Secret Teaser to air during “Lost” Finale

I’m not sure if this hidden clip is going to end up on YouTube, or in some form that I will be able to post here…we’ll have to wait and see.

As usual, I will try to get it posted up as soon as I can.

I have to say you guys, I’m really not excited about this. I’m trying not to get too overwrought until I see it, but I hardly recognise this character as Eric any more.

I really, really hope there is something in here that proves me wrong.

UPDATE: There’s not.

Source: AlexSkarsgardORG

611 Responses to “Secret Teaser to air during “Lost” Finale”

  1. 1 Kathy
    May 24, 2010 at 1:41 am

    It’s already aired, but the site you have to go to upload the picture of the cod keeps crashing. Grrrrrr! I’m going to lose my mind!

    • May 24, 2010 at 2:00 am

      With all of the jumping through hoops they seem to be making everyone do, maybe they just want to test how badly everyone wants a look at the hot Viking lol

  2. May 24, 2010 at 1:55 am

    No smart phone here so I hope you can get your hands on the clip ๐Ÿ™‚ I’m not sure how to feel about the clip with all the convo happening on the yummy Viking pic.. I want to love it but don’t want to get my hopes up on expecting anything.

  3. 4 Kathy
    May 24, 2010 at 1:56 am

    I still can’t get the page where you upload the code to load. I’m getting REALLY REALLY frustrated!!!

    • 5 Dee
      May 24, 2010 at 2:00 am

      wait, it showed already during Lost? let me know because I’ll look for it now and try…did it just show it?

  4. 6 VikingLover
    May 24, 2010 at 1:57 am

    Kathy, it aired on the network that is showing lost already? Don’t worry, Dee is recording it and she will get the url for us so that we can watch it.

  5. 7 Kathy
    May 24, 2010 at 2:05 am

    Yes, it aird about 8:45. It was embedded in a new promo. But I can’t get the damn web page to load, so I haven’t been able to upload the code. STUPID! They should have had a lot of servers on this one. Did they think no one was going to do it?

  6. 8 Dee
    May 24, 2010 at 2:05 am

    you know what ill check whats been dvr’d so far, grrrr why’d they say 11:15 and show it over an hour early, i would’ve just kept it on lost

  7. 9 Kathy
    May 24, 2010 at 2:11 am

    Don’t know, but I was fast forwarding through the commercials, saw the promo as I was flashing buy and the code flash. So I stopped and took a picture. Does no good. Still can’t get the first web page to come up.

    • 10 Dee
      May 24, 2010 at 2:16 am

      was it a TB trailer or just the pic? bc i just looked and can’t see it…unless it went by that quick which means it was up for a sec

  8. 11 Mony
    May 24, 2010 at 2:12 am

    so it was already aired….??
    God they said 11.15!!!!!grrrr!!!!

  9. 12 Dee
    May 24, 2010 at 2:14 am

    Ok i am real confused. I went through all of Lost I have recorded so far and didn’t see anything. Did I FF too fast and didn’t see it? I doubt it though, when was it?

  10. 13 Mony
    May 24, 2010 at 2:16 am

    I’m on Facebook True Blood’s Page right now…they said they can’t get the video becouse of some server problem and will be fix it soon!!!!

    • 14 Dee
      May 24, 2010 at 2:19 am

      now i am so confused. It wasn’t a trailer bc i would’ve noticed a trailer…so it was just the pic they put up? if i know what im looking for it will be easier…i might have to go back and just FF on FF1 not FF2, this way its easier to catch

      • 15 Mony
        May 24, 2010 at 2:22 am

        Don’t know…i’m confused too…but many people get the code but when they put in on the official site to watch the clip it doesn’t work….
        they are having problems…..

  11. 16 Kathy
    May 24, 2010 at 2:17 am

    It aired on the fist “Lost” thing. Where all the actors and writers are talking about “Lost.” It was on from 7-9. It aired about 8:45. People must have caught it, since I can’t get the site to load. Maybe they’ll air it again at 11:15. I decided to DVR the whole thing since I never got past the fist episode of Lost, hoping the first two hours would explain it enough for me to understand the last 2 1/2! LOL!

    • 17 Dee
      May 24, 2010 at 2:21 am

      FUCK thats why then, i didn’t record the 7-9 one…I thought it was more than enough to do 9-11:30 when they said 11:15…damn it…i had a feeling i should’ve just done the whole thing…thanks

  12. 18 Kathy
    May 24, 2010 at 2:19 am

    FINALLY they say something! Boy, HBO needs a new marketing/ad agency. So far everything for this season sucks (and I ain’t trying to be funny!)

  13. 19 Kathy
    May 24, 2010 at 2:23 am

    What True Blood page said they were having problems w/video? They’re having problems with the sweepstakes again apparently.

  14. 21 Dee
    May 24, 2010 at 2:29 am

    Kathy-you said the site where you upload the pic is having problems right? hmmm i wonder if you post the pic of the code on here, if i use the code reader app if that will work bc that is supposed to bring you right to the clip…maybe that site is fine?

  15. 22 Kathy
    May 24, 2010 at 2:30 am

    How do I upload it here?

  16. 24 Mony
    May 24, 2010 at 2:33 am

    i guess using imageshak or tinypic is fine….am i wrong?
    just posting the link with the immage of the coede.

  17. 32 Liz
    May 24, 2010 at 2:37 am

    well that wasnt so scary now! no grotesque buckets of filth

  18. 34 Freyja
    May 24, 2010 at 2:37 am

    OMG!!!!! That was really great ๐Ÿ˜€ ….even though I do want what is his ๐Ÿ˜‰

  19. 36 Mony
    May 24, 2010 at 2:38 am

    OMG Eric was sooo funny and great!!!!!!
    I guess we missed the part where she saw him and Yvetta…becouse he mentioned her so of course when sookie run downstairs he was wiht her!!!

  20. 37 Kathy
    May 24, 2010 at 2:38 am

    Whoa ho ho. Thanks! I still can’t get the damn first site to come up.

    LOL! Just exactly what I thought it would be! Love the Bill comment! Tee hee! BL’s are going to lose their minds!

  21. 38 stephernutter
    May 24, 2010 at 2:39 am

    I like it!
    But what’s weird is I got a different promo on my iphone. It seems there are different versions? I got sent to http://hbo.plushms.mobi/TB/trailer_iphone.shtml

    • 39 Serena
      May 24, 2010 at 2:46 am

      that one is a different one, its a mix of almost everything, the other promos and the basement one.. i think there might some new stuff there too.

    • 40 stephernutter
      May 24, 2010 at 2:47 am

      nvm. there’s a slightly different version of the season 3 trailer to the one that SVB posted earlier, and there’s also the clip in the DOD.

      i guess that wasn’t an arm in the background afterall…?

      • 41 Serena
        May 24, 2010 at 2:53 am

        No it is different… there is Tara running in a white dress, and the magister says “Trouble abounds in your fair state.” Bud and Andy get a line, “Every time we solve one murder two more show up.”

    • 45 Freyja
      May 24, 2010 at 2:55 am

      Sookie running in the woods in her Merlotte uniform and somebody chasing her hhhmmmm

    • 47 Freyja
      May 24, 2010 at 3:16 am

      Did anyone get what the magistrate is saying? Oh and it looks as though he is on the throne in Fangtasia ๐Ÿ™‚

  22. 48 Freyja
    May 24, 2010 at 2:40 am

    Ok so DOD sex likely. And HAH “isnt Bill up to his stamina” muhahaha

  23. 50 Dee
    May 24, 2010 at 2:42 am

    Liz-You fucking rock!!! thank you…damn did i record 2 1/2 hours of lost for nothing…I knew not to trust the 11:15pm thing…i didn’t get to use this new technology hahahaha

    I love how he said “even though i do want what is his” and the way he looks at her when he says it…6 hours DAYYYYUUUUMMMM ERIC…no wonder Sookie jumps on him in the trailer lol

    • 51 Liz
      May 24, 2010 at 2:57 am

      awww, thanks hun, but really all i did was google “true blood code” over and over till it came up, so i cant really take credit for breaking the code, i just ninja’d it

  24. 53 Mony
    May 24, 2010 at 2:42 am

    OK i just re-watched it …..and Yvetta is behind him…in chain…some hot stuff over there!!!!!!!

    • 54 Krista
      May 24, 2010 at 3:00 am

      I agree, we don’t really know what they were doing in this video, we just know that it lasted for 6 (good lord) hours. That’s it. What ever Eric did, we can see by Sookie’s face that she knows by this scene and we will too.

  25. 55 Lkc
    May 24, 2010 at 2:45 am

    OK that was cool and all but why all the drama to see it? The reason I thought it was embedded was because we were going to see FF or more nudity than they were willing to show on TV. Or was it just to generate all the hype?

    • 56 Dee
      May 24, 2010 at 2:48 am

      honestly its probably just an advertisement thing for these app’s…they probably paid HBO money, they worked this thing out so ppl download their apps.

  26. 57 Ashley
    May 24, 2010 at 2:45 am

    I liked it i dont think there was anything gross about it. The only thing that irked me was Sookie accusing Eric. What motive would Eric have to kidnap Bill, besides wanting Sookie? Does she think hes that obsessed with her? LOL

    • 58 Krista
      May 24, 2010 at 2:50 am

      Well in the show, some would say, SA wanted Eric to take care of the fact Bill knows about selling vamp blood

      • 59 Ashley
        May 24, 2010 at 2:52 am

        Yeah but Sookie doesnt know about that, so her only motivation for thinking that is because she knows ERic wants her.

        • 60 VikingLover
          May 24, 2010 at 3:01 am

          Ashley, because Bill punched him the face in Dallas. Also, she thought he had kidnapped him in Dalls as well. Remember that he did call Lorena in. I would have accused him 1st and then Lorena 2nd.

          • 61 Ashley
            May 24, 2010 at 3:04 am

            Yeah i guess the punch is good enough reason. But does Sookie even know that Eric called Lorena? Did Bill tell her? I dont remember him telling her.

            • May 24, 2010 at 3:09 am

              I still subscribe to Sunny’s Alternate BBS theory. I think that during their talk prior to the bomb going off that Eric did tell her he called Lorena in… why else would she ask in this new clip if he could contact her.

              • 63 VikingLover
                May 24, 2010 at 3:13 am

                Because Bill probably told her that it was Eric who sent her in. Bill would tell her anything that would help in his “Eric is evil” campaign.

            • 64 VikingLover
              May 24, 2010 at 3:14 am

              He probably told her off-camera.

  27. 66 MoreEric
    May 24, 2010 at 2:54 am

    THANKS SO MUCH for all your hard work to put this up for us!

    Six hours? Bill not up to snuff … LMFAO

    Eric is smokin hot !!!!!!!!!!

  28. 67 Lkc
    May 24, 2010 at 2:54 am

    Well and as usual Sookie comes off as a total beotch in that clip. Honestly why does the Viking want her?

    • 68 VikingLover
      May 24, 2010 at 2:56 am

      It’s okay LLC – from what we have seen of the new promos, her attitude towards him improves dramatically.

      • 69 Lkc
        May 24, 2010 at 2:58 am

        yeah I know but I hate the way she has been portrayed almost as much as what has been done to Eric. I really do miss the early books –Sookie!

      • 72 Ashley
        May 24, 2010 at 2:59 am

        I think youre right and i hope so, because in this clip she was really annoying. I already mentioned it but what real reason does she have for accusing ERic? What would his motivation be for kidnapping Bill? She doesnt even know about the V selling and what the Queen said to Eric. I guess shes just making assumptions based on the Laffy thing, but it still annoys me.

        • 73 Robin
          May 24, 2010 at 3:05 am

          She is probably making assumptions based on the fact she thought Eric kidnapped Bill in Dallas. Also, Bill punched Eric in the face in Dallas.

  29. 75 VikingLover
    May 24, 2010 at 2:55 am

    **Whew** Okay, that wasn’t so bad!! Thank God! Can someone tells me what he says to her after she says “Where can I find Lorena”?

    I loved: “You seem surprised? Is Bill’s stamina not up to snuff??” HAHAHAHAHA!

    • 76 Dee
      May 24, 2010 at 3:01 am

      he said something along the lines of: after your last encounter with Ms. Krisinski(i think thats her last name) maybe its best if i handled this

    • 79 Liz
      May 24, 2010 at 3:01 am

      he basically said, he’ll deal with Lorena, due to the nature of their last run in

      • 80 VikingLover
        May 24, 2010 at 3:04 am

        Oooh! Okay thanks Dee and Liz! I had a hard time understanding what he said. Thanks!

    • 81 Ashley
      May 24, 2010 at 3:19 am

      It sounds like he says “given your last run in with Miss Krissy?!” WTF? Am i hearing that wrong?

  30. 82 Mony
    May 24, 2010 at 2:58 am

    the funny part is that they are talking with Yvetta probably bheind him….
    i sooo wanna see Sookie’s face when she run downstairs!!!!LOL
    Thank all of you for posting this!!!!!!!

  31. 84 Dee
    May 24, 2010 at 2:59 am

    ok so a few mins ago they showed a new trailer during lost, some new scenes and they had the qb code, i used the neoreader app and sent me to same vid that Liz posted

  32. 85 Kathy
    May 24, 2010 at 3:01 am

    Still not 11:15 is it? WTF with giving the time if the time isn’t right?

    • 86 Dee
      May 24, 2010 at 3:05 am

      i know so annoying…It’s funny because I just happened to put Lost on and it was commercials, the 2nd commercial that came on was the TB trailer.

  33. 87 MollyS
    May 24, 2010 at 3:07 am

    So what was Sookie doing in the 6 hours it took her to get from the “French restaurant on the way to Shreveport” to Fangtasia?

    And, given that she worked all day, then got fixed up and went out to dinner, then did who knows what until she got to Eric’s, she seems awfully wide awake and her hair and clothes are not at all messed up.

    Are we just not supposed to think about these things?

    • 88 VikingLover
      May 24, 2010 at 3:10 am

      No Molly, the 6 hours is probably during the time that she got off work, went home showered got dressed, etc. It’s not 6 hours from the time Bill was kidnapped.

      • 89 Ashley
        May 24, 2010 at 3:12 am

        But why would she assume hed been having sex with Yvetta for six hours specifically? The only thing I can think of is maybe its been six hours since it got dark.

        • 90 VikingLover
          May 24, 2010 at 3:20 am

          Oh wait, you guys are right. She says “where were you at 11:00”. How could 6 hours have gone by since Bill went missing??? Unless she went him first and then to Shreveport? WTF?

          • 91 VikingLover
            May 24, 2010 at 3:20 am


            • 92 millarca21
              May 24, 2010 at 4:13 am

              I think she went home for a nap and when she woke up she redid her hair and makeup because she looks so neat six hours after Bill’s disappearance. Actually Eric looks very neat, too, for someone who has had six hours of sex play with Yvetta. Neither one of them had a hair out of place.

              Something’s fishy about all this.

    • 93 Ashley
      May 24, 2010 at 3:11 am

      I didnt really get that either? No way its five o clock in the morning. I mean i assume maybe she went to Bills house and then to fangtasia. That would have taken an hour tops.

      • 94 VikingLover
        May 24, 2010 at 3:24 am

        Plus, wouldn’t the sun be rising soon? Shouldn’t Eric be getting ready for his daytime sleep? Unless he has a “hideyhole” somewhere in Fangtasia, which is possible. Ugh, come TB Writers! Seriously!!

