

  9. 62 Dee
    May 4, 2010 at 2:47 am

    I hope Sookie and Eric finally both express their feelings and talk about their relationship. I know in the first chapter we see Eric finally say he loves her but I want them to both say it to eachother. I hope Sookie is not confused about Eric anymore and second guessing him.

    I know there are many people who didn’t like Sookie in DAG or didn’t like the book period but I liked it alot. I liked that it was darker, and I understand Sookie seemed a bit different but then again people do change, she was in her mid 20’s now shes getting a little older so it’s only normal we’ll see changes in her. Plus she has been through a lot and how long can someone keep going through all these things and not be so effected and go through darker times.

    I hope we find out more about how Victor knew to be at Fangtasia, is he working solo against Sookie and Eric or is FDC involved. Who is the rat? not sure if we’ll find out yet. Also, want more info on the fae’s, so much we don’t know yet and a lot of things just seem strange and don’t make sense to me so I hope we get to find out more on them.

  10. 63 Lily
    May 4, 2010 at 3:54 am

    Something I haven’t seen mentioned on this thread yet that I hope to have answered in DITF is what is the deal with Dermot? What are his motives and where did he disappear to? Niall said he could be dead but I doubt that. The more I think about it though how evil is he really? He seems to be confused about everything himself. He wanted to meet Sookie rather than just offing her when I’m sure he had plenty of chances. Then with the whole needing to tell Jason the truth about Mel being a murder and that Jason is in the dark about everything that is going on… again, he passes up a definite chance to just get rid of him. I know there is going to be an evil revenge seeking fairy and a lot of people have been speculating it is Dermot but I’m not sure it is. For me, he can still go either way with that one.

    • 64 Dee
      May 4, 2010 at 3:56 am

      In the other post, the DAG re-read, a few of us actually talk about this. If you want you can go on that post to see what we say about this. We bring up the same exact thoughts you are having.

      • 65 Lily
        May 4, 2010 at 4:15 am

        Thanks Dee 🙂 I’ve recently discovered this blog and there is so much to catch up on but it’s a nice distraction to waiting for my book lol.

        • 66 Dee
          May 4, 2010 at 4:36 am

          You’re welcome!!! and I agree with you about Dermot, it just doesn’t add up at all and I don’t think he is evil.

          • 67 Robin
            May 4, 2010 at 4:57 am

            Me either, I think Dermot is misunderstood, and I am hoping he will become close family with Jason and Sookie.

            • 68 OrientalThorn
              May 4, 2010 at 11:02 am

              I agree. I don’t think Dermot is evil like how Niall made him out to be. It could just be Niall’s perception of Dermot because of their estranged relationship. Or Niall could be hiding something crucial. Almost seems like Dermot was trying to get introduced to Sookie through Amelia and Tray, like how Niall was introduced to her through Eric. Can’t wait to get my hands on DITF… I think he will surface again.

    • May 4, 2010 at 4:13 am

      It kind of gives you pause to question Niall, doesn’t it? After all, everything Sookie knows about Dermot has come from him.

      • 70 Lily
        May 4, 2010 at 4:26 am

        And of corse Sookie finds herself wondering at some point during the story Jason is telling her (I think) about what Dermot is really like but then less than a second later she banishes the thought. I mean yay you have GGF Niall now but still- kinda want to just yell hey you just met him and history repeating itself and all… Niall might be well intentioned but after all he is looking out for himself in the long run so without a doubt he will be rather biased on the whole sittuation. Like everyone else I am hoping she will stop trying so hard to trust everyone so entirely before she even knows anything about them.

        • 71 Sarah
          May 4, 2010 at 5:36 pm

          Here comes my favorite conspirancy theory. Everyone who is highly suspicious of Niall will like it 🙂
          Some proven facts from the novel
          (1)Niall`s moral standards differ alot from the values of a human. Especially his attitude towards violence and sex is far away from Sookie´s point of view.
          (2)Niall strongly dislikes Jason because he a) resembles Dermot and b) has only inherit the beauty and sexual attraction of the elves(in contrast to Sookie who had inherit much more). We know little about Sookie´s father, but it is said that Sookie´s mother was attracted to him in an almost unnatural way. It is not mentioned that he has some supernatural gifts. So we can assume that he is some blueprint of Jason, or more concrete the monogamic version of his son.
          (3)Sookie was molested as child by her uncle. Seemingly none of her parent belived her and thus was likely to protect her. The only thing that finally stoped the abuse (and avoided a “real” rape) was their death and the fact that Adele Stackhouse, who was known to be open-minded and liberal (thus likely to believe an abused child), took care of Sookie and Jason.
          (4) Her parents not only failed in preventing the abuse, they also were unable to deal with her gift thus making her even more miserable instead of giving her love, acceptance and comfort.
          (5) Niall said that Sookie´s parents were murdered by some “water spirits” (sorry I cannot translate this good, i read the novels in german) but it was a member of their own kin (!!!) who made the deed possible.

