05
May
10

Dead in the Family #2

A new post for discussion, the original post is now locked for comments as it’s getting too long.

Same rules apply as the previous post, and please read House Rules before commenting.

***COMMENTS IN THIS POST CONTAIN SPOILERS***

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412 Responses to “Dead in the Family #2”


  1. 1 caratstick
    May 6, 2010 at 12:22 am

    SVB, not sure if this is OT enough, so delete if needed.

    Did you guys see this review? http://www.trueblood-news.com/dead-in-the-family-a-patient-fangirls-review

    There is so much to disagree with, but I think this addresses the part that most immediately made me say, “WTF…did you even *read* the book?”:

    “I love you,” Eric said…
    “Love you, too,” I said…
    pg 245

    She says it. No qualifiers. No list of the things she loves about him. She loves him.

    Suck on that.

    • May 6, 2010 at 12:56 am

      Yes she does say it.

      The comments are something else, aren’t they. I just want to say that I get extreeeeeeemely stabby with people who look down their nose at these books, slag them off, bitch and moan about how they’re written, and snoot around saying they will not waste their money on them, will not read them and would rather read reviews written by the likeminded….(WTF?)

      AND THEN PROCEED TO HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT THEM ANYWAY.

      Excuse me if I politely tell you to go fuck yourself. I am more than happy to listen to your opinion – when you’re entitled to have one. And you’re entitled to have one WHEN YOU’VE READ THE EFFING BOOK.

      /endrant.

      • 3 Mony
        May 6, 2010 at 1:03 am

        That’s the point!!!!!!they didn’t read the book but they had an opinion…oh my god..i really wanted to scream at their face how stuoid is talk without knowing….but then?you know what? who f***ng cares!!!
        thi book was great…S/E really love each other.Point.
        And in this…there is no opinion just a matter of fact!!!

      • 4 nerd
        May 6, 2010 at 1:12 am

        oh, i love you so much for saying that now.

        my best friend got me into the show. i then proceeded to read all the books, and then bugged her to catch up and finish them. she got up to 8 and launched into a tirade about how trashy and lowbrow they are, and no better than Twilight in terms of character development and writing. it was like, a straight out 5 minute profanity filled rant. and then her husband told me, “i thought you were smarter than this garbage” …..

        it really hurt my feelings, tbh. thank goodness for this blog 🙂 at least i can discuss with someone…

        • 5 Reginabee
          May 10, 2010 at 3:12 pm

          She had to read 8 books before coming up with that opinion? That’s questionable in and of itself.

          That reminds me of those people who keep reading and buying the books, but then they do nothing but complain about them and the characters in them. I guess some people just live to be unhappy.

      • May 6, 2010 at 1:17 am

        Have to admit to doing a classic spit take with my tea. Missed the keyboard, but I scared the cat.
        I love your gentle turn of phrase SVB. LMAO.

      • 9 caratstick
        May 6, 2010 at 2:24 am

        I know that I shouldn’t go to those sites. I know I shouldn’t get hopeful that their so-called “neutral” writers aren’t actually as rabid as FoxNews.

        • 10 Lkc
          May 6, 2010 at 2:44 am

          Woo Boy That was something to read. Instead of getting frustrated with them I just feel sorry. If you really feel that Bill is that amazing of a character then well you need counseling. You must be missing something in your life-like rough sex, lack of respect, being treated like a child, emotional sharing of your life, honesty. Oh wait -that’s what you WANT. Hmmm go down to the local prison you’ll find it there!

    • 11 Mony
      May 6, 2010 at 12:58 am

      maybe we should be good and have pity for them…yesterday was a really bad bad bad day for them….LOL

      • 12 Serena
        May 6, 2010 at 1:20 am

        I couldn’t resist it, oh those Bill lovers. (I feel so childish, but it feels so good).

    • 13 L
      May 6, 2010 at 1:36 am

      Oh man, the comments there make me want to claw my eyes out. BILL is TOO GOOD for Sookie? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

      • 14 VikingLover
        May 6, 2010 at 2:23 am

        That’s why I stay out of those BL sites – I simply can’t take it. It’s no good for my blood pressure.

        • 15 Kristen
          May 6, 2010 at 3:09 am

          Oooohhhhh… I just spent ten minutes of my life I can never get back ready that ridiculous dribble!!!

          One person ACTUALLY DEFENDED Bill for telling Sookie to sleep with him to make him heal more quickly, implying that Bill REALLY did need Sookie to sleep with him and she was selfish FOR NOT DOING IT!! Bill, the master manipulator, was just being honest about how Sookie could help him (because, as another commenter/poster put, it’s really not enough to drop him a pack of True Blood and send an eCard)?!

          WHAT!? *Chin lands on desk and lid is slammed down on my laptop in disgust*

          P.S. Thank you, SVB, for creating a place filled with at least a bit of actual SVM reality.

          • 16 Ashley
            May 6, 2010 at 3:19 am

            O..M…G…Bill was just being a jackass, and going for pity sex…and if Sookie had agreed, which she never would have, but if she had, he would have done it regardless of her being with Eric. And the comment about some nights wishing others were dead, i just wanted CH to kill him off if im being honest. Im disappointed she didnt. I hope she still will. I know thats me, but even Eric has never said he wished Bill was dead. Bill is just jealous, pure and simple. Eric has only threatened Bill if Sookie got hurt. Bill just refuses to move on. I hope he and that vamp get together.

          • 18 nskars
            May 7, 2010 at 1:21 pm

            HAHAHA ohhh man I am so glad I didn’t go to that site. I am completely ignorant to BL’s. I prefer to think that they don’t actually exist at all. Works for me.

        • 19 Ashley
          May 6, 2010 at 3:25 am

          Yeah ive been tempted to visit and comment but i know i will get way too angry, so i dont bother.

      • 20 Kristen
        May 6, 2010 at 2:47 am

        PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me they don’t say that! What books are they reading?? The novelizations of Alan Ball’s most secret “I love Beehl” fantasies?! Have they ACTUALLY read any of the books or just base their opinions on the fact that Stephen Moyer is attractive?

        • 21 Mony
          May 6, 2010 at 10:13 am

          Believe me…..the secon option you said it’s the truth sadly….they love Moyer…even when they post on Alex all the comments are.. “Girls we need much more Moyer”….that means a lot…

    • 22 Ashley
      May 6, 2010 at 2:48 am

      Plus, she tells anyone who asks that she loves Eric, with no hesitation. She just still has qualms about saying it first to him.

      page 113
      “Also, I miss you.” There was a beep. My message time was up. Well….good. There was no telling what I would’ve said next.”

      I still think even though Sookie love Eric and he loves her, she still has some issues when it comes to telling him she loves him to his face. Its not because she doesn’t. She clearly does, otherwise she wouldn’t tell other people that ask. I think its because she’s still scared about getting burned, and the intensity of his feelings. I think it says a lot that Eric says I love you to her first. He’s given in. She just needs to make the final leap.

      • 23 Kristen
        May 6, 2010 at 2:59 am

        Also, we must cut her some slack… Even though Sookie is 27, she’s only been in ONE other serious relationship (one in which she got completely fucked, btw) and isn’t very mature when it comes to relationships and the accompanying emotions.

        I think CH is doing a great job showing a natural progression/maturation in Sookie. There were definitely juicy tidbits dropped about E and S’s relationship that screamed “serious, adult relationship here”

      • 24 VikingLover
        May 6, 2010 at 3:01 am

        I literally screamed when he said “I love you” and she said “I love you too”. lol And I agree, she told EVERYONE that she loves Eric and that he’s her boyfriend. I loved that!!! Oh God, I loved everything about E/S in this book: the jump, when he chased her into the living room in her house, when she called him from the bathroom in Merlotte’s and he was teasing her, all the mentions of the off page moments they’d shared, the cuddling and conversation they had on his sofa, the fact that he told her all about vamp politics – every single moment. I think I’m tearing up! lol This book was a gift and I accept it gratefully and I’m going to bask in it for the next year. 🙂

        • 25 Dee
          May 6, 2010 at 3:13 am

          I felt the exact same way, I was so happy about their relationship. Also, her actions spoke for her when it comes to her feelings for Eric. She thought of forever with Eric, even thought of artificial insemination, just the fact that it’s crossed her mind is important. She was willing to give all her money to save Eric and wanted to kill Victor and not to mention wanted Appius dead.

          I thought they were cute together, they have a very honest and open relationship. She never had that with Bill or Quinn, and Sookie even realized Eric really letting her into his life and his world. They are equals, you don’t see him controlling her or vice versa, he doesn’t treat her like a child which we’ve seen in the past from others. She is willing to go as far for him to save him and be there for him as he is for her.

        • 26 Ashley
          May 6, 2010 at 3:14 am

          I loved everything about E/S as well, except i think the ending could have been better. But i think the weird drugs she drank messed her up, along with the realization of everything that had just happened. That whole scen at his house with the jump and everything, i was just thinking how lucky Sookie was. And the sex scene that follows, talk about hottt!!! Even i was surprised by that scene. And the cuddling afterwards. And the the chase in Sookies house and sex afterwards. It was close to perfect.

        • 27 M.
          May 6, 2010 at 5:26 pm

          Now see, I listened to the audio book (won’t get a hardcopy sent to me for a while and couldn’t wait), and in that scene Sookie’s reply was voiced more, ‘love you too!’ in a kthnkxbye sort of way. I was a little shocked by how flippant it was since it was the first time on the page she drops the ‘L bomb’ in front of Eric and was really curious as to how it was actually written. I’m relieved it was just the narrator’s artistic embellishment.
          Glad I found this site, cause all of my friends think I’ve gone a bit nuts waiting for this book to come out!

          • 28 caratstick
            May 7, 2010 at 2:13 am

            Actually that’s the way I heard it in my head, not flippant but maybe rushed, a little embarrassed. But still, “love you, too” is a big declaration from “Miss I love that you make me laugh…”

      • 29 VampirePamsGirl
        May 7, 2010 at 2:35 am

        Nice synopsis Ashley. I definitely agree with all that you said in your last paragraph there. Sookie even says in the beginning of the book that she trusts Eric in some ways, but not so much emotionally because she’s been burned before and she’s learned her lesson about that. I think she did begin to trust him a lot more with her emotions during the course of this book, but it’s still gonna take some more time and more of Eric being Eric before Sook really takes to wearing her heart on her sleeve again.

        You’re right though that it’s definitely not an issue of her not loving him. I think it’s more an issue of that she loves him enough that he could literally tear her to pieces emotionally and she’s scared for him to figure out that, to realize just how much power he has when it comes to her. And sometimes I really don’t think that she even realizes that she has that same power over him, that he loves her so much that she can rip him apart as well, that her sometimes caustic little comments actually hurt him. Their relationship strode forward in leaps and bounds in this book, but they still clearly have a few issues to work out.

        • 30 Ashley
          May 7, 2010 at 3:13 am

          No she doesnt fully realize how much Eric loves her, i agree. She believes he loves her to a certain extent, but i think maybe she still has doubts about the strength of his feelings, which is why she’s hesitant about expressing her feelings. Shes just being very cautious. Eventually i think shell realize that she need to give in completely, risks and all. Thats how love is.

  2. 31 caratstick
    May 6, 2010 at 12:28 am

    “I am so *not* a boy.” (68) No. No, you are not.

    And can I take a minute to laugh that Eric says “Whoops”? (82) As in, Whoops! Sorry I buried the woman you killed on your property.

    Why not just put her in the car that he threw in the pond? That doesn’t gel very well with savvy Eric–even DTTW Eric.

    • May 6, 2010 at 12:38 am

      [ Why not just put her in the car that he threw in the pond? That doesn’t gel very well with savvy Eric–even DTTW Eric. ]

      I agree. This baffles me.

    • 33 MollyS
      May 6, 2010 at 2:50 am

      I read it as in, Whoops! I forgot to tell you that I remembered where I buried her.

    • 34 Robin
      May 6, 2010 at 11:58 am

      Except that “whoops” led directly into a “come here”!

  3. 35 Mony
    May 6, 2010 at 12:37 am

    yes i’ve reda it but The Nest is against Eric, totally hate him, and they don’t like the books they think Ball is going in another direction without realizing he is bullshitting with them becosue he is goin in Eric/Sookie way…..
    I’m very sure that Harris with this book want to say without saying, “C’mon Ball…that’s the direction, hurry up if you want to survive!”
    Becosue after this book all the people will ask him every single damned day to go here!
    *happy dance*
    Btw i posted a comment on that site, i’m Supe overthere 😄
    But i refuse from now to go there becouse there is no objectivity….

    • 36 Dee
      May 6, 2010 at 1:36 am

      I can’t wait for season 3 even more now. Didn’t Ball confirm that B/S will have problems for longer than Bill fans would like. Also, do they believe AB will base his show on a happy lovey dovey relationship? LOL that is funny and they should really do some research on AB. That is the complete opposite of the direction he would go in, and just because he said Bill will not be marginalized does NOT mean B/S will stay together. And then they get nasty and accuse others of looking at things through rose colored glasses.

      • 37 L
        May 6, 2010 at 1:41 am

        Seriously. E/S fans get so much flack but most Bill lovers are borderline delusional.

        • 38 Dee
          May 6, 2010 at 2:00 am

          Yeah, I couldn’t believe we were called “rabid fans” and they don’t think they are lol.

          Anyways, something I wanted to bring up about DITF and wonder if I am the only one who thought this which if that is the case I’ll probably realize even more so that I am wrong haha.

          But did anyone think even for a second that the 2nd sailor, Alexei, mentioned that reminded him of Jason was Dermot. For a moment I thought maybe that’s why Jason reminded him of this sailor, would make sense. But not sure how that would even fit into the story or how possible it is.

          • 39 Meta
            May 6, 2010 at 6:18 pm

            I wondered that to about Dermot. But then I thought Alexie said he died? I need to go back and look.

            • 40 Dee
              May 6, 2010 at 6:36 pm

              Oh did he die? yeah I have to go back and read that too then. I thought the first sailor died but I could be wrong.

          • 41 Melissa C.
            May 7, 2010 at 12:36 pm

            I picked up on that but quickly dismissed it because it says he dies. However, he dies because he was kind to him??? What does that mean? Does this mean that Alexei wants to kill Jason? Did I read that wrong? Pg.172

        • 42 Kristen
          May 6, 2010 at 2:56 am

          In truth, Bill’s merely a side character at this point, getting no more page time than Alcide, so how they (BLs) can still believe him to be so important to the storyline IS truly the definition of delusion.

          This book, more than ever, was definitely the Sookie/Eric/Pam show (I mean Bill wasn’t even at the climax AT ALL, at least in DTTW he flew back from Peru at the very end!) and that’s just how I like it!

          And even though the BLs are vocal, they are still a minority for sure! All you have to do is visit the fan fiction community to see where the vast majority of loyalty lies! I think I’ve seen one or two popular B/S pairing stories…

        • 43 Ashley
          May 6, 2010 at 2:58 am

          They get flack because secretly they are insecure and worried. They wouldnt get so mad if deep down they didnt know some of what we say is true, and that Eric and Sookie are “fated”. Alan Ball’s has used the word “fated” when it comes to them. Seriously, why would he leave out their relationship after saying something like that?

          • 44 Kristen
            May 6, 2010 at 3:01 am

            “Fated” for domestic abuse counseling, I guess…

            🙂

            • 45 Ashley
              May 6, 2010 at 3:11 am

              Bill and Sookie are over in the books. In the show, its starting next season. BLs will no longer be calling us delusional.

          • 46 Ashley
            May 6, 2010 at 3:10 am

            *** i meant secretly the BLs are insecure and worried. Sorry, worded that wrong.***

      • 47 Ashley
        May 6, 2010 at 2:56 am

        Yeah the BLs obviously havent seen any of Alan Ball’s other work. Uh, American Beauty, Towelhead, and Six Feet Under? Helloo people? Alan Ball goes for shock value, in the extreme. He goes for ultimate betrayals. Anyone who has seen Six Feet Under knows what im talking about. Not a very sappy show. I predict this season Billy boy’s saintly image will be long gone, and for good reasons. I believe it will make Eric locking Laffy in the dungeon for two and half weeks look like he was feeding him milk and cookies and reading him bedtime stories the whole time.

        • 48 MASpencer
          May 6, 2010 at 3:05 pm

          I totally agree with this. And I’m dying to see what happens to the fandom when Bill’s fall happens. Because I’m 99.9 percent certain that it WILL– and with far less room for rationalization than what the books offered.

          Will the BLs dismiss Alan Ball and start saying that CH “got it right”? That would be amusing.

          Sadly, I suspect they’ll just fall back on the old “Sookie is a skank” bit. It’s disgusting, really.

          • 49 Ashley
            May 7, 2010 at 2:22 am

            LOL…since when is someone a skank if they have had more than one guy when they are 25 years old…unbelievable

    • 50 Lkc
      May 6, 2010 at 2:47 am

      Actually I think you will be banned. They can’t handle any dissenting opinion.

  4. 51 Imagine
    May 6, 2010 at 1:12 am

    Ok so did anyone else get a little confused with the last page or two? (I didn’t want to get too spoilerific so I won’t be that specific) Anyone else find that a little inappropriate and quick or is it just me? Eric will not be pleased with that at all. Other than that I really enjoyed the book. 364 days left till the next one….ahhh waiting sux!

    • 52 Mony
      May 6, 2010 at 1:22 am

      I want to ask you a thing that i have in my head since i’ve read the book.
      CH said that in this book she was very disappointed with Alcide, he did (for her) a bad bad bad thing….my question is:WHAT?
      i mean i know about the meeting, but he told her about it, but what he doesn’t told her is WTF is that drugs???
      Suddenly Sookie couldn’t feel the bond…..even in the end she said that the bond with Eric was not so strong now even becouse they didn’t share blood in few weeks…
      But what i like to discuss is: Does is this what CH was talking about when she said Alcide did something bad? Breaking the bond?????
      Sookie has no interest in breaking the bond, we got it quite clear in this book…so is Victor so devious to use every kind of power againt them?even maybe using the Were??who the hell know what Victor did to Alcide to oblige him to do this??

      Maybe i’m totally wrong….but we know CH will break the bond….in this way it will be unwilingly for S/E and i hope God will have mercy of Victor and Alcide when Eric will find it!!!!

      • 53 Serena
        May 6, 2010 at 1:27 am

        Yeah, I wonder what if any other lasting effects that drug had,.. and I def. agree, Sookie won’t look to break the bond, but I wish Amelia would call her anyway so we know how not to break the bond whether on accident or by Victor.

        • 54 Mony
          May 6, 2010 at 1:36 am

          she didn’t feel the bond….and that’s soooo strange…..maybe it was just becouse while she was at the meeting Eric was attacking and lost some of his blood….but i still think that potion will have some strange effects…..

          • 55 VikingLover
            May 6, 2010 at 2:27 am

            It wasn’t broken – she actually felt the bond again after she left Alcide’s and got into Jason’s truck. That’s when she knew Eric was in trouble.

      • May 6, 2010 at 2:36 am

        The bond isn’t broken, Sookie was definitely feeling it again as the drug wore off, and as VL said that’s why she and Jason went to Eric’s house, she knew he was in trouble. Kinda handy that BB, eh Sook? I digress.

        Alcide – I abjure him. I was almost convinced to give him another shot but his behaviour in this book has finished him for me. What did he do? He openly, blatantly, and selfishly USED Sookie for his own purposes…yet AGAIN.

        This bit – classic Alcide:
        Sookie begins by asking what this drug will do to her.

        Alcide: “It gives you a different perception of reality. That’s what the guy told me. And since I clearly wasn’t shaman material, that’sall he
        told me.”
        Sookie: “Why would I take an unknown drug?” I asked, genuinely curious.
        Alcide: “Because otherwise we’ll never get to the bottom of this,” Alcide said.

        First of all, he has no idea WHAT this drug is and he fully admits that he doesn’t know anything more about it then what he just told her. When Sookie (quite sensibly) asks why she would take it – THAT is his response? REALLY ALCIDE? You should take this drug, that I know nothing about, so that I can get to the bottom of MY problem?

        Not to mention the whole pack thing on her land – he knew they had a problem and he just took it all to her house.

        Fuck you Alcide, you selfish asshole. I think I’m going to be saying that alot from now on. Oh and then he also called Eric a “cold ass”. Pot meet black, Alcide Hereveaux.

        • 57 Dee
          May 6, 2010 at 2:40 am

          Again he put another woman before Sookie. He was so concerned with getting Annabelle off the hook that he was willing to give Sookie this drug he didn’t know much about. I also was disappointed with Alcide, and he has changed so much since club dead. Being a pack leader really hasn’t done well for him.

        • 58 Ashley
          May 6, 2010 at 3:03 am

          Ugh yeah i hated that he said that about Eric. Who the fuck cares what he thinks of ERic? Why does he feel the need to comment? Sookie doesnt like Alcide romantically. She was never into him, merely physically attracted. Sookie obviously doesnt give a crap about what he thinks about Eric.

        • 59 nskars
          May 7, 2010 at 1:45 pm

          Alcide had been pissing me off for awhile with his holier than thou attitude, selfishness and his using of Sookie’s ability. But that entire scene in DITF has made me wipe him completely and utterly.

          He found it acceptable to bully her into drinking some unknown drug and taking on the role of pack shaman – with no warning whatsoever. Not only did he screw with her head with the “we could have been a couple” shit (as if that wasn’t bad enough), but he basically said that a year ago he could’ve told her to jump and she would have asked how high. That’s what did it for me.

          The guy’s a bully, plain and simple. Pretty much on par with Saint Bill.

    • 60 Robin
      May 6, 2010 at 12:10 pm

      To me, it seemed completely innocent that Sookie fell asleep with Dermot and Claude in her bed. A family was brought together in a book that focused so much on family. I have a funny feeling that Sookie has more fairy to her than we realize.

      Imagine, you are probably correct. Eric would probably not appreciate Sookie having two fairy men sleeping in her bed with her, remember the note he left her? And, he would be able to smell their presence in her bed days later. I do think he trusts her though.

      • 61 northmanfan
        May 6, 2010 at 12:37 pm

        “Eric would probably not appreciate Sookie having two fairy men sleeping in her bed with her, remember the note he left her? And, he would be able to smell their presence in her bed days later. I do think he trusts her though.”

        Hehe…I liked Dermot and Claude offering sookie comfort too. I also agree that eric may not be pleased. However, that may prompt him to find a way to make sure he’s there for her to snuggle up to at night on a regular basis. 😉

      • 62 nskars
        May 7, 2010 at 1:53 pm

        I loved the E/S interaction in DITF and was wanting them to spend more time together but I have to agree and say that I actually really liked the ending with Dermot and Claude, too. It seemed a happy, peaceful and fitting end to the story (for now).