        • 95 Ashley
          May 24, 2010 at 3:26 am

          Yeah it doesnt make sense. Why would she say six hours? And yeah if it was five o clock Eric would have to sleep. So i dont get it.

          • 96 Dee
            May 24, 2010 at 4:26 am

            I think she just wanted to know what he was doing all evening. It’s kind of like when the police might question somebody they say “so where were you on the day of so and so” they want to know about the whole day…she wants to see what he had time to do earlier and if it’s possible. Maybe she thought he could’ve followed them and waited until he had the opportunity so since she is not sure of the time frame when he would’ve left Fangtasia she just mentioned all 6 hours of the evening that has passed by to get a clearer answer

        • 98 sunnynala
          May 24, 2010 at 3:31 am

          I think it just means he’s been “busy” for the last six hours while Sookie was finishing up work, getting ready for her date, and actually being on the date up until Bill was kidnapped.

          • 99 ellemoe
            May 24, 2010 at 6:08 pm

            I was going to say something along those lines too. Bill wouldn’t have been able to take her out until the sun set and some planning would have to have gone into Bill’s kidnapping. There’s no way Eric just knew where Bill was and was able to kidnap him. Someone had to follow them or something along those lines. So from the beginning of their date to Sookie’s interrupting Eric has possibly been six hours. If that makes sense.

            As an aside, I want to know how difficult it was for her to keep eye contact with Eric… heh, heh, heh…

    • 100 Robin
      May 24, 2010 at 3:12 am

      That is exactly what I was thinking when she said six hours. What could she have been possibly been doing for the last six hours? We know it only takes about an hour to drive from Bon Temps to Shreveport, according to the books.

  34. 101 VikingLover
    May 24, 2010 at 3:09 am

    You know, I actually liked Sookie in this. I think her attitude was appropriate given the circumstances and I like that she shows no fear of him. I also like that he gave her important info about his position – the he is duty bound to find him as Sheriff of the area. Very good and I liked it. Plus it’s nice, as Dee has said, that he is not asking her to find him but telling her that it’s his job to find him instead.

    • 102 Robin
      May 24, 2010 at 3:10 am

      Hey guys, is this the first time that he tells her that he is interested in her besides that first night in Fangtasia?

    • 112 Ashley
      May 24, 2010 at 3:14 am

      Well you are right. Its good shes not scared of him. And i liked the fact that he said its his duty to find Bill. What i didnt like is her accusing him, but considering the punch in Dallas as you mentioned it makes more sense.

    • 113 OrientalThorn
      May 24, 2010 at 11:11 am

      I liked it too. It turned out better than I thought it would. The whole dungeon / basement thing is still a little emmm…. disturbing, but that whore probably didn’t deserve better (although she did have him for 6 f**king hours!!). How is it that Eric still manages to look so good in a cam video?? LOL! I was truly dreading this scene, but it turned out ok. I’m glad that Sookie is ok with it (I didn’t see disgust on her face at all). Loved Eric’s remark about Bill’s stamina! And definitely loved how he looked at her when he said Bill has something he wants. Loved her quick little glance southward when she said “then do it” ๐Ÿ™‚ Looked like she gulped when she said that! haha!

  35. 114 sunnynala
    May 24, 2010 at 3:10 am

    Was the trailer that aired during Lost any different than the ones we’ve seen? if so, anybody have a link yet?

  36. 117 MoreEric
    May 24, 2010 at 3:13 am

    Did anyone notice at the very last second right before the clip ends that Sookie finally give a quick glance down at Eric’s GP?

    So is naky in this clip or what? I think he is.

    • 118 Ashley
      May 24, 2010 at 3:22 am

      Hahahahaha yeah she does…i didnt notice it before…its just a quick glance but she definitely looked! Who wouldnt?

      • 119 MoreEric
        May 24, 2010 at 3:27 am

        I noticed it on about the 20th view lol.

        Honest to God he is just stunningly beautiful.

        Man you can bet that all the Bill Babe sites are passin around a bottle of anti-depressants tonight.

        • 120 Ashley
          May 24, 2010 at 3:30 am

          I still think that they dont see anything happening between Sookie and Eric to be honest, from what ive read. They think its all just misdirection, and that the Sookie/Eric bed scene is just a dream. I guess people can have there own opinions, but based on what weve seen i dont know what they are thinking.

      • 121 Serena
        May 24, 2010 at 3:28 am

        Yeah and I love how it is in response to him full body scanning her, she couldn’t help herself.. lol.

  37. 122 Jo
    May 24, 2010 at 3:16 am

    ok, call me boring, but sex in the basement dirty = disgusting,
    AB and HBO really think this is a fantasy that women (or men) have?
    this is a fantasy of some guy strange and uptight, and not a Sex Viking God who can have any woman, TB Eric or Eric Book. He could well have BDSM in a local cleaner is not it? Book Eric definitely be dead to me in TB. I still like it, but it’s not Eric.
    this is my complaint and not the form of sex he wants.
    and besides THIS is the major reason for Eric not have kidnapped the Bill? blehh

    • May 24, 2010 at 3:44 am

      You’re right, Jo. Of course the slop bucket has been emptied, and Royce has been scraped from the floor. Did anyone think they wouldn’t have been? It’s still the same disgusting place.

      There was no indication from the last 2 seasons that Eric was hardcore into kink, but now the first thing he does with a new playmate is a 6 hr marathon bondage session? I know others disagree, but my bs sensor is going off.

      • 124 Ashley
        May 24, 2010 at 3:48 am

        Well what i found weird is Sookie didnt seem all that shocked by whatever she was seeing. What she seemed shocked by was the six hours part.

        • May 24, 2010 at 4:02 am

          She should have been shocked at was the lack of blood. I still think he’s been holding Yvetta and questioning her.

          • 126 Osterby
            May 24, 2010 at 9:04 pm

            If you think back to LDID, after Sookie was saved from TFOTS, when they were celebrating at Stan’s, Stan took Sookie upstairs to see Stan’s punishment for Isabelle and Hugo. Book Sookie thought it was appropriate. It wouldn’s be OOC for Sookie to act the way she did in the DOD, if you take this into consideration.

        • 127 Liz
          May 24, 2010 at 4:50 am

          i think she didnt bat an eyelash at it as she is used to Bills poundings into the dirt in the graveyards antics

          • May 24, 2010 at 4:53 am

            I will admit that the sex she has been exposed to would make her view on the world skewed… yuck is all i have to say.

            • 129 Liz
              May 24, 2010 at 4:57 am

              she is probably used to “seeing” peoples fantasies all the time as well, and this really isn’t that far out there

      • May 24, 2010 at 3:58 am

        I totally agree… and the fact that Sookie didn’t looked shocked by what he was doing and what he said… she didn’t even bat an eyelid

        • 131 Ashley
          May 24, 2010 at 4:00 am

          yeah somethings up but i dont know what.

        • 132 Sibyl_Vane
          May 24, 2010 at 4:19 am

          Someone will have to restrain me from killing AB if it turns out that E & Y are in the basement playing strip yhatzee or something equally retarded.

        • 133 Serena
          May 24, 2010 at 4:57 am

          When you take into consideration Eric himself, I think he seems strained and somewhat reserved, but that might be more on the ineffectualness of Yvetta. lol. I also don’t think he seems very turned on, his fangs aren’t even out when he is speaking to Sookie.

          • May 24, 2010 at 5:03 am

            So if Yvette is a spy for someone and to go on from Renee’s theory that they aren’t having sex (Eric is questioning her) that he limits the talk due to that. He still maybe saying little other then the appropriate lines: Bill’s in my area i must look for him…

            Now how does that line tie in with the queens visit???? Renee??? Sunny????

  38. 136 A Northern Soul
    May 24, 2010 at 3:26 am

    Eric is a vampire, and vampires don’t live by human social codes. It’s even hinted at in the books that he’s seen and done some nasty things in his long life. This scenerio doesn’t bother me, and the whole thing with Eric/Yvetta seems to be consensual.

    The way he admits to Sookie that he wants her, then looking her up and down is HOT. OOH and Miss Sook is caught totally off guard and at a loss for words. LOL! Major sexual chemistry going on there!

    • 137 Ashley
      May 24, 2010 at 3:28 am

      I agree. Crap, it was probably Yvettas idea to do it down there for all we know. And Eric is probably up for anything. I dont see anything wrong with it.

      • May 24, 2010 at 3:47 am

        And how does the new hire know about the super secret dungeon of doom? And how stupid would Eric have to be to use that place for sex with strangers?

    • May 24, 2010 at 3:09 pm

      I absolutely agree, ANS. I really don’t think vampires are fastidious or squeamish about sex, violence, etc. Book Eric was not either. This does not bother me at all. Doesn’t mean it’s my scene, particularly, but I’m not pissed off or disgusted by it. Whether it’s sex with Yvetta, or torturing her about the were-witches (although I think episode 1 is too early for that to have started), neither one of these are outside of the character of Eric–book or TV.

    • 141 LLE
      May 24, 2010 at 5:18 pm

      Sookie was loss with words at the end.

  39. 142 Patty
    May 24, 2010 at 3:26 am

    I’m confused about what on Earth AB is doing to this show. All the characters have become cardboard.

    I don’t understand why people worship AB. So yeah…he plays to the audience’s wants and keeps Eric and Jason naked the whole time…but I’d rather watch Eric have some substance.

    • 143 MoreEric
      May 24, 2010 at 3:36 am

      I haven’t seen Eric naked the whole time on this show … quite the contrary.

      AB won a Oscar for American Beauty and several emmys for Six Feet Under. CH SOLD these characters to AB so they now belong to him and she has no say on his decisions or the development from here on out. AB did however agree to try and stay true to the “spirit” of the books.

      I for one love AB’s Eric much more than CHu and I’m sure that confession will not win me any friends …lol

      • 144 Ashley
        May 24, 2010 at 3:39 am

        I like both. I dont have a problem with TB Eric really. What i have a problem with is TB Bill.

      • May 24, 2010 at 3:44 am

        AB may have won Oscars but he is not above reproach.

        CH did not sell her characters to him. She sold him the rights to make a television adaption of her books. Ball does not own the characters.

        Harris created these characters, and their essence belongs to her. Ball has the right to play with them, but the real characters belong to the author. True Blood is an adaption.

        And right now I’m not very happy with it.

      • 149 A Northern Soul
        May 24, 2010 at 3:46 am

        Well, though I do like book Eric better, I totally understand where you’re coming from. I love TB Eric, though he is darker than BE. Also, you see flashes of BE pop up, like in teaser clip. The way he he asks her with that little smirk if Bill isn’t up to snuff, then gives her the once-over while admitting he wants her – oh yeah, that’s totally something I could see BE doing.

        • 150 Ashley
          May 24, 2010 at 3:51 am

          yeah this is true. And in the books we dont get to see what goes on when Sookie isnt around. So i guess its expected that some things will be darker. And AB likes dark, as you can tell from his past work. So i expect we will be vindicated when we see what Bills up to.

      • 151 Jo
        May 24, 2010 at 3:51 am

        MoreEric with all respect, CH has not sold his characters only his right to make a TV series with them, but they still belong to CH and as SVB said in another post, the final destination of these characters belongs and will always belong to her. As for AB win an Oscar is no great merit to have seen me win so bad movie, American Beauty is a very boring movie, but Six Feet Under is one of the best shows and one of the best finals I’ve ever seen and really deserved all their awards.
        I just think that we should not put anyone on a pedestal because of it, neither AB nor CH and nobody. True Blood TV series is a pop and I’m sure will do a lot of success this season, but does not mean it will be proof of mistakes and poor execution.

        • 152 MoreEric
          May 24, 2010 at 4:20 am

          Perhaps I am wrong, I will check but it is my understanding that she did sell all the rights to Allan Ball and she has no say so at all in how he chooses to portray them in TB. She can continue to write her books and he can do anything he wants with them in True Blood.

          I personally thought American Beauty was brilliant, have little to no respect for C’s writing skills which is going to do nothing but further alienate me from people here.

          There are many people who refuse to let go of the Romance Novel Eric from the books who roars with laughter, waggles his eyebrows and shows up at Halloween parties dressed as a Viking.

          That is not Alexanders or AB’s Eric. He is deadly, wears his sexuality like a lethal weapon and makes no apologies for his Alpha Male status. He is going to do whatever it takes to get what he wants … period. He is not a sweet romantic Viking and I understand that many people are disappointed in that.

          I find the show incredible, outstanding in its execution and one of the best shows ever to air for its courage to take on so many controversial issues It is my hope that there is room here for both views.

          If not, understandable and … no problem. I’m looking for a supportive environment that is interesting in discussing the issues of the show. I find it unfulling to waste time watching people tear their hair out in anger and grief because they are so bitterly disappointment that Alan Ball is “destroying” CHs Eric or “story” since I believe that best thing to ever happen to her was Alan Ball … lol.

          With that said, I’m off to bed and will check back tomorrow.
          Thanks for the discussion.

          • 153 Kathy
            May 24, 2010 at 5:03 am

            We’ll just have to agree to disagree. I love Charlaine’s writing. Is she Tolstoy? No, but she’s engaging and has created in, my mind, enjoyable stories and very full characters whom I love.

            I wouldn’t be watching the show if I hadn’t read the books, so I guess that’s definitely where we differ. I liken what AB is doing to what Neil Jordon did to “Interview with the Vampire.” Tom Cruise was no where near Lestat so far from him to be laughable and the major story change made in the film ruined what the whole book was about.

            I don’t consider the SVM books romance books, I consider them mysteries, and it’s frustrating to me that the series seems to have brought out the “teams” by making the Bill and Eric characters so black and white. I worry that Charlaine has now been influenced by this and will continue dragging out the “love” story to the detriment of good solid stories.

            At any rate, I love book Eric, I think he’s just as blood thirsty and sexy as Alex portrays him, only he’s got as sense of humor, which to me makes sense if you’ve lived 1000 years. He can laugh at himself, as well, and for me it makes him a more fulfilled character than the one Alex portrays. One can stare unblinkingly like a lion only so much and the novelty is gone. It becomes one note. So, I will continue to complain about what AB has done to the characters. He’s totally ruined Bill for me. A character I actually like in the books and he’s done a pretty good job at ruining Sookie for me too.

            • 154 A Northern Soul
              May 24, 2010 at 2:08 pm

              I feel the same way about the books. CH may not win the Pulitzer, but
              her writing is engaging and humorous and I LOL’d so many times while
              reading her novels.

              As for BEEEHL…I like TB Bill much better than book Bill, who I find to
              be a complete and utter bore, could never get into him. TBB really had
              his moments in season 1 and I think Stephen Moyer is a fabulous actor and really does
              does justice to the character. Can’t wait to see him portrayal of St.
              Bill’s fall from grace.

              I absolutely adore both Erics, though BE is my fave. I agree, I’d like to see more of the humor in TBE, though I do think we see flashes of it from time to time.
              Doesn’t really bother me what AB has done to TBE, and I think we’ll see
              a more complex character (humor, vulnurabilities and all) as the series

          • 155 Feather
            May 24, 2010 at 5:09 am

            well put.

            i enjoyed the clip ๐Ÿ™‚

          • May 24, 2010 at 5:11 am

            MoreEric – there is certainly room here for all views.

            I seem to recall you mentioned a few days ago that you’ve never read the books. That’s fine, but please understand that if you’re going to slag them off – especially never having read them – there are alot of passionate book lovers here from whom that will raise a reaction.

            There are ways to get your point across without getting people’s backs up…is all I’m saying.