          Sookie believes Niall´s explanation without a second thought, so did I in the beginning. But then my questions started to emerge:
          If Dermot is evil, why did he tell Jason that Mel is a murder? If Dermot that bad why did he kill Sookie´s parents but not Adele, Sookie and Jason? And more important: if Niall is that nice and good, than why did Fintan not want him to meet his “family”?

          Let´s doubt for a second that Dermot is the murderer. Of course there are more other canidates but let us take a closer look at Niall.
          (1) Could he technically have done the deed? Yes because he is part of Sookie´s kin.
          (2) The more interesting question: Did he have a motive?
          I have already shown that Sookie´s father resembled Jason, so why should Niall like him more than Jason?(if someone has valid arguments against this tell me!). You may argue that dislike isn´t a good motive for murder and of course you are completly right. But now Sookie comes into play: she is more supernatural than Jason and his father and this is the main reason Niall likes her. Her life is defintely more valueable to him than that of her father. In her childhood her life was never threaten but nevertheless she was highly traumatazied due to her uncle´s abuse and her parent´ attitude towards her ability. It sounds really cynical but her parents´ death in some kind of ways improved her life: The abuse ceased, she never had to meet her uncle again and she lived with her grandmother who was able to deal with the ability.
          Niall had a motive and it made perfectly sense that he “only” killed Sookie´s parents but not her and Jason (why should he?). Furthermore you always have to take into account that his moral standards are completly different from ours. he bewitched his own granddaughter to make her sleep with a stanger. That is plain creepy!

          I do not want to say that he definitely is the murderer of Sookie´s parents in order to improve her life and cease her sad living situation. But I think there are lots of open questions concering this case and that it is at least not impossible that I might be right. Please tell me what you think of this, but be kind 🙂

          • 72 Robin
            May 4, 2010 at 6:08 pm

            This is good Sarah, I like the amount of thought you have put into your theory. I am not sure that I agree that Niall would have murdered Sookie’s parents. I am more inclined to believe what Neave and Lochlan told Sookie during her torture, which is that they killed her parents. I do believe that Dermot was there during that flash flood, but I think he was actually trying to rescue them from the vehicle. I stand behind my theory that Dermot is good. I do agree that Niall’s morals are way out there, and he presents his beliefs and opinions to Sookie as fact. And, of course, she tends to not question these types of matters.

          • 73 Dwimordene
            May 4, 2010 at 9:19 pm

            I like this theories… I never liked Nial, neither does Eric, who just made contact with him when it was the last option.
            He does have a very different point of view, much more different than vampires, he has never being human and I’m sure the fairies think of themselves as kind of gods… He even more as he is the Prince (now the last and only one).
            You have to opposite theories, though… Of “good” and a “bad” Nial. Maybe CH just sees him as the great grand pa… Maybe she is a bit more intelligent and is a grand pa fairy prince and has his own expectations and pov… Maybe CH is more interesting and twisted and he is the bad fairy. If the portal was still open all would be posible, but he is gone now, so what was the need of him being something or the other? It seems that we won’t get to know him.
            I like the idea of a bad Nial, though I hadn’t thought of your points… But why was Fintan so beware of him? Maybe Dermot killed their parents so that they could be better? Why would Nial mind anything of that?
            I don’t know, but whatever it was it’s too bad that is ended, we could have had a lot of interesting plots… This books tend to be a bit plain.

  11. 74 Natalie
    May 4, 2010 at 5:14 am

    Just found the blog and love it! I’ts just after 12am here on 05/04/10 and cannot wait to get my hot little hands on this next book.

    However half way through reading these comments about Bill and helping Sookie I want to know why he never ran the stop light when he was following her from Tray’s house? I mean come on we know all the police in Bon Temps and he could have done so with out even being pulled over. Why did a “stop light” stop him?

    By the way…I love Eric! I will deffinately be coming back to the blog as I love the conversations. If only I could find something like this for Twilight.

  12. 75 Natalie
    May 4, 2010 at 5:39 am

    I have one more “thought” that pop’ed into my head when reading the rest of the comments.

    Ok I love Eric more than Quinn but this idea of Quinn I had to share as food for thought. I think instead of going into the Pitts again Quinn has to work for the K of NV by spying on Sookie or Eric in some form. I don’t have the working knowledge of the books but it’s something to ponder. I mean I don’t doubt that Quinn feels and loves Sookie but something else just seems…odd. Maybe if he’s not working for K of NV then the K of NV had such tabs on Quinn to know he crossed into LA and that’s how Victor ended up at Fangtasia the night he should have been saving Sookie in the F War.