  5. 63 Serena
    May 6, 2010 at 1:40 am

    Ok maybe I’m reading to much into this, but this has been really bothering me, why CH brought in the two complex characters of ALO and AR and then killed them off within the same book, and I hated that their appearance stalled the Victor/Felipe plotline. But then I had a mind blowing epiphany while working in the yard, while not in my bikini. Shakespeare..Alexei..Victor…

    Holy Shit! Alexei is Victor’s direct parallel, as Felipe is to Appius. The play within the play.

    A disobedient subordinate vampire in AR/VM, who Felipe/Appius has yet to cast judgement on, has the similar colleague/brother-like relationship with Eric, (their common boss’/maker’s underling), and both need(ed) to be put to final death, but neither Sookie nor Eric could take out either of them due to the wraith of Felipe/Appius.
    In Appius’s circumstances, he waited and kvetched and waited some more on what to do about Alexei, -Hello, Hamlet- until it ultimately resulted in his own death. And if Felipe/Eric/Sookie do the same thing as Appius did, or rather didn’t do, game over. And since we know Eric (and CH) have read Shakespeare, they better make like Othello, kill Victor and deal with the consequences later…
    I feel like we could do a whole thread on the Shakespearian overtones and references in this book. Seriously, why did CH flag Shakespeare 3 times?

    I wish I could have some of that shaman stuff so I could see this more clearly. I hope this isn’t to out there. But it would help to explain the selfcontained-ness of this book in the whole context of the larger story. Thoughts?

    • 64 Liz
      May 6, 2010 at 3:38 am

      very interesting, hmmmmm ill have to think on this

    • 65 Robin
      May 6, 2010 at 12:14 pm

      Oh, so much to really think about. Sounds like a great topic for SVB to turn over with us for discussion.

    • 66 Suzanna
      May 7, 2010 at 12:07 am

      Eric wouldn’t be free to be King if he had a master, still. I noticed that Sophie-Ann’s master had died long time ago and that none of the other Kings or Queens still had their masters. Killing off AO and AR was probably CH’s way of clearing the decks in preparation for Eric taking Louisiana.

      • May 7, 2010 at 1:05 am

        Oh THIS THIS THIS THIS.

        I am in the process of writing a review (oK it’s a tome) and I touched on this. Appius appearance was a plot device. If Eric is Sookie’s HEA, the issue of his maker had to be addressed in a completely irrevocable, watertight way. After what she went through with Lorena and Bill, there would have been a question mark over any HEA unless the issue of his maker was dealt with. Consider it now dealt with. Irrevocably.

        Eric’s maker, his brother, his daytime guy, his bartender are all dead and Bill is pretty much the walking useless. Sookie has finally started to grow up a bit and show some nouse. Eric is vulnerable and exposed right now and the stage is set for Victor (and FDC) to move. And they will move. Here it comes, I hope ya’ll are ready. In killing Appius and having Sookie grow half a brain, CH has cleared every impediment to Eric becoming King and I’m more convinced than ever that is where we’re going.

        • 68 VikingLover
          May 7, 2010 at 1:19 am

          I’m glad to hear it because I’ve been dying to hear your thoughts on this book! 🙂

          • May 8, 2010 at 1:42 am

            Q. How much of your novel series is planned in advanced? Do you know how it’s going to end, or how many books it’s going to take to tell these stories? Do you ever worry that you might get tired of writing these stories before they’re finished?

            My interview with Charlaine Harris —> http://tinyurl.com/3ahesv9

        • 70 Jo
          May 7, 2010 at 1:20 am

          I really liked this book. I thought CH was not going to get Eric King, but it seems inevitable now. This idea has never pleased me, seems a major impediment to the HEA. But Sookie really surprised me this book, I hope it continues to grow and mature. Many have said that this book was Sookie more ruthless? I think it’s necessary if Sookie will have a HEA with Eric. Sookie does not bother me the most ruthless, it needs to be strong for Eric.

          • 71 Dee
            May 7, 2010 at 2:43 am

            Ok this is a stupid question and not bringing anything to the table but if Eric becomes King, would Sookie be the Queen of Louisiana? She is married to him by vamp law but she is human so I wonder.

            • May 7, 2010 at 3:22 am

              We kicked this around a while ago, and I think the general consensus was that she probably would not be Queen because she’s human. She would be more like a consort. Which I think would suit her ok, she would never want to be Queen.

              • 73 Dee
                May 7, 2010 at 4:26 am

                ah sorry didn’t see that topic. Yeah, I figured that since she was human that it wouldn’t be possible. I don’t think Vamps would be happy having a human with the title of Queen. Too bad has a nice ring to it haha, but yeah Sookie is not into vampire politics so she wouldn’t care for it.

        • 74 Serena
          May 7, 2010 at 1:22 am

          Yes I think that is where we are heading too. As it relates, what do you think Bruno meant when he said that Eric was accumulating more power?

          • May 7, 2010 at 1:31 am

            Eric told Sookie in DAG that he had been busy “shoring up his authority” in the new regime. Then we get this comment from Bruno. Two very clear indications that Eric is already making friends and forming alliances because he knows what’s coming.

        • 76 northmanfan
          May 7, 2010 at 1:40 am

          I’m still of the opinion that eric really doesn’t want to be king. I think he’ll do it if he feels he has to, but I don’t think it’s something he wants. If it happens, I think it’ll be because victor and/or felipe forces his hand. Victor seems power hungry and he may be interpreting eric’s attempts at keeping his power base intact as trying to accumulate power. In the aftermath of the takeover, eric would have to shore up his authority. Despite Felipe leaving him as area 5 sheriff, some of felipe’s underlings may have tried to make a play for eric’s position. It seems sort of like a balancing act. Eric has stay “on the radar” just enough to keep his authority, but if he draws a good bit of attention to himself (e.g. the pledge to sookie), then he may be seen as a threat.

          • May 7, 2010 at 1:50 am

            I don’t think he wants it, he’s never wanted it. But he now understands that it’s necessary.

            They already see him as a threat. They have since day 1.

            • 78 northmanfan
              May 7, 2010 at 2:04 am

              I think that Felipe would have killed him if he considered him that much of a threat at the beginning. I don’t think he would have bothered keeping him as sheriff if he was that threatened by him. However, since the takeover, from what we know, eric’s biggest act of defiance has been marrying sookie. That may put him into higher threat level territory (but that was a risk he was willing to take). I don’t know if eric thinks it’s necessary to become king at this point, but I do think he’ll take on the position if he feels he has to. I think his biggest problem now is trying to stay ahead of Victor who clearly wants him dead.

            • 79 Caitlin
              May 7, 2010 at 4:56 pm

              It makes me nervous to think of Eric being King. Everthing we know about about the kings and vampire autority makes me think that the higher up you are on the vampire totem pole, the more dangerous it is, the more of a target you are. I feel like Sookie would be in more danger if Eric became King. And they didn’t get to spend much time together as it was in this book, can you imagine if he is King? If CH makes him King, I am afriad he will not be the HEA. I am glad that you may feel otherwise because I think you are probably smarter when it comes to this SVB! But it makes me nervous…

              • 80 Serena
                May 7, 2010 at 5:19 pm

                I think if Eric is not king they will never be safe, someone will always trump their relationship. And when (not if) badass Eric returns and wipes out Felipe and Victor, I doubt anyone will frak with him. The possibilities of alliances with other states do have me worried for the HEA though, like if Eric would have to marry into power to strengthen his position. And SVB is definitely Queen at this.

              • 81 MASpencer
                May 7, 2010 at 5:23 pm

                Someone mentioned the possibility of PAM becoming QUEEN. This could solve that little conundrum…

              • 83 Robin
                May 7, 2010 at 5:27 pm

                I am starting to wonder if maybe Pam would be Queen, allowing Eric to remain Sheriff of Area 5. Pam is ruthless and seems to be much more focused than Eric. She may be better suited to be Queen because she does not have the distraction that Eric has in Sookie.

  6. May 6, 2010 at 1:43 am

    Even though Sookie was somewhat to say “I love you” to him directly, it was about her fear, that was very clear. Her actions in this book made it very clear that she is deeply in love with Eric and contemplated turning for the first time. The way she fought for Eric at the end was also pretty intense. Her desire to kill Appius was all about Eric. Again, I am going to harp on the audio book. Its been the same reader 10 times now and Charlaine would have veto power over the girls tones, inflections, etc.

    Said this in the previous post, the “circle of trust” (Eric/Sookie/Pam) should have reported that highway incident to FDC as that would have been two incidents of Victor trying to kill Sookie. I think FDC has more integrity than Victor and I don’t think he has forgotten what Sookie did in the parking lot of Merlotte’s.

  7. 87 VampAngel79
    May 6, 2010 at 2:34 am

    I just thought of something. When Sookie goes to Fangtasia to meet Eric and he is there with Appius and Alexei, Maxwell Lee is at the door and he tells Sookie that he’s so glad that she is there. While, I’m glad another vamp seems to like Sookie and Eric together, besides Pam, I have to wonder WHY? Why was Maxwell Lee happy Sookie arrived?

    I mean I know the situation with Appius and Alexei was dire and stressing Eric out, but what could Sookie do at that moment to amke it better? Was it just that Maxwell Lee knows how much Eric loves Sookie that he he knew her being there was going to get his spirits up and helped with the stress? If so, Maxwell is a smart cookie, since the first thing Eric tells Sookie is that he missed her, in front of Appius and Alexei! Can I get an awwwww?

    Anyway, what do you guys think of what Maxwell Lee said?

    • 88 Dee
      May 6, 2010 at 2:37 am

      I also wondered if there was another reason, Maxwell, had said that but once she got inside, I couldn’t find another reason.

      I think it was simply because he felt that it could lift Eric’s spirit up a bit and make him happy to see her. He probably thought, Eric, needed that at the moment.

  8. 90 Kristen
    May 6, 2010 at 2:53 am

    Did anyone else notice how many different people wanted to be near Sookie for healing or whatever? I felt like it was mentioned over and over that being close to (physical proximity) Sookie was somehow beneficial… I’ll have to re-read, but I think it was Bill first (“If we made love…” blech) and then later Claude. And THEN she mentions over and over how Dermot wants to be closer to her and that hugging/touching seems to bring him back to reality. What is going on with Sookie? Is it just the fairy blood? Or is her fairy “essence” somehow enhanced by the blood bond? Why did Bill’s color get better by simply kissing Sookie and why hasn’t this come up before?

    Or was it just a coincidence of CH’s language?

    • 91 Serena
      May 6, 2010 at 3:01 am

      Yeah, it seems to suggest that fairy magic is transferred through touch…, so literally fairy-human coupling is consuming their magic, and Sookie seems to be collecting it based on what Claude said, that it wasn’t just her 1/8 but the fact that she had been around enough fairies long enough. (Not to mention she slept with one, maybe this is why “Gift Wrap” is significant?) I also wonder if the little bit of fairy blood in Hunter influenced Claude too.

      • 92 Robin
        June 6, 2010 at 2:43 pm

        Also, remember that Sookie was told by Niall that she does have the “essential spark”. Maybe this has something to do with her fairy blood and fairy magic?

  9. 93 MollyS
    May 6, 2010 at 2:59 am

    I didn’t make it all the way through the comments on the previous discussion thread, so I apologize if this was already asked and answered, but can someone please explain Pam’s comment on pg. 85: “Eric hasn’t had anyone like you in a long, long time, Sookie.” What does “anyone like you” mean? Human? A wife? A monogomous relationship? Other than his wife when he was human, what is Eric’s relationship history?

    • May 6, 2010 at 3:01 am

      I caught that too Molly. I’m thinking it was perhaps just an acknowledgement that Eric has had serious relationships with other women since he was turned.

    • 95 Serena
      May 6, 2010 at 3:07 am

      I wondered if Pam meant Eric’s other child, the one she mentioned way back in ATD, when she is talking about her own turning,.. she specifically used the pronoun ‘her.’

      • 96 VikingLover
        May 6, 2010 at 3:11 am

        Crap, well there are only 3 books left and we still have a lot of ground to cover: VM/Felipe, Gran/the attic, Quinn. Let’s hope CH doesn’t decide to toss her into the mix to stir up some trouble.

      • 97 Ashley
        May 6, 2010 at 3:23 am

        I thought that she died or something. Maybe not. But i know she at least had no interest in sticking around.

        • 98 Serena
          May 6, 2010 at 3:30 am

          Pam said she “struck out on her own”… I’ve always thought that Eric’s treatment of Sookie in general and his commitment to not turning her is based on past experiences, like maybe he loved her when she was a human and she changed when he turned her, that kind of thing.

      • 102 Meta
        May 6, 2010 at 6:33 pm

        Eric has another child? I guess I need to reread ATD. I have read them a few times and have never caught on to that.

    • 103 LLE
      May 6, 2010 at 9:56 pm

      It was before Pam. Pam was the last woman that he gave his blood.

      It’s look like Eric did fall in love with woman before Pam.

    • 104 LLE
      May 7, 2010 at 2:33 am

      I wonder when the woman in Eric’s past will show up.

  10. 105 VikingLover
    May 6, 2010 at 3:05 am

    [Also, we must cut her some slack… Even though Sookie is 27, she’s only been in ONE other serious relationship (one in which she got completely fucked, btw) and isn’t very mature when it comes to relationships and the accompanying emotions. ]

    Kristin, this is a great point and something I need to work on. There was one moment in the book when I got really angry with Sookie – when she adopted the “well I won’t call him if he doesn’t call me” attitude. I felt she was being very selfish during Eric’s ordeal with his Maker. But honestly I really need to give her credit – she’s come a long way in just one book. I really need to cut her a little bit of slack on this one.

    • May 6, 2010 at 3:16 am

      There was one moment in the book when I got really angry with Sookie – when she adopted the “well I won’t call him if he doesn’t call me” attitude.

      I think that’s the only time I got really mad at her as well.

      Dear Sookie.
      Your boyfriend has his maker IN HIS HOUSE with his batshit CRAZY kid. You can feel through the bond that he is down, stressed out, and worried. GET THE HELL OVER YOURSELF.
      Thank you.

      • 107 Ashley
        May 6, 2010 at 3:22 am

        She was mad because he hadnt called her in a couple of days. She knew the situation. I think shes sick of the vamp politics, but that comes with the awesome package that is Eric. I think if she was smart, shed realize that not having him around all the time is a small price to pay for being with Eric. Even Tara thinks Eric is great, which is quite a turnaround.

        • 108 VikingLover
          May 6, 2010 at 3:31 am

          Yes, that’s true Ashley but what pissed me off is that this wasn’t about politics – it was about family. Sookie should have been more sensitive to that. I felt like crying when he told her in not so many words that he would be forced to have sex with Appius if that’s what Appius wanted. It was like he had just been turned and he was desperate to get away again. It was terrible – the hold that Appius had over him. I’m so glad he’s dead.

          • 109 caratstick
            May 6, 2010 at 3:39 am

            Yes, you’d think that Sookie–who resents like hell being forced to do anything she doesn’t want to do, who hates being helpless–would have a bit more empathy/sympathy and concern for Eric’s fears about his maker. I think she did in some ways (her comments about wanting Appius dead and her realization that being under the control of his maker was what Eric feared more than anything), but then she pulls the needy child out of her hat and that is not cool.

            • 110 Kristen
              May 6, 2010 at 4:18 am

              I kind of think this lack of control is an important equalizer in their relationship, too. Someone on the first post made a really interesting point… in DAG, Sookie ended the book with a total lack of control over and she hated feeling helpless. Eric was there to remind her of her strength and give her what she needed. In DITF, Sookie is there to pull Eric from his fear of losing control and subsequent inaction. She literally has to remind him of his capabilities.

              And again, we see a strong parallel their personalities and situations. And that even though he’s supernatural and over 1000 years old, they are equals in their relationship…

              And to this note, did anyone notice the multiple times Sookie references Eric finding her to be smart/worth listening to/observant? She’s so happy that she still has something to offer to someone with so much experience. This is a far cry from the constant, irritating condescension that was Bill’s response to her on most everything.

              • 111 MASpencer
                May 6, 2010 at 1:00 pm

                I really like this idea, myself. The way Eric balked and proceeded to melt down at the end of the book was really unattractive. Call me insensitive, but like Sookie, I wanted to shove a boot up his ass at that point. Indecisiveness when swift action is required does NOT suit Eric at all… and more importantly, it’s downright dangerous for him.

                People have also mentioned that Eric’s and Sookie’s qualities seem to be blending in with one another– i.e. she’s taking on his, while he’s taking on hers. I think that’s totally true… but is it going to end up working out to both of their detriments? Will Sookie lose her moral compass and will Eric lose the decisive nature that he needs for his survival?

                I like to think that this blending of personalities will only strengthen them further as a pair, and that it illustrates the point that in a TRUE partnership, you really do NEED the other person, whether it’s offensive to your independence or not. There’s no point in pretending that that’s not true, you know? Obviously, it shouldn’t come at the expense of your own individual identity, but… part of being in a relationship (and especially a marriage) is understanding that your decisions affect more than just you now. And if you don’t like it, well… don’t get married.

                The thing is, this situation seems to be working to the distinct DISADVANTAGE of Eric, and the distinct BENEFIT of Sookie. Sookie is becoming more sure of herself, more fierce… why Eric is regressing into whiny bitchdom. (Sorry, but that little scene he put on at his house in the end was disarming, you can’t deny.)

                To me, this could be representative of the fact that ERIC is currently giving more in this relationship, while Sookie is not quite there yet. Eric sees himself as totally and fully married, in a way that’s obviously recognized by HIS community. But Sookie refuses to return in kind yet, it seems. Her commitment to him, if not her love, is definitely in question right now, I think. Maybe because secretly she feels she isn’t good enough for him– and thus, she doesn’t want to put herself in a weaker position than she already feels she is.

                I feel bad for her, and frustrated at the same time. But I can’t say that I’ve never played those games in past relationships… specifically because I’ve been hurt, too. Makes you think a lot about Appius saying “You’ll never keep him.” On the one hand, it’s a blow to her confidence, because the insinuation is that he’ll leave her. But simply by saying that, Appius made it more likely that SHE’LL leave HIM… if only with the purpose of “shooting” first. (Figuratively, of course. Poor Eric, always taking Sookie’s bullets. LOL.)

                • May 6, 2010 at 1:26 pm

                  Oh I agree MAS that she has really, really laid Eric out there in this book. And Sookie’s ambivalence at some points makes me nervous.

                  Eric has clearly made up his mind that he is in this relationship for reals. Sookie is still holding back a bit. I don’t know if it’s because of Bill and his headfuck, or because of vampires in general or a bit of both. I’m not so much feeling the inferiority complex any more – she marched right on up to that Katherine woman in Fangtasia and introduced herself as Eric’s girlfriend without batting an eye. That shocked me a bit, that’s not the Sookie we knew before who refused to see what was blatantly in front of her face…let alone put a label on it. She’s speaking up with him alot more, she’s taking no fucking prisoners with him actually judging by that ending.

                  Eric has been at a disadvantage because of this relationship since ATD. Sookie’s getting benefits but I’m also seeing her pay a price. She’s struggling with her moral compass worse than she ever has and that too makes me nervous.

                  • 113 Robin
                    May 6, 2010 at 1:32 pm

                    [She’s struggling with her moral compass worse than she ever has and that too makes me nervous.]

                    And that is how we know she truly loves him, she is denying her moral compass to protect him, their relationship and Pam. And that is obvious to all of those people that have noticed that tell her she has changed.

                  • 114 MASpencer
                    May 6, 2010 at 2:52 pm

                    Along those lines, did you notice that when the crazy church lady said she’d call the police, Sookie snapped back that she didn’t like threats?

                    Another subtle (and awesome) nod to True Blood… in addition to the water heaters, basements, surnames, and such. And proof positive that Sookie is MOST DEFINITELY becoming more like Eric, for better or worse.

                  • 115 MASpencer
                    May 6, 2010 at 3:47 pm

                    Just wanted to add that I agree that Sookie is paying her own price with respect to her moral compass, SVB. Although I find it interesting that she explicity notes that her newfound ruthlessness only seems to extend to vampires. I wonder what that means– and it’s something that I’ll be keeping in mind during my re-read.

                    I guess I just wanted to stress that while Eric’s influence seems to be giving Sookie an edge (and a much-needed survival instinct), it seems to be diluting Eric’s edge. And that’s something that may be far more dangerous for him, than whatever effect he is having on her will be.

                    All of that said, if Sookie keeps carrying on about her lack of compunction when it comes to killing vampires, it could be a really big problem for her. A vampire may only have to pay a fine for killing another vampire… but I suspect the price to a human for such a transgression would be less bureaucratic.

                    And with Sookie telling Judith that she killed Lorena (I wanted to smack her! Why would she admit that to someone she had no reason to trust yet???), I have to wonder if she won’t be held accountable for this “manslaughter” in a later book. The circumstances surrounding the new bartender at Merlotte’s might offer a bit of foreshadowing in that regard…

                    • 116 VikingLover
                      May 6, 2010 at 4:40 pm

                      I think that we saw from Eric was both rare and realistic. His depression and indecisiveness (sp?) was as a result of family not politics – our parents (and families) have the power to make us feel like children, powerless, etc no matter how old and confident we are. lol I don’t care how happy a family is, parents will always drive you bonkers. In Eric’s case, he was seeing and dealing with a person who had an incredibly powerful hold over him. The person not only “killed” him but held him hostage and possibly raped him for centuries. He could also command him to do anything – including kill Sookie and even have sex with him against his will – and Eric would have to obey. Can you imagine being around someone like that? I mean, he wouldn’t even let Eric call him by his name for centuries. This was a big deal for Eric – seeing his Maker again. If he hadn’t behaved the way he did, I would’ve had questioned it because it would not have been realistic. I think it was important to see this. If Eric had reacted this way to VM or Felipe or any political issue, then I would have been worried. In this case I wasn’t. I don’t think we’ll see this side of Eric again because now he’s truly free.

                      In regards to Sookie’s moral compass, I think she is reacting to the world around her. I think she’ll find her groove but again, it wouldn’t be realistic if she didn’t get harder and more ruthless – I mean in her world it’s killed or be killed and you have to make a conscious decision to choose your own life over someone else’s. This is the way it will always be for her regardless of whether Eric is in her life or not. She will always be subjected to the supe world now, no matter what.

                      I do think Eric is vulnerable simply because he is in love with a human – and unfortunately this makes him vulnerable to his enemies. But even if Sookie and Eric were not together (God forbid), they will always use Sookie against him no matter what. Now she will always be a vulnerability to him and he will never again be able to make certain decisions w/o considering her safety. But this would be the same if he met someone else – vampire or human. An enemy will always find your weakness. I think it’s just a fact of life in someone in his position.