          • 157 pennydreadful
            May 24, 2010 at 5:24 am

            If you’re looking for intelligent discussion…look no further than sookieverse’s blog (Ancient Pythoness and True Blood Underground are also excellent.) Since discovering this site two weeks ago, I look forward to reading both the posts and the comments because I know I’ll find something thought provoking. If things become a little heated at times, it’s only because fans have emotionally invested in the compelling characters within SVM/TB. Sometimes I have to remind myself it’s just television show when I find myself screaming, “For the love of all that’s holy…grow a spine, Sookie!” I think one’s preference for either the show or the books may have to do with how one was introduced to the storyline.

          • 158 Jo
            May 24, 2010 at 1:17 pm

            What I mean is that nobody, nobody owns the absolute truth, if only because AB has won a lot of awards to prove it does not make mistakes, I think this is the beginning is not it? Is not that what modern society has to question? blind faith in all its forms.
            I do not know if you read the books or not, but CH is not a fantastic writer and neither will win the Nobel Prize for literature, his books and his writing is pop, but not because it has less value than any other type of literature, if not AB would not think to adapt to the tv, is not it?
            The Caesar what is Caesar’s.
            I want to correct me, I said the film American Beauty is a bad movie and did not deserve the Oscar, but it is annoying and I did not like, but I’m not intellectual and I’m not one to judge the understanding of so many people more qualified than me.
            But I love Six Feet Under, so I think that AB deserves the benefit of the doubt, but no my blind faith.
            Glad that you can enjoy the show for what it is, unfortunately not me, but I reserve the right to criticize me too since they are selling a product and I am the consumer, if I’ll keep watching then? I do not know, I’ll wait to decide to end this season.
            As for CH sell their characters, whether she would need permission to sell AB to write it not? think anyone really “sell” their rights to their characters, at least not today, just a commitment to adapt his work.
            I just hope you do not see this as a personal attack, but it is my opinion and I express it and hope it continues to express her too, even though I disagree and question.

          • 159 Liz
            May 24, 2010 at 3:37 pm

            i think its been said already, but here’s my take, this is a great place to share opinions, and ideas, without fear of personal attacks. Sure you might open up a passionate discussion, but none of the ladies here have ever belittled, or attacked me here for my sometimes crazy fangirlish ideas or theories, which cant be said about other sites i have visited. I think if you are use to being on defense from visiting other sites, its only natural to be suspicious. We seem to get very few trolls even.
            I for one have enjoyed your posts, and find you friggin hilarious, so i hope you decide to come back. Im a definite bookie, and although i hate that such great Eric moments were given to Beeeell in TB, i see alot of BE in TBE, and vise versa. AS has read the books, and i think he is doing an amazing job with the material given to him, except, well, i’d really like it if he grew his hair out

    • May 24, 2010 at 3:40 am

      Me too Patty.

      I’m pissed beyond words at this whole thing.

      The whole vibe I got from him during this scene was just sleaze. Yeah, sure he was all “I want you”….WHILE HE’S PLAYING BONDAGE GAMES WITH SOME SKANK – WHO IS RIGHT THERE WATCHING ALL OF THIS – IN HIS FILTHY BASEMENT.

      I’m sorry, I’m past trying to justify this crap anymore. This is WRONG.

      There’s an epic rant brewing, you know it.

      • 161 Jo
        May 24, 2010 at 3:57 am

        SVB you’re not alone with that I agree with you.
        He was kind of you know … ironic, but no real sense of humor, I do not expect much from Sookie, but Eric, maybe after I go to sleep and rest a while I see differently but for now I did not like.

      • 162 Serena
        May 24, 2010 at 3:57 am

        I wonder if CH is rolling over in her grave right now, and I do mean grave, I think this may have killed her.

        Now it feels like Eric is sex addict, and maybe he always was, but it never felt this unhealthy. He does seem like a sex-crazed loon, telling Sookie that. The whole scene is just, its so,.. unnecessary.

        And I can’t get the dirty basement out of my head either.

        • 163 LLE
          May 24, 2010 at 2:16 pm

          I don’t think CH will mind because in the book Eric was a sex addict. When I was reading the book I thought of Eric as vampire Jason but Eric has a brain and Jason does not.

          • 164 Serena
            May 24, 2010 at 2:31 pm

            Maybe he is, LLE , but Sookie never saw it, we never saw it. Book Eric is smooth, intuitive, he understands women,… they are making it look like he is all about the sex abilities, and not the substance. Maybe they are trying to emphasize the gravity of his change in character, I just never thought they would go so low.

            I really don’t want to think about this anymore, its too distressing.

            • 165 LLE
              May 24, 2010 at 6:10 pm

              Every time Sookie arrives at his bar someone always go to Eric and let him know that she there and Sookie always waiting at the bar. In book one Sookie seen Eric kissing Ginger. Sookie in the book knew that Eric was a playboy.

              Eric in the books did not care for humans at all and the only person he care about was Sookie.

      • May 24, 2010 at 4:55 am

        You mention that the skank is right there in the basement. She can hear everything that is being said presumably. If she is a spy, she sure has a load of information at this point. Poorly played Eric, poorly played.

        • 167 VikingLover
          May 24, 2010 at 11:51 am

          Well but she really didn’t hear anything that was a secret. Bill is missing/kidnapped and Eric has to find him. I don’t think there’s anything that can be gauged from that other than it’s business as usual in the vamp world. Unless Eric wants to keep it a secret from the SA but it seems like that’s not the case here. QSA does shows up to Fangtasia at some point early in the season it seems so maybe he tells her the truth? I do agree though and I cannot for the life of me understand why Eric would bring a stranger to a secret vamp dungeon.

          • May 24, 2010 at 12:07 pm

            I was thinking more in the way of Eric admitting that Bill has something he wants. Whether she Yv. figures it out that it’s Sookie or not, now she knows Eric has a weakness. Could be useful info to whoever she is spying for. Seriously, I’m just trying to get past the DOD and am grasping at straws.

            • May 24, 2010 at 12:27 pm

              It’s not the kinky sex that bothers me, it’s Eric’s implied attitude towards women. All the reasons being given to me smack of rationalization. I feel like AB is Billifing the character Eric. Just a bad feeling in general. Hope to hell I’m wrong.

              • 170 MASpencer
                May 24, 2010 at 12:45 pm

                I really don’t think it’s going to come off as badly as everyone is thinking. The devil’s in the details and we’re missing a lot of context here.

                I think, worst case scenario, Eric is going to come off as the vampire version of Jason Stackhouse in the sex department– and as much of a tramp as Jason may be, I wouldn’t say I’ve ever witnessed him mistreating a woman or leading her on. He just gives ’em what they want with great skill and enthusiasm.

                Anyway, I can understand if someone sees that as a point against Eric’s character. I just don’t exactly see it that way. For all of Jason’s indiscretion he IS still capable of deep love and loyalty, and the show has indicated as much.

                • May 24, 2010 at 12:54 pm

                  maybe. Thanks for trying MAS.

                • 172 sunnynala
                  May 24, 2010 at 1:27 pm

                  Agreed, totally. As you said in another comment MAS, Sookie crashed HIS party. It’s not like he went out of his way to throw his sex with Yvette (if that is indeed what is going on) in her face.

                  It would be worse, and OOC, if Eric had been shame-faced and covered himself and Yvette to try and coddle Sookie’s widdle feewings. That is Bill’s job. She barged down there instead of waiting until they were ‘decent’ so she can just deal.

                  She’s accusing him of snatching her fiancee so he snarks at her about Bill’s lack of stamina. I might get snippy too if someone falsely accused me of something.

                  As for coming on to Sookie with Yvette tied up behind him, I think it was a little deeper and more serious than a ‘come-on’. He didn’t ask her to joing them or say something like ‘nice tits’. What he said and they way he looked at her struck me as tender and poignant and genuine. It almost looked like he couldn’t help himself.

                  If he’s in the DOD having kinky sex with Yvette it is because that is what Yvette wanted. Full stop. He hasn’t forced her or done anything to her she didn’t want, you can bet on it.

                  • May 24, 2010 at 2:12 pm

                    Sunny, I have to agree to disagree with you on the –Tender, poignant and genuine. To me it was cheap and sleazy considering the surroundings and circumstances. Big girl pants or not, that’s not the kind of declaration one wants to hear in those circumstances. To me it sounds tawdry.

                    • 174 sunnynala
                      May 24, 2010 at 2:43 pm

                      You’re doing the same thing as Sookie and falling for the ‘romantic trappings’. One way Bill has fooled Sookie is by coming on like a hero from a Harlequin Romance. What does it matter, really, where they are when Eric makes such a declaration if it’s genuine and heartfelt?

                      Bill was flat out deceiving her in a beautiful French restaurant while giving her a diamond with the music playing.

                      Which is better? A lie in a beautiful setting or the plain truth in a gutter?

                    • 175 LLE
                      May 24, 2010 at 6:15 pm

                      What AB is doing is Eric is not wearing mask but Bill. Bill is under orders to get close to Sookie. Eric wants Sookie and he letting her to know that. Eric is not pretending that he wants Sookie because you can see it in his face. Bill is a con artist and he not telling her the truth.

                  • May 24, 2010 at 3:22 pm

                    Absolutely, Sunny! You said it perfectly. Unless Yvetta was there against her will, there is nothing sleazy about consensual sex–of any kind–between adults. Why is it sleazy that he is extremely sexual and acts on that? Unless he is raping Yvetta, there is nothing “Bill” about this. He does not belong to Sookie at this point–and at this point she doesn’t want him.

                    And I agree with MAS that we are missing a lot of context here. Either way, I’m feeling pretty good about this season. Oh, I’m sure there will be plenty to be pissed off about, and I’m sure I’ll be yelling long and loud at AB at some points. But for now color me rosy.

                    • 177 Ashley
                      May 24, 2010 at 3:44 pm

                      yeah i agree. I dont see anything wrong with it and im really looking forward to this season.

                    • 178 VikingLover
                      May 24, 2010 at 4:25 pm

                      Thankfully after my initial shock I have definitely come around. I now definitely agree with both Sunny and MAS as well. Thankfully! It took me a second though. lol ๐Ÿ™‚ I understand where the rest of the guys are coming from though because I had the exact same concerns and arguments. Now I feel much better!

                  • 179 A Northern Soul
                    May 24, 2010 at 3:31 pm

                    I agree with you, Sunny, 100%. Also, the way he watched her
                    walk up the stairs…that wasn’t a lacsivious look. At this
                    point Eric’s desire for Sookie is going beyond curiosity
                    and lust,and it’s written all over his face.

                    • 180 Freyja
                      May 24, 2010 at 3:43 pm

                      That look reminded me of the look on his face when the queen asked him if he was in love with Sookie. I think he just cant help himself around her.

                • 181 Osterby
                  May 24, 2010 at 9:26 pm

                  I so agree, MAS

              • May 24, 2010 at 1:17 pm

                Itโ€™s not the kinky sex that bothers me, itโ€™s Ericโ€™s implied attitude towards women. All the reasons being given to me smack of rationalization.

                And I’m still just sitting here gobsmacked that so many of us will jump all over Bill for his misogynistic tendencies – yet when it’s Eric…it can be justified six ways from Sunday.

                • 183 Janofarc
                  May 24, 2010 at 1:22 pm

                  Exactly. We always wonder what makes Bill fans excuse his behaviour and blame his maker, his queen, his lack of years, yet Eric fans are now doing the same thing?

                  Maybe that’s the reaction AB is going for? It can’t have escaped his notice that one group of fans say “I can’t believe you’re excusing that behaviour!” so maybe he’s purposefully creating a scenario where the same group are forced to make the same excuses?

                  • May 24, 2010 at 1:28 pm

                    That’s what it seems like to me. He’s giving Eric the Bill treatment.

                    • May 24, 2010 at 1:39 pm

                      Isn’t anyone else sick of being manipulated? It’s making me loose interest in what is going on. Arrogance on AB”s part maybe has made him overplay his hand. There comes a point where you have to say “enough”. Two seasons of maybe you see it maybe you don’t, or it isn’t what you think it is, who gives a furry rats behind after a while. Rant for the AM.

                    • May 24, 2010 at 1:43 pm

                      Bobsgran: I totally agree. Maybe he thinks that the majority of views only watch it for the sex/blood/nudity, and not story line. Maybe we shouldn’t care about what is deeper. It’s insanity what happens with TB sometimes.

                    • 188 LLE
                      May 24, 2010 at 6:25 pm

                      Not really. Bill is lying to and Sookie does not know that why the reason Bill show up to Bon Temp. Eric is letting Sookie know that he wants her.

                      It does not bother that Eric is sleeping with other women and he is not involved with Sookie. Eric is not Sookie’s boyfriend. Bill is her boyfriend and she is planning on marrying Bill.

                • 189 MASpencer
                  May 24, 2010 at 1:23 pm

                  I just don’t think we know enough to draw any conclusions about it one way or the other yet. From where I stand, this could go in one of two different directions in terms of implied mysogyny right now– and as far as comparisons to Book Bill go, this all boils down to Yvetta’s feedback in the whole situation.

                • 190 Serena
                  May 24, 2010 at 1:26 pm

                  SVB, it hurts to see you tormented by this, the scene bothers me too but I do have a feeling it will get better once we see it. Maybe. I think they put it in for shock value without much regard to Eric’s character, hopefully there was a reason to debase him like this. I think I’m going to pretend this scene doesn’t exist until I see it. DOD, I abjure you!

                  OT, the nesters seem to think all this ‘overexposure’ of E/S so far is because they are hiding the main storyline. LOL. I wish I could be that simple-minded.

                  • 191 Ashley
                    May 24, 2010 at 3:47 pm

                    Yeah but the main storyline will be Bills demise so that really isnt going to go in the nesters favor.

                • 194 MASpencer
                  May 24, 2010 at 1:28 pm

                  Oh, and for what it’s worth, I don’t think that Bill has really done anything awful to Sookie on the show yet. He’s condescending and annoying at times… but whatevs. That’s a personality issue.

                  However, if Bill’s true motives are revealed this season– and I’m fairly certain they WILL be– then it will cast his otherwise decent actions in a whole new light.

                  • 195 MASpencer
                    May 24, 2010 at 1:34 pm

                    Oh, and that’s not to mention killing Uncle Bartlett. But going by that, at least, I don’t think Bill’s got Eric beat in the morality department by a long shot.

                    Again, I just can’t see Eric going out of his way to make Sookie comfortable in this situation, when she made no effort to respect his privacy and wait for him. She put herself in that situation, and I really don’t think he owes her anything in that respect.

                    For all we know, he asked her to step into his office, where he would meet her in a moment, and she refused, demanding answers NOW.

                    My point: Let’s wait until we see the whole scene.

                    • 196 sunnynala
                      May 24, 2010 at 1:39 pm

                      Again, I just canโ€™t see Eric going out of his way to make Sookie comfortable in this situation, when she made no effort to respect his privacy and wait for him. She put herself in that situation, and I really donโ€™t think he owes her anything in that respect.

                      Exactly. It is Bill’s job to shield her from unpleasantries and treat her like a child. If Sookie wants to barge into an adult situation she needs to put on her big girl panties.

                      Besides, she didn’t look at all disgusted. She sounded impressed with the ‘6 hours’ and in the other clip of the two of them on the porch, which is obviously later, she’s looking at him all starry eyed. Whatever she saw down there didn’t seem to bother her in the least.

                    • May 24, 2010 at 1:43 pm

                      It’s not about who should be shielding her from the nasties, or whether or not Sookie deserves an eyeful for barging in there in the first place.