    Please do not get me wrong I love the lines of thought on this blog. Just wanted to throw a few things out there.

  13. 77 lala
    May 4, 2010 at 11:36 am

    Ugh. I hated DAG. I found Sookie whiny, angry. I mean, everyone in the book had their own big issues to deal with – Sam and his family, Eric’s regime change and the resultant adjustments, etc. Sookie was like an attention-hound or something. And she lost a bit of her ability to empathize with others. She’s thinking more like a vamp and less like a human. I guess it can’t be helped if all one hangs out with is supes, finding humans wanting.
    I hope CH can get back on the ball for DITF. I’m afraid CH herself has been through the mill (with TB, publishers, fans’ expectations) and is using Sookie as her mouthpiece.

  14. 78 Mia
    May 4, 2010 at 11:48 am

    One of the things that bothered me about this book is I felt Sookie was responsible for Mel’s murder. She tells Jason/Calvin that he, Mel, did it, and Calvin says Sookie’s word is good enough for him. Yet Mel denies the crucifixion part, and Jason confirms that Crystal was still alive since she bled on the cross (and for the fact that she partially changed before dying.) So technically Mel did not murder Crystal and as we find out, he wasn’t responsible for the crucifixion and her ultimate death.

    Yet Sookie leaves him there to be ripped apart and not a thought of guilt or remorse crosses her mind. She doesn’t try to delve further to see if he’s telling the truth; she doesn’t try to stop it – Sookie the woman who makes deals with vampires not to harm humans whose minds she’s read? Sookie: “I’d been turning over in my head Mel’s strange insistence that he was not responsible for Crystal’s crucifixion, during which she ACTUALLY died. His thought had had the ring of truth.” Where are her thoughts of her role in Mel’s death?

    Things for explanation:

    Amelia’s cavalier attitude concerning Tray and Sookie: Sookie agrees to meet Amelia at Tray’s; she forgets and arrives late. Amelia’s not around, etc. Why would Amelia just assume that Tray has gone to the doctor? He’s been poisoned. If I couldn’t reach my poisoned boyfriend by phone, I woud have walked to the carport, and once I verified his car is there (since Sookie mentions she sees its bumper from where she parks), I would be getting someone to check on him. I wouldn’t just assume everything is normal considering the killer fairy situation, which brings me to her attitude towards Sookie.

    Sookie is late by about an hour when she gets to Tray’s house. Why would Amelia just assume that Sookie got held up at work? If my best friend tells me she’s being hunted by fairies, my first thought is something BAD has happened, and I would try to reach her on her cell phone especially since my boyfriend has been poisoned by said fairies. I wouldn’t just go home and take a shower.

    Another thing for explanation:

    Eveyone says why didn’t Bill run the light. I agree. But why doesn’t Sookie wait for Bill when she realizes he’s caught the light? Why does she run up to her own back door without her lemon-juice pistol in her hands? It really made no sense considering everything that just happened at Tray’s and all of Sookie’s life experience with supes to this point.

    Also why would Neave and Lochlan kidnap and torture Tray?

    What happened with the FBI? If they’re not turning up in the next book, I hope we find out that Eric or Niall had them glamoured into losing interest in Sookie. I don’t think they would just go away. Even if one is injured, I think they would send more people to investigate especially since Sookie would have to testify in Arlene’s trial.

    • 79 EricObsessed
      May 4, 2010 at 8:51 pm

      I was thinking the same thing about Amelia. Why would she not have gone in to check on Tray? It just doesn’t make sense, did she have something to do with it? I mean she’s given us no reason to suspect her of anything in the past but something is not right there.

      Also, when looking over those few pages again, I noticed something that was brought up before about Bill being the rat. That when Sookie calls him to Tray’s house he NEVER denies knowing the woman who gave Tray the bad vampire blood. When Sookie implies a question at him he replies, “I’m not dating anyone” Sookie seems to suspect something because she notices the “emotional slant” to his answer, but then STILL doesn’t ask him! She speculates why Tray drank the blood and how does Bill reply? “Bubba doesn’t have mush sense at all” Ummmm… changing the subject a little bit!!! Bill was definitely in on it somehow. I’m not sure that he meant for Sookie to be almost killed, but who knows? I can’t wait till CH offs Bill.

      My DITF is still in-transit from amazon. It is killing me!!!

      • 80 OrientalThorn
        May 4, 2010 at 9:55 pm

        I agree about the Bill part EricObsessed. I didn’t catch how time and again he keeps changing the subject, never really answering her questions.

  15. 81 lala
    May 4, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    Amelia was an airhead. And she turned Bob into a cat. Oh well.


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