                    • 117 Dee
                      May 6, 2010 at 5:34 pm

                      VL-I agree that the way he acted with Appius is very different than he would with any other vampire. We saw a weaker Eric, who for once didn’t know exactly what to do. This is very different from the Eric we know, and I think for most of us it was a shock but at the same time when you think about it, it does make sense. Unlike any other vampire, nobody has control over Eric the way his maker does. With the other vamps he knows he either is at an advantage or at least about equal, and knows when to step back a little and do whats best(FDC takeover) he also can protect Sookie and do things for her benefit. This time, he was with the one person who can control his decision and can make him do things he did not want to do. We already saw Pam telling Sookie in the beginning that Eric might not necessarily do what needs to be done because of Sookie, so no matter what he is dealing with, her well being is always in his thoughts. I think this is why he also stayed away from Sookie while Appius was around. If Appius didn’t like Sookie or she did anything to get him mad then I think Eric was very worried about what Appius would tell Eric to do. This was the first time he couldn’t put Sookie first, the first time he had someone to fear and no control over his own actions.

                      This is far from how he would act with Victor. Now that Appius is dead, it’s a good thing because the one person who had control over Eric is gone. Now he just needs to kill Victor, I think with more time passing by of Eric not having control of area 5 like he used to, will just make him snap.

                    • 118 VikingLover
                      May 6, 2010 at 9:10 pm

                      Dee, I agree 100% with you and you make a good point about Eric staying away to protect her. Sookie was VERY snarky with Appius and we don’t know how long he would have put with that.

                    • 119 VampirePamsGirl
                      May 9, 2010 at 2:13 am

                      VL, I definitely agree with you on this one. I think it was even mentioned on the other DITF post about how Eric’s ‘softer’ side was much more noticeable after Appius and Alexei showed up. Before that he was more like normal, even though he’s clearly being threatened by Victor and perhaps FDC who both have higher rankings than him right now. I agree with all your reasonings for Eric’s behavior.

                      As for Sookie’s ruthlessness and her moral compass, I really had no problems with it. In fact, I loved her getting harder and tougher. I think there’s definitely a line too between ruthless and heartless and she’s not crossed it and I don’t think she will. After all, when Alcide pulled his little shit and told her that Annabelle would die if Sookie didn’t take the unknown drug and ferret out the truth, Sookie almost commented “who cares?” but only almost. I also think it’s a good thing that she’s become more ruthless; it is a trait that she’s gotta to have living in the supe world. And honestly she should be ruthless when it comes to protecting her family (which for me absolutely includes Eric and Pam), I know I’d damn sure be a ruthless bitch if there were people wanting to hurt the ones I love.

                      On the Appius/Sookie front, I kinda thought it sometimes seemed like he was almost impressed with her, and defintely quite amused by her. Like on page 304, “She’ll kill me with no compunction, that one,” the Roman said, almost sounding amused.” Like I said before, I kinda liked him a little bit, but I am definitely glad that he’s dead for good cause he just had waaay too much power over Eric, plus his moral compass was royally screwed.

          • 120 Ashley
            May 6, 2010 at 3:57 am

            Yeah i agree, but the reason Sookie was pissed is because Eric hadnt contacted her, and i think she should have been more sympathetic. But i think she tends to blame everything on vamp politics. Like the child having to do what the maker says. I think she resented that, even though she knew it couldnt be helped. But i thought in the end she wasnt unreasonable when she went to see him. But she should have acknowledged what a difficult situation Eric was in.

          • May 6, 2010 at 2:31 pm

            VL what you say makes me think that Eric feels with Appius , the way Sookie felt with Uncle Bartlett.

      • 122 VikingLover
        May 6, 2010 at 3:23 am

        LOL Exactly! Can we mail that letter? 🙂

      • 123 caratstick
        May 6, 2010 at 3:28 am

        Amen, Sister-Girl! Sometimes, it’s like she’s 15. But as Kristin reminded us, in relationship terms, she is still a teenager.

        (ps, the comments on the posts are coming so fast and furious that I can hardly keep up! That’s wonderful news, SVB. And I’m loving everyone’s comments and thoughts.)

  11. 124 VikingLover
    May 6, 2010 at 3:27 am

    I wish Sam would STFU about Eric. I wanted to punch him in the face while they were in the diner. Don’t get me wrong, I think Sam is a great guy and a great friend but I can’t help feeling that Sam is just a bunch of pretty words. He never actually doesn anything concrete for Sookie. Again, it’s nice that he’s there with a shoulder to cry on and an ear to listen but I just feel that he wants a lot of something for a whole lot of nothing.

    • 125 Liz
      May 6, 2010 at 3:56 am

      i agree, Sookie doesnt harp on him about his choices, i suppose they have similar tastes in mates, always going for the bad ass, not sure i like that

    • 126 Kristen
      May 6, 2010 at 4:20 am

      Ditto. The only time I can really remember Sam stepping up was in the Were skirmish (I am lion, hear me roar). Other than that, he seems to be a pretty non-event in Sookie’s life. A lotta talk, no action…

    • May 6, 2010 at 5:38 am

      Sam needs to die. I’ll kill him. No remorse. That would mean we wouldn’t have to hear about the step-by-step divorce proceeding of his mother. And his awesome bar. And how amazing a guy he is and how perfect he’d be for Sookie.

      • May 6, 2010 at 6:34 am

        At least we don’t have to hear about his fucking halo anymore.
        I considered a party when that got cut off, but thought it might be a slight overreaction.

        • May 6, 2010 at 6:51 am

          Sam is a whiny, self-conscious, douche, who also, somehow, has a superiority complex, and yet, has no balls, keeps big secrets, creeps about almost as much as Bill, it seems, and has some sort of dominant woman fetish that has me imagining leather and whips and him on all-fours like a dog. I hate him.

          • 130 Gigi
            May 6, 2010 at 8:54 am

            HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!

          • 131 northmanfan
            May 6, 2010 at 12:52 pm

            “some sort of dominant woman fetish that has me imagining leather and whips and him on all-fours”

            Okay first- LOL! that image is going to stick with me today. However, I don’t agree with the Sam bashing. He’s a good guy with good qualities. Do I want to read about him with Sookie as a romantic interest? Nope. But that doesn’t mean I can’t acknowledge that he’s a decent man.

            • 132 caratstick
              May 7, 2010 at 2:24 am

              I agree! Occasionally SVB manages to make me doubt–she can be very convincing–but I usually fall back to a neutral posture. Friend with maybe a little crush, but not sinister.

              • May 7, 2010 at 2:43 am

                Oh my god woman he REEKS! He does! He reeks even WORSE after this book!

                Oh don’t even START me please don’t LOL.

                • 134 caratstick
                  May 7, 2010 at 3:01 am

                  *dies laughing* I knew that would get you! I said you were very convincing, but sometimes a Sam is just a Sam.

              • 135 nskars
                May 7, 2010 at 2:10 pm

                I would usually agree but DITF has pushed me over the edge. Sam has to back the hell off now. No more friendly diner dinners, no more half hugs, no more “what if” lovers lament crap. Note to Sam: take your feisty nutcase Were gf and scamper off while you still can. Sookie might be blissfully ignorant to your pushing to be more than friends, but we’re not. And sooner or later her Viking lover won’t put up with it anymore.

    • 136 VampirePamsGirl
      May 9, 2010 at 3:15 am

      For me, he was Sookie’s best girlfriend in this one, lol.

  12. 137 Ashley
    May 6, 2010 at 3:31 am

    Oh just thought id throw this out there…
    I know on the first DITF post someone mentioned Sookie and pregnancy, which is supposed to not be possible.
    Well green is actually a color that is symbolic of fertility, and the willingness to bear children. It can also symbolize heightened sexuality. I just thought this was interesting, given that Sookie is wearing a green dress on the cover of DITF. I know this is far fetched, but just a theory.

  13. 141 VikingLover
    May 6, 2010 at 3:37 am

    By the way Guys, how funny was it that we didn’t get to see the entire 1st chapter in that little preview they gave us recently in DAG? That last sentence killing Victor at the end of that chapter changed the entire dynamic! It changed the whole damn feel of that E/S conversation! It was an awesome sentence to end with. They tricked us. lol

    • 142 Ashley
      May 6, 2010 at 3:51 am

      Yeah they did. They wanted us to be all doom and gloom for Eric and Sookie, but that wasnt how the conversation ended. LOL.

    • 143 Dee
      May 6, 2010 at 3:58 am

      I thought of the exact same thing. When I started reading the book, what I wanted to know first is what happens right after that conversation. She gave eric back his pain and yadda yadda lol but that part just shocked me in a good way, didn’t expect it at all.

    • 144 Kristen
      May 6, 2010 at 4:11 am

      YES! I was so surprised by that. Ending that chapter on the note of “Let’s beat some ass as a team” vs “I’m going let you deal with your pain on your own, cause I got enough” WAS SO DIFFERENT! It changed the entire feel of the sequence… those tricky publishers.

  14. May 6, 2010 at 4:40 am

    Merrit I’m going to have to remove your link, I asked in the previous post that no one posts links to torrents for the book.
    Sorry!

  15. May 6, 2010 at 5:34 am

    Ahem. Did anyone else get the visual of the Genie from Aladdin blasting off into the sky going “I’M FREE!” a the end of the book?

    That is my only comment on book 10. For now…

  16. 151 Robin
    May 6, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    Does anyone else see this coming in a future, possibly the next, book? I think Eric is going to ask Sookie to marry him so that she can make an informed decision, to give her the opportunity to choose to be his wife.

    • 152 MASpencer
      May 6, 2010 at 1:04 pm

      I think Sookie needs to ask Eric to marry HER… and I’ve said as much! 😀

      If it happens, I will wet my fangirly pants. That’s all I’m going to say. LOL.

      • 153 Robin
        May 6, 2010 at 1:17 pm

        That could very well happen too. Either way, it would come down to Sookie making an informed choice, her choosing him and accepting the type of future being married to a powerful vampire would bring. Eric has already chosen her as his wife, and I think it is pretty damn obvious he married her, not only to protect her, but because he really wanted to.

    • 155 Robin
      June 6, 2010 at 7:08 pm

      Now that I have had time to reflect on DAG, DITF and the direction CH is taking Eric and Sookie’s relationship in the SVM, something has occurred to me. Eric has declared his feelings of true love and is fully committed as a husband in his marriage to Sookie, we learn this in DITF. IMO, Eric has already chosen Sookie as his HEA.

      At the beginning of the book, Sookie tells Amelia that she loves Eric, even though he can be overwhelming. Throughout the book, you can see Sookie gaining confidence in her feelings of love, and it becomes more evident as she expresses her feelings of love for him to others, as she considers spending her future with Eric, accepts and wants to renew their blood bond and becomes more ruthless and protective of their relationship. At the end of DITF, it is apparent to me that Sookie is deeply in love with Eric, and they have a partnership, but Sookie still does not recognize their marriage as anything more than strategy.

      My prediction. Remember that “moment of clarity” she had about Bill in the hospital at the end of DAG? I think Sookie is going to have another “moment of clarity”, this time about Eric, and she is going to see him with clarity and realize that he TRULY is her husband. And, at that point, that is when she will have chosen her HEA.

      Another prediction. I really do not see CH giving them a human marriage ceremony, their wedding was the pledge with the knife. No children, except maybe raising Hunter. Sookie was raised in the South and always had the idea of a perfect marriage, kids and a house with a white picket fence. There will be none of that. Sookie lives in a much different world than ordinary humans, nothing about Sookie is ordinary, and her outlook on life has changed. But, CH has said that Sookie will be happy.

      Another prediction. Sookie’s “moment of clarity” will be when she faces off with Victor Madden. My guess is that Victor will belittle their marriage and call it a sham. And Sookie will tell Victor in no uncertain terms that he is her husband in every sense of the word before she kills him.

      • June 6, 2010 at 8:46 pm

        OH Robin I LOVE all of this. That would be awesome.
        Agree totally on the human marriage with children. It’s not going to happen.

        • 157 Freyja
          June 6, 2010 at 8:57 pm

          I totally agree with both of you on the ‘human marriage with children’. That is not her life anymore. Even if she would want out of her relationship with Eric, the vampires/sups would not leave her life, she would be more vaulnerable, I’m not saying she’s stuck with Eric but she will never have a ‘normal’ life.
          It’s clear that Eric has chosen his HEA, he is far away from shallow, he does understand that she will grow old and die from him, he has no illusions of turning her, I think that would just destroy their relationship in the end.

          • 158 Robin
            June 6, 2010 at 10:57 pm

            We see so much character growth in Sookie in this book. Sookie really takes the time to reflect on what is going on in the lives of her friends, many are married and having children. She takes a hard look at her own life, sees that it would not be ideal for her to have children even though she would love to be able to.

            Sookie knows her moral compass has changed, and even other characters mention that she has changed. You can see that she has really become a part of the Supe community. Sookie is outgrowing her preconceived notions of a happily ever after.

            I know it really is simple, but it occurred to me that CH will keep it very simple for them. She is going to have a “moment of clarity” and realize Eric has always been her husband, and I would not be surprised if it is during a showdown with Victor Madden.

  17. 159 BohemianJ
    May 6, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    I’m a little over halfway through (hey, I’ve got two kids to raise in between devouring this thing) and I’m just a teensy bit miffed that there has been so little “whoopie”. That’s my only compaint. I was looking forward to a gracious more gracious plenty 🙂

    • May 6, 2010 at 1:18 pm

      I’ve been meaning to get on this bandwagon. WE WERE JIPPED in the GP department. The two sex scenes we had in previous books ran for pages and we were told everything. What the fuck was going on here? A BJ, and one bang that we didn’t even really get to hear about? Are we kicked out of the bedroom now that they’re together or something? I have only a handful of complaints about this book and they’re all fairly minor but this one is up there.

      • 161 MASpencer
        May 6, 2010 at 1:35 pm

        I’m mostly just sad that Eric didn’t kiss her at the end before he left. Whatever the implications of all of these changes are, that would have reassured me that at least SOME things never change.

        Of course, maybe he just didn’t want to gross her out, being covered in fairy blood and all that. Bad excuse, though. *sigh*

        • 162 Robin
          May 6, 2010 at 1:37 pm

          Kind of strange that he said “You are my dearest.” I have never heard of that expression before.

        • 163 KPMRSE
          May 6, 2010 at 4:16 pm

          But it isn’t like he doesn’t know where her shower is. After the all that, which is the past seems to have worked them up into a gracious plenty, you’d think at least a kiss was in order. He’s kissed her randomly for a lot less. Yet he flies off and she crawls into her bedchamber between 2 fairies. Something is up here.

          • 164 Mishia
            May 6, 2010 at 4:34 pm

            Of course the fact that he didn’t kiss her when hyped up on the fairy blood is quite strange when you take into account that a mere whiff of eau-de-Niall had got him all rubbing all over Sookie, not to mention wanting to bite her and fuck her. And here he goes….oh well I got other things to do…..

            • 165 VikingLover
              May 6, 2010 at 4:50 pm

              Yeah, I was a little worried about that too but I have to remind myself that his Maker was just killed. He was in a messed up state of mind and had a lot to recover from – this wasn’t the happy go lucky Eric we’re used to. He had been in an emotional hell the last week. I thought the fact that he said she was his Dearest and told her that as soon as he could, he would be back to her to make up for lost time was very reassuring. Plus she could feel his emotions so she would have known immediately if something had changed. She felt only the end of grief from him and then relief that he was free.

              Plus I think it was a way to tell us that the relationship they have is a lot more than just sex – it’s about being partners and intimacy now.

              • 166 VikingLover
                May 6, 2010 at 4:52 pm

                Plus, I think that the lack of sex in this book was in reaction to everyone saying that Eric and Sookie are just about sex. I think CH wanted to show that they are about much more than that. At least that’s my take on it.

                • 167 Mishia
                  May 6, 2010 at 5:21 pm

                  I guess you could be right about that…it’s just that the reaction of a vampire to fairy blood seemed always very physical to me and not emotional. Maybe it is like a usual drug – if you are happy or angry you get all sexed up…if you are unhappy and depressed, it just deepens the depression, making you behave out of character. But really maybe it is just CH not following her own mythology to the point.

                • 168 Meta
                  May 6, 2010 at 8:25 pm

                  I am reminded of the comment about once she gets her HEA, isn’t there supposed to be alot of sex? I am holding out for firmer gound for those 2!

              • 170 VampirePamsGirl
                May 9, 2010 at 3:24 am

                VL: “He was in a messed up state of mind and had a lot to recover from – this wasn’t the happy go lucky Eric we’re used to. He had been in an emotional hell the last week.”

                Not too mention that he was going back to check on Pam, who despite having some of Jason’s blood and having Jason there with her (poor guy that they just kinda stranded at Eric’s house and took his truck and left him with Pam), Pam was still in a pretty vulnerable position especially considered Eric and Pam still have very powerful enemies out there that are watching Eric’s house. I can get him wanting to hurry home at that time.

                VL: “I thought the fact that he said she was his Dearest and told her that as soon as he could, he would be back to her to make up for lost time was very reassuring.”

                I agree.

                Robin: “Kind of strange that he said “You are my dearest.” I have never heard of that expression before.”

                Eric has referred to Sookie as “dear one” before. I just took this statement as taking that a step further and him telling her that she is the most important thing to him. That being said, Eric does sometimes have a strange way of phrasing things. I take it as being part of all the different languages and inflections in languages that he has lived through. Just my take on it. 🙂

                • 171 VikingLover
                  May 9, 2010 at 3:39 am

                  Hey VPG! You made great points! I started a reread today and apparently Appius was also there to discuss some “very unpleasant business” with Eric. Can’t believe I missed it the first time – I was just so darned focused on E/S! lol It seems to me that was the primary reason that Appius was there and that Alexei was the secondary reason. Once Appius was killed, I’m assuming whatever unpleasant business they were dealing with, was probably going to come to the forefront. Poor Eric – he had a lot on his plate at the end.

                  • 172 VikingLover
                    May 9, 2010 at 3:41 am

                    {I just took this statement as taking that a step further and him telling her that she is the most important thing to him.}

                    Oh, and I took that the exact same way! 🙂 I also love when he calls her his wife. So cute! I like when he asks Appius “what have you done to my wife” or something like that. Or maybe he says “what’s wrong with my wife”. In any case, I loved how that word just rolls off his tongue naturally.

                    • 173 Robin
                      May 9, 2010 at 7:36 pm

                      Thank you VPG, VL, for your thoughts on the dearest comment. I noticed in my reread of the book that Appius used the word dearest in referring to Alexei. I think dearest means “most beloved”.

                      VL, I absolutely love that Eric considers Sookie his wife! It will be interesting to see how those two come to terms with their marriage in the next book.

    • 174 Robin
      May 6, 2010 at 1:23 pm

      I thing CH focused more on intimacy between Eric and Sookie in this book, which to me, is what they really needed more of in their relationship. I would rather see them share intimate moments, see them open up to each other. That was really missing in chapter 10 of DAG.

      • May 6, 2010 at 1:31 pm

        True Robin, the intimacy was certainly there – the talking, the laughing…all that stuff that always go down when they get dirty 🙂

        But dammit, I wanted details.

        Shoot me.

        🙂

        • 176 Robin
          May 6, 2010 at 1:35 pm

          I guess what I was saying is they really opened up to each other about their feelings, and I think that is what CH was trying to focus on. I was kind of shocked they didn’t exchange blood in this book!

          • May 6, 2010 at 1:41 pm

            Excellent observation. Wow, how long since we’ve had a book where she hasn’t had his blood?

            Another sign she is angling to break this bond.

            • 178 Robin
              May 6, 2010 at 1:52 pm

              Even if the blood bond is broken, I think they will renew the bond later. After reading DITF, they both seem to really appreciate the intimacy of the blood bond. Just thought of something, maybe without the BB in place, Eric will be able to better focus on his work and holding his position as Sheriff, be more ruthless.

              • May 6, 2010 at 2:00 pm

                Yeah I agree – I think it will be broken, she said recently it would be. I used to hate the BB, mainly because there wasn’t enough about how it worked for us or for Sookie to know what was really going on with it. I’ve slowly warmed to it, even as Sookie wasn’t but one of the things I liked about DITF was that Harris seemed determined to clear up all the bullshit around the mechanics of the BB and she’s done that.

                It is now clear that it is an emotional conduit and nothing more – it’s not a fucking mind control experiment as some believe. And Sookie seems to have realised that, which is why she seems better with it (thinking to herself she was losing interest in breaking it).

                Ultimately I think it needs to be broken so they can see eachother clearly, but I hope now that they renew it. It will be so much sweeter when they can both do it by choice (I don’t feel Eric had much more choice than she did at the time).

                • 180 Osterby
                  May 7, 2010 at 4:14 am

                  SVB, Sookie hasn’t exactly been without Eric’s blood. At the end of DAG, when Sookie was in the supe hospital, just before Eric gave Sookie a massive quantity of his blood to heal her, Sookie commented that she didn’t feel the bond. She was gravely wounded. At the end of DITF Sookie commented again that she felt a weakened bond, Eric had been physically wounded, ribs sticking out of his chest, and emotionally wounded, the loss of his Maker.

  18. 181 MASpencer
    May 6, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    Okay, so I’m just having panicky thoughts reminiscent of La Boheme– partially fueled, I’ll admit, by the presence of a La Boheme poster in Eric’s office on True Blood, so make of it what you will.

    What if Eric pretends to reject Sookie, just as she comes around to him, in the interest of protecting her life? (She’s obviously got a bounty on her head at this point, presumably due to her relationship to Eric.) Or in the interest of giving her a “normal” life, with sunshine and children? So she spends the next couple of books with another (obviously inferior) suitor, only for the two to come back together… and then she DIES somehow???

    Or, some variation of that, which might involve Sookie doing the rejecting, because it’s clear that her relationship to Eric has left him in a vulnerable position. (That wouldn’t work as well in the books, though, since we hear Sookie’s thoughts, and thus would know she was just pretending.)

    I don’t know if CH has that kind of tragic streak in her, so it may be highly unlikely. But at the risk of veering off topic, now I’m wondering if that’s the endgame that Alan Ball has in mind…

    • May 6, 2010 at 2:26 pm

      Interesting thoughts, MASpencer, but I don’t think that Eric or Sookie would do that because they’re both highly self-interested (and I mean that in the best way possible!) and it’s clear that they both reap a lot from, and highly enjoy, their relationship.

  19. 183 Mony
    May 6, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    CH always said that Sookie thinks that a normal marriage and children was what she wanted but that she may end with not everything she wanted, plus she said many times that Sookie will have children but not hers and not living with her….

    a vampirical marriage it’s not about love it’s about business, only Russel and his husband seems to be an ecception to that….and to Eric who loves her as his truly wife no matter what…
    so i guess we will have the bond broken so Eric could keep his mind focus on Victor…he will understand at the end that it’s a good reason…and maybe renew it…but from this book it’ìs clear that with or without the bond they love each others deeply and that’s sounds more than promising..