                      It’s the fact that this whole scenario is completely off, from start to finish.

                      I just need to step away for a while I think.

                    • 198 MASpencer
                      May 24, 2010 at 1:46 pm

                      [If Sookie wants to barge into an adult situation she needs to put on her big girl panties.]

                      Oh LOL, Sunny. THIS.

                    • 199 Serena
                      May 24, 2010 at 1:57 pm

                      MAS, what scene would that be? lol. (abjured, I tell you, abjured!). lalalalaala.

                      Another thing, like the splicing of the Lou Pine’s scenes in the second promo, these clips are being carefully edited to manipulate our understanding of them. The finished results could be much different.

                    • 200 sunnynala
                      May 24, 2010 at 1:57 pm

                      Well, as you said in another comment MAS, she DID deal quite well with the situation.

                      Bill would have thrown a bag over her head to shield her virgin eyes and rushed her out of there.

                      Eric assumed she is an adult and treated her like one. Instead of coddling her he treated her as an equal by giving as good as he got. To me, that is the opposite of misogyny.

                      To me, the ‘come-on’ was not a cheap line but a genuine statement of his feelings.

                      I’m not sure what people expected Eric to do in that situation?

                      And I am not making excuses because I do not see anything to excuse.

                    • 201 MASpencer
                      May 24, 2010 at 2:10 pm

                      Sunny, I have to agree with you here– and think this scene offers a good opportunity to discuss the different implications presented by consensual bondage play and rape.

                      It is a misnomer to assume that anyone who is interested in sub-dom activities either likes raping or being raped. A rape FANTASY is fine, and perfectly normal… but a RAPE is NOT fine OR normal. EVER.

                      If I may return to some of the conversations in the past that we’ve had about talking the talk and walking the walk with respect to Eric and Bill: Eric may LOOK like the “bad guy” from a superficial standpoint, and based on the circumstances that we see him in. Just like when he made the comment about “willing” partners to the blood hooker– but then proceeded to politely send her off with a GIANT tip and a good reference– we may draw conclusions about his time with Yvetta in the “torture chamber.” But this scene will inevitably be juxtaposed with Eric offering a great deal of (apparently mindblowing) oral sex– which is hardly the trademark of a pathological sadist.

                      Bill, on the other hand, APPEARS to be sweet, loving, and loyal– he talks the talk. But under the surface, i think we will see a much different truth about him– and his actions over the course of this season are bound to give him away. Just like Eric’s actions underscore the deceptiveness of his “bad boy” image.

                      Anyway, I don’t think the above observations are rationalization. I think it’s the obvious comparison that the show is asking us as viewers to make– one that the writers have set up by juxtaposing the two male leads in the manner that they have.

                    • 202 MASpencer
                      May 24, 2010 at 2:21 pm

                      And if I may extend this illustration to a larger metaphor…

                      I think that Ball is making a statement about hypocrisy, and one that specifically applies to the fight for GLBT rights– and even more specifically, the right to marry.

                      On the one hand, you have supposedly God-fearing moral Christian folk who proceed to violate the very family values they defend on a regular basis by beating their wives, cheating, and sublimating their own urges to disastrous and hypocritical ends.

                      On the other hand you have the so-called “perverse” out and proud gay community– who are able to maintain rock-solid relationships and build gorgeous, loving families who raise gorgeous, loving children– but who are being denied their rights because they’re “sinners.”

                      It’s all kinds of fucked up, and speaks to the superficiality of our moral compass in this country. Moreover, I think that it’s fair to assume which factions Bill and Eric are representing in this allegory, if I am in fact correct in my artistic analysis of True Blood and its themes.

                    • 203 VikingLover
                      May 24, 2010 at 4:41 pm

                      {Eric assumed she is an adult and treated her like one. Instead of coddling her he treated her as an equal by giving as good as he got. To me, that is the opposite of misogyny.

                      To me, the โ€˜come-onโ€™ was not a cheap line but a genuine statement of his feelings.

                      Iโ€™m not sure what people expected Eric to do in that situation?

                      And I am not making excuses because I do not see anything to excuse.}

                      Sunny, I agree with your post. I do differ slightly on the “line” part. I think that yes, it was him being honest and saying I’ll look for Bill even though I want you but I also think it was him kind of “f***cking” with her because she disrepected him as well. She was left speechless and I think that was his intention. She had absolutely no right to barge down to there the way that she did. I’m sure Pam tried to stop her and she disregarded her because she thought she was tough. Well, she got more than she bargained for and Eric had a right to react the way that he did. The real truth is that Sookie had a lot of nerve doing what she did. She had no right. Bill treats Sookie like a child and a paper doll. Eric treated Sookie like an equal and a woman by putting her in her place. I don’t see anything wrong with that. If he had hit her or something to that effect, then yes it would have been different. But that wasn’t the case here. There is a very big difference between Bill and Eric and I don’t think the two can ever be compared because of this DOD scenario.

                      I don’t think he disrespected either woman. Yvetta is definitely a casual fling who doesn’t give a sh***t othe than getting laid. We saw the minisode – she clearly would have slept with both Pam and Eric at the same time. She basically walked in and took her clothes off. Believe me, she had no problem with what Eric said to Sookie. I’m sure Eric wouldn’t have said what he had if the situation had been different.

                  • 204 Ashley
                    May 24, 2010 at 6:38 pm

                    Well he lies a lot. Thats what hes done on the show thats bad, othere than being uber controlling and possessive.

                • 205 Kathy
                  May 24, 2010 at 3:39 pm

                  I honestly don’t see where this is mysoginistic, that’s all. If he were slapping Yvetta around. If he strung her up against her will. That would be one thing. But the sheer fact (and we don’t know the whole scenario) that it appears Sookie busted in on them, like a wild thing, to me, makes completely understandable that he would walk away from Yvetta, naked (cause that’s what he is) and confront her. Should he stop, take Yvetta down, make sure she’s okay, put a robe on her, put some pants on, send her upstairs, then turn around to a woman spitting with fury that he kidnapped her boyfriend? SHE interrupted THEM. AND DIDN’T LEAVE WHEN SHE SAW WHAT SHE WAS INTERRUPTING! Do you think Sookie would have walked quietly upstairs and wait for them to put themselves in order? Sookie’s BEEELLLL has been kidnapped and she’s sure Eric did it! She would NEVER leave.

                  And as to the “come on.” Again, she has accused him of something awful. It isn’t a come on like “let’s the three of us get it on baby.” It’s “I’ll help you even though I don’t want to, baby.”

                  For the first time, IMHO, TB Sookie is acting like Book Sookie. This scene didn’t bother me in the least. The acting did.

                  • 206 Kathy
                    May 24, 2010 at 3:42 pm

                    Also, I don’t hate Bill for the reasons everyone else does. I just hate that he’s whiney and controlling. BUT nothing in this scene is like Bill throwing Jessica across a room, screaming at Sookie, lying to Sookie and generally making her feel stupid and helpless.

                    • May 24, 2010 at 11:36 pm

                      That is why i feel that the BSS isn’t what it seemed. Everything was OOC for everyone there, especially Bill’s behavior and reaction to what he saw. All you need to do is look at his past actions. Past behaviors denote future behavior. He reaction to Sookie taking Jessica back home is only a small part of his reaction towards Jessica and Hoyt’s.. As her maker he should have been able to feel her lust, but not blood lust. He would have known, if he actually gave a damn about his duty as a maker, his child and NOT getting it on with Sookie, that Hoyt’s was in no danger. His reaction to Lorena is even more sever, and he was only being held against his will. Sookie was sucking on another guys chest, one that he knew for certain (via Eric’s behavior towards Sookie) wanted his women in some form (at this point i just see it as lust… moving to more maybe in the church). His calm and stable reaction doesn’t fit with what we have seen. JMO

                  • 208 L
                    May 24, 2010 at 7:12 pm

                    Yeah, I agree with you.

              • May 24, 2010 at 1:24 pm

                I don’t think Eric has had Yvetta in that position for 6 hours, but the implication is that they have been playing down there that time, and him without a hair out of place suggests that he has kept her restrained. I just don’t like what that says about him. I don’t like the implication that the only reason Eric looked bored the night that Sookie met him was because there wasn’t a Fangbanger up to his standards he could play with all night while Pam ran his business. I don’t care if Yvetta likes to do it for an audience and Sookie barged in. Letting Pam leave Sookie down there was so unEric. He always treats Sookie better than she deserves, so to imagine that he was standing there with hid hips thrust out and nude with Yvetta all over him is beyond the pale.

                I think he must have been wearing pants, and Yvetta must have been in her lingerie.

                • 210 MASpencer
                  May 24, 2010 at 1:43 pm

                  Maybe Pam led Sookie down there to get back at Eric for “hogging” Yvetta– or because Sookie was pitching a giant hissy fit. To me, both scenarios seem like very distinct possibilities.

                  Anyway, it’s not as if Eric planned to have Sookie come there so he could throw Yvetta (and his GP) in her face. But if she’s going to come down to the basement (despite what MIGHT have been Pam’s forewarning) then she got what she asked for. And yes, I think Eric probably enjoyed watching her squirm, if only to teach her a little lesson about “knocking before you come in.”

                  If Yvetta turns out to be obviously upset or offended by Eric taking a time-out to talk to Sookie, then I will change my tune. But Sookie stood there and had a conversation with him in spite of the scene, too… and I doubt SHE would do that if she didn’t get the impression that all parties were more than fine with it.

                  In fact, they were BOTH probably aiming to make the innocent good girl uncomfortable, and Sookie kept her chin up and stood her ground. Gotta give her credit for that.

                  • May 24, 2010 at 1:58 pm

                    I dont’ doubt anything you say MAS, but a few sharp words in Swedish should have had Pam escorting Sookie to his office to cool her heels while he finished with Yvetta.

                    • 212 MASpencer
                      May 24, 2010 at 2:01 pm

                      Ah, but the cat would have been out of the bag already. And Eric would be betraying some level of embarassment to Sookie in shooing them away. And that doesn’t seem in line with his character at all.

                    • 213 sunnynala
                      May 24, 2010 at 2:06 pm

                      Well, if she insisted upon being escorted down to the DOD, as seems likely since she would figure if Eric had Bill that is where he would keep him prisoner, then why would they deny her the opportunity to see for herself?

                      Eric is obviously not ashamed of what he was doing and why should he be? He’s not dating Sookie and if she insists upon interrupting his private time, again, she can just deal with the consequences. Daddy Bill might think he should shield her from realities but Eric is being shown here to allow Sookie to see HIM, the real ERIC, in all his hardcore glory and she can like it or not, it’s up to her. which is something Bill would never allow–neither the reality of him nor the choice.

                    • May 24, 2010 at 2:15 pm

                      Instead of embarrassment, it could have been played that Eric was ticked at Pam for interrupting him, and she should have been reprimanded. Then he could have made Sookie wait a good long time before he joined her. This was just as crass as Jason forking Randy Sue by the dumpster while carrying on a conversation with Tara. At least Jason was high. Eric has no excuse if that scene was what it appeared.

                    • May 24, 2010 at 2:27 pm

                      I can see how this scene would parallel Sookie having to accept Bill’s vampire nature of Bill. Especially in the books when Bill makes no apologies for killing humans before the Great Revelation. He just puts it out there, and Sookie has to come to terms with it.

                      Of course Eric is not going to hide his sexuality from Sookie, but it’s just stupid for him to use the DOD for sex and crass the way he handled the situation IMO. Eric should be neither of those things.

                    • 216 Dee
                      May 24, 2010 at 5:06 pm

                      I think at that very moment, Sookie, wanted answers right then and there and wouldn’t have gone upstairs and waited for Eric in his office. If that were the case then she would’ve asked for Eric and not gone downstairs and just waited upstairs for him to begin with.

                      I know a lot of people won’t agree but there are other reasons I like this scene. In book 3, Eric, tells Sookie that Bill is missing. He comes to Sookie because he wants her to help find Bill. At first he doesn’t tell her about, Lorena, because he doesn’t want words out of his mouth to hurt her which was sweet. Now if he would’ve stopped there then that would’ve been great but he continued and said that he also didn’t tell her because if she knew the truth then she might not help him find Bill. He also told her that he could torture her to find out what she is hiding.

                      In this scene we see that Sookie tells Eric and Eric says that he will deal with it. So i’m glad there is no manipulation to get Sookie to help and he is NOT doing it to save his ass like in the book but instead simply because it is his duty. Now people can’t judge him that he tries to find Bill only because he can get in trouble or send Sookie to do it for same reason. He is even concerned in this scene about Sookie dealing with Lorena herself and thats why it’s better if he handles it. Shows he is not willing to just throw Sookie into a potentially dangerous situation. Instead of any torture lines, we get a line that says he wants her. So comparing how it happens in the book and in the show, I like the outcome bc of that.

                    • 217 VikingLover
                      May 25, 2010 at 2:50 am

                      Dee, I agree with you 100%.

        • 218 LLE
          May 24, 2010 at 2:09 pm

          If it important information, Eric is going to glamor Yvetta.

      • 219 Ziggy
        May 24, 2010 at 7:11 am

        The idea of Eric using the prisoner’s dungeon as some sort of S&M chamber is pretty gross, but are we even sure that this is the same room as the one Laffy was kept in?

        Couldn’t there just be another underground room under Fangtasia? One which houses extra offices / accommodation / storage / whatever? Sure, it looks dark and dingy like the dungeon, and yeah, even the stairs seem to be in a similar layout, but still – it could easily be a different room entirely!

        At least, that’s what I’m telling myself ๐Ÿ™‚

  40. 220 Dee
    May 24, 2010 at 3:26 am

    Bondage is a pretty normal sex fantasy, it seems like one many people try. Maybe not tied up quite the same but look how popular handcuffs are, or look at the Jason/Dawn scene. We’ve seen many movies and shows where we see someone tied up to a bed for example. I don’t think it’s really taking it to the extreme really.

    • 221 Ashley
      May 24, 2010 at 3:40 am

      Yeah i think so to. A lot of people do it, and Yvetta im sure wanted to so i dont see a problem.

    • 222 MoreEric
      May 24, 2010 at 3:42 am

      After a thousand years who’s to say what one might resort to for stimulation which is why I’m trying not to judge. .

      I don’t think its extreme either … especially for Eric

    • 224 Freyja
      May 24, 2010 at 3:48 am

      And remember in book 2 Eric is talking to Sookie about how many orgies he has gone to, and that little one they were at in LDID was nothing compared to what he has been to. So bondage in the DOD with one woman is probably very innocent for Book Eric or TB Eric. Only thing is that in the books it’s all Sookies POV.

      • 225 L
        May 24, 2010 at 5:17 am

        And the books are told from Sookie’s POV. Of course she wouldn’t know much about Eric’s sex life when it didn’t include her.

  41. 226 Dee
    May 24, 2010 at 3:27 am

    Forgot to mention the Maudette and Jason scene, so we’ve seen this bondage thing on TB before.

    • 227 Liz
      May 24, 2010 at 3:56 am

      i agree, he’s both vamp, and Viking, rape and pillage ring any bells? the guy has a history, hell he’s a part of it. Consider all the horrors he’s seen, just among humans, not even considering the things hes seen in vamp world………..

  42. 228 Dee
    May 24, 2010 at 3:42 am

    ok in the new trailer, who is that running behind Sookie in the woods? it’s daytime and i pause it but can’t see their face. Doesnt look like Alcide hmmm. Also Franklin holds a man while Tara punches him…I think its jason who tackles a man to the floor. Also, what is up with Tara running in that long white gown holding rope

  43. 229 Caitlin
    May 24, 2010 at 3:54 am

    The problem I have with Eric and Yvetta having nasty basement sex is the same problem I have with TB Eric eating people in the basement. Yes we know Eric has seen and done some nasty things in his 2,000 years. He had pretty much given up on humanity and human. UNTIL he met Sookie. That is one of the huge themes in the Sookie series. Eric and Sookie change one another and Eric’s character evolution is fascinating and I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT! And Eric’s character can’t evolve on TB and it will not make any sense if he is interested in Sookie and still doing other people and basically going on with his old tricks. It will come off as insincere and cheap. Ok that is my rant, I’m done ๐Ÿ™‚

    Also how do we know yvetta is tied up down there? I know people talked about seeing a woman’s arm chained up in the corner of the photo from this scene but I don’t see that. Am I missing something? I mean I guess this clip alluded to him having sex for hours. Which also, in the books it doesn’t seem like vampire sex lasts that long. It is described as intense but not very long. just sayin….. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • 230 Ashley
      May 24, 2010 at 3:58 am

      Well Sookie hasnt paid him any attention, so why shouldnt he get involved with other women? Book Eric and TB Eric wouldnt sit there pining away for someone that shows them little interest yet, and who is involved with someone else. So i dont have a problem with that. And in the books, same with Bill. He dated Selah while supposedly in love with Sookie. So i dont have a problem with that part. I dont know i think i saw an arm, but i guess we have to wait and see.

      • 231 A Northern Soul
        May 24, 2010 at 4:02 am

        Also, book Eric really didn’t change until after they spent time together in book 4, and the series isn’t up to that point yet. We’ll have to wait and see.

        • 232 Ashley
          May 24, 2010 at 4:04 am

          Yeah it was only the end of book 3 when we he started to have real feelings for her beyond just lust and curiosity. When he said “i hate having feelings” was the first indication and then book 4 changed him forever.

      • 233 L
        May 24, 2010 at 5:00 am

        Exactly. Eric and Sookie still barely know each other. Everyone needs to take a breather and give it time. Eric and Sookie didn’t magically fall in love when they first met in the books either.

      • May 24, 2010 at 5:18 am

        You can’t see it in this YT clip bc the very start is missing – but in the actual clip which you can view here:


        Yvetta is very clearly hanging from a rack behind him. She is definitely there, they are definitely doing the nasty.

        • 235 Natalie
          May 24, 2010 at 6:29 am

          Thank you! Yup you can see her and though I agree “Eric” in the book is not what AB is turning AS into…this is still HOT!

        • 236 OrientalThorn
          May 24, 2010 at 11:31 am

          While I agree with you for the most part SVB, Eric & Yvetta doing it in the nasty dungeon is very disturbing, but I think there could be more than what we are seeing. And also, as usual, maybe AB wants us to see this side of Eric because when it comes time for him and Sookie, it will be very different from what could be his norm or doing it in the dungeon with the skanks and whores. I do see your point though and it is quite hard to understand why Eric’s character has been changed to this. All I can say is, thank goodness for AS, who makes everything more bearable. He doesn’t have to be totally naked, I just enjoy watching him.

    • 237 Liz
      May 24, 2010 at 3:59 am

      well i think to appreciate his metamorphosis, we need to see where he started off, and it has to be a slow gradual change to be believable

    • 238 Freyja
      May 24, 2010 at 4:02 am

      You know, in the books Eric didn’t start to change his ways until mid of book 3 (as in this season 3), because thats when Sookie has to work and interact with Eric and eventually brakes up with Bill. This is just the first episode on season 3, so give him some change girls ๐Ÿ˜‰ And on the show Sookie hasn’t been as friendly with him as in the books.

      • 239 Ashley
        May 24, 2010 at 4:05 am

        yep exactly. We havnt even gotten into book 3, so we have to be patient.

      • 240 Dee
        May 24, 2010 at 4:08 am

        Exactly, plus let’s not forget in the books how Eric asked Sookie to help find Bill. He scared her a bit and mentioned torturing her to find out what she knows. So I’m just glad we don’t see anything even close to that on the show.

        • 241 VikingLover
          May 24, 2010 at 4:17 am

          Yes Dee, this is very, very true. Even though he was not really going to do it, he did threaten her in order to get a reaction from her. I’m also glad they made that change. I guess AB took that scenario and changed it to DOD sex with another woman and deleted the threat made to Sookie – which if I had to choose, I prefer. As far as TB Eric is concerned, since that’s my only concern because to me the books are canon and separate, I definitely do think that DOD was not necessary when the same things could have been accomplished by him having sex in his office and or in a sex room in Fangtasia. However, after getting over the initial shock of it and after some wonderful posts by the Ladies on this board, I feel much better about it. I’m able to see why they did it and I really do feel that S3 looks promising.

          • 242 Dee
            May 24, 2010 at 4:30 am

            I would’ve preferred for Yvetta and Eric to have been in the office and Eric come out alone so I understand. But I can get over this and move past it if there will be real development between E/S throughout the season.

            • 243 VikingLover
              May 24, 2010 at 4:44 am

              Me too, Dee. See for me, I care about what TB Eric does on TB because I love TB Eric and I care about what Book Eric does because I love Book Eric. For me, one has no bearing on the other. What TB Eric does on screen does not effect what Book Eric does in the books and vice versa. Book Eric is still my beloved Book Eric and TB Eric is still my beloved TB Eric. This is what has allowed me to love both and what has kept me sane. I know that AB’s work is an adaptation and for all intents and purposes, a type of “fan fiction”. Putting that in perspective has allowed me to go along for the ride and love both equally. Anyway, that’s just me. lol I’m definitely not trying to push that on anyone and I respect everyone’s POV for sure. I just wanted to let you guys know what helps to keep me sane. lol ๐Ÿ™‚

        • May 24, 2010 at 5:26 am

          That wasn’t the same.

          That scene in the books – the “workover” scene I call it – was about trying to find out what made her tick.

          He was trying to get a reaction. He had no intention of torturing her.

          He’d slipped into bed with her while she was still asleep for starters. Then when this convo started, he brought out the torture threat. Then not five minutes later he’s holding her hand and telling her how fond of her he is.

          Then he’s whispering in her ear and trying to hit her on her again.

          What we’re seeing on the show is making it very hard to redeem him. I’m not sure I even like him at this point.

          • 246 L
            May 24, 2010 at 5:31 am

            There’s nothing wrong with having kinks. :\

            • May 24, 2010 at 6:01 am

              It’s not about him having kinky sex.

              Aw man. I’m so pissed off and frustrated tonight I think I’ll just sit on this for a while.

              Just let it be known that it’s not what he’s doing. It’s HOW he’s doing it.

              • 248 VikingLover
                May 24, 2010 at 12:37 pm

                SVB, I completely understand how you feel. That’s why I was so devastated when I first realized this was going to happen. I think the best thing is to take time away from it – it really helps. I did that and now for me it’s not so bad. All I can say is wait until you’ve had a chance to watch the entire season. It may not be so bad in that context. Hang in there Hon. **Hugs**

          • May 24, 2010 at 5:35 am

            Yep. If this is the real Eric, it’s a no go for me. The dynamic is that Eric is the honorable one and Bill isn’t. One has the appearance of virtue and the other actually has it. If it’s Sookie’s love is going to change Eric into a decent person, how is he any different than Bill?

            • 250 L
              May 24, 2010 at 5:39 am

              I don’t think Eric was ever considered the “honorable” one and even if he was, I don’t think having kinky sex would change that.

              • May 24, 2010 at 6:07 am

                Sorry, but I don’t understand what you mean that you never considered Eric honorable. You don’t think he always did right by Sookie, or do you think he was putting on an act around her like Bill? You don’t think he was a loyal, honorable sheriff to his queen?

                As for the sex, the issue for me is what kind of person chains up someone they don’t know for 6 hours in a real torture chamber where they have ripped someone from limb to limb. That is not someone who is sexually open to experimentation and novelty. That is someone who has a serious kink who would be satisfied with vanilla sex with Sookie, no matter how much he thought he loved her. That is not something the love of a good fairy changes.

                • May 24, 2010 at 6:13 am

                  I totally agree with you… All you need to do is look at how he treated Ginger. You could have just killed her for witnessing LS death. But instead decided to keep her and just glamour the memories out.

                  And totally behind you on the DOD. It just doesn’t fit what we know about Eric and the difference between him and Bill… Doing what we think we see if a Bill thing IMO… see graveyard sex

                • 253 L
                  May 24, 2010 at 6:14 am

                  No, but he was still a vampire and did things that most humans wouldn’t be capable of. TB vampires are very dark and sexual and that isn’t just limited to Eric. I just don’t see how this is any worse than him keeping Lafayette chained up in the basement.

                  • May 24, 2010 at 6:21 am

                    We’re just going to have to agree to disagree on this, L. Lafayette and Royce were criminals he was dealing with in an official capacity as sheriff. I think AB has shown Eric in a much different light than Lorena and Bill.

                    • 255 Kathy
                      May 24, 2010 at 2:11 pm

                      I totally agree with you on this Renee. What we have seen Eric do, he did in capacity of sheriff (not saying he didn’t do some awful things in 1000 years but so far we haven’t seen him do anything remotely like Bill and Lorena).

                • 256 Freyja
                  May 24, 2010 at 6:16 am

                  I really dont think he has been having sex with that woman for 6 hours with her chained the whole time. He is not a sadist.
                  And I dont think Book Eric or TB Eric have done anything wrong or dishonorable to Sookie except trick her with the blood.

                  • May 24, 2010 at 6:32 am

                    When Sookie says,”Here? Doing THIS for six hours?” I think the implication is that they have been in the dungeon that whole time. If Eric is being straight with Sookie, which I don’t think he is, then yes, he is a sadist, and that is the problem, IMO.

                    • 258 Freyja
                      May 24, 2010 at 6:39 am

                      I saw it as in sayin “Doing THIS for six hours” she was simply talking about having sex for six hours not sex in chains for 6 hrs.

                    • 259 Dee
                      May 24, 2010 at 6:41 am

                      I don’t know if Yvetta would be able to take being chained up for 6 hours. Her arms are overhead, that’d be pretty painful, plus even kinky chained up sex in same position would get boring after 6 hours. I hope he meant fangtasia or that would be a bit much.

                    • 260 Dwimordene
                      May 24, 2010 at 9:16 am

                      He might have said that they were there for six hours… Letting Sookie think whatever she wants… But meaning being at Fangtasia. Having the audition (which seemed very long) and after having time with Ybetta whatever they did, she might have danced for him before or did sex all over Fangtasia before going down… But the audition must have taked some hours of the six, they seemed pretty tired of it.

                    • 261 VikingLover
                      May 24, 2010 at 12:51 pm

                      Renee, he wasn’t really down there with her for 6 hours. Sookie said that and he let he didn’t dispute it as a taunt and a tease.

                    • 262 Kathy
                      May 24, 2010 at 2:13 pm

                      Nah, I took it to mean he’d been at Fangtasia having sex with Yevetta for 6 hours, not necessarily in the DOD having sex for 6 hours.

                • 263 Dee
                  May 24, 2010 at 6:22 am

                  I agree that when it came to vamp politics, Eric, was very honorable.

                  As far as the sex, again I don’t mind the chained up thing but will admit the location is undesireable. Although, even in the books they get turned on after just killing someone and even kiss Sookie right after, we’ve seen this more than once. But I think even Book Eric’s sex life was far from vanilla, so no matter what in comparison to her sex life, she was vanilla. He even mentioned in the books how he had been to orgies before and more than once, and I’m sure he participated. I can only imagine the other things he has done. But I think that sex with a person you love, well there is no comparison so thats why it was best to him like he says. So that’s why sex with Sookie is great even though his other sexual experiences were probably so very different than that he experiences with Sookie.

                  Again, not getting into the DOD sex because it’s a hot topic at the moment so I’m just gonna avoid this for now lol. But just wanted to respond to the whole vanilla sookie thing.

                • May 24, 2010 at 6:25 am

                  As for the sex, the issue for me is what kind of person chains up someone they donโ€™t know for 6 hours in a real torture chamber where they have ripped someone from limb to limb. That is not someone who is sexually open to experimentation and novelty. That is someone who has a serious kink who would (not!?) be satisfied with vanilla sex with Sookie, no matter how much he thought he loved her. That is not something the love of a good fairy changes.

                  You’re right Renee and this is at least partly what is pushing my buttons. I can’t even formulate it into anything coherent right now but it’s just a mistake on so many levels. The other part I’m pissed off about is that not only is Sookie actually seeing it, but even worse, he is trying to hit on Sookie while Yvetta is naked and tied up behind him. IN FULL EARSHOT.

                  It’s not the fact that he’s having kinky sex. Big fucking deal. It’s the way he’s treating BOTH women in this scene.

                  That is not how Eric treats women. I don’t fucking care about all this “he’s a vampire, he’s badass, he’s jaded blah blah blah”. Yes, he is all of that. But he also has a sense of the morality of humans and Eric does not treat women like that. Everything about this scene is the antithesis of this character, at least the book character. This is not Eric. JUST NO. I wish Ball would just give him a different name because right now that’s the only thing these two versions have in common.

                  • May 24, 2010 at 6:36 am

                    I agree completely SVB, which is why I don’t believe that was really what was going on. Time will tell, though, and I may have to eat those words.

                    • May 24, 2010 at 6:46 am

                      If you have to eat these words Renee, and Sunny to eat hers for that matter, then AB and TB has lost me. AB would have screwed up Our beloved characters so much that he should have just changed their names…

                  • May 24, 2010 at 6:42 am

                    And another thing.

                    For so long, we have argued that the basement was purely utilitarian. That it only existed as an extension of Eric’s role as sheriff.

                    Now that we see him use it for play, it kind of throws that whole debate open again.

                    I have never been comfortable with this whole dungeon issue and now I absolutely fucking loathe it.

                  • 268 Janofarc
                    May 24, 2010 at 10:31 am

                    This annoys me too. In the books Sookie is never exposed to Eric’s conquests (with the exception of Ginger in DUD), it’s pretty obvious he’s doing anything with a vagina but it’s kept away from Sookie. Book Eric is discrete which is the opposite of Book Bill (Donor in LDID, Lorena, Selah) and its what sets him apart from Bill.

                    If Sookie HAS walked in on Eric & Yvetta doing the nasty it’s not going to endear her to Eric at all, seeing a dancer chained up in a basement where he keeps prisoners in their own filth isn’t going to make her have fluffy feelings towards him or make her attracted to him.

                  • 269 MASpencer
                    May 24, 2010 at 10:53 am

                    Honestly, that fact is the ONLY thing that bothers me about this scene. But unfortunately, it’s a biggie.

                    I have no problem with kink, or sex dungeons– unless Yvetta is hanging from the ceiling with hooks in her skin, I don’t see a deal-breaking amount of fetishism there. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t even Eric’s idea… and if, like Jason Stackhouse, Yvetta mentioned her kink and he just happily indulged her, world-class sex abilities that he has.

                    HOWEVER… you don’t hit on another woman while the girl you’re CURRENTLY banging is right behind you. It’s disrespectful and slimy.

                    Of course, maybe– given the circumstances– we won’t see it as such a douche move in context. I mean, Yvetta clearly doesn’t have much in the way of modesty (I wouldn’t be surprised if she LIKED that someone was watching)– and I’d say it’s pretty understood that what they’re engaging in is as casual as it gets, thus I don’t see her being upset with him for expressing an interest in Sookie while she’s there.