    Did you know that CH said 2 days ago she would like to marry Bones from Night Huntress of J.Frost’s books?
    Frost is a HUGE fans of Eric and Bones her character is a blond tall vampire who had a blood bond with a human/vampire girl and they fall for each other..
    CH said after 4th book of Frost was in store that she was reconsidering to write more after Sookie HEA that means write more books with Sookie and his man…
    I guess DITF is the first of this books.

    • May 6, 2010 at 2:38 pm

      “CH said after 4th book of Frost was in store that she was reconsidering to write more after Sookie HEA that means write more books with Sookie and his man…
      I guess DITF is the first of this books.”

      Wow!!! That’s fantastic news!! I have to read the Frost series-I already put in a hold request in at my local library.

      I believe that at a certain point romantic angst just seems to be forced and an easy (and cheap) way to keep drama going. I’ve been hoping that CH won’t overuse the “breaking up, getting back together” sort of drama in her books, and this seems like a promising sign that she is done with that and will focus on the outside drama.

      • 185 VikingLover
        May 6, 2010 at 4:56 pm

        Oh man, I would really love that! Then I could enjoy the mystery aspect of it and not worry about Sookie and Eric breaking up. Honestly, it would such a relaxing and fun read for me. I loved the part of DITF where they (Pam, Eric, and Sookie) were strategizing about VM. I would prefer to read about their adventures together. CH could do a lot with that and make it a fun interesting ride.

        • 186 caratstick
          May 7, 2010 at 2:32 am

          Yes! Sexy but settled and dealing with mysteries and politics. Sookie stops being a freaking waitress (god, her imagining herself as a permanent vampire waitress at Merlott’s was the saddest, most pathetic thing I’d ever read) and puts her telepathy to good use!

  20. 187 Mony
    May 6, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    That what she said in severals interview…”I guess DITF is the First book” is my opinion not Harris’s…sadly…but hey, Bones and 4th books of Frost are really quite good news….
    I have the first book now of Frist…i’m going to read it in the week end…XD

  21. 189 M
    May 6, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    What’s up with the CH interview where she says she wants Sookie to have a happy ending, but we might not like her choice. Does that mean that in the end there will be no Erik and Sookie? That makes me sad!

    • 190 Mony
      May 6, 2010 at 4:54 pm

      i don’t remember that we probably won’t like her choice, i only remember CH said that Sookie might not have the life she wanted but that she will be not unhappy about it.
      she will probably have a life with a business man as Eric is and has to deal with the fact that sometimes she will miss him for work..
      CH said that probably Sookie will keep working on Merlotte’s….Sam is out of running becouse Sookie wont’ ever accept to work unders his man…she is not that kind of woman..absolutly not!

      Well at leat she has one chil yet…Pam!Since she is Eric’s wife in his world…ahahahah^^

    • 191 Dee
      May 6, 2010 at 8:47 pm

      I think she has said that no matter who Sookie ends up with, that there will be disappointed people. Which is the truth and there is nothing Ch can do about it. If Eric doesnt end up with Sookie then all the Eric fans will be upset, If she doesn’t end up with Bill then Bill fans will be upset. Then you have some others who want her with Sam or Quinn, and even saw a few Alcide. So in the end, you will have people who are disappointed no matter what her choice is.

    • 192 LLE
      May 6, 2010 at 9:21 pm

      She said there would be fans that will be happy with that choice and there will be fans that would not be happy with it.

  22. 193 Sibyl_Vane
    May 6, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Anyone else think that Appius’s comment to Sook at the end was as simple as it was written? “You won’t hold on to him either”- or something very close to, makes me think he is just telling her that Eric can’t be tamed/controlled/kept. Eric was released in a way from Appius after they had been together for many years, because he needed to be. I think Appius knows Eric so well that he is convinced he will leave Sook in the end. It doesn’t bode well for us E lovers, in regards to him being the HEA, but that is what I got out of his words. Then again it might be like the comment of Niall’s and CH will give us a BS answer like “that may never be explained.”

    I didn’t love this book- sorry to say. I love the idea of it- but it was lacking for me. I am wondering if I am the only one out there who feels like this? There was very little plot, not much to move along, a lot of holes/unexplained reasons for characters motivations, Eric and Sookie declared love, but didn’t have the interactions that we all love between them. The ending came too fast and too easy for me. The kiss at the end? WTF? That was just lame. I wanted to love this book, and it had some great moments between the characters, but it was not enough for me.

    Everyone is all down on Alcide, but if you look at it from his pov I don’t think he was that much of an ass, way less of an ass than Bill. He did what he had to do to protect a woman he cared about, is he not allowed to care about anyone but sook? I just think it’s possible that Eric might ask her to do something to help with his political position and that she would do it cause that’s who she is. I am not saying E and Alcide are on the same level whatsoever, but it didn’t read that badly to me. CH made it sound like so great betrayl, but it wasn’t that decitful.

    • 194 Dee
      May 6, 2010 at 4:47 pm

      I expect for Alcide to care more about a woman he is with, well at least I would hope so. But I agree that I suspected he would do something worse and just be evil. Compared to what I was thinking, no he wasn’t as bad as I thought he would. I just didn’t like that he would give this drug to Sookie and not know much about it. I think he put her in a dangerous situation to do such a thing. Also, wasn’t the drug old bc it was leftover from the last shaman when they did this. But anyways, he gave her no warning about it just kinda put her on the spot. Felt he could’ve called her and told her about it and what the procedure would be, but he has a habit of doing this. Whenever he asked for help he never tells her ahead of time. Plus could put her in an even worse position to rat people out to their faces, she just made more enemies and they might go after her.

      I do wonder if this is all CH meant by Alcide being devious, or if he’ll do something else in the next book.

      • 195 caratstick
        May 7, 2010 at 2:39 am

        He guilt-tripped her into drinking a drug that he knew nothing about…and even if he had known what it was…who knows what kind of reaction she could have had? She’s not some fucking Were shaman. Grrrr.

    • 196 Mishia
      May 6, 2010 at 5:05 pm

      I am quite torn over this book. I quite liked it right after I finished reading it, although I didn’t like the end much. Maybe I just need to reread it and focus more oon the begging of the book which I really liked.

      I came to conclusion today though that I adore the universe CH created and her vivid imagination but despise her style sometimes and absolutely hate the inconsistencies and glossing over things that need to be explained and focusing on things that really don’t matter (I don’t need to know that Sookie needs to go to the library but I would appreciate knowing what are the terms of pledging etc.)

      I also don’t like that CH regrets the bond. The way she complains about it being a constant source of billion questions from readers just seems lazy to me. I personally like the bond very much, it is a unique connection that helps Sookie and Eric understand each other. That it raises so many questions should be flattering to CH not annoying. That her readers discuss the bond so much and care enough about it to plague her with questions should encourage CH to explore it more and not to wanting to destroy it or wishing in never existed in the first place.

      I also think the kink in the end is just what it is – a kink. At the end of book 9 she threw the “secret-identity-loving-vampire” at us and now the “I want to place doubt in your heart” has been dropped on us. I still hope there will be a HEA featuring Eric, if not that I really don’t get what all the build-up is about….and also I would be really pissed…in fact maybe I should polish the sabre that hangs uselessly on my wall… 🙂

      • 197 Mishia
        May 6, 2010 at 5:24 pm

        *beginning* not begging…sorry

      • 198 lala
        May 6, 2010 at 5:28 pm

        All CH did was deal with the blood bond in this book – and she did slip in physical senations in DITF through the bond. We had always questioned whether ot not it was only for exchanging emotions in the past.

        • 199 Mishia
          May 6, 2010 at 5:38 pm

          I don’t ramble about her putting some info about the BB in the DITF, I ramble about her wanting to get rid of something she created in order to dodge the questionning of her readers. The way she talks about it – it’s like she thinks it was a miscalculation. And I just don’t like that. Maybe her dealing with it in this book could indicate that she changed her mind. But I doubt it.

      • 200 Dee
        May 6, 2010 at 5:58 pm

        I also love the BB between Eric and Sookie and in this book I only saw it as an advantage. It also showed how close they were as a couple, it helps strenghten their relationship. BUT one thing I hate about the BB is that so many people think this is the reason they are even together. I read comments about how they’re together only because of the BB and anything they do for eachother gets discredited. It makes some people ignore the evident love they have for eachother. You even see how CH makes sure to address some of the confusion in the books. Such as Eric telling her that he felt her pain during the fae war not just because of the bond but because of the love he has for her.

        I do think there are other ways to handle all the annoying BB questions other than breaking the bond. She can have someone in the books explain it to Sookie, somehow letting her know that if she feels love for Eric it has nothing to do with the BB and any other confusion. But then some people do take it to another level and turn it into a mathematical equation. That should just be ignored, deal with the other side of it.

        I’ll be glad for them to see how real their love is if the BB is broken but i’ll be sad to see it gone too.

      • 201 Ashley
        May 7, 2010 at 2:42 am

        Yeah exactly, why all the buildup for 8 books if Eric isnt the one in the end…i will be so pissed if Eric is the one that I dont think i will be able to look at the books the same way at all. Its the same with Buffy and Spike. I was so pissed about what happened that i cant even watch the last season. It was too disappointing.

      • 202 Dina
        May 7, 2010 at 3:41 am

        Your post describes my feelings pretty closely. Still, I love CH’s vivid imagination.

    • 203 lala
      May 6, 2010 at 5:33 pm

      I think the Alcide deceit will come in the next book. There’s more to the story than drinking a potion. In my opinion.

      I did not enjoy this book as much as I thought I would have. And for many of the reasons you’ve stated, and more.

      • 204 Skarlove
        May 6, 2010 at 8:45 pm

        Okay, finished last night after midnight, then woke up super-early for work. I had warned my husband in advance that I was not to be disturbed! I have to say (upon first read), that I am disappointed as well. Maybe it will grow on me, and as many posters have said already – there is a lot of great stuff. I love Sookie’s strength, Jason’s newfound maturity, Hunter, Pam’s….well, Pam’s EVERYTHING, cuz I just love Pam.

        I must say, however, that this version of vulnerable Eric was really disconcerting. This was nothing like his sensitive portrayal in DTTW. He was still a strong, three dimensional character there – even suffering from amnesia! My beloved Viking was bordering on pathetic, and I really had a tough time with that.

        I am planning on re-reading immediately, and I hope I can discern more of the nuance others have discussed. Perhaps I had just built it up in my mind to be something it couldn’t live up to…….but there are just so many things that gnaw at me about this installment!

        For starters, the Felicia and Bobby situation,the lack of VM/FDC closure, Eric’s almost complete mental incapacitation once his maker arrives, the lack of any revelations about Amelia (whoosh, just gone and now sends an occasional email?), Claude’s turnaround to Mr. Nice Guy, Sam – OH GEEZ don’t let him be her HEA!!!!!!!

        Next, what is the point of this new Kennedy bartender and her tag-along bodyguard? Should I just file them away for later?

        I also find it a bit sickening that Bill can find new love with his “sister”, who happens to resemble his dead wife? Did that creep anyone else out? Of course, creepy is as creepy does, so he shouldn’t surprise me. (I did enjoy the culmination of the Bellefleur family saga, though.)

        Then, the “deciet” of Alcide – not half as bad as I thought he could have done. Hell, giving Sookie some hallucinigens might be the best thing that ever happened to her! She gets so caught up in moral dilemmas/Christian dogmas sometimes that she could stand to think outside the box a bit. Not saying we should have the Sook go all Timothy Leary on us, but a little trip down psychelic lane could do her a WORLD of good. I’m sorry if this offends anyone- she could have said no. He wasn’t holding a gun to her head.

        The end – SIGH. I gotta say, it just didn’t do it for me this go-round. It seemed like CH ran out of ideas on how to finish, and just stopped short. Plus, the whole Fairy bedtime slumber party was SO reminiscent of the end of Return of the King. Remember when all the action concludes with Golem and the ring, everyone goes back to the Shire and they all bounce on the bed together? Having a big pillow-fighty giggle-fest? Completely anti-climactic!

        I wanted to love this book so badly, but didn’t. I’m going to get back on the horse again in the next day or too……after I stop pouting.

        • 205 Skarlove
          May 6, 2010 at 8:48 pm

          “Deceit”……hee hee. ” I before e, except after c!” Sorry, spelling dork here!

        • 206 MASpencer
          May 6, 2010 at 10:00 pm

          Skarlove, I was wondering whether Kennedy’s presence wasn’t there to foreshadow trouble for Sookie in upcoming books. We know she did time for manslaughter, but we don’t know what the circumstances were. (I got the abusive husband/boyfriend vibe, myself.) Whatever the case, she seems like a “good” person, even though the community is quick to judge her as a murderer.

          I took notice of how vocal Sookie has been about her desire to kill certain vampires– and also how she told Judith (whom she doesn’t know from a hole in the ground!) that she killed Lorena. I don’t think that was very smart, despite Judith’s initial reaction. Not smart AT ALL.

          If Judith has a thing for Bill, but gets jealous because Bill rejects her for Sookie (and let’s face it… that’s just the kind of insipid mooning we would expect from him), Judith could turn against her and “report” her to vampire authorities for Lorena’s murder. Eric may have only had to pay a fine for staking Longshadow… but I imagine the punishment for human vampire killers is much harsher.

          Anyway, Sookie needs to shut her mouth about her death fantasies when in certain company. Loose lips sink ships… and being “married” to an area sheriff makes hers the equivalent of the Titanic. SO many people could use that information against her– and against Eric, by proxy.

          • 207 Skarlove
            May 6, 2010 at 10:27 pm

            Good call about Sookie’s past deeds returning to haunt her. I thought that would have happened in this book somehow, especially when we found out that Debbie Pelt would still be an issue. I completely agree with you on all points – and thanks for the Kennedy input. I wonder if she’ll carry over to the next book, or just be forgotten in the mix.

            • 208 MASpencer
              May 6, 2010 at 10:32 pm

              Yeah, I thought so too, actually. But I guess since she already settled that score with the Pelts it was no big deal?

              Still, that could be its own type of foreshadowing…

        • 209 northmanfan
          May 6, 2010 at 10:56 pm

          “Eric’s almost complete mental incapacitation once his maker arrives,”

          I think that’s pretty telling with regard to his relationship with Appius. Eric’s incapacitation, to me, served at least two purposes. It lets us know that overall, eric’s time with Appius was not good. It marked him indelibly. He didn’t want to kill him, but he certainly didn’t want to be around him. Second, it showed us that when eric was “down for the count” that sookie was strong enough to get him moving. Partners have to do that for eachother at times. Eric even did something similar with sookie when she was depressed after Bill left in Club Dead. He told her to get out of bed and get moving. To me, in DitF, sookie did the same for him.

          • 210 VikingLover
            May 6, 2010 at 11:18 pm

            I agree Northmanfan. I think it was important for us to see this becuase it made them truly partners. Plus it showed us that Eric is 3 dimensional which is good.

            • 211 Skarlove
              May 7, 2010 at 12:10 am

              I see what you’re saying, but I think there is one particular moment when Eric (no matter how powerless he feels his maker has rendered him) would have stepped back up to the plate. When Sookie and Jason arrive at his house, and he’s sitting forlornly on the sofa with his ribs sticking out, we find out Pam has also been injured. I honestly don’t think that the Eric I know and love could just leave Pam in that state to fend for herself. It seemed completely out of character to me. This is the same Eric who managed to help Sookie save Pam at Rhodes in daylight and still fly (if bumpily)!

              What if Sookie and Jason hadn’t shown up? What would have happened then? I like that Sookie can be the “strong one”, really I do. Eric’s weakness in this book humanizes him even more in her eyes, I’m sure. That may help her to accept his love later with more ease than she is willing to currently tackle.

              Her newly-found strength could also have fouled things up severely if she had murdered Appius. I know she lost her nerve, but she would have been ecstatic if someone else had done it for her! Even though she knew Eric didn’t want him dead, it would have been the perfect end to the scenario in her mind……Someone said in an earlier post (sorry! I can’t remember who) that this is her “high-handedness” coming to the forefront.

              I don’t know; it seems like once she got over her PTSD (too quickly to be believable in my opinion), she went in the complete opposite direction, and passed her own traumatic emotions to Eric……perhaps symbolizing the tear she gave back to him in the beginning?

        • 212 Ashley
          May 7, 2010 at 2:53 am

          I think the end was basically so abrupt because they were both drained and Sookie was still high on those drugs, they werent all the way worn off, and Eric was high on the fairy blood, so it was kinda abrupt and like ill see you later. To us it seems weird, but in Sookies world she knows she’ll see Eric soon. Its not like their relationship is up in the air anymore. They are established. Sookie still has hangups, but she’s progressed. She just has trust issues, and honestly i would too after the complete disaster that was Bill. And the fairy war torture. So Eric is being punished. Its not fair but true. Shell get over it. Sookie also automatically distrusts Eric because of his reputation before they were together. And i think he can be overwhelming. What we need is grand gestures, on both of their parts, to show the other once and for all that they are the one.

          Oh, and i dont think Sam will be her happily ever after. I cant see it happening, and if it does ill be disappointed. Theyve bothe gotten to a place of good friendship and trust, but that doesnt always translate into a relationship. I cant Sookie being satisfied with Sam. Her life would be boring. And yes Eric could protect her if he became King, but what kind of excitement and adventure would she have with Sam?! Sookie may bitch about being so involved in the supe world sometimes, but she ultimately enjoys it. It gives her life meaning, makes it more exciting, and she’s had lots of adventure. I dont think she can turn back now, and i honestly think she doesnt truly want to. If she tried a “normal” relationship with Sam, i really think it wouldnt work out. So i think Eric is her HEA. I dont think Bill has a chance. I hope he finds someone else, or something. Too many people would be pissed off if it was Bill.

    • 213 nskars
      May 7, 2010 at 2:28 pm

      Yeah but we just expect Bill to be an ass cos that’s how he rolls. He’s a skulking pathetic ass. Alcide really talks up the whole “Sookie is a friend to the pack” crap and so I guess there’s those of us out there who want him to walk his talk. To me he’s not treating her like a friend to the pack – he bullied her and used her good nature, yet again, to get something out of it for himself, yet again.

      No disrespect intended at all – you have your opinion and I have mine. I guess I’m just sick of Alcide and his Were bullshit.

      • 214 VampirePamsGirl
        May 9, 2010 at 3:43 am

        I’m with you on this one nskars! Not only is Sookie supposed to be a friend of the pack, but she is also supposed to be Alcide’s friend, but yet he doesn’t (and hasn’t) treated her the way you should treat a friend. Half the things that he’s tricked or coerced Sookie into doing were things that she probably would have ended up doing anyway if he’d only explained the situation to her and asked. A lot of the time with Alcide it’s not even so much what he does but just how he does it that makes me dislike him. It always makes me think of the book when Eric comments on Alcide using Sookie and she’s like “And you don’t?” and Eric replies something like “Yeah, but at least I am upfront with it.”

        But I do have to admit that after hearing CH’s comments, I was thinking the Alcide betrayal in this book would be much worse than what it was.

  23. 215 KPMRSE
    May 6, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Another thing that makes me wonder – Eric knew that Bobby was dating Felicia – someone he knew was a SPY – and yet he allowed Bobby to bring her to his house. Wonder how much information was passed through to FDC/Victor before Alexei got a hold of them.

    • 216 VikingLover
      May 6, 2010 at 5:00 pm

      KP, I didn’t understand that either. Why would he let Felicia come to his house all of a sudden? Very strange. At least she’s dead now. Of course she was dating Bobby – he was Eric’s right hand man and knew many details about Eric’s business.

      • 217 VikingLover
        May 6, 2010 at 5:07 pm

        Actually now that I think about it – maybe it was the first time she had been there? I think his Maker had him all crazed and he was not thinking clearly. I don’t think he would have allowed her in his house before the day his Maker showed up.

      • 218 Mishia
        May 6, 2010 at 5:13 pm

        I doesn’t seem plausible to me that Eric would let his dayman date the spy without ensuring his safety and the integrity of his business and area first. Also Bobby seemed mightily sure that Eric would protect him if Appius got a sweet tooth. What I think is that Eric either glamoured Bobby to not say anything to Felicia or to feed her false information or to get information out of her (although I can’t really imagine that Bobby would be shrewd enough to be a fanger007). But to do nothing about it…and let her into the house…that would just be insane.

    • 219 Serena
      May 6, 2010 at 5:21 pm

      I hafta say, I really like all this spy business. 🙂 I didn’t think Felicia worked for Victor, er at least Eric seemed to suggest she works for Texas or elsewhere, but who knows. Maybe she was THE rat, but I don’t think so. I wonder if there will be repercussions from her death.

      And then who is watching Eric’s house? Did the same spy see Sookie get abducted? Why doesn’t Sookie or Eric detect them? I would think they would know if there was a vamp sitting outside the house… and Pam went outside while they were busy BJing. They must have great spy gadgetry or be very shifty. lol.

      Also, at first I thought Rasul was the spy in New Orleans, but then we found out he is in Michigan, is this just a misrepresentation or are there 2 spies working for Eric?

    • May 7, 2010 at 1:11 pm

      I’ve been a lurker here for awhile. Just wanted to add my two cents…

      If Eric knew that Bobby is dating Felicia, I don’t think he would entrust Bobby with stuff that can be used against him. I agree with Mishia that maybe he glamoured Bobby to not say anything or to feed her with false information. I think Eric is devious enough to know how to handle that situation. And he did say that he’s keeping proofs of his competence in different places so he has his back covered.

      As to Felicia being in his house that time, it might just be a slip on his part because of the Appius-Alexei situation.

    • 221 VampirePamsGirl
      May 9, 2010 at 3:46 am

      Yeah, it seems like Felicia received a lot of responsibilities for a spy. And she was also the one that Eric sent to help Bill with shipping out his database and giving him blood.

    • 222 Robin
      June 6, 2010 at 11:16 pm

      I think Felicia may have been a spy for another state, maybe Oklahoma. Afterall, Felicia was at the house while Appius was there, and Appius had come from Oklahoma. Maybe they were discussing plans concerning Victor Madden and FDC? I think the ruler of Oklahoma is Freyda.

  24. 223 lala
    May 6, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    MASpencer: I would not be the least surprised if Alan Ball went all tragic at the end of True Blood, because I do not put anything past him (re: maenad season 2).

    I wish CH would take a few tips from Jeaniene Frost – her heroine, Cat, is great- tough, yet vulnerable and thoughtful – the pace of the books is like being on a wild ride – you have to hold on tight -and you feel invigorated when you read her books. I am happy to hear that CH may be exploring more options for Eric + Sookie’s future – because there are possibilities.

    • May 7, 2010 at 1:19 pm

      I like the Cat&Bones series but I see it as more of an action book and the Sookie Series as more of a world creation/character building series that heading towards a specific end. I like the Sookie Series better I think but I can’t compare them. But I like Cat more as a heroine than Sookie 😀

  25. 225 lala
    May 6, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    M: I hope CH relents and turns Sookie vampire.