                    As for SOOKIE, well… you know Pam probably warned her about going into that basement. Who does she think she is just busting down there whenever she feels like it, anyway? Maybe Eric was being “disrespectful” to her by not covering himself or Yvetta up when she came down– but she was disrespectful to HIM for barging in in the first place. I could see him thinking– “well, you wanted to come down here so badly, you deal with the consequences.”

                    Anyway, they’re BOTH pushing eachother’s buttons right now in a defiant and purposeful way… the dynamic is a departure from the one in the books, but it’s no less sexy in my opinion. So I think I can live with it, and will suspend my final judgment on the matter until I’m able to see the full scene in context.

                    I will add, though, that if Yvetta IS a spy like we predicted, Renee is totally right. Eric is a dumbass. But it only further alligns the parallels between his character and Jason’s… and like James Bond, looks like Eric’s Achille’s heel is is johnson. LOL.


                    • May 24, 2010 at 11:16 am

                      itโ€™s pretty understood that what theyโ€™re engaging in is as casual as it gets, thus I donโ€™t see her being upset with him for expressing an interest in Sookie while sheโ€™s there.

                      Presumably Yvetta knows what she’s getting into here, and her expectations are in line with that. Aside from the fact that TB Eric is starting to develop a clear case of small penis syndrome, it’s very hard for me to really nail down what is making me so uncomfortable. Perhaps a combination of things starting to add up. Everything that is going on in this scene, his calling in Lorena in Dallas, the bullet sucking…it’s all starting to paint a picture of someone who doesn’t really believe in their own power to attract what they want.

                      Oh I know BE is certainly capable of his fair share of manipulative behaviour – but TB Eric is starting to smell a bit desperate.

                    • 271 MASpencer
                      May 24, 2010 at 11:17 am

                      Ahem, typos: It looks like Eric’s Achilles’ heel is his johnson.

                      To add, it would be unfortunate if Eric was really that gullible… but as I mentioned a while back, everyone else in this show has been deceived by their sexual partner. It would only make sense that this season marks Eric’s turn.

                    • 272 MASpencer
                      May 24, 2010 at 11:22 am

                      {Oh I know BE is certainly capable of his fair share of manipulative behaviour โ€“ but TB Eric is starting to smell a bit desperate.}

                      I won’t argue with that, SVB. That’s why I hated him bringing in Lorena so much last season. I suppose his motives were thrown into question after he made the statement he did to Sookie about Bill mucking up rescue plans by killing everyone in sight.

                      But my first reaction was BEYOND negative. So I know what you mean.

                      That said, I don’t place this basement scene in Selah Pumfrey territory just yet. He didn’t parade Yvetta in front of Sookie’s face– Sookie crashed HIS little party. He’s not covering himself up because he has nothing to hide– and because he probably LIKES seeing Sookie squirm.

                    • 273 MASpencer
                      May 24, 2010 at 12:35 pm

                      Also, I’m really interested in seeing all of the dirty details of this scene. It won’t be the first time we get an explicit look at kinky vampire sex– because we saw the video of Liam getting all nast with Maudette in season 1.

                      I find BDSM as hawt as the next freak, but I’ll be the first to say that the sex tape Maudette showed Jason was frightening and unsettling. As in totally NOT sexy.

                      I’m betting that we’ll see enough of Eric and Yvetta’s playtime to notice any differences between the two vampires’ sexual tactics. And I think (or rather, hope) the vibe will be TOTALLY different.

                      Case in point: We’ve already observed that Eric appears to be going downtown with Yvetta on his desktop. Hardcore sadists wouldn’t bother with such niceties. It defeats the purpose.

                      I think it will be clear that Yvetta WANTED to be tied up… and Eric obliged, furnishing her with an unforgettable evening in the process. He’s not being portrayed as some power-tripping mysogynist with a boner for torture… and I think that the difference between Eric and vampire like Liam will be laid out very clearly with the help of this scene.

                      Call me Pollyanna. LOL.

                    • 274 Kathy
                      May 24, 2010 at 3:06 pm

                      Again SVB, I agree with you. TB Eric clearly doesn’t have the confidence that BE has.

                    • 275 Ashley
                      May 24, 2010 at 4:43 pm

                      Yvetta has sex with ERic right after she meets him so she clearly is fine with casual sex and isnt expecting anything, as you said. Men lose interest if given something so easily so i doubt Yvetta expects anything, or she shouldnt at least.
                      And from what i saw, Eric wasnt hitting on Sookie. He knows that she wont respond to him. He was just stating that he wants what is Bills. That simple. He wasnt expecting her to respond to him, so i didnt see it as a come on. he knows she loves Bill. Maybe he wanted to see her reaction. But he wasnt trying to get into her pants.

                  • 276 Kathy
                    May 24, 2010 at 2:27 pm

                    Oh yes. I SO wish he had changed the name of the character. I wish he had left the character out all together. I WISH he had changed the names of ALL the characters (like he did with Maryann) and just written his own supernatural series. And I guess that is my main gripe and what annoys me about the TB appologists who make fun of the bookies. Fine! Take the spirit of the books, but leave CH’s beloved characters out of it! Have fun with the raping and chainsawing people apart (which we haven’t talked about yet, but THAT disgusts me more than anything else so far and I’m praying it’s at Franklin’s suggestion and not Pam’s)but leave the stories and characters I love alone!

                    • May 24, 2010 at 3:37 pm

                      As a bookie I understand where you’re coming from, and even though TB introduced me to the books in the first place, if it should happen I get so pissed off with the show that I wish it never happened, I will opt for a suggestion Sookie once made towards Bud Dearborn: “Luckily for you, no one is forcing you to watch.”

                    • 278 Kathy
                      May 25, 2010 at 12:15 pm

                      When I saw the promo for the show, in August I guess, I went out and bought the first book, then went out and bought all the other ones. By the time the show aired I had finished the series and was so excited for the show to premiere. I gave the first book to 4 of my friends who all went out and bought the set immediately after finishing it. And they, I know have turned their friends on to the books. Once series one ended I had other friends who went out and bought all the books.

                      I can’t imagine that the percentage of readers vs. viewers hasn’t changed. And I also think AB’s misguided assumption is the reason he was so surprised the Maryann story was very close to being universally hated.

                  • 279 adriennelynn
                    May 24, 2010 at 9:23 pm

                    I’m fairly new to this blog, but I love your point of view. I absolutely love CH books, and am saddened by the TB adaptation of them. The only way I’ve been able to handle watching TB is to think of it as a totally different story. CH has said as much on her website. Also, last season I watched an interview with Stephen Moyer where he stated that a huge majority of the TB viewers have never read the books. AB probably doesn’t care if he pleases the CH book readers. And, I could be really wrong, but I’d guess that most CH book readers would not likely be the kind of people who’d watch HBO TB to begin with-different demographics. I normally do not watch HBO, and was only drawn to TB because of the books. Anyway, I love your blog, and will hang with TB for another season, maybe.

                    • 280 sunnynala
                      May 24, 2010 at 9:39 pm

                      I know I might get flak for this but Stephen Moyer is full of shit.

                      He said that because he knows in the books ASkars character is the hero and SM doesn’t want to know from losing his seat on the TB pedestal.

                      He has also said in that same interview that Eric is ‘the immoral one’ (*snort*) and recently in the season 2 resurrected vid that “he” meaning Bill (and not Sam)had “saved the town” from the maenad. He told some ladies from The Vault that they “would not fucking believe what ‘they’ are doing TO my character this season”.

                      IOW, SM has bought into the flimsy ‘hero’ designation Bill has been allowed to wear for the last two seasons.

                    • 281 AstralRomance
                      May 25, 2010 at 12:25 am

                      That comment that Stephen Moyer made about how only 5% of the TB audience will ever read the books really annoyed me. I’m sure that Stephen believed that fact when he said it but I really don’t think that it is true now. I think HBO really underestimated their audience I have read numerous comments on many websites of fans of the show who went out and bought all of the books after first seeing the show and now they are expecting certain points and major plots to be included in the show and I think they will be very disappointed if what they have enjoyed in print doesn’t happen on screen.

                      I would really love to know how much an increase in sales the books have had since the show first aired I’d say the improvement is huge. I have seen ads for the books in mainstream publications and in supermarkets in my Country and their is no way without the success of the show that these books would be advertised and be on sale in such huge numbers without the show and I wouldn’t have bought the first one without first seeing True Blood.

                    • 282 Kathy
                      May 25, 2010 at 1:39 am

                      The “book readers” excuse is my favorite lame LAME excuse. Alan claims the reason he’s veering from the books is because if he didn’t there would be no surprises. HOWEVER, if only, what do they say? 30% of the audience will have ever read the books, wouldn’t 60% of the audience be surprised at the stories from the books? LAME! And every time I hear it I see red! Arruugghh!

                    • 283 Kathy
                      May 25, 2010 at 1:40 am

                      Oh right! It’s 5% which makes those excuses ever WORSE!!

                    • 284 Ashley
                      May 25, 2010 at 1:42 am

                      SM did say that abou the viewers and the books but he said that like a year ago i believe. And book readers have gone up significantly since then, and its because of the show. So that statement is no longer accurate.

                    • May 25, 2010 at 4:30 am

                      Aha. Everyone I introduced to the show who liked it wanted to read the books afterwards. One of my friends doesn’t even speak English that well and she borrowed them from me anyhow. Of course I can only speak for my little “circle”, but that is my experience.

                    • 286 adriennelynn
                      May 25, 2010 at 4:41 am

                      Because I found TB after I’d read the books, I never considered how many others discovered the books after seeing TB! I wonder what these readers think about the books after first seeing TB? You all have great insights! I watch TB with a friend who hasn’t read the books, and pretty much stopped telling her when the show has deviated from the books.

    • 287 VikingLover
      May 24, 2010 at 4:04 am

      I think there will be an evolution in Eric’s and Sookie’s characters. The reason why we haven’t seen it yet is because they haven’t had much contact. S3 is the first time they will work together and get to know eachother. I think we will start to see changes in Eric’s character and in their relationship starting now.

      • 288 Kathy
        May 24, 2010 at 4:41 am

        Also, in the books Eric has saved her skin several times before Book 3, and remember that fantastic exchange between the two of them, when she was scratched by the maenad, which of course couldn’t be in the show because AB changed the damn thing all around.

        I’m not bothered by Sookie’s reaction in the clip, as why would she show Eric that any of that bothered her? Show him weakness? Nah, never. I do agree, that although he is being ironic, there is no sense of humor about him and THAT’s what bothers me the most. He just seems emotionless and grim. PLUS the freakin’ hair ARRRRUUUUUGGGHGHHHHHH! I don’t like TB Eric, I just don’t like him!

        • 289 L
          May 24, 2010 at 5:15 am

          Why do you keep watching then? :\

          • 290 Kathy
            May 24, 2010 at 5:28 am

            Actually, I’m only giving it a few episodes this season, if it doesn’t get better I am done. I loved the fist season. But except for episodes 8 & 9 I thought last season was dreadful and the last 3 episodes with the exception of the hilarious 3 Stooges acting out “The God Who Comes” unwatchable. It was disappointing because I threw themed dinner/viewing parties all last season and after Episode 9 we were all pretty much over it. Not having the parties this season at all.

            • May 24, 2010 at 3:49 pm

              I agree. I hated the longitude of the Maryann storyline so much, and it seemed to me that almost nothing actually happened in the last three episodes. Also, if the ending actually played out the way we were shown and AB is not a genius after all… WTH.

              • May 24, 2010 at 11:45 pm

                Totally agree: If what we saw was real, and Sunny isn’t drinking the right Kool-aid right along with us then AB is really not what we think he is. It would be sad to think it. I really hope that one of the final Minisode will explain it better, because i can’t see the average viewer being able to reconcile what the saw LAST year with what is happening now. We are different tot he regular viewer, as we actually all give a damn about what we watch… and are not happy being screwed over. I know a few people have said (Bobsgran for one i can remember) that being strung along for this long is getting tiresome… i just hope we were messed with in the last season… AB needs to reveal himself ๐Ÿ™‚ and please not in the naked him way (sorry man)

                • May 25, 2010 at 4:33 am

                  “and please not in the naked him way” LOL!

                  *nods heavily* The revelations have to come soon. If it goes on like this for a few more seasons, I am not dead, but gone :p

            • 294 ellemoe
              May 24, 2010 at 7:08 pm

              Kathy, I know exactly how you feel. I’m not excited about Season 3 at all. I loved the first season (it’s my favorite) and some of Season 2. It started off great then went downhill quickly, only to be somewhat redeemed with Godric coming into the show. I’m not getting my hopes up for S3 but I’ll watch it because I’m curious. If it sucks, it sucks and I’ll have learned my lesson. But I’m hoping it doesn’t suck because I’ll be terribly disappointed. The show is what got me into the books and if I don’t have the show to look forward to…

        • 295 KC
          May 24, 2010 at 6:19 am

          I still mourn the loss of the maenad apology. It’s the first time that we see Eric interested in what Sookie wants and making an effort to give it to her. What I like about the clip is Eric’s apparent wistfulness in admitting that he wants what is Bill’s and we also see the sense of duty that is central to his character IMO.

          • 296 adriennelynn
            May 25, 2010 at 1:45 pm

            I love Eric’s LDID maenad apology:
            “Angelic Sookie, vision of love and beauty, I am prostrate that the wicked evil maenad violated your smooth and voluptuous body, in an attempt to deliver a message to me.”
            There hasn’t been much of THIS Eric in TB.

        • May 24, 2010 at 11:49 pm

          okay, i have an “eric replacement” for you. well, it’s a friend of mine that kind of looks like the character is described, anyway. long blond hair, blue eyes, rather ripped, and he is a giant. 6 foot 5 i believe.
          so, when you get upset over “the hair” just think of him, lol:

          • May 24, 2010 at 11:57 pm

            Sweet. I think that’s the best ‘Eric hair’ I’ve seen.

            • May 25, 2010 at 12:41 am

              lol, i’ll pass along the compliment. i know the hair is for reals, he’s had it for as long as i’ve known him, which is 5 years i think. not too keen on the facial hair though, but that’s just me ๐Ÿ˜‰

              he is an actor, but not like, a stage and screen kinda guy. he’s a cirque performer.

          • 301 pennydreadful
            May 25, 2010 at 12:35 am

            Your friend is hotter than Georgia asphalt in mid August. If they ever adapt SVM into films, he could totally carry the role of Eric ๐Ÿ™‚

          • 303 Kathy
            May 25, 2010 at 1:56 am

            Yep. That’s exactly how I see Eric.

            • May 25, 2010 at 3:42 am

              kathy, whenever i read your replies here re: the hair wtfery, i automatically think of Jared, lol, so I figured i would share ๐Ÿ™‚

          • May 25, 2010 at 4:40 am

            Your friend has the decidedly manly look I pictured for Eric (Of course I know ASkars looks like a man, too, but he has something “soft” about his face). I still don’t understand what was so hard about acquiring a non-roadkill wig, but maybe I’m just sad because I vastly prefer longer/long to short hair.

            Though I’d already be happy if they stopped slicking back his hair. To me, he looked so much nicer in the dream sequence with Sookie.

            • May 25, 2010 at 5:04 am

              very much agreed on the slicked back hair thing, it’s too shiney :/ and not touchable, lol.

            • 309 Kathy
              May 25, 2010 at 12:18 pm

              Amen Melody. ITA with everything you said. I directed a friend to the “secret” clip and yesterday she emailed me and said the clip is great but you’re right about the hair. And she doesn’t have the long-hair fetish I have.

              • May 26, 2010 at 8:39 pm

                It’s just not Wild Viking Hair ๐Ÿ˜ฆ
                The first time we saw him with the new cut it wasn’t even as bad as later on. At least he had a sidepart then and not that mafia thing going on.

      • 311 Caitlin
        May 24, 2010 at 6:18 am

        they worked together in season 2. or they were supposed to, if the stupid maryann plot hadn’t taken over the entire season. It is my opinion that in book 3 eric reveals to himself and sookie that he has feelings for her, in the “i dont like having feelings” line, and they hook up a bit after he gives her blood. but i think he actually starts to have feelings and become interested in her in book 2, going to dallas, the orgy, pink spandex! it really is the progression and THE HUMOR between eric and sookie that I wish TB had.

        VikingLover I totally appreciate what you wrote previously, you can seperate TB Eric from Book Eric, and fortunately/unfortunately I think the characters/plots are so different to me now that I can separate them in my mind now too and I try to enjoy TB on its own for what it is.

        And I don’t mean to complain…I would just love to see book eric’s character on screen.

        • 313 VikingLover
          May 24, 2010 at 4:57 pm

          {And I donโ€™t mean to complainโ€ฆI would just love to see book ericโ€™s character on screen.}

          Nah, you’re not coming off as complaining at all Hon. ๐Ÿ™‚ I completely understand how you feel. However, once you separate the characters (if you can get to a place like that it is very freeing believe me!), you can appreciate them both. Book Eric is there on screen he’s just not as evolved yet as the one you are used to from the books. In the books he came to us “complete” in some ways. On the show, we are going to make that journey with him. Anyhooo, once you stop looking at him through the “book lens” you stop expecting certain things from him and you appreciate who he is on the show and you see that he is not a villian or a bad guy as they are “pretending” to portray.

          • May 24, 2010 at 5:07 pm

            Son of a b**ch! The penny just dropped. I thought I was being objective and separating BE from TBE, and I guess I wasn’t. Thanks VL. I feel stupid but much better.

            • May 24, 2010 at 5:23 pm

              sorry for the cussing.

            • 316 Dee
              May 24, 2010 at 5:29 pm

              I also think that if you compare Book Eric that we see throughout the entire series and now up to book 10 to this scene then yes some will be disappointed without a doubt. But if you just compare this scene to the scene in book 3 where they talk about bill being kidnapped then I think it would make it easier. I am just comparing those two scenes, Book version and show version(what we’ve seen in this scene only) besides the Yvetta thing, I like TBE’s reaction to bill missing and his reasons for finding Bill and also trying to keep sookie out of getting involved at first.

              • May 24, 2010 at 5:43 pm

                Absolutely right Dee. I can now look forward to S3. I was having a hell of time for what seems like ages.

                • 318 Dee
                  May 24, 2010 at 5:46 pm

                  I know, and I think we all just feel frustrated that in S2 we didn’t see Eric and Sookie have the friendship they did in book 2. Adding that with what we just saw just adds to it. I think after this scene though, all the other Eric and Sookie scenes look very promising. I really think we’ll see some of the changes we’ve been waiting for. I have a feeling most will be happy as we get deeper into the season.

  44. 319 Patty
    May 24, 2010 at 4:02 am

    Please don’t get me wrong. I enjoyed Six Feet Under as well. The first season is excellent.

    I’m very good at keeping the books from the TV show separate. I tend to do that with all movie/book adaptations because no cross over is ever perfect. I’m definitely not saying that CH is a perfect writer, but her characters, as they are written, are full and didn’t need to change to suit TV. I was merely expressing my disappointment that Eric is not developed at all as a character on the TV show.

    In all, now that the show is a success AB has not been keeping to the spirit of the characters in the books. The characters do things on the show that are so far from the spirit of the characters in the books that it’s ridiculous. And also now that the show is a success AB will continue to audience-coddle.

  45. 320 Dee
    May 24, 2010 at 4:16 am

    I’m gonna wait until S3 starts to see Eric’s character develop. Honestly, in the books not like the first 2 you see most of what there is to Eric. At least for me, you start seeing more of a change in book 3. Again, on the show it’s only been about 8 weeks or less so it’s understandable if we haven’t seen a major change in the characters. I think this season we will see a huge change in not just Eric but many of the characters. If they would’ve changed too early then wouldn’t have been too realistic after such a short time. If after this season, i don’t see more of book eric on the show then I’ll be annoyed. This is when I noticed a change in him so I expect to see it on s3.

    • 321 Serena
      May 24, 2010 at 4:35 am

      Yes, Dee I agree. I think maybe when we watch it in full context it could be different, and maybe by the end of the season things will be different between them too. We will see him evolve and maybe the chemistry even one day resembles that of the books, but if I were Sookie, I’d have a hard time forgetting about this filthy basement romp.

      • 322 pennydreadful
        May 24, 2010 at 4:40 am

        I have a feeling that everything we’re going to discover about Bill in season three is going to make filthy basement sex look like mischievous boyish hijinx.

      • 323 Dee
        May 24, 2010 at 5:14 am

        well her face wasn’t that of disgust, infact it was more shock to hearing he’s been having sex for 6 hours, maybe even a hint of being impressed. Also, like i said in another post yesterday, she is not one to judge. Nothing to do with Bill but just Sookie herself, she had graveyard sex and didn’t mind at all. I think if she can be fine with that then she can’t judge him. If she does, I personally would think she is a hypocrite.

        • 324 Ashley
          May 24, 2010 at 4:46 pm

          Yeah Sookie didnt seem shocked or disgusted at all by what she was seeing. And she isnt experienced at all in the sexual dept. Remember her reaction to Laffy’s furry handcuffs? So i dont know the scene may not be what it seems, or maybe Sookie is more open minded than we thought.

      • 325 L
        May 24, 2010 at 5:14 am

        She’s had sex in a graveyard, covered in dirt. I think she knows what vampires are into.

      • 327 Serena
        May 24, 2010 at 5:24 am

        Alright, valid points. lol.

        I think I’m going to back Renee’s theory that they aren’t fornicating down there, I sure hope they aren’t, it would make me feel better if they kept it open ended at least, but.. she knows Lafayette was tortured down there, its the stygma of the place, not just the dirt.

        When we see her doing someone on the kitchen floor next to the fridge where Gran died, maybe then I will let it go. lol.

        • 328 Freyja
          May 24, 2010 at 5:29 am

          In the book 4 she did have sex with Eric in the kitchen on the table if I remember correctly ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • 329 Serena
            May 24, 2010 at 5:39 am

            Yes, but not the floor.. lol.

            • 330 Dee
              May 24, 2010 at 5:49 am

              well if yvetta is tied up and standing then they didn’t have sex on the floor either, they had sex standing lol. Sorry just trying to make light of the situation.

              • 331 Serena
                May 24, 2010 at 5:51 am

                lol. what I should have said was, I’m holding grudge until they have sex in the kitchen. lol.

                • 332 Dee
                  May 24, 2010 at 6:10 am

                  I know I was jk sorry lol. I just see a lot of emotions on here tonight and I understand both sides, nobody is wrong for how they feel. I’m just gonna wait because I just have a feeling I’ll love TB Eric this season so I’m hoping I’m not wrong. I’m annoyed with some things i’ve been seeing but also love other things but also we don’t know everything yet. I hope everyone on here will be happy with Eric this season. Luckily we have just 3 more weeks to start finding out.

    • 333 Lotus
      May 24, 2010 at 10:45 am

      I think this season we will see a huge change in not just Eric but many of the characters. If they wouldโ€™ve changed too early then wouldnโ€™t have been too realistic after such a short time.

      Agreed. That’s why I believe this scene in episode 1 is going to be more important to the story than we initially think. Character evolution is only believable if you set up contrasts to show the change. It’s funny, because in this scene Eric’s fangs are not out but in the bedroom scene with Sookie they are. Hmmmm, guess Yvetta isn’t that much of a turn on for him. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • 334 Lotus
        May 24, 2010 at 4:20 pm

        Oops! I was wrong about the fangs. Just saw a slow-mo of the bedroom scene and he isn’t fanged out there either. ๐Ÿ™‚ Carry on!

  46. 335 pennydreadful
    May 24, 2010 at 4:26 am

    As I watched the promo clip…I wasn’t bothered by the off-screen bondage or the fact that the pervfest was taking place in the DOD. To be sure, the sanitation issues were a little off-putting (but then again, I’m completely skeeved out by the idea of using someone else’s toothbrush.) That being said…I’d do the deed in the filthy basement with the Viking. I guess I’m just a slattern of low moral character ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • 336 Ashley
      May 24, 2010 at 4:29 am

      Yeah i dont get it i mean Yvetta obviously wanted to do it. He wouldnt force her. So whats the problem really. I mean if shes fine with the basement scenario then who are we to judge.

    • 337 Liz
      May 24, 2010 at 4:31 am

      im in the depraved category too, perhaps SVB can post a poll

    • 338 MASpencer
      May 24, 2010 at 10:59 am

      LOL. Put me in that category, too.

      Yes, time for a poll!

  47. 339 GaijinVamp
    May 24, 2010 at 4:27 am

    So many ideas!
    1. I hate his hair. First it was that cheap wig, then the haircut, now BROWN short hair. Crap.
    At least when we got used to S2’s hair, he looked good.

    2. It all belongs, in theory, to CH. But it looks like her lawyers weren’t as good as S Meyer’s lawyers in getting her artistic control. So AB has free rein.

    3. I thought there were sex rooms and cells in the basement, or is that from various fan fictions. Sometimes I get them confused.

    4. This is AB’s fan fiction. We just don’t get feedback from him when we leave reviews. I don’t think he cares.

    There’s just 3 more weeks to go. As much as AB pisses me off with his characterizations, I’m looking forward to the season, and what he will do with it. There’s some FF that aggravates me too, but I still follow it out of curiosity with the author’s imagination.
    Personally, I think they should hire Terri Botta & Ericizmine to write scripts.

  48. 340 Feather
    May 24, 2010 at 5:14 am

    Sweet, I am now even more excited about the new season (as if that was even possible)!

  49. 341 Dee
    May 24, 2010 at 5:21 am

    ok getting past what happens in this scene, I’m trying to guess what happens next. So I’m assuming that Eric does call the Queen to inform her of Bill’s disappearance. Now in the trailers that show ep 2, seems like he has a different outlook. What did he find out from the Queen, for him to tell Sookie that her obsession with Bill is likely to get her killed and not to throw her life away. Then when they find out he might be in Jackson, it’s Sookie who wants to go find him and Eric simply says he can’t go but she shouldn’t go alone either so we know he sends Alcide. Now if Eric doesn’t get involved, is it because the Queen doesn’t want to? and if so then why wouldn’t she? I would think it’d be the opposite.

    • 342 Serena
      May 24, 2010 at 6:24 am

      Here’s my thoughts on this; after the Were at Sookie’s house, he tells her he can’t go (either because of his official capacity as Area 5 Sheriff or because of his thing vs RE or both). But the next nite she shows up at Fangtasia asking for help and for him to go with her. He tells her nothing doing. Then he is sitting on the throne watching Yvetta, where he is caught up in mixed feelings about what to do. QSA shows up, demanding to know why he let something happen to Bill, (I don’t think she can force him to go get Bill, border issues and all that, but she might demand he do something), which makes him decide to help Sookie even if he can’t go. So he sends Alcide.

      I think this next part is crucial to Eric’s character this season, what makes him turn around on that, where he decides to help Sookie. I think they will show how its his choice to help her at his own personal cost,.. he can’t go, he said so himself, but he does. I think this is the best case scenario to building a better Eric. And I feel he goes because he senses she is in danger and/or crying. (The Sookie-dar). lol.

      Which in opposition to Bill who is a slave to his nature, choosing to help Sookie despite the risk involved is the direction Eric should be heading.

      • 343 Dee
        May 24, 2010 at 6:35 am

        Yeah I am very curious if he helps her on his own or if the Queen tells him to. I think no matter what though, he wants to keep her safe so he’ll make sure she is protected. We do know that Eric and the queen will obviously have some type of disagreement since we see her jump on him with fangs out looking pissed. But we also see that while theyre talking, there is one point where he tilts his head and looks a bit surprised by whatever she just said to him. I think the queen would want Bill to be found, especially now that she knows Bill found out about Eric having humans sell V for him. She might be afraid that it will lead back to her.

        I also hope that it is his choice in the end.

      • 344 VikingLover
        May 25, 2010 at 3:12 am

        Okay, my theory is that Eric finds out some information about Bill’s kidnapping – since he’s told Sookie he would contact Lorena. He goes to her house, fights the Were, etc. He tells her he can’t go to Jackson personally (because it’s not his area) but will come up with another game plan to get Bill back. In the meantime QSA shows up and threatens him so he decides to go himself because now his life is on the line. He finds out more info and calls Sookie to Fangtasia or Sookie goes to him to find out how the search is going. He tells her that he is going to Jackson and she then begs to go along. He says no because it’s too dangerous but she convinces him that she can handle it. She will also tell him that he can benefit from her telepathy. He agrees and calls Alcide in to not only escort her but to also keep her safe during the daylight hours.

  50. 345 Serena
    May 24, 2010 at 5:27 am

    Oh can I just say how happy I am that he didn’t ask her to join into their activities? Stupid BL’s, they know how to get our goat. bhhaa.

  51. 346 Jan
    May 24, 2010 at 5:48 am

    Thanks so much ,love it .
    I will take this Eric LOL six hours.
    It hot here in the south but this just made it hotter
    She did look down and check him out .

  52. May 24, 2010 at 7:17 am

    I still don’t get why so many people are so obsessed and disgusted by this basement scene, excuse me. Maybe I’m a pervert, or maybe it’s because I’m European, but I still don’t understand why this scene should make Eric less honorable or more devilish. I don’t find anything sadistic there.
    I liked the dialogue and the banter, I liked how Eric’s eyes fall on Sookie’s cleavage when he says “even if I want what is his”.
    That’s the first episode, remember.
    I like BookEric, yes I do, but it’s TB Eric who gives me the shivers, even with all his flaws. I think while BE embodies a perfect female fantasy, TBE is a real character, capable of cruelty as well as great passion. That’s my opinion, color me stupid. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • May 24, 2010 at 8:53 am

      I still donโ€™t get why so many people are so obsessed and disgusted by this basement scene, excuse me.

      I liked the dialogue and the banter, I liked how Ericโ€™s eyes fall on Sookieโ€™s cleavage when he says โ€œeven if I want what is hisโ€.

      I liked it too.

      And then I remembered that the woman he was actually having sex with was tied up naked behind him, watching him openly hit on Sookie and ogle her tits.

      Both Sookie and Yvetta were objectified in this scene. Yvetta is in a very sexually vulnerable situation and she’s forced to witness this whole exchange as if she isn’t even there. And Sookie, with Eric leering at her, making crass remarks attempting to diminish her current partner, and doing everything in his power to appear sexually intimidating.

      I just don’t find that attractive. I find it the classic behaviour of a man who feels he is sexually inferior. There is nothing alpha about this AT ALL. There is an undercurrent of sexual aggression here that makes me uncomfortable.

      But it’s really making me wonder what it is about Bill behaving like this that we all find so repugnant…and why it’s suddenly so acceptable – even hot – for Eric.