  26. 226 BohemianJ
    May 6, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    FINISHED the bugger! And I’m starting it all over again to pick up on the little things that I may have skimmed over. Man, did Eric have a lobotomy or something?!?!? His…well,everything changed. Where’s the cockiness, arrogance and pride that we all loved? I know the vamp was troubled with A.L.O. and all, but it was almost as if Eric shut down. I did not like the subordinate aspect viking at all. And, ok, so the romance was nice but I still would like at least a short story or something between now and next year detailing a S/E love scene. I feel robbed.

  27. 228 Mony
    May 6, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    Sam’s Brother Wedding is in the upcoming novella “Small Town Wedding.”

    • 229 BohemianJ
      May 6, 2010 at 5:49 pm

      And isn’t there also going to be a short story about Quinn???

      • 230 Mony
        May 6, 2010 at 8:00 pm

        I’ve just read that the Novella will involved Sam and Quinn and that Quinn will revealed to Sookie about him, a kind of sharing moment, and about what happened with FDC and how he was punished.
        This NOvella will have impact on the nex books.That was posted on CH site.

    • 231 Robin
      June 6, 2010 at 11:28 pm

      What bothered me was Sookie never discussed with Eric her plans to go to Texas with Sam. And, the next thing we are going to read is that she is leaving for Texas in the novella? You would think that CH would want to include that conversation prior to them leaving since Sookie has made such an issue about it in her thoughts while talking to Sam. IDK, maybe at the beginning of the novella they will have the conversation or she will reflect on the conversation she had off page for the reader.

  28. 232 Barbara E
    May 6, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    Ok, I’ve read enough spoilers to have a good feeling of what to look for beneath the layers when I go to read the book here later today. I know I should have left it be a complete surprise, but I’ll be popping up and down doing other things in prep for an important guest tomorrow night that I’m sure I would have missed important nuances otherwise.

    From what I read, my impression is that DITF is a major transition book … and that the next book will have something huge happen. Hmmmm.

    Stay frosty my friends. I’m off until I finish the book.

    =k

  29. 233 kristin(with an i)
    May 6, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    This is totally random, but I can’t help but think about how after all of the carnage at Eric’s house, when he and Sookie hurry back to her house in Jason’s truck to deal with Alexei and the whole big bad Shakespearean ending, they consequently leave Jason stranded alone with Pam in Eric’s blood-covered living room. I’m sorry, I know it’s probably not important at all, and I know this is a necessary omission of Sookie’s first-person narration, but for some reason, I would just kill to sit in on that scene!

    Jason’s probably pretty woozy, having just donated blood to Pam, and Pam’s still a bit angry and in quite a bit of pain on the sofa. This is a situation rife with comedic potential. They’re basically waiting for Pam to heal or someone to return, right? They’ll have to talk about something. I’m imagining that the conversation might involve Jason’s version of what just happened at Alcide’s (probably pretty funny, what with his watching Sookie perform under the influence of some unnamed hallucinogen) and Pam’s version of what happened at Eric’s (guaranteed to be all shades of snarky)…

    anyway, sorry for my randomness. had to share. did anyone else dwell on that?

    • 234 Dee
      May 6, 2010 at 7:52 pm

      Jason and Pam were also waiting for the vamp cleaning service. Remember Sookie called the vamp cleaning service and requested for them to come out, she told jason that they were on there way so he waited for them.

      • 235 kristin(with an i)
        May 6, 2010 at 8:08 pm

        right, but didn’t they tell her they’d be there in something like 3 hours?

  30. 236 Liz
    May 6, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    what if the long term effects of Sookie drinking the drug will let her hear supes………

  31. 237 kelly
    May 6, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    i’ve just read the book (after a naughty download).

    can i just say how happy i am about bill’s new situation. i think it is the nicest way charlaine could have laid the whole thing to rest.

    i am however slightly concerned about sam, and the whole were situation. this is like a redux of what sookie has just been through with the vamps. poor girl just ain’t getting a break, tho at least she wasn’t badly injured this time

    so glad i can come back to posting here 😀

    • May 6, 2010 at 9:25 pm

      I loved Bill this book. Seriously. He was one of the few things I liked. I’m glad he has a happily ever after with Judith. It’s good for him to have a new hobby that isn’t stalking or pursuing Sooki.

    • 239 Sara
      May 7, 2010 at 1:16 am

      In regards to Sam…did anyone else think that the fact he cut his hair so short was some sort of foreshadowing? Throughout the books Sam’s “halo like” longish hair has been mentioned numerous times. Now all of a sudden he has cut his hair really short and it is commented on significantly. Could this be a subtle hint at a change in the character of Sam, perhaps his halo has gone on vacation…possible rat anyone?!?

      Perhaps I have become entirely too fixated on hair as relates to SVM and TB as a result of the recent Eric hair fuckery on HBO.

      • May 7, 2010 at 1:28 am

        No Sarah I commented yesterday somewhere about Sam’s ever present halo being literally cut off. I don’t think this was inconsequential.

        Collie is stinkier than ever in this book.

      • 241 MollyS
        May 7, 2010 at 4:00 am

        I thought it was possibly symbolic of moving on from the hope of a relationship with Sookie, like when you break up with someone and color or cut your hair. But I don’t want her to end up with Sam, so this could just be me looking for symbols to support my hopes! : )

        • 242 Robin
          June 6, 2010 at 11:57 pm

          Molly, it was definitely symbolic that Sam cut off his halo of hair, but I am not sure it has anything to do with his hope of a relationship with Sookie. There have been times that I thought Sam was a fairy and could shift like the fairy Preston Pardloe. The only other reason I can see for him to cut his hair is if he is still in the military, and his haircut is government related. Maybe that is why Antoine was not fired? But, I am afraid that it may be something more sinister than just that. I really hope Sam doesn’t hurt Sookie in the way that Bill hurt her.

  32. 243 Willowbella
    May 6, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    This is my first forum post…ever. I’m excited about this book and was just bursting to chat some about it. I figured this blog would be more welcoming, given my Viking affiliations. 😉

    I just finished DitF and have a couple of theories (so far) regarding the possible future for E/S.

    Did anyone else think that the present E refers to might be a left-handed diamond? ♥

    His statement is wedged right between two very revealing comments: – “I know this is your business, since we’re married – something I’ve insisted on and you’ve belittled” and – “You are my wife, in the only way that matters to me.”

    I’m assuming when he says “only way that matters to me” he does NOT mean politically (despite what the BLs are arguing) but means she is his wife in his heart. Given the context and the 3 words that preface that line there is no way he can mean anything else.

    Basically, I felt he was admitting to her that he values their ‘marriage’ but is aware that she is not as accepting of it as he is. It means more to him than it does to her at this point and knowing Eric he will be intent on changing that. So I thought he might be considering approaching marriage from a more traditional, human standpoint. One that Sookie could understand and put stock in. Hence an engagement ring.

    Maybe it was just me and my wishful thinking. I can’t help but root for this theory though. It would be so much better than if he gave her say…a lilac dress. 🙂

    ** Sorry if I am repeating what has gone before. I’ve tried to catch up on all the posts here but might have missed a few.

    • 244 Dee
      May 6, 2010 at 8:39 pm

      Welcome Willowbella!!!!

      I felt the exact same way you did about how Eric felt regarding their marriage. You can tell that for him it wasn’t about business. Yes, he did it to protect Sookie but then again that alone shows how he feels. He wants to protect her because he does love her and truth is that as far as vamp business goes, wasn’t the wise choice for Eric to pledge himself to Sookie at least not in a way that would benefit his position in the vamp world. He loves her and doesn’t mind being pledged to her because reality is he wants to be with her in that way.

      But WOW I didn’t even think of the present, I wondered what he would get her but wow the possibility that it can be a diamond ring is exciting!!! You are right that it is also when he tries to tell Sookie that she is his wife in the only way it matters to him. To him being married to someone in vamp world is the equivalent of how Sookie would look at it if they were married in human terms. Which I am sure that to Eric being married in the human term doesn’t mean as much to him, the same way vamp marriage doesn’t to Sookie. So maybe he does realize that in order for it to mean the same thing to Sookie, then they would have to do it the human way too for her to accept it. Honestly, it is the only way. Now you have me even more excited for the next book, I know that we don’t really know if this is his intention but it definitely is a possiblity, good thinking!!!!

      • 245 Robin
        May 6, 2010 at 9:54 pm

        On pages 65-66, Sookie is speaking with Hoyt and Holly about their engagement, and she takes the time to think that if they had an evening wedding then Eric could go with her. That would transform her from “poor Sookie who hasn’t even ever been engaged” to “Sookie who brought the gorgeous guy to the wedding.” Then she goes on to reflect that she is beginning to feel like an “old maid” and “on the shelf at twenty-seven.” So many of her high school friends are married and having children.
        I think there was a reason that CH placed Sookie’s thoughts on marriage early in the book.

        I think CH, in her writing, clearly wants us to know that Eric considers them married, and Sookie definitely does not. Sookie continues to refer to Eric as her “boyfriend” throughout the book, and you can tell towards the end of DITF he starts to become upset that she will not accept the marriage, as he does. Yes, in the next book or two, I think Eric will ask Sookie to marry her in the way that she recognizes. It was not a coincidence that CH placed a blurb in DAG (or maybe FDTW) about vampire-human marriage being legalized in the state of Louisiana.

    • 246 MASpencer
      May 6, 2010 at 9:48 pm

      If Sookie and Eric are going to get an HEA, there will definitely be a “human” marriage involved… and I very much like the way you think!

      Of course, I also like the idea of Sookie asking Eric. (It’s about time she laid it on the table for him.) But after his display of weakness in this book, it would be very refreshing to have the take-charge Viking back in full force.

      Anyway, I’m pretty convinced there will be a proposal of SOME kind, barring everything going to hell in a handbasket. And the “gift” does seem like it could be a good clue! (Unless he plans to send her another fairy to fuck. LOL.)

      • 247 VikingLover
        May 6, 2010 at 11:07 pm

        OMG, that would be so freaking awesome! I want them get married in human terms as well as vampire terms. That would be amazing.

        • 248 Skarlove
          May 6, 2010 at 11:46 pm

          I agree! I think that would put Sookie on the road to the “validation” she craves….on par with all of her old schoolmates whose lives she sees moving forward with marriage and kids. If she ends up with Hunter, they’d be a great family. I did love how Eric smiled at him in the bedroom.

          • 249 Willowbella
            May 7, 2010 at 2:49 am

            Sorry I just worked out how to reply on a thread rather than just posting at the bottom. Duh! Like I said, I’m new to this. :/

            Definitely big, sparkly, ring shaped present needed. Preferably followed by a wedding…eventually. I’d be annoyed if the books ended with the promise of a future wedding but not an actual wedding on the page. The readers HAVE to get to share it. I’ve followed this girl’s love life for too long, no matter who she marries I wanna be at her wedding!

            Robin mentioned (a bit further down) that maybe Sookie would start recognizing their vamp marriage if she could just present the knife to Eric by choice. I think it would be so sweet if she did this and would mean a lot to him. I’m sure I’m not the only one who thinks it was significant that he cut himself in Rhodes but NOT her. Almost like he was giving himself/tying himself to her but was not expecting the same in return. Presenting the knife in front of Victor showed her accepting Eric as her ‘husband’ in vamp terms but I think, in terms of the wider narrative and character development, it revealed more that he’s hers at that point (especially when he vaults over the desk to hold her *sigh*).

            I have a feeling the one sided use of the knife might mean she’s not as bound to him as he is to her. Therefore Sookie using the knife on herself would be a meaningful way for her to show that she is his and wants to have the same place in his life as he craves in hers.

            I’d be happy with any kind of wedding. I’m sure Hunter will be ring bearer and I hope to see Pam as best man (not that I’m trying to show a groom preference or anything)! 😀

            • 250 caratstick
              May 7, 2010 at 3:04 am

              [I have a feeling the one sided use of the knife might mean she’s not as bound to him as he is to her. Therefore Sookie using the knife on herself would be a meaningful way for her to show that she is his and wants to have the same place in his life as he craves in hers.]

              There is a fanfiction (maybe “Eric” by DeeDee? I’ve read so many I can’t keep them straight.) that I think runs with this idea.

              • 251 Willowbella
                May 7, 2010 at 4:05 am

                TY Cara! I haven’t read any fanfics yet. I’m new to SVM and TB. Just finished the books in like 2 weeks and watched the box sets in 2 weekends. Is ‘Eric’ by DeeDee a good one to start with (since it upholds my theory)? 😉

                I know, not relevant to the book discussion…sorry! I’ll bring it back to topic.

                Sookie has always wanted to belong and fit in and I think she sees having her own family (with or without kids) as the ultimate way to do that. Obviously the husband is kind of a key part of that! I don’t think she has seriously considered marrying a vamp before but I think it’s established in this book that she would consider it now. Her view of family up to this point has been fairly traditional but here it changes and she definitely starts to see ‘family’ in a wider, more diverse sense. Hopefully this means her idea of a suitable potential husband has also broadened, which surely means the Viking is in with a chance. I’m kinda hoping the more I justify this the more likely it is to happen. 🙂

                • May 7, 2010 at 4:57 am

                  “Eric” is probably the best fanfic out there to start with – it’s the books rewritten from Eric’s point of view and it’s very well done.

                  I completely agree with what you’re saying about Sookie’s view of family. I’ve long been saying that Sookie’s idea of what she wanted from life (children, white picket fence etc) has been informed by her narrow world view at the start of the books. Not saying there’s anything wrong with wanting those things – but when she made that decision she was living in a very insulated world. Now she is not. And she can’t go back.

                  And there were definitely indications that her idea of family is broadening in this book – her acceptance of Claude and Dermott (and even Niall before him), taking Jason back into her fold, a deepening relationship with Eric and Pam, and the beginnings of a relationship with Hunter. This book was soooo appropriately titled LOL.

                  • 253 VikingLover
                    May 8, 2010 at 4:35 pm

                    I also found it interesting that there was trouble in “paradise” for JB and Tara. Sookie viewed that relationship in DAG as how “things were supposed to be” and now we see that Tara is starting to get a little bit unhappy in her choice. Has CH started knocking down this “ideal” family view in Sookie’s mind? I also found it interesting that while JB put Tara’s body down, we were shown Eric reassuring Sookie about hers. Loved that! 🙂

                    • 254 caratstick
                      May 8, 2010 at 4:53 pm

                      That’s a good point, VL. I don’t know if it’s “trouble” but I do think it’s good for Sookie to see that no relationship is perfect–although she already realized what Tara was giving up to be with dumb as a post JB.

                • 255 Mia
                  May 8, 2010 at 1:17 pm

                  “Eric” is a good one. The writer is very insightful.

                  If you get interested in fanfic, there is another series by an author – Meg2 – written after DAG and before DITF, which I found enjoyable too. Plus she publishes the complete book so you don’t have to wait for chapter after chapter to be posted.

            • 256 Robin
              May 9, 2010 at 7:51 pm

              Willowbella, absolutely love your thoughts here! I have always wondered if there was some significance to Eric using the knife to cut himself during the blood exchange in Rhodes, too. Following the release of ATD, I think many wondered if it meant they were married, but we now know that was not the case because they were married in DAG. But, what we do not know is did the use of the knife have some significance in their marriage ceremony. Victor Madden did not mention anything about being cut by the knife when he explained the pledging to Sookie. I would be interested to hear others thoughts on this subject, or maybe CH has commented about it?

    • 257 VampirePamsGirl
      May 9, 2010 at 4:02 am

      *waves hi to WillowBella* Welcome to the our little zoo, lol, and the crazy world of SVM and TB. I think you’ll find a lot of interesting stuff on this site. SVB has really put together a wonderful place here for all of us!

      Viking affiliations? Yep, you’ll fit in just fine around here, haha. 😉

      I loved what you said about Eric’s statement (only way that matters to me) meaning that he sees Sookie as his wife in his heart. That is exactly how I interpreted that statement as well and what made it one of my favorite lines from the book.

      And I love your conjecture about the present. I would so be fangirl screaming if that happens, lol.

      BTW- I really like your screen name. Don’t know if it’s supposed to be related or not, but it is two characters that I love, lol. Yes, I am an uber-geek for all things vampire. 😀

  33. 258 Mony
    May 6, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    THIS IS WHAT C.HARRIS SAID ABOUT BREAKING THE BOND…..

    Q: Are you trying to figure out a way to get rid of it before the end of the series?

    CH: Oh, I know how to get rid of it. It’s just trying to do it in a way that contributes to the plot . . . yeah, it is tricky.

    soooo is it a trick??that could be the “devious” thing….
    Sookie is tired in the end, she felt her body diffently and then she fall asleep….
    i have strange feelings about that

    • 259 Mishia
      May 7, 2010 at 9:23 am

      If you look at it the breaking of the BB could initiated by 3 parties:

      1. Sookie – Sookie may decide to get rid of it for several reasons: Eric becomes a king and she can’t handle it/her pursuing her dream of human life with children, dog and a picket fence/her stopping drinking Eric’s blood so the BB fades away/ Eric not picking up the towels etc. – there is even a mention in DITF that the witches may know a way to break the bond but Sookie actively seeking to get rid of it would not bode well for the pair. Besides the mood of the DITF sorta indicates that she has been coming to terms with the bond.

      2. Eric – even he could pursue this idea. He might want to let Sookie have her damn picket fence, he might find it overhelming and clouding his reasoning when he needs to be decisive and sharp, it may be a way to protect Sookie somehow….but I think that Eric likes the bond and the fact that it brings him closer to Sookie, unless she does something horrific I can’t really imagine him wanting to deliberately break it.

      3. Third party – there might be an outside force wanting to separate the two. And hell, there are several candidates – Victor or Felipe, the fairies (Niall did offer Sookie to end the tie), the witches (there might be some forgotten allies of Hallow wanting a revenge), old flames (Quinn has been kinda quiet for a while), some new threat wanting Sookie (she can still discover some interesting facts about her heritage – we still don’t know where did she get her telepathy from) etc.

      But if CH wants to integrate the breaking of the BB into the story without disrupting the plot which I still believe means that Sookie ends up with Eric (so help me god if she doesn’t) neither Eric nor Sookie can really do it. It would be a fairly aggressive act that would be a serious blow to their relationship and the way CH writes I don’t think that she would have time to resolve it before the ending of the series. So a think a third party doing it is the most possible outcome. What do you think?

      • 260 Robin
        May 7, 2010 at 11:09 pm

        Possibly, Eric and Sookie discuss that the bond is weakening and instead of exchanging blood again, they make a decision together to let it continue to weaken. I think they choose to let the bond continue to weaken so that Eric can really focus on maintaining his position as Sheriff. Maybe they decide that he is too distracted by the blood bond. They can always renew the bond later.

  34. 261 Willowbella
    May 6, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    Thanks Dee! That’s exactly what I think too. Yes, Eric married Sookie to protect her politically but in doing so he brought unwanted attention on himself from his brand new superiors (who were very much an unknown element at that point). I don’t think a pragmatist and survivalist like Eric would do something so risky if she didn’t really mean something to him and if he didn’t want to be tied to her by vamp law or otherwise (I can’t see the Viking doing anything he doesn’t want to do). 🙂

    I thought it was sweet that in this book he makes it clear the marriage is important to him and isn’t just in name only.

    Glad I’m not alone on the E/S engagement train. Maybe if more people get on board the universe will hear. 🙂

    • 262 Dee
      May 7, 2010 at 12:04 am

      Oh I am all for an E/S wedding, can you imagine that wedding haha. Would Bill be a GM? LOL just the thought of that is hysterical.

      It definitely has to be a big gift, otherwise why even tell us in this book he will get her a gift. If its something like clothing, or anything similar then why mention it in this book and have us wait to find out what it is, would be pointless to even bring it up so early.

      Sookie deserves to finally have someone ask her and walk down that aisle. But I would hate to read about Sookie getting married to anyone else so HAS to be Eric. Also, Pam can be her MOH.

      • 263 Robin
        May 7, 2010 at 12:11 am

        I think Sookie would be satisfied with getting married at the courthouse, she is a simple person. Also, maybe she would recognize her vampire marriage to Eric if she were able to present the ceremonial knife to Eric again, but by her own choice.

  35. May 6, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    Loved the book, but here is my first criticism. Consider the Vampire History lesson Eric gave Sookie. Many of these vamps have been in the US for 300 years. Eric is 1001 years old. Its seems fairly likely that Eric would be recognized anywhere in the country, especially the South. No way the King of MS would not have recognized him in Club Dead. Didn’t he also try to conceal his true identity in LDID?

    • 266 Willowbella
      May 7, 2010 at 1:43 am

      Vampire society in the States must have been smaller and more restricted when they were still underground (har-de-har). It does seem implausible that Eric wouldn’t be widely known (especially being part of the power structure for so long). As a sheriff he must have attended a fair few summits and he’s pretty recognizable. And let’s face it he’s no master of disguise. 🙂 In LDiD he introduces himself as ‘Leif’ but has no disguise to speak of, he just changes his name. I think it’s implied that Stan might know who he really is but this isn’t confirmed. In CD his disguise is just a pair of glasses. Clark Kent eat your heart out! 🙂

      I think in the beginning, CH probably hadn’t mapped out the vamp power structure in detail or thought it all through. I don’t think she always does these things in advance, I think a lot of it she adds as she goes hence the occasional inconsistencies. *coughs* I found the introduction of a complicated clan system on top of the monarchal hierarchy at this stage a bit baffling and maybe unnecessary.

      • May 7, 2010 at 1:42 pm

        The only way I can think of that will explain Eric’s disguise is if Dallas and Mississippi is part of a different clan. Maybe sheriffs aren’t allowed to join interclan meetings. I dunno. Also, when they haven’t come out of the coffin, I doubt they’d be able to have meetings en masse like in Rhodes so it’s possible that only a few attend those summits pre-“coming out of the coffin” time.

  36. 268 Willowbella
    May 6, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Robin, there was a lot of wedding talk again, it’s definitely been an ongoing and developing theme. Sookie has been fixated on the fact that no one has ever asked her since practically the beginning of the books. Even her vampire ‘husband’ never asked her. You’re right, that’s not in there for no reason. And we know that she’ll be attending a wedding with Sam which could also be a precursor for what is to come. So yeah, there HAS to be a proposal at some point. Just hope it’s from Eric. 😉

    MAS, I love the idea of her asking him, that would be awesome, but I agree Eric has to regain some control and man up. Plus surely he has to rectify the fact that he married her (in his world) and wasn’t planning on telling her let alone asking her!

    Please no more gift-wrapped fairies!!! If a new fae suitor (or any new suitor) is introduced at this stage I may scream. I read in a post that Preston is referred to in this book but I missed that. I believe CH said she was not going to introduce elements from her short stories again as not everyone who follows the books has read them and it lead to confusion (in bk. 6 I believe). I hope she sticks by this.

    Does anyone think CH is building up to Remy being a prospect?

    • 269 VikingLover
      May 6, 2010 at 11:12 pm

      {Does anyone think CH is building up to Remy being a prospect?}

      Actually Robin, I thought CH completely eliminated him as a prospect. She made it clear that he was just as freaked out and uncomfortable about Sookie as the other human men she had known. Yay! lol

      • 270 VikingLover
        May 6, 2010 at 11:13 pm

        Oops sorry, meant Willowbella. 🙂 Welcome by the way!

      • May 6, 2010 at 11:44 pm

        I agree. Alot of people seem nervous about Remy for some reason. There’s nothing there folks – on either side. That was made abundantly clear in this book.

      • 272 Serena
        May 6, 2010 at 11:53 pm

        I feel the Remdawg is not long for this world, too many people know of Hunter now; Copley, Lattesta, Heidi,… its not long now until someone makes a play for their very own teacup telepath… I wonder too if that is one of the reasons this Katherine Blablabla was introduced, as if maybe Hunter gets taken by the G-men.

    • 273 VampirePamsGirl
      May 9, 2010 at 4:13 am

      “I read in a post that Preston is referred to in this book but I missed that.”

      It’s a very small reference. I’m not sure people would get it at all if they hadn’t read the short stories. Sookie has like a little flash of something about an injured man in the woods or something like that. I don’t even remember clearly myself.

  37. 274 Willowbella
    May 6, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    Thanks VL! He is a bit too wary of the supe world to get involved with Sook. Him being back in person in DiTF made me worry he was a possible late addition to the game. I’m glad we’re ruling him out but if he’s not a romantic possibility then I fear his prospects for staying alive are not good! I wonder who would ‘inherit’ Hunter..hhmmm(again precursors abounded here methinks)? 🙂

    • 275 VampirePamsGirl
      May 9, 2010 at 4:18 am

      Oooh, I love it. Hunter and Remy get kidnapped by some supe group or another, Sookie and Eric (and Pam!) have to save them but Remy ends up getting killed somehow, Sookie (and her husband) adopt Hunter, who as the adopted son of Sookie and Eric goes under the protection of King Eric or Queen Pam. The End. HEA. Haha. 😀

  38. 276 VikingLover
    May 6, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    So I just checked Amazon, just to see what the reviews for this book were like, and it seems that a lot of BL’s are writing negative reviews. One person wrote that she was waiting to see what would happen with the “Bill and Sookie relationship”. I just cannot believe it. I really liked the book and I’m going to write a positive review because it’s not fair to CH. I think one should only write a negative review if they truly didn’t like the book for genuine purposes (plot, character development, etc) not out of spite. I could be wrong but I felt that many of the reviewers were just being spiteful. Maybe I’m just paranoid. lol

    • May 7, 2010 at 1:08 am

      They cannot see what’s written on the page. They will not see it.
      CH was as clear as she could possibly be in that first scene with Bill. It’s over.

      It was clear to most of us at the end of DAG. Unless Bill dies they won’t accept it. Then that’ll be Sookie’s fault too.

    • 278 Dunkinstiks
      May 7, 2010 at 1:27 am

      There are a lot of EL negative reviews also and speaking for myself I did not like the book all that much either. Eric was not himself in this book, CH practically neutered him for what gain IHNI, granted his maker was there most of the time, but CH did not do a good job of fleshing out the Ocello/Alexie plot.
      The other thing that was bothersome was the book felt like a dumping ground for CH to clear up issues raised on her site or in past book, almost as if CH went into the book with a check list per chapter. The book lacks a certain passion evident throughout most of the series even in DAG, as if CH has grown weary of writing them. Maybe a break is in need from the series.

      • 279 VikingLover
        May 7, 2010 at 2:51 am

        Oh I have absolutely no problem with valid negative reviews. I do however have a problem with some that clearly appeared not to be.

        • 280 Willowbella
          May 7, 2010 at 3:10 am

          This book isn’t perfect but then again is any book perfect? There were things I didn’t like and found contradictory or confusing. I’m sure everyone feels the same. Expectations were so high for this that there were bound to be a few that weren’t met. But I was surprised at how venomous some of the reviews are. Constructive criticism and giving a justified negative opinion is one thing but I don’t see the point of people being mean for the sake of it. Doesn’t that equal virtual bad karma or something? 🙂

      • May 7, 2010 at 5:48 am

        I agree with this assessment completely.

    • 282 nerd
      May 8, 2010 at 3:42 am

      i made the mistake of looking at amazon reviews as well :/ no more of that!

  39. 283 Suzanna
    May 7, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Did anyone else feel like it was too easy when Claude and Sookie kissed Dermot and broke the spell?

    • 284 Skarlove
      May 7, 2010 at 12:27 am

      Yes, Suzanna. I thought that it was just another fast, slightly cheapening way to tie up another loose end.

      On another note, did anyone else find that the new bigoted church in town made them groan? I’m all for the FOTS staying an arch nemesis, but why does there have to be a whole new congregation spreading their hatred?

    • May 7, 2010 at 12:57 am

      That was lame. I really have no idea WTF that was all about. I think it was just meant to be cute but it didn’t quite come off.

      • 286 MASpencer
        May 7, 2010 at 1:17 am

        Yes, it was definitely a poorly executed cliche. Totes lame, even though it probably didn’t HAVE to be.

        But I believe Holby had a theory involving fairy tales and kisses that I couldn’t help but recall with that passage. Things that make you go hmmmmm. 😉

    • 287 VikingLover
      May 7, 2010 at 1:14 am

      Yeah, I agree on the Dermot/Claude kiss-away-the-spell thingie. I actually rolled my eyes on that. That didn’t make sense to me – there had to be a better, more interesting, less cheesy way to break that spell. lol Maybe it should have been carried over to another book. I actually didn’t like that Dermott had been placed under a spell by Niall. That didn’t make sense to me. I guess that’s set up for Gran being placed under a spell by Fintan.

    • 288 Dunkinstiks
      May 7, 2010 at 1:31 am

      Yes, a little too feigned and I’d expect a little more to break a fae spell.

    • May 7, 2010 at 5:49 am

      I didn’t think anything of it because I didn’t care.

    • May 7, 2010 at 1:51 pm

      I felt it was too easy too. But I remembered Niall kissing Sookie in the end of DAG and I read somewhere out there about a theory on it and had me thinking that maybe there is something about a fairy kiss? When Sookie kissed Bill in this book, she recognized a change in him. And, it was mentioned several times in the book about fairies feeling good if they are near another fairy. I dunno, I haven’t fleshed out that theory yet.

    • 291 nskars
      May 7, 2010 at 2:40 pm

      I had to re-read that part a couple of times, I thought I had stumbled into Snow White territory for a second there.

  40. 292 Willowbella
    May 7, 2010 at 12:43 am

    I agree Skarlove. Another prejudiced church felt a bit repetitive to me. I’m sure CH was trying to show that hatred against supes is spreading but that could have been done using the FotS, which has already been established as an antagonist and we’re all invested in disliking them already. Couldn’t they just have opened a church/base in Bon Temps?

  41. 293 helenahandbasket
    May 7, 2010 at 2:29 am

    The kiss was so lame that I had to try and think of something to make SOME semblance of it.
    I like to think of it as a catalyst.
    Dermot threw the knife at Coleman, told Sookie he would watch out for her and told her that he loves her. And even despite knowing that Dermot had a hand in killing her parents, Sookie chooses to allow Dermot some access in her life, and even feels some pity for him.
    Maybe this is what actually broke the spell and the kiss was just symbolic of human “Fairy tales.”
    There is SO much about Niall and the fae that hasn’t be revealed or explained…IDK!

  42. 294 JonnaRose
    May 7, 2010 at 3:40 am

    All y’all have such interesting things to say! This is my first post, so please bear this in mind and I hope I don’t step on any toes.

    I’ma halfway through my secon reading of the book, and I’ve been enjoying it as well as everybody’s insight. I’ve reread the series more than once, and I must admit those rereads were driven by a desire to understand Eric and Sookie better. I often skimmed over Were politics and daytime happenings in general, because who cares about that stuff right!?

    This last reread, however, I decided to not skip over anything. I also tried to have an open mind. So often we all slag off this or that scene, plot-line, love interest, because we feel it’s irrelevant or hokey or contrived, or NOT ERIC DAMMIT!

    I found I liked it all even more. I didn’t skim over the time Sookie takes to tell me about her grocery, library, and Wall-Mart trips. I didn’t roll my eyes at her commenting on the attractiveness of half the male population, or her insecurity in the face of “normal girls” even though she’s got a gorgeous 1000 year old viking driven to distraction trying to win her and keep her. I cannot begin to imagine my life as a sexually abused, socially awkward, self-educated, small-town baptist waitress. Until Charlaine Harris describes it to me, and throws in telepathy and vampires and shape-shifters and somehow makes me see it.

    The rereads made me consider each character’s motivations rather than how this is SO NOT WHAT I WANT TO SEE HAPPENING.

    Now I just want to see what they all do next.

    • 295 Willowbella
      May 7, 2010 at 4:48 am

      Hi JonnaRose, it’s my first post tonight too. Everyone has been so friendly and welcoming and even though they are all so knowledgeable about SVM they’ve been very open to my humble opinions. 🙂

      I think it’s great that these books and its characters inspire us to come up with our own little scenarios of what we want to happen but I love looking for clues and subtext, trying to figure out where CH wants to take it next, too. I also love that when you finally get your hands on a new book there are still surprises waiting for you. The pleasure is three fold!

    • 296 Dee
      May 7, 2010 at 4:57 am

      Welcome Jonnarose! yeah I have a habit of doing the same thing when I re-read the books, I skip small parts or things I am not interested in but then again many times some of the biggest clues are during those times so it does help out.

      The great thing about this site is that everyone is so insightful that they will point out things you never thought about or things you might’ve not picked up on. Hearing everyone’s thoughts helps you even understand the books on a whole new level.

    • 297 VampirePamsGirl
      May 9, 2010 at 4:28 am

      Hi! Welcome JonnaRose! There are definitely some really smart cookies around here! I’m always so grateful that I stumbled across SVB’s blog so many months ago now.

      That’s also something I love about these books too; every time you read them, you find little things here or there that (even without skimming) you may not have picked up on the first time you read them. Though I freely admit, that I often go back through my books and just read the Eric/Sookie parts. 😀

  43. 302 Aposmeal
    May 7, 2010 at 5:28 am

    First Alan Ball vilifies Eric then Charlaine Harris Billifies Eric. CH put him back the way he was.

    • May 7, 2010 at 5:35 am

      Wow there’s alot of this building today.

      I’m a bit confused by it, TBH. Not saying you guys aren’t entitled to feel like you do but there’s pretty strong language going around…castrated, emasculated…this has been coming for AGES! It was foreshadowed in book 4 and the last two books in particular he’s been building to this. Charlaine really laid it out bare w/Eric in this book but I’m not sure I get why people are so gutted?

      • 304 trixie
        May 7, 2010 at 6:35 am

        yeah I’m with you. I understand why people can feel that way,and of course it’s upsetting to see Eric like this, and I miss funny Eric, but well, THAT’S THE POINT! And I agree, it was foreshadowed and it was actually NEEDED as part of his (awesome) character arc…

        • 305 eowyn
          May 7, 2010 at 10:20 am

          yeah..it has been coming and I have been bitching about it all the way…I have always liked that Eric put himself and vamps before humans…I was never crazy about the idea that this “humanizing” of Eric was going to happen, but it never would stop me from reading the books..cuz, well, that would make me no different than a BL..I am much different…

          I like to imagine that despite all the mainstreaming, Eric is in a back room someplace draining someone…and since I’m fessing up, I hated AE…took me a while before I warmed up to him..so..I can’t wait until I see Eric bowling with vampires again!

          • May 7, 2010 at 10:46 am

            I can see your point eowyn.

            But it also begs a question. How can Eric and Sookie sustain a long term pairing without some changes in both of them? While Eric has been an incredibly charismatic and interesting character right through this series, there is no denying that he – like Sookie – has been emotionally conflicted and closed off. There can be no believable HEA while a deeper emotional connection between them goes unacknowledged and unexplored. Without that, all E/S are left with is great sex. A HEA with say, CD Eric was just not something that I would have bought. I need to see some emotional depth and while that has been hinted at – pretty obviously – in previous books he was always holding back and it was just a constant tease. This feels to me like the logical next step with his character. I don’t feel like bowling for vampires Eric is gone – he is still there. Eric is still a vampire, he drained Colman in a bloodlust and threw him on the ground at the end of this book. But now we just have a clearer understanding of what is actually going on in his head, instead of having to constantly speculate and guess.

            As a vampire and a (mostly) human, these two are at polar opposite ends of the spectrum as a coupling. What was really clear to me in DITF is that Sookie is thinking more like a vampire, and Eric is feeling more like a human. It’s interesting to me that we’re starting to see them both move towards middle ground. How much of this is due to the fact that they can feel eachother’s emotions, and how much is due to the impact of their experiences is a bit grey at the moment.

            And once again I’ve talked myself into wanting the bond broken.

            Fuck. That thing drives me mental. I change my mind about it hourly.

            • 307 VikingLover
              May 7, 2010 at 12:52 pm

              Thank you for saying this SVB – I agree 110%. We have seen glimpses of this Eric since Book 2. I mean he’s been putting Sookie first since he flew to Dallas to be near her. Actually since Book 1 when he killed LS and knew he would face consequences. Yeah he was hot sh***t vamp sheriff through out the series but you always knew there was another side. That was the point of AE in my opinion. This Eric was always there. I also agree that they are starting to move towards a middle ground and they are finding their footing in this relationship. We will see the hot sh***t sheriff side again but I think we needed to see this side as well.

              I’ll be honest, I’m very confused about this fall out. From what I have read, in the past, most EL’s always mention how they loved Book 4 etc. Now that we’re seeing that part of him emerge, there is a backlash. I just don’t get it.

              • May 7, 2010 at 1:00 pm

                This Eric has been in the post since forever. The last five books have been a slow unveiling of what we already knew was there from book 4. I don’t get the backlash either.

                • May 7, 2010 at 1:03 pm

                  Just thinking out loud here about the cover.

                  The rose is the BB – drawing them towards eachother. The BB was HUGE in this book. The rose is HUGE.

                  They’re moving towards eachother – drawn towards the middle through the bond. That was their theme in this book.

                  • 310 caratstick
                    May 8, 2010 at 2:52 pm

                    Nice interpretation, SVB. I like it. It works well with the imagery. It’s a beautiful thing but it’s a thorny issue. Of course, that’s a pretty good description of many aspects of their relationship, which makes it even more on point.

                • 311 VampirePamsGirl
                  May 9, 2010 at 4:45 am

                  I’m totally with ya’ll on this SVB and VL. I love bad-ass Eric as much as anybody and I hate any situation in which he seems vulnerable, but fact is even 1000 year old vampire Sheriff’s can be vulnerable. Also I think all that happened in this book was necessary for Eric and Sookie to have an equal relationship.

                  I think most of us have said all along that AE was just a side of Eric that he did not normally allow anyone to see. I think this book really confirms that opinion. And I also think that we got to see that side of him more now not just because of all the shit that he goes through in this book but also because his trust in Sookie is growing more and more.

                  And OMG, speaking of supporting the AE is RE bandwagon, there was sooo much stuff to back that up in this book. I bet SVB could do a post only on that topic, lol.

                  • May 9, 2010 at 7:06 am

                    You know what, I don’t even think it needs a post. It’s just so self evident now.

                    There was gray area before – there’s not now. I just don’t even see how anyone could argue now that AE wasn’t Eric. Though I’m sure there are still some who will, but they can’t be taken seriously.

              • 313 Kristen
                May 7, 2010 at 3:03 pm

                In Book 4, I remember him literally CLINGING to Sookie’s legs while sitting on the floor… This image will never leave me because it was so helpless… I also thought that most people loved seeing this side of Eric and of Sookie taking care of Eric.

                The Eric we see in DITF, I think, is a nice combination of BAMF and somewhat needy AE. He needs Sookie and Sookie needs him – and what’s wrong with that?

                I feel like if he didn’t have this side, he would be way too one-sided for my liking (*cough* Bill *cough*). DITF showed depth, intimacy, and equality in their relationship, and I respect Charlaine for going “there”.

              • 314 MASpencer
                May 7, 2010 at 3:07 pm

                Oh I LOVE the Eric with feelings… no backlash here, and I wish we had seen more of it in DAG.

                But the Eric who just sat there on the couch while all hell broke loose? Did NOT like him so much. That ISN’T the Eric I know, from Book 4 or otherwise.

                However, VL and others made good points about how it reinforces the effect that his maker had on him. And now that ALO is dead, I’m REALLY hoping that we don’t see a display like that again. Dude’s allowed a pass this time… but if it becomes a habit, I won’t be happy with him.

                • 315 nskars
                  May 7, 2010 at 3:15 pm

                  Hahaha! I love it. I figure the guy was just in a hell of a lot of shock maybe… his daytime guy and bartender were shredded into bits, Pam had been bashed to hell and back, his ribs were hanging out of his chest… I know Eric is normally the take charge sort but he was probably just lagging a little with the enormity of what went down. And it gave Sook the opportunity to blow off some steam by screaming at him and she got the ball rolling so it all turned out ok in the end.

                  • 316 kelly
                    May 7, 2010 at 3:40 pm

                    he really has no luck with bartenders does he, whats this? the fourth? maybe fifth? jeeez how they gonna fill that spot again, unless bill and his new squeeze go help. every other vamp in eric’s area shows up at the bar except bill, what gives?

                  • 317 MASpencer
                    May 7, 2010 at 3:43 pm

                    True. But the difference between warriors and normal men is the ability to press forward and think strategically in times of unfathomable crisis. Eric can cry and talk about his feelings for pages on end, and I will eat up every damn word of it. But he better not EVER drop the ball like that when the shit hits the fan again!

                    Although, I’ll admit that I think it was important that Sookie gave him a kick in the pants– not only for her belief in her own self-worth, but for her understanding that yes, she DOES have something to offer Eric. And again, I think it shows that even the most powerful people need to be helped up from time to time.

                    And I still think Sookie’s pushing Eric away because, secretly, she doesn’t think she deserves him. I just hope that Eric doesn’t have to shine a little less bright over the course of the next few books for her to feel like she can “keep” him. That wouldn’t be a very healthy development, and while there’s no sense in presenting one of her characters as perfect, I hope CH doesn’t feel the need to go there with the two of them.

                  • 318 VampirePamsGirl
                    May 9, 2010 at 4:50 am

                    Re: Eric being in a hell of a lot of shock… There was also the matter of Alexei’s madness draining both ALO and Eric and Alexei had definitely just had a serious crazy spell, which I figure had some serious emotional/mental impact on Eric.

                    And then of course there is that whole thing where blood relationships between the vampires mean they can feel the pain of each other. Well if Eric’s sire and Eric’s childe are both getting wailed on, and Eric is getting the crap knocked out him as well, wouldn’t that be like a simultaneous triple beat-down?

                • May 7, 2010 at 4:29 pm

                  I’m reading some theories around the place that Eric’s paralysis at the end had to do with Sookie ingesting the drug from Alcide. At the same time she was off her face, he was completely useless. It was very OOC, even for having his maker around. I’m still kicking this around. Whatcha think?

                  • 320 MASpencer
                    May 7, 2010 at 4:38 pm

                    Ooooh. I LIKE, I LIKE! And it would totally make sense, assuming that the drug-induced disorientation would be a shared experience.

                    By the way, something really isn’t sitting right with that drug bit. I’d feel better if we knew conclusively whether it was mushroom tea, peyote, or whatever. Perhaps CH has no experience with illicit drugs, so she figured she’d just let us decide for ourselves what it was. But without knowing for sure, I’m just suspicious as to whether there could be larger effects than what we saw written on the page.

                    Then again, maybe I’m just paranoid about drinking the punch. 😉

                    • 321 VampirePamsGirl
                      May 9, 2010 at 5:03 am

                      “I’m just suspicious as to whether there could be larger effects than what we saw written on the page”

                      Oh, maybe there are and Alcide knew about them and that’s why CH made the comment she made about Alcide in this book and yet most everyone seems to be thinking that while Alcide was an ass, he wasn’t as much of an ass that we thought he would be. Maybe he WAS that big of an ass and we just don’t know it yet! (Was that enough ass for ya’ll in there?) 😀 Lol

                  • 322 VikingLover
                    May 7, 2010 at 4:44 pm

                    [Although, I’ll admit that I think it was important that Sookie gave him a kick in the pants– not only for her belief in her own self-worth, but for her understanding that yes, she DOES have something to offer Eric. And again, I think it shows that even the most powerful people need to be helped up from time to time.]

                    MAS, yes you hit it right on the head. This, to me, was exactly the point of having this happen to Eric. I don’t think we’ll see this side of him again – I think it’s clear that it was only his Maker that could have this effect on him. But yes, you’re right, I can accept it when it comes to his Maker but not in another circumstance because then it really WOULD be OOC. I don’t think we’ll have to worry about that though. I think CH made her point here – at least I hope so. lol

                    Plus Eric was himself for the first half of the book – it was only after his Maker showed up that shit hit the fan.

                    SVB, that’s an interesting thoery. Hmmmm, it could be. Maybe it f***d him up more than he would have been otherwise. CH did say that Alcide was devious in this book. Although, Alcide claims to not have known what the drug was made of or entirely capable of. Do you think he was lying?

                    • 323 VikingLover
                      May 7, 2010 at 4:49 pm

                      It’s also interesting that Felicia showed up to Eric’s house at the exact same time that Sookie was under the influence of this drug. Was she there to see if it would effectively weaken Eric???

                    • 324 MASpencer
                      May 7, 2010 at 4:50 pm

                      I think it’s possible. Because as deviousness goes, I don’t see how this was any worse than anything else he’s done. It’s not like he slipped it into her drink when she wasn’t looking. He DID give her the choice, even if he was a little bit manipulative in his persuasion tactics.

                      That’s what makes me think that maybe there’s more to the story. Or not. Who knows?

                    • 325 VikingLover
                      May 7, 2010 at 4:53 pm

                      [He DID give her the choice, even if he was a little bit manipulative in his persuasion tactics. ]

                      Ah, but that’s the thing, he knew she wouldn’t question it and would do it if he asked. He also knew that he could manipulate her into doing it. It was VERY telling when he told her that a year ago she would have taken it with no questions asked.

                  • 326 MASpencer
                    May 7, 2010 at 4:46 pm

                    Incidentally, that would also give cause for a severance of the blood bond. If Sookie is going to make a habit of tripping out as the Jackson pack’s “shaman,” there’s no way that she and Eric can continue to be as closely bonded as they are. He simply can’t afford to be incapacitated at a critical time… or ANY time, for that matter.