      • 349 Dwimordene
        May 24, 2010 at 9:31 am

        I can’t see the clips from the site, only the one you posted… We don’t see what he has been doing… It might not be what we think, Sookie would have being more disturbed… Maybe I want to think he is just preparing to interrogate Ybetta? If blood should be involved he would take of his clothes so they don’t get dirty…
        Whatever… But until we see the whole thing, meaning the whole episode, we won’t know what made up this scene.

        • May 24, 2010 at 9:51 am

          That’s odd…

          The clip here is missing a few seconds at the beginning – you can tell from the way the dialogue starts so abruptly.

          In those few seconds, you can clearly see that a person is behind Eric with their arms tied above their head. You see some movement.

          Combined w/his dialogue – “I’ve been here, with Yvetta”. I just don’t see how it could be anyone else but I guess we’ve been wrong before.

          The only other possibility I can entertain is that he has her down there for interrogation purposes. But I think there’s some issues with this theory (not the least of which is how Eric would see through Yvetta quickly enough to be interrogating her at the beginning of episode 1 before we’ve even had any storyline from her).

      • May 24, 2010 at 10:04 am

        SVB, sadly I agree with what you say. I cannot find this acceptable. I had misgivings when the first still was shown and the promo simply put a cap on it. It has made me extremely sad and I cannot think how this will be made better. AB has truly destroyed a character I enjoyed and I seriously am considering cancelling HBO and letting them know why. All the rational can’t make it right. Ball will have to do something remarkable to ……oh fuck it. I can’t even think.

      • 352 MASpencer
        May 24, 2010 at 11:09 am

        I’m waiting to see it in context. Yvetta may have already made it clear that she doesn’t mind being watched and wouldn’t mind Sookie joining– in which case, the conversation with Sookie won’t cast Eric in quite as sleazy a light.

        And as for Sookie feeling uncomfortable– she’s already crossed boundaries by barging in on Eric without warning. You do that, and you deserve any discomfort you get– and Eric has no intention of letting her off easy.

        I don’t hold that against him, and would probably do the same thing if it didn’t make me or my partner uncomfortable. As long as it’s not a clear affront to Yvetta, I say good for him.

      • 353 JonnaRose
        May 24, 2010 at 3:11 pm

        “And then I remembered that the woman he was actually having sex with was tied up naked behind him, watching him openly hit on Sookie and ogle her tits.”

        That’s not what I got from watching this. I do think it’s wierd that they’re talking while Yvetta is hust hanging there, but I also think she hasn’t done a single thing to suggest she ISN’T a sex doll. She and Eric just met. Her “audition,” from what we have seen so far, consisted of her immediately getting naked to have sex with her potential new boss. Hard to demand respect from someone if you don’t respect yourself. Just sayin’.

        Furthermore, when Eric eyes Sookie and says “even if he has what I want,” or whatever, his back is turned to Yvetta. She can’t see his face or the way he looks at Sookie, and for all she knows he could mean Bill’s house, or job, or position of power. Yvetta would have no idea who Bill is and what the relationship between ANY of them are. All she would hear is that somebody’s missing, and her new boss has to find him – even if her new boss would rather the guy stay gone. And who is this strange, angry girl busting up the party?

        • 354 Dee
          May 24, 2010 at 3:36 pm

          Maspencer-that is a very good way to look at it and so true. It’s not like Eric intended for Sookie to see any of that. Yes the Eric that we like would never do such a thing but like you said, she does just barge in so wasn’t by choice. At that point well she has already seen what she’s seen. And Jonnarose, you also made a great point that Eric has his back to Yvetta, and just by saying “even if he does have what i want” well she can’t see Eric’s face so doesn’t know how he is looking at Sookie and “it” can be other things, he didn’t say “i want you” plus the way he says it is just very matter of fact, not that he was really trying to come on to her. He was looking at her and said what was on his mind.

          Not worried about how Yvetta would feel for Eric to do that though because don’t think she would even care and at that point, well she JUST met him and had sex with him immediately and I’m sure for her it is just about sex and I don’t even think she cares. With Sookie, it wasn’t intentional for he to see any of that. I’m sure if he was able to avoid it, he definitely would’ve. I think we need to see the full scene, some things just seem odd.

        • May 24, 2010 at 4:09 pm

          [Both Sookie and Yvetta were objectified in this scene]

          Maybe. Or to say better, it’s Yvetta the one who’s being objectified and I honestly don’t give a f**k about her. She wants to be treated like this. Like all fangbangers do.
          [Her โ€œaudition,โ€ from what we have seen so far, consisted of her immediately getting naked to have sex with her potential new boss. Hard to demand respect from someone if you donโ€™t respect yourself.]
          Agreed, JonnaRose. Why should Eric respect a woman who throws herself to him in order to get a job?
          I would have been waaay more disappointed if Eric showed a romantic interest towards her. THAT would have been completely OOC, not the fact that he’s using her (NOT forcing her) for his own pleasure (and may I add, giving her pleasure, too). I also don’t think Eric is treating her badly or harming her, and even if it was the case, I wouldn’t be surprised at all. I never thought Eric was the embodiement of the Perfect Man or even less the knight in shining armour.
          I don’t see the Eric VS Bill thing like Good VS Evil.
          What I always liked in Eric’s character was the fact that he never hides who he is, and he is… he’s not evil. He’s selfish and manipulative, and he doesn’t like humans. We know it. He doesn’t even pretend to feel equal to a human. That is going to change, and maybe it’s already changing, only he’s not showing.

          IMO, Eric is behaving accordingly to his personality, he’s calm and slightly amused by the situation. His flirting is polite and not gross. And I see humour in his words and in his behaviour, though different from the flamboyant humour he has in the books.

          But SVB and you all, I respect and understand your disappointment, especially if you expect to see BookEric in TB. I don’t expect this, I repeat, I like the books but I’m not crazy about them, and I prefer TB. That’s all. ^^

          • 356 KPMRSE
            May 24, 2010 at 4:50 pm

            I think we’re seriously getting played here.

            I agree with Renee that I don’t think sex is going on between them in the DOD. I can see an alternative situation where after the audition Eric/Yvette go to his office. During their tour of his desk, Yvette says something that issuspecious. At which point, Eric brought her to the DOD to interogate her – which is why he at this point doesn’t care that she hears his conversation with Sookie. If the DOD is there to futher illustrate Eric’s role as Sheriff – then there no way he’d be down there doing anything not Sheriff related.

            Sookie is the one assuming the “6 hours” is sexual in nature, and Eric does lead her on – most likely to gauge her reaction. Eric’s body language in this scene doesn’t add up to doing anything physical for 6 hours. He’s too calm, and seems to be trying to keep his emotions, like anger under control.

            Now, if I’m wrong and there is crazy sexy time in the basement with the skank – I conpletely agree that Eric has objectified both women in the scene, nearly to the point of no redemption in my eyes.

            • 357 Kathy
              May 24, 2010 at 5:29 pm

              Gosh, I just think AB has had Eric do so many worse things in the last two seasons. I really don’t understand why sex with a skank makes him redemptionless. But I guess we all have our own dealbreakers.

              I think calling in Loreana was unconscionable and much much worse than sex in a dungeon with a willing participant. And the way he treated Sookie was no worse than she was treating him, IMHO. But that’s just me.

              • 358 sunnynala
                May 24, 2010 at 5:37 pm

                the way he treated Sookie was no worse than she was treating him,

                Agreed, and I for one fucking love the fact that he is refusing to coddle her.

                I think calling in Loreana was unconscionable

                As you say we each have our own dealbreakers but I understood why Eric did that. Yes, he wanted Lorena to come between B/S but he also needed someone to distract Bill from making a disaster of rescuing Godric. Sookie was already missing by this point and Eric knew it. If Bill were allowed to run off to find Sookie he could have caused a freaking bloodbath.

            • 359 MASpencer
              May 24, 2010 at 5:35 pm

              Personally, I’d be WAY more upset if Eric was “interrogating” her. Violence against women is never okay.

              It’s one thing if she was just being “held” on the carousel with other “prisoners” like we saw in season 2. But to have her standing there with her hands above her head and him in front of her WITHOUT a sexual pretense suggests to me that he was actively torturing her. And that would be the only unforgiveable circumstance in my eyes, when he simply could have glamoured her.

              I realize that Eric mentioned torture to Sookie in the books, but I wholly assumed he was bluffing. If they played his character like that in the series, however, well… it would be lost on me. Period.

              • 360 sunnynala
                May 24, 2010 at 5:40 pm

                Surely Sookie could read Yvette in that scene and we just didn’t see it. If she were in any kind of distress Sookie would know it and wouldn’t have been so unconcerned about the lady hanging from the ceiling. LOL.

                • 361 MASpencer
                  May 24, 2010 at 5:44 pm

                  This is what I think, too, Sunny. There’s no way Sookie would have been all KTHXBAI if Yvetta was being waterboarded. Ha.

                  • 362 sunnynala
                    May 24, 2010 at 5:47 pm

                    Hahaha, yep. Sookie is already down the stairs when the scene starts. She had plenty of time to read Yvette as she was descending the steps.

              • 363 LLE
                May 24, 2010 at 9:56 pm

                Eric in the books wanted to sleep with Sookie and he really did not want to damaged her body. If Eric was not interest in Sookie, he would had torture her. Eric was not planning on torture Sookie but scarring her but if it was another woman he would had torture her or killed her. Eric was very ruthless killer.

          • May 24, 2010 at 11:25 pm

            Maybe. Or to say better, itโ€™s Yvetta the one whoโ€™s being objectified and I honestly donโ€™t give a f**k about her. She wants to be treated like this. Like all fangbangers do.

            For real? Man.

            Just kinda speechless.

            • May 25, 2010 at 6:19 am

              Yes, for real. I have no simpathy for her character, absolutely. I think she is trying to get something from Eric and to put him in very big trouble.
              I’m NOT saying that she deserves to be tortured or humiliated, that isn’t even an option for me because I don’t really think it’s the case. There’s nothing in the world that I loathe more than rapists and violence against women.
              For me, that was just plain, happy, playful sex between 2 willing adults and what if Yvetta is enjoying it for real? Do we have to blame her too because she LIKES to be tied to a chain? Maybe she’s there, laughing her ass off at Sookie’s dress and just wanting Eric to come back to her. Who knows?

              The thing is, I don’t blame Billy for his murders (not so much, I’m way more irritated by his hypocrisy) and I don’t blame Eric for his little ride on the carousel.
              I’ve read and seen plenty of vampire related movies and books and I have to say Eric looks like a boy scout compared to, i.e., Andrรฉ from Nancy Kilpatrick’s novels.

              Please keep in mind that English is not my mother language so trying to express my opinion is quite an endeavor for me.

          • 366 millarca21
            May 25, 2010 at 5:25 am

            I agree with what Hime has said here. We got a double ep of TB last night: I Will Rise Up and the one after it. These episodes reminded me that I like TB Eric just fine. As long as we gradually see TB Eric changing and see him smiling, like in that scene on the porch, and we get important lines like “I don’t like having feelings”, etc., I’ll be a very happy camper.

        • 367 Ashley
          May 25, 2010 at 1:55 am

          You know thats a really good point…if Yvetta could even hear what Eric said, which unless shes a supe she couldnt, then she wouldnt have known that when Eric said “Even if I want what is his” that he was talking about Sookie. She wouldnt have seen his face or body language. She would have had no clue that Eric was talking about Sookie. Thats changes the whole thing really. Now i really dont have a problem with it.

      • 368 Ashley
        May 24, 2010 at 4:55 pm

        Well, IMO if Yvetta didnt want to be objectified why did she have sex with a guy shed just met? I mean, the woman exudes sexuality and shes obviously up for casual sex with someone she doesnt know, so shes probably fine with being objectified. As for Sookie, she didnt seem offended by his remark. And as i said earlier, i didnt see it as a come on, merely a statement to see her reaction. He wasnt expecting a reciprocation, so doesnt that kind of eliminate it as a come on? He knows she loves Bill and wouldnt sleep with him. It was weird to say it in front of Yvetta, but i guess he expects that she knows there relatioship is merely sexual. And why should we expect more after having sex with someone shed just met, i dont know. The scene isnt ideal but i just didnt read it as Sookie being objectified. Only Yvetta.

        • 369 MASpencer
          May 24, 2010 at 5:26 pm

          I think we begin to tread dangerous ground when we start suggesting that “skanks deserve to be treated badly.” That’s just unfair. Women can be plainly interested in “meaningless” sex without being maligned as skanks, just like men can. So to me, this is not about who deserves to be treated what way– or about Sookie somehow “deserving” BETTER treatment than Yvetta– it’s about a tacit understanding that Eric and Yvetta presumably had as sexual partners, and NOTHING more.

          I think what we are all agreeing on here is that when two people engage in casual sex, there is MUTUAL objectification involved. Ergo, Eric is being objectified in this situation as well– by Yvetta herself. This is not Yvetta’s first rodeo, and I very much doubt that she was any more ashamed of her “compromising” position than Eric was. So when Sookie walked in, I can hardly imagine her being horrified. Inconvenienced, maybe… and perhaps even a little amused. We’ll find out when we’re able to see the scene in its entirety.

          The point being, I doubt Eric planned on cooking Yvetta breakfast when the marathon fucking sesh was over. And I doubt Yvetta expected him to, either. This wasn’t dinner and a movie, ladies. If he gave her a six-hour-long orgasm, I’d say he provided her with all the respect that ANY casual sex partner can ask for– and I’ll add that it’s a LOT more than some three-pump-chumps would give you. LOL.

          • 370 sunnynala
            May 24, 2010 at 5:29 pm

            Agree, and LMAO @ ‘three-pump-chumps’. ๐Ÿ˜€

          • 371 Ashley
            May 24, 2010 at 5:39 pm

            I wasnt saying that she deserved to be treated like that. I was saying that you dont have sex with someone you dont know and expect a relationship thats all. And i dont think that she would be suprised by Eric objectifying her. Thats it. I didnt mean she deserved it, merely that she probably expected it. So sorry if thats how it sounded.

          • 372 Kathy
            May 24, 2010 at 5:39 pm

            Ok, shouldn’t have used the word Skank. Sorry.

          • 373 pennydreadful
            May 24, 2010 at 5:45 pm

            Amen, sister!

          • 374 MASpencer
            May 24, 2010 at 5:58 pm

            Oh no! I totally figured that’s what you guys meant! ๐Ÿ˜€

            I just thought I’d clarify the semantics before the conversation took a wrong turn, is all. I think we’re all in agreement here– specifically with regard to the fact that objectification ISN’T disrespectful if it’s the product of mutual consent.

            Personally, I’d rather have an up-front, mind-blowing, no-strings-attached all-nighter than have some guy take me out on a few dates, sleep with me, and then not call me back. I think the latter is WAY more disrespectful than the former. But maybe that’s just me.

            Call me cynical… but I had an awful lot of fun as a single woman, let me say that. ๐Ÿ˜€

            • 375 sunnynala
              May 24, 2010 at 6:02 pm

              LMAO! I didn’t have much time as a single woman but I totally would have had a lot of fun if I did. ๐Ÿ˜‰

            • 376 Ashley
              May 24, 2010 at 6:07 pm

              Yeah i agree…its better for a guy to be up front and honest, say he doesnt want a relationship, and then have a one nighter versus a guy lying to you and pretending he wants a relationship when really he just wants you in the sack as a conquest. Thats why i like Eric. He doesnt pretend to be something hes not, unlike Bill.

              • 377 pennydreadful
                May 24, 2