                  • 327 Robin
                    May 7, 2010 at 4:47 pm

                    Absolutely, SVB, I think that drug is responsible for alot of havoc at the end of the book! I think that drug is also partially responsible for setting off Alexei, and therefore several deaths. When Eric figures out what Alcide did to Sookie, there is going to be trouble. I would imagine Jason will tell Pam about what happended at Alcide’s and the drug she had to take to be the Shaman, and then Pam will tell Eric.

                    • 328 VikingLover
                      May 7, 2010 at 4:51 pm

                      {I think that drug is also partially responsible for setting off Alexei, and therefore several deaths. }

                      Ooooh, this is good!!! Excellent look on this Robin!

                    • May 7, 2010 at 5:02 pm

                      When Alcide was talking about the shaman he did mention that most people would call him/her a witch. The pack has friends in the witch community from previous book. Ch seemed to be quite harsh on Alcide for his behaviour in this book, which makes me think there will be much more to that drink, as has been speculated. I also think he wasn’t telling Sookie the truth about not having a shaman for however many years. That whole setup smelled fishy IMO.

                    • 330 Robin
                      May 7, 2010 at 5:19 pm

                      Also, the real problem for Eric may not have been an effect from the drug, but the knowledge that there was something very wrong with Sookie. Maybe this is how his love for Sookie set Alexei out of control. Then, the next thing you know, there were injuries and death, and Eric was in shock after that.

                    • 331 VikingLover
                      May 7, 2010 at 5:26 pm

                      Speaking of which Robin, how dorky (and ridiculous) am I that I found it cute when Alexei tells Eric that he can feel his love for her flowing through the bond. Never mind the death and mayhem, even at that moment I was like “AWWWWW!” Hahahaha!

                  • 332 Mishia
                    May 7, 2010 at 5:04 pm

                    Now, now, that is very interesting. Also this could partially explain Alexei’s capability of fighting off not 1, not 2, but 3 vampires several times older then he is. If Eric and Appius were high because of the effects of the drug transmitting through the bond then the fact that little rascal beat them all. This could also have a serious impact on the trust between Eric and Sookie. What would he do if he found out that Sookie’s little trip partially caused the death of his maker and his and Pam’s injury? Not to mention that it rendered him powerless.

                    • 333 VikingLover
                      May 7, 2010 at 5:06 pm

                      No, he wouldn’t blame Sookie for this because she had no way of knowing. He would blame Alcide.

                    • 334 Mishia
                      May 7, 2010 at 5:07 pm

                      …beat them all would be more believable…..kinda wandered off

                    • 335 Robin
                      May 7, 2010 at 5:09 pm

                      I don’t see it that way. I do not think Eric would blame Sookie for what happened. Definitely Alcide, especially once he gets the story from Sookie and Jason.

                    • 336 VikingLover
                      May 7, 2010 at 5:09 pm

                      Alexei also did say that it was the best he had felt in decades. Oh man, the more I think about this drug thing, the more it makes sense. And Felicia! Felicia being at Eric’s house makes much more sense now! Even Sookie was baffled by this.

                    • 337 Mishia
                      May 7, 2010 at 5:10 pm

                      yea, but he could call her stupid for drinking stuff she does know nothing about. He could call her careless for doing things to her body and mind and not thinking about the impact it could have on the bond and therefore on her bond-mates as well.

                    • 338 Mishia
                      May 7, 2010 at 5:15 pm

                      …and we all know what Sookie does when she is called stupid. I’m just saying that it could cause a rift. Although Sookie really isn’t the one to blame. I still have faith in them 🙂

                  • 339 Dee
                    May 9, 2010 at 5:18 am

                    That’s an excellent point and honestly I think it throws out the whole theory of the drug being the cause of it. If Sookie herself who took the drug was able to jump into action then no reason it shouldve stopped Eric.

                    Ok, I am gonna re-read the book to see if my theory is possible. I wrote elsewhere on here that I don’t think Eric had no plan. I think everything that happened was his plan, and like in Hamlet, it was all made to look like an accident.

                • 340 teamEric
                  May 7, 2010 at 10:19 pm

                  Hi, this is my first post!

                  So, I totally understand everyone being upset by Eric’s change in Character in this book. However, I think one thing we may have skipped over is that the book is all about “Family.”

                  Psychologically speaking, when we are around our parents, esp if we had an abusive relationship with them, we can and usually do revert to being kind of childlike. In Eric’s case, his makers return brought back a flood of emotions, mainly negative. as a vampire, he has been conditioned to do as he is told by his maker, regardless of how old he is and how long he has been out of his makers reach. he reverted back into an abused child, afraid of losing his ability to control his own life.

                  This book showed the many aspects of family relationships. From forgiving and accepting in the case of Bill and the Mrs Caroline/Portia and Claude/Sookie/Dermot… to the hard work of family (Sam’s family having to work through the revolution) to the way that dysfunction can turn the most self controlled, strong person into the opposite of what he has built himself to be (Eric)

                  I think that we will get back the Eric we all know and love, but he will be changed due to his experiences in this book.

                  that’s my two sense…

                  • 341 VampirePamsGirl
                    May 9, 2010 at 5:12 am

                    Hi teamEric! I think you make some valid points and I agree that we will see the hardcore, ruthless Eric again.

                    You make a good point about reverting to childlike behavior around our parents. I’m 25 years old and yet there are still times when I still call my mom “Mommy” and ask her to fix me a sandwich, lol. 🙂

                  • 342 northmanfan
                    May 10, 2010 at 2:34 am

                    Great post teamEric

                • 343 Ashley
                  May 8, 2010 at 2:42 am

                  I thought showing Eric’s vulnerable and more helpless side in this book was just CHs way of showing that AE was just Eric stripped down, without all his years of learning to mask his fear and emotions. Shes showing that he doesnt always have the answers. And why should he? Even though he’s lived 1000+ years, the situation with his maker was a hard one that brought him back to a very vulnerable place in his life, where he was constantly controlled and had no freedom, and was made to do stuff he didnt want to do. I wasnt really that surprised by his reaction. I liked that CH was showing us the more vulnerable Eric again, showing us that he still has that more human side.

      • 344 nskars
        May 7, 2010 at 2:53 pm

        I agree. The whole backlash about Eric’s character in DITF is confusing the shit out of me. Personally, I would rather Eric allow himself to feel what he needs to feel. If it’s confusion, angst, sorrow, vulnerability or pain in regards to his maker whom he’s had a bond with for over 1000 years then hey, I’m not gonna freak out about it. I’m not gonna stop loving the character cos he’s going through some tough times, jeez. That’s what makes it all the more interesting. Besides, Ocella and batshitcrazy Alexei are finally dead so we won’t have to worry about them anymore, anyways.

        • 345 Dee
          May 7, 2010 at 6:07 pm

          It is very likely that the drug effected Eric, Alexei and Appius. Infact, I don’t see how it couldn’t because Sookie even points out when she got to Alcide’s place that it was very close to Eric’s house. Since she was so close to them then it is even more likely that’s what happened. I think Eric was also very conflicted because he knew what had to be done. They had to kill Alexei, which he might’ve worried about since Appius was hesitant to kill Alexei. Eric said that no matter what he does, people will die. Normally he can act quickly and come up with a great plan because the consequences wouldn’t effect him greatly but this was the one time where it wasn’t true. Then just like it happened, Alexei and Appius both died BUT I think maybe he even worried about Sookie. He knew Sookie would be ruthless and would think they should kill Alexei, if Appius objected to this then that would mean we would see Sookie vs. Appius, which would’ve put Eric in the worst possible scenario for him.

          • 346 Robin
            May 7, 2010 at 7:26 pm

            So, the way I see it, the drug was the catalyst that led to the Shakespearean ending.

            • 347 Dee
              May 7, 2010 at 8:57 pm

              Ok this might be a bit far fetched but is it possible that Eric did have a plan and what happened was his plan? We know that this book had a shakespearian ending, but also throughout the book we see this theme. Hamlet was mentioned, by Eric infact so now I’m trying to think of the similarities. In Hamlet, Claudius came up with a plan to kill Hamlet in a way that would appear as an accident. Would also explain Felicia’s death if Eric thought she was a spy, maybe he told Bobby to bring her. Maybe he even found out Bobby was giving info to Victor about Sookie since we know he hates her. Did Eric know Alexei was going to look for Jason? knowing he would end up at Sookie’s house. The only thing is if Eric would know claude was there and more importantly Cloman which im not sure about. Did he not go after Alexei and Appius because he knew they would mostly likely be killed and this way it wouldn’t be his doing but what he wanted.

              Again, not sure how likely this is

              • 348 Willowbella
                May 7, 2010 at 8:58 pm

                When Sookie first tells us about Eric’s living room she describes the 3 objects on the table in some detail. At first I thought CH was just reflecting Eric’s taste and history but then I wondered if at least one of them might have some future relevance. It kinda reminded me of those RPGs where you have items on a table and have to pick one to proceed on your journey. The bowl intrigued me. I automatically jumped to some kind of ritual.

                When the potion/drug came up I thought, “hmmm how does this link to Eric?” I even briefly thought the drug might destroy the E/S bond, especially when she couldn’t feel him and his ‘family.’ But it was revived once she threw up and I was proved wrong.

                Now, thanks to this post and theory, I think maybe I WAS on to something. Since the big bad DID happen in Eric’s living room it could have been a signifier, right? Or maybe I’m just on a horcrux hunt. 🙂

                Oh and I agree with earlier posts that there might be more side effects to come than just stomach cramps for poor Sook. 🙂

      • 349 caratstick
        May 8, 2010 at 3:04 pm

        Yeah, I’m not getting the lack of love–you love the Viking, you love all of the Viking. People keep referring to the part with him at his house at the end. I can’t get upset because he was a little discombobulated for 15 or 20 minutes. Fuck, no one that’s not a complete sociopathic monster would not be a little stunned. Add to that the possible drug influence from Sookie’s end of the blood bond and the emotions and just fucking crazy he’s probably getting from Appius and Alexei. It’s no wonder, sitting there with his ribs poking out of his chest (ewww), that the Viking had a moment of weakness.

  44. 353 Natalie
    May 7, 2010 at 6:11 am

    Ok read the books 2 times. Watched Season two all the way through in 24 hours. I don’t know how you can be a Bill fan…as I know most people here are not. I so want Eric/AS. I need to take time to sleep but then I’m going to come back and read all the comments all the way through.

    Oh can anyone figure out what happened to Bubba? Or did I miss that in the book.

    • 354 Natalie
      May 7, 2010 at 6:16 am

      That should have said I read the DITF 2 times in 36 hours…man I need to sleep seeing I read it twice and watched all 12 episodes of season 2. Not to mentioned I worked 8 hours in there (got to read at work). Wow can’t type worth a darn! So good night to all my new friends!

    • May 7, 2010 at 2:03 pm

      It wasn’t mentioned what happened to Bubba. I want to know too. Obviously he’s not in Sookie’s hidey hole anymore.

  45. 356 Dunkinstiks
    May 7, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    One thing that is really pissing me off about the reviews on sites like amazon and B&N is that they allow people to post negative reviews because of the kindle controversy and downgrade a book they have not read. There are a slew of negative reviews for the book by people who have not read the book and are pissed because they can’t get it for their kindles. I have not had time to review the book on any of these sites but I will give it an extra star to off set the ebook negativity. 😀

    • 357 kelly
      May 7, 2010 at 10:59 pm

      i purposefully went to amazon.com to review the book (even though i downloaded it and will be buying from abebooks) there were a few really bad reviews, but i gave a shining synopsis.
      some people are just so petty.

  46. 358 Liz
    May 7, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    whats with Amelia thinking Dermot, who cant form a sentence would have been a good blind date for Sookie. He’s apparently been spelled for years?

    • 359 nskars
      May 7, 2010 at 2:59 pm

      Good point but from what I gathered in regards to Dermot not being able to string a sentence together, it seemed that was only happening when he wanted to talk directly to Sookie or Claude about what had been done to him? Or about the family in any way?

      • 360 MollyS
        May 8, 2010 at 5:31 am

        The can’t-form-a-sentence thing reminded me too much of the problem in New Moon when Jacob can’t tell Bella what’s going on with him becoming a werewolf. Maybe it was a coincidence, but I wish CH could have found a better way to incorporate this part of the story line.

    • May 7, 2010 at 4:24 pm

      Never mind the fact that he looks like her BROTHER.

      Amelia is weird.

      • 362 Robin
        May 7, 2010 at 4:29 pm

        I am having a hard time trusting Amelia, especially after the last couple of books. I trust her about as much as I trust Sam.

        • 363 VikingLover
          May 7, 2010 at 4:33 pm

          I was really disappointed in Amelia. I was shocked that she was so dismissive of Sookie and their friendship. I mean, Sookie took her in when she had no place else to go!

          By the way, did anyone else think that Sookie pulling out the silver chain from Book 1 was a nod to the bullet that’s still in her night stand? I wonder if it means we’re getting closer to her finding it…

        • May 7, 2010 at 4:36 pm

          I don’t trust her father. And because Amelia is so tactless, and desperate for her father’s approval…I don’t trust her.

  47. 365 VikingLover
    May 7, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    SVB, you know what makes me think that this drug theory could be true? The fact that Felicia died. You know it’s a running joke (or at least Pam’s joke lol) that Sookie always kills the bartenders of Fangtasia. I was very surprised when Felicia died and Sookie was not responsible. Now I’m thinking that she WAS responsible, inadvertently responsible of course, for Felicia’s death. Do you think this is what CH was trying to telling us?

  48. 366 Dee
    May 7, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    I am curious if anyone has any theories about why Niall put a spell on Dermot. I try to think of reasons but it doesn’t really add up. The only thing I can think about is that Dermot was involved in Sookies parents murder and Claude even said that the Dermot he knew wouldn’t do it. Was he trying to save them? or was he already under the spell at that time. If he was under the spell then did Niall want them dead? or was Dermot not under the spell at that time, saw what really happened when he tired to save them and Niall put a spell on him to keep it a secret, that is if he was involved.

    • 367 Robin
      May 7, 2010 at 7:19 pm

      I was thinking that Dermot was trying to rescue them from the car. What does not make sense to me is that Niall explained to Sookie that Fintan supposedly protected the Sookie and Jason until he died, and yet the fairies obviously knew about Sookie’s parents because they were killed by Lochlan and Neave in the flood. Does anyone understand how they could know about the parents, but not Sookie and Jason?

      • 368 teamEric
        May 7, 2010 at 10:25 pm

        I am kind of worried that we will find out that Fintan was protecting them from Niall not because he wanted to “love” them, but because he wanted to further his own agenda.. i dont put anything past him… i dont trust him, but kind of feel guilty about that.

    • 369 KC
      May 7, 2010 at 7:57 pm

      I’m curious about this too. Was the intent of the spell to keep Dermot from speaking coherently? Did it work on just fairies and part-fairies or humans too? It doesn’t make sense that Amelia would try to put Sookie in touch with Dermot, if he seemed to be “crazy.” I wonder if there’s something that Niall doesn’t want Dermot to tell?

      • 370 Dee
        May 7, 2010 at 8:20 pm

        Robin-Yeah, I agree and think that Dermot was trying to rescue them. Now I never trusted, Niall, but I thought more like he got Sookie involved in the fae war for his own benefit. But maybe he is even more evil than I thought.

        KC-I think Niall might’ve done it so Dermot wouldn’t be able to tell some secret. Remember when Dermot was trying to tell Sookie, that’s when he had most trouble talking. I think the spell prevented him from being able to talk about the spell and what secret he was keeping.

        Did Niall want Sookie’s parents dead? if so then what would be the reason. We also know that Fintan watched the Stackhouses and he didn’t allow Niall to make contact. Maybe Fintan’s reasons went deeper such as specifically protecting them from Niall, not just afraid of them being exposed to the water fairies. Then it also makes me wonder about Preston, what is the real reason that Niall sent him. Niall was only interested in Sookie, didn’t care for Jason and obviously didn’t even care for Dermot. Sookie might be of more importance than we thought. Either that or there has to be some big plan Niall had all along but so hard to see what it might be.

        • 371 KC
          May 7, 2010 at 9:43 pm

          I’m afraid Niall is less of a doting GGF and more of a fairy prince. What with Claude’s statement about fairies being honest but not necessarily telling the entire truth, I wonder if we don’t have some surprises coming in book 11. One of the reasons I like this series so well though is I can’t see what’s coming so I’m probably *all* wrong. Although the pacing of this book was slow until the frenetic end, it’s like she checked off nearly all of the arguments that would keep Eric from being the HEA and disposed of two suitors IMO. I couldn’t be too much happier.

          • 372 VikingLover
            May 8, 2010 at 4:07 pm

            [it’s like she checked off nearly all of the arguments that would keep Eric from being the HEA and disposed of two suitors IMO. I couldn’t be too much happier.]

            I feel exactly the same way! 🙂 To be honest, I also felt that she kind of eliminated Sam in a way – or at least started to. That Diner scene, where CH throws in that while Sookie is on the phone, Sam pays for “his” half of the meal was interesting. Believe me, I’m not some materialistic hooch and I don’t say that because it bothered me but I felt like it bothered Sookie – or else why mention it? I just felt that it was odd that CH threw that in there. As if to say, Sam is really a good friend but he never actually does anything concrete.

        • 373 caratstick
          May 8, 2010 at 3:08 pm

          Niall is NOT to be trusted. Not an inch.

  49. 375 KittyKat
    May 7, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    I have a question: so, on chapter 1, it’s mentioned that Sookie sees Eric’s whiteness and tears from the moonlight. Which moonlight? If they were in Eric’s bedroom, she wouldn’t see it as it has no windows. She clearly wasn’t at her house, since she wouldn’t have to drive to Bon Temps, and simply tell Eric to leave. Were they using a guest bedroom? And why? Doesn’t make sense.

    • 376 Mishia
      May 7, 2010 at 10:12 pm

      I guess it is just a blooper. It’s not the only one either…I posted something about it in the previous part of the DITF discussion but Sookie’s bruises on her throat mysteriously dispeared and no one mentioned them afterwards. Pam says Sookie was gonna have bruises and Sookie has trouble speaking but the other day Sookie chats with Sam and he obviously doesn’t see anything although she should have large bruises or handprints caused by the flunky of Victor’s that wanted to choke er to death. And Eric doesn’t check her injuries either. She could have been healed by Eric’s blood in her veins but it isn’t explained, I think.

    • 378 VikingLover
      May 7, 2010 at 11:21 pm

      I caught that too, KittyKat.

  50. 379 kelly
    May 7, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    ok, i was getting lost further up. y’all think that alcide gave sookie this drug, which was more than what he told her, or more than he knew.
    the drug had some kind of effect on eric, which in turn would affect alexi and Appius.
    this led to alexi escaping, and being able to take on x number of vampires an then 2 fairies.

    why did alexi go to jason’s house? why did alexi want jason at all? was it too because of the bond? did he want to punish jason for letting sookie drink the drug?

    any ideas?

    • 380 teamEric
      May 7, 2010 at 11:28 pm

      Alexi said that Jason reminded him of a kind sailor who used to take care of him when he was very ill. the sailor was then killed because of his kindness towards Alexi.

  51. 382 Mia
    May 8, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    I read the book, but I want to go back and do a thoughtful reread.

    Bill: I’m not sure how I feel about the apparent resolution of Bill. If the “sister” that looks like his dead wife is his HEA and he goes off with her, what was his apparent devotion to Sookie about? Even in the last book, Sookie is sure he’s trying to win her back so he wouldn’t be with another woman as Tray assumes. I guess I’m hoping for a little more complication particularly after the comment that Eric is building a power base and Sookie is part of it. Could that be Bill’s real motivation?

    Sam: I noticed Sookie spent a paragraph comparing her physical attributes to Sam’s new squeeze. It makes me worry that Sam’s the one since on some level Sookie is judging herself by what Sam likes. Although I believe it’s Eric who points out Alcide’s variety of taste in women, and it made me think that Sam’s the same way: Sookie, Maenad, Tanya, and now the werewolf. Why the parallel to Alcide? It’s interesting that Sam still wants to take Sookie to his brother’s wedding instead of his new girlfriend. Is it going to be a more subtle Alcide ploy? Is he bringing Sookie along so she can use her telepathy?

    Sookie: I want to reread to get a better feel if Sookie is truly over her DAG trauma. Some of the complaints on Amazon are that Sookie seems to recover too quickly. Personally I didn’t want to have to read a book about Sookie’s recovery so I’m glad there was not much trauma angst, but I’m wondering if some of the seeming stupid things she does in this book are an indication that she is having a problem. She invites Heidi in and exposes Hunter to her; she exposes Hunter’s gift to Claude and the FBI agent; she invites Bill’s “sister” in and tells her she, Sookie, killed Lorena; she downs the magical shaman drink with barely a protest. She wants to kill Victor; she wants to kill Ocella.

    Has what she’s suffered and lost made her fatalistic? Suicidal? If pain, suffering, and loss are inevitable, why try? The things that went on with Hunter make me question her commonsense. Before this book, she seemed to be trying to protect Hunter; now he’s been exposed to an FBI agent with a vendetta, a vampire spy working for Victor, and Claude who may or may not have a way of reaching Niall. I’m thinking she may not be as truly healed as she seems.

    Am I reading too much in to Sookie’s state of mind?

  52. May 8, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    I felt so sorry for Claudine’s mate (even if I didn’t agree with his approach towards Sookie). I loved Claude in this book. I can’t wait for more Fae action, even if they don’t seem to be that popular among the fandom?
    More than any S and E scenes I loved the ending with Dermot, Claude and Sookie sleeping beside each other. I also loved the kiss to cure Dermot 🙂

    Eric’s vampiric family ties repulsed me throughout the pages. Reading about his maker and brother just gave me this… wrong feeling.

  53. 384 VikingLover
    May 8, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    I also wonder what the “very unpleasant business” that Appius discussed with Eric was…

  54. 385 Gigi
    May 8, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    I couldn’t say I’m happy “HAPPY” with the book. It was entertaining to read, but I have mix feelings about it. I don’t know yet if the book was too short, or it’s that it lacks of something. Maybe it’s indeed a transitional book, so I’ll try to be patient waiting for the next… because IMO, it left me with more questions than the answers it brought.

    About Alcide’s deviousness, I have to say, like Skarslove, that I really hadn’t read even half of what I expected. I even expected to discover he was the one who buried the second body on her land, but nada… When he asked permission to use her land, she accepted after she thought about it, suggested him to call Bill and gave him his number, and even offered herself twice to talk to the guys Ham said were camping on his place. And he didn’t let her because he didn’t want to abuse of her help asking her for another favor:

    [I made myself pause to think about his request rather than automatically saying yes. I’m learning through experience… I turned the idea around to look at it from all angles. I couldn’t see any obvious downside. “You’re welcome to come,” I said. “I think you should check with Bill Compton, too.”…“They should have asked you if it was convenient for you. You want me to talk to them? I can find out if they’re lying.”… “No thanks, Sookie. I hate to ask you for another favor. You’re a friend of the pack. We’re supposed to watch out for you, not you for us.”… “Don’t worry about it. Y’all can come out here. And if you want me to shake hands with these supposed buddies of your dad’s, I can do that.”]

    Regarding the drug, I agree and have to quote Skarslove: “I’m sorry if this offends anyone- she could have said no. He wasn’t holding a gun to her head.” He called Eric coldass, but Eric has called him scum and other names before, so I think their feelings are mutual (and Sookie wasn‘t offended by it). He didn’t lie to her about the side effects of the drug and told her what it was supposed to do to her perception when she asked. I don’t think it was a matter of him having or not feelings for the unfaithful Annabelle, I saw it as been practical with the way he was trying to get the truth and make the best and fairest decision as a packmaster. If you ask me if he is darker, I have to say yes. But so is Sookie (and I really didn‘t like some of her attitudes towards Eric…). I don’t really saw Alcide bullied Sookie into taking the drug neither, because he told her his arguments and she accepted them:

    “Why would I take an unknown drug?” I asked, genuinely curious.
    “Because otherwise we’ll never get to the bottom of this,” Alcide said. “Right now, the only guilty person I can see is Annabelle. She may only be guilty of being unfaithful to me. I hate that, but she doesn’t deserve to die for it. But if I can’t find out who killed Basim and planted him in your ground, I think the pack will condemn her, since she’s the only one who was involved with him. I guess I’d be a good suspect for killing Basim out of jealousy. But I could have done it legally, and I wouldn’t have blamed you.”
    I knew that was true.
    “They’ll put her to death,” he said, harping on the point that would have the most effect on me.
    I was almost tough enough to shrug. Almost.
    “Can’t I try to do this my way?” I said. “Laying my hands on them?”
    “You’ve told me yourself it’s hard to get a clear thought from Weres.” Alcide said it almost sadly. “Sookie, I’d hoped we’d be a couple one day. Now that I’m packmaster and you’re in love with that cold ass Eric, I guess that’ll never happen. I thought we might have a chance because you couldn’t read my thoughts that clearly. Since I know that, I don’t think I can rely on you laying on your hands and getting an accurate reading.”
    He was right.]

    And I didn’t think it was an exclusive problem of the pack. It also concerned her because the buried body was on her land to make her look guilty. It looks to me like some sort of karma for both of them because of the corpse they disposed together in CD… 🙄 So if he made something really devious, I guess we’ll know about it in the next book. Unless this comment from CH was another like the “Eric is bad” one she was proclaiming on every radio, tv and internet interviews for months not so long ago…

    About Bill… well… poor Mr. Compton was victimized the same way he was victimized on TB:

    [“Lorena saw Bill and his family through the windows of their house.” … “She fell in love… “She turned him that night… I couldn’t imagine how shattered Bill must have been. Everything gone in the blink of an eye: his whole life taken and altered and given back to him in a terrible form… So they traveled together, and while he was bound to her, he hated her, too. He was miserable with her, but she remained obsessed with him… He followed me home and watched me, because the resemblance caught his fancy… she thought Bill would stay with her if she provided him with a companion.”
    “I’m sorry,” I said. “I’m really, really sorry.”
    Judith shrugged. “It wasn’t Bill’s fault…]

    And I agree with MAS that Sookie telling Judith that she killed Lorena was pretty stupid and not smart at all (especially after she read Bill didn‘t wrote her name at his CD as Lorena‘s killer to protect her). Because there’s something in her story that doesn’t completely convince me about Bill’s “sister”. Or maybe this part was written and added later and wasn’t reviewed as it needed to. First, she never said what really happened between Lorena and her. Second, she said that Lorena’s maker, Solomon Brunswick (I have the feeling we’ll meet him “soon”) never met Bill. So how does she, who was turned by Lorena AFTER Bill, know Salomon is in Europe and almost asked him to go with her to see Bill because she was fearful of Lorena? If she was so fearful of Lorena, why did she went alone knowing her maker was stronger than her? How did she knew their “grandpa” is in Europe? I can’t think it was through Bill’s CD because then she also had to know that Lorena was dead, and she said she didn’t knew. But if she didn’t knew, how does she remember the time she felt a strong wrench??? [“I felt a strong wrench around eighteen months ago. . . . That was Lorena’s death?”] In my bullshit meter, this was a 10…

    And, sorry, but this is really, really REALLY ambiguous and I didn’t like it AT ALL (Pfffffffffffft!):

    [I kind of felt like a very large fist had hit me upside the head.
    I would be a total sleaze to feel anything but happy for Bill. Now he could hang around with Judith for centuries, if he wanted to. With the never-aging duplicate of his wife. I made myself smile with gladness…When looking happy didn’t make me happy, I did twenty jumping jacks, then twenty push-ups…
    I forced myself to smile down at the folded piece of paper… Now I was determined to be happy for Bill… I was not going to be one of those awful people who gets all bent out of shape when the ex acquires a replacement. That was hypocritical and selfish to the extreme, and I hoped I was a better person than that. At least I was determined to provide a good imitation of such a person.]

    WTF was that??? Did CH wanted to make amends with BL’s after AB‘s comments at Payley‘s? Pffffffft! (again). Not to mention that there is no real knowledge that Bill restarted any love relationship with his “sister” because his note said clearly: [“Judith has agreed to stay for a week so we can ‘catch up’ with each other…”]. MEH!! My only hope is that the next book could reveal his ties with Victor and/or his responsibility for Sookie’s torture by the faes. BTW, what the hell does Sookie has in her brain that didn‘t keep or even look at the fucking Vampire’s CD?? Couldn‘t she think it would help Eric and herself to know a little more about Victor past or ties? 🙄

    Unless it was made as a foreshadow for the next book, the fact that Claude offered himself to help Sookie to clean the attic the same day he asked to stay at her house (when she never said to him she has the intention to do so) was extremely suspicious for me. It’s true he seems to be caring for her now, and I think his caring is sincere to some degree. But anyway, he’s still in contact with Niall and refuse to give her details about a LOT of things. And it was extremely odd the fearful way he reacted when Sookie told him Dermot was trying to tell her that he was under some kind of spell: [Claude paled. “From whose magic? Has Grandfather come back through the gate?”]…

    Niall is the same enigma and like carastick, I don’t trust him. It’s nice to know that he cares for Sookie’s safety, but the main question about WHY remains the same… And the way Sookie and Claude kissed Dermot to break the spell over him was so extremely lame and “fairy tale” cheesy style, that I was left without other words to describe it. But the important think is to ask WHO put a spell over Dermot, because he was spelled for years…

    Sam is the same boiled egg without salt of always, but he goes to Church now… 🙄
    And I didn’t saw Sookie actually jealous of Jannalynn, just the same old worry for the type of women he likes. The worst think about it is that she is compairing and resembling her relationship with Eric with his (another huge Pfffffffffffft!!).

    I enjoy Sookie and Pam ‘s closeness, and also the fact that Jason is maturing and showing more caring to Sookie. It’s kind of a relief to see he wasn’t reduced to be the moron he is in TB. Eric was too vulnerable. I sense the message that loving Sookie is making him more vulnerable… And that’s dangerous, especially with Victor around, but also humanizes him. Obviously he had a big issue with Appius and Alexei, but I do think Sookie was too self centered to support him as she should and he needed. I read her saying too much “I love him” to others, but her very quick “I love you, too” to him that was too shallow for my taste… Maybe it was better for their relationship to stay away while his family was at his house, but her attitudes of “if he cares about me he knows where to find me” resentful type and “Oh I’m so doom because my boyfriend‘s a vampire” in front of everyone was too much lack of maturity in my opinion… On the other hand it was good to watch their intimacy growth and that she was able to take control when he couldn’t. At least she still thinks and acts quickly when danger is present. I didn’t like either that she was able to feel compassion for Colman (no matter his reasons) and not for Appius with his problem with Alexei, because it looks to me like it was because he was a fae and she has something against vampires. In fact she was extremely hard judging Appius (with or without reasons…) but actually Coleman was a fae that wanted to kill her and/or make her life miserable out of revenge. And I think that the rude way she always behaved with Appius wasn’t actually the way to gain a “father in law” lol. Not, seriously, I know vamps and humans are different, but so does Sookie, and she was extremely rude since she met him, and I think she could use another approach to achieve his support, especially in Eric’s fragile situation with Victor. So maybe it was because of the BB, or maybe it was because she has actually something against all vampires, except Eric, Pam and Bill (because they wanted to use her since they discover she was a telepath, but faes‘ wanted to kill her and she is able to feel compassion for them? m… ). And I think that what Appius meant when he said to her “You won’t keep Eric, either” when she wanted to stake him, was that her attitude against vampires would make them split eventually because Eric is a vampire. I think this is the “issue” that CH could use to make fuzz between them until the last book (if she doesn‘t change her attitude). And I hope that with “I was with family, I was with blood. And I slept” , Sookie will not begin to change her mind again, because IMO, she still quite emotionally immature. And I sense it was written to state and highlight a difference between her fairy family BB and the vampire BB she has with Eric. We’ll see what happens in the next book because I’m happy to know he is actually free and she didn’t kill his maker, and I‘m hoping to see both of them getting closer and feeling more emotionally stable.

    • 386 Robin
      June 7, 2010 at 1:49 am

      [My only hope is that the next book could reveal his ties with Victor and/or his responsibility for Sookie’s torture by the faes.]

      I still think Bill is the rat too, Gigi.

  55. 387 Freyja
    May 8, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    So what do you think about the new companion book that comes out next year? “Small town wedding” It’s supposed to have a lot of impact to the series. I so hope that it doesn’t interfere with E/S relationship.

  56. 388 VikingLover
    May 8, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    {“You won’t keep Eric, either”}

    Hey Gigi! I have to say, I was VERY aggravated that CH threw that line in at this stage of the game. Someone above (can’t remember who) said that she just threw that in there as a kink the same way she threw in the “Vampire loves you” crap in DAG. I have to agree. Honestly, I really don’t need these types of cliffhangers to get me to buy the next book. I love E/S and will buy the books for them every time just to read more about their growing relationship and their adventures. Personally I think we E/S fans have suffered enough over the last 10 books – we didn’t need this line thrown in there. I don’t need anxiety producing lines like that in order to buy the next book. Now it’s just getting kind of annoying and I really wish she didn’t feel the need to do that. We already know they have things to overcome. I wish she could close with cliffhangers related to plot – like VM, Niall’s spell, etc.

    • 389 Gigi
      May 8, 2010 at 7:55 pm

      Of course I understand you, because Eric is my HEA, too. And she also annoys me with this kind of cliffhangers. But I think if she really wanted to extend the story for 3 more books, she would make some more fuzz between them to not reveal him as her HEA until the end.

      • 390 Dee
        May 8, 2010 at 8:11 pm

        In a way maybe it’s a good thing. Maybe it will make Sookie thinking about losing Eric and realizing even more how much she does truly love him. The thought of losing him might be what she needs to act different towards Eric. She did get upset when he said that and said she wanted to prove him wrong so it struck something inside of her.

        • 391 VikingLover
          May 8, 2010 at 8:24 pm

          That’s true, Dee. Thanks! I guess I just felt as if that line felt really contrived. I just feel like now it’s getting to be a little bit too much.

        • 392 Gigi
          May 8, 2010 at 8:41 pm

          That’s what I’m really hoping for, Dee. That she’ll faces the fact that she could loose him and that this will awaken and make her grow for once and all.

    • May 9, 2010 at 3:00 am

      I actually groaned out loud when I read remember all the anxiety I had because of the ‘and the vampire loves you’ part in DAG. and I agree, they have enough issues to iron out without this.

      On the other note, I really the E/S ‘fights’ in this book. However small they are. Both of them never backs down, fun!

  57. 394 Pat
    May 9, 2010 at 8:37 am

    I’ve finished reading the book for the second time and I have read your comments and there are just a few points I would like to mention.

    1. There seems to be quite a few people unhappy with the way Eric acts from the moment his maker arrives.

    To be honest, I feel quite sad and uncomfortable reading those parts as well, and I think we are supposed to feel like that, this is a character we dearly love and I think none of us could enjoy watching him go through what can only be described as personal hell. I hate reading about him being so anxious and afraid, but that doesn’t mean I think it was out of character for him. I just think there are layers to Eric and in most previous books (big exception with book 4) we only got to see the ruthless Eric, but I agree with the idea that AE was Eric in its most unspoiled state, an Eric that hadn’t had to deal with 1000 years of vampire life. Since he finally made peace with his feelings for Sookie and openly admits he loves her, we get now to see much more of that side of him, but if you noticed it’s only when he deals with Sookie. If you remember well, when he was dealing with someone like Alcide, even after his maker arrived, we got old bossy Eric, telling Alcides what to do.

    So, I think we are going to get back “old” Eric in the next book, but always tempered with a much more sensitive and caring Eric, when Sookie is involved. And that is fine with me 🙂

    2. I think the “you won’t keep him either” thing is the “the vampire loves you” of this book. CH seems to think she needs to keep Sookie’s HEA as an open issue to keep the readers interested and so she gives with one hand (all the love and intimacy moments between Sookie and Eric) and takes with the other (you won’t keep Eric, the fact that Sookie seems always a bit hesitant to tell Eric she loves him), never letting us be totally sure of it. Like someone said before, I personally could do without it, but it seems to be her modus operadum so I think we just have to accept it and recognise for what it is, a simple mechanism to keep the suspense going. Which takes me to point 3.

    3. I totally believe Eric is Sookie’s HEA. And, on top of all the reasons that have been discussed here, I think the most obvious one is the presence of Hunter in the books. Hunter adds absolutely zero to the plot of any of the books where he has appeared and/or been mentioned. I am convinced the sole reason for his existence is to allow Sookie to have her HEA with a vampire (who is obviously Eric, as Bill is now totally out of the race and can’t see CH convincingly introducing another vampire candidate) and still get to experience raising a child (Remy is destined to die in the last book) which is something very important to her. Hunter has never made sense IMO. Does it make sense that Hadley abandoned Hunter and then NEVER tried to see him again? I always thought that although she was a character with serious issues, she was not without a good side (proved by her turning Jake into a vampire, because she was sorry for him after all). Then Niall gives Sookie Remy’s contact but apparently never tries to see the child himself. Surely he must have known Hunter was family as well? And finally, am I the only one to think it’s bizarre for a father to leave his son with a woman he has seen once in his life (for a very short period of time) and then talked on the phone another time? I know Sookie is family but he knows absolutely nothing about her and he even thinks she is weird but the has no qualms with asking her if Hunter can spend the night with her???!!! It’s previous obvious CH wanted to gradually bring Hunter more into the story but I think this was too forced. I would be very surprised if Sookie does not end up getting to raise Hunter and that means…. getting to stay with Eric as well 🙂

    • 395 Mia
      May 9, 2010 at 9:44 am

      I felt the same way when Remy brought Hunter to see Sookie. I thought it was odd he would leave his son with someone he barely knows regardless if she’s family.

      However if Sookie is destined to raise Hunter, I don’t think Remy has to die. He could turn Hunter over to her because he, Remy, can’t deal with the telepathy or Hunter could be having problems with the telepathy, and Remy could send Hunter to Sookie to help him learn to control it. I guess I’m growing weary of death and grief not wanting another family member to die.

      However it might be hard to work Hunter permanently into Sookie’s life at this point. He’s so young, and she works odd hours at Merlotte’s. Plus she’s constantly being dragged into supernatural intrigues. A child would up her vulnerability level too especially one who can’t hide his gift.

      I think about her desire for a family of her own since it’s mentioned so often in the books, and how she would ever be able to manage it. Since the vampires all know about her, it doesn’t seem like she would ever be free of them and a normal family would be leverage to use against her.

      • 396 Pat
        May 9, 2010 at 10:53 am

        I don’t see Remy turning Hunter over to Sookie, he comes across as a loving father and looking at Sookie’s grandmother example, raising a child telepath might be hard but not impossible. I do hope you’re right and he doesn’t die, but I have my doubts.

        I guess another possible scenario would be for Sookie to get very involved in taking care of Hunter, but with Remy still the main guardian. This would somehow fit in with what CH has said about Sookie getting not exactely what she wanted, she would still have a role in a child’s life, but not the way she had imagined it.

    • 397 Mishia
      May 9, 2010 at 12:39 pm

      I agree with the Hunter thing. It is totally possible. Plus Eric already met Hunter, didn’t he? And he didn’t eat the little fly but SMILED at him. Could it be that CH already establishes amicable attitude between those two?

      • 398 Pat
        May 9, 2010 at 1:11 pm

        Yes, I thought it was quite interesting that CH has Eric smile at Hunter… forecasting a relationship to come? 🙂

        Still, I was a bit disappointed that Sookie chose to keep Hunter’s telepathy a secret from Eric… I thought by now she trusted him more than that… 😦

        • 399 Mishia
          May 9, 2010 at 1:41 pm

          Well it wasn’t like he was eagerly inquisitive about him. But he wasn’t curious about Claude staying in the house either. But it did suprise me that she did not confide in him after she had sorta exposed Hunter to the FBI agent and the vampire tracker. After all she might need someone to protect him.

        • 401 Reginabee
          May 10, 2010 at 5:30 pm

          That gave me a moment for pause, also, but in thinking about it she did the right thing. Hunter’s gift is not her secret to give. He’s not her child and she is not the one who will have to deal with any possible fallout from his telepathy becoming an open secret like it is with her.

  58. 402 smokestoomuchcrack
    May 9, 2010 at 2:18 pm

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    • 403 Pat
      May 9, 2010 at 2:25 pm

      You should go to other, more “original”, sites then… we’ll miss you though… kidding!

    • 404 Gigi
      May 9, 2010 at 3:12 pm

      Ouch… Seems that “traffic” is a touchy word for you… not kidding. lol

    • 405 Dunkinstiks
      May 9, 2010 at 3:32 pm

      Poor thing, must be mistaken and think *some* of us give a dam.

    • May 9, 2010 at 11:16 pm

      Thanks for dropping by. As you can see this blog has quite a thriving little community, so allow me to give you a word of advice on generating traffic for yours…since it certainly appears you could do with it.
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      I will, however leave your comment up, so that the whole world can see what an idiot you are for 1. Being such FAIL at the very fundamentals of running a blog and 2. bagging me out for having no original content when there are 4 original articles on the front page alone and tons more in the archives.

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    • 407 Serena
      May 10, 2010 at 12:04 am

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    • 408 VampirePamsGirl
      May 10, 2010 at 2:17 am

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  59. 409 Angie
    May 10, 2010 at 6:29 am

    I still have a few chapters to go, but these are my thoughts so far:

    – I adored the first third of the novel a.k.a. The Sookie/Eric/Pam Show, as someone’s already called it. That was awesome. I love that Sookie readily tells everyone who asks that she does love Eric and that he’s her boyfriend. I melt into a puddle whenever Eric refers to her as his wife. Love Pam’s snark in regards to their schoompiness. Love that Eric and Pam are sharing “state secrets” with Sookie. Loved Sookie and Pam taking out the vamps that Victor sent to kill them. I was hoping that fighting Victor’s impending uprising was going to be a major part of the plot of this book. Looks like we’ll have to wait until the next one.

    – The “Jump” scene, even if was only one paragraph brought me so much joy, you don’t even know. 🙂

    – Did not like the Appius/Alexei plot at all. I just found it really, really weird, and not good-weird. I didn’t see Appius as evil, per se, but did not find him likeable at all (Black Sabbath t-shirt aside, lol). Eric’s uneasiness around him unsettled me a lot. I’m surprised Eric turned out as cool as he did with such a creepster for a maker.

    Yep, sorry, I vastly prefer the TB Eric/Godric backstory to this one. And as much as I’ve always been fascinated by the Romanov tragedy, I so did not care for this character. I found him cheesy, just like I find Elvis/Bubba cheesy. Sorry, but no. Just no.

    – Judith was kind of interesting. I mean, it does feel like CH just sort of pulled this character out of her ass, but she does seem to give a good excuse for Bill to not be so hung up on Sookie. So, so tired of that. Give it up, Bill, Sookie is never gonna sleep with you again. I can deal with Judith being Bill’s HEA, although I don’t think it’s going to be nearly that easy. Also, Judith seemed like a really nice person. Therefore, if Bill tries to use her like he used Selah to try to make Sookie jealous, he will officially qualify as Biggest Douche in the Universe (tm South Park).

    – The parts with Hunter were adorable. Like incredibly adorable. I agree with all those who have said that Sookie doesn’t necessarily seem like the type of woman who genuinely thinks she needs a husband and kids to be fulfilled, but I’m sure she craves those things because she thinks she should. However, I have had this theory ever since the beginning of From Dead to Worse, and that is this: Sookie will probably end up with Sam, Eric will become King, and Bill will probably die. I mean, I want Eric and Sookie together forever, but I never get what I want in terms of ships (whatever, we all know that Sookie will totally be paying a certain amount of booty-calls to Eric well into middle-age – or, well, in my fanfics, she will!) As much as I thought she and Hunter’s scenes were cute, they still depressed me a little because they reminded me that Sookie will probably choose a boring, normal life raising a (granted, extraordinarily gifted and adorable) child. I mean, married to a Viking vampire? That’s a little too exotic for a girl like our Sook. Though I pray that I’m wrong, that Sookie realizes that she herself is extraordinary, I’m not getting my hopes up. (Oh, who am I kidding? My hopes are so up right now, it’s pathetic!)

  60. 410 Dwimordene
    May 11, 2010 at 10:58 am

    So so many comments… I found the book slow the first half… There was not much information usefull to the plot, but it came better… CH is getting better at writting, that is very obvious and good.
    I think there was too much time than needed in the hunter story, but it could be allowed because now Hunter is known by both fairies and vampires… He is going to become a much more important character. I’m sure he is going to be in a lot of trouble, and that would explain that Sookie will have to raise him and protect him, Remy is just a man, he might be murdered but if he doesn’t he won’t be able to help.
    I like also Jason much better, he resembled True Blood Jason… And by being a were now he can deal with the supes he will also be in the plot ance again.
    Somehow I think the HEA is already done. Now they both have to learn to be together and answer questions and survive. We will get more of Sookies aging and maybe we get to know that one day he turns here, even if we don’t see it in the books. They will have to protect Hunter from the vamps. They will have to deal with VM and FdC, also with Nial (I know believe he killed Fintan). ANd also there will be a lot of mess with the goverments and FBI.
    It was a book that has opened many plots, I wouldn’t be surprised if the plot line changes a lot from now on.

  61. 411 camp
    May 11, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    I personally loved that we got less sex scenes in this book, CH doesn’t write them well anyway they honestly make me cringe. Besides intimacy is about much more than sex and we got plenty non-physical closeness which I loved.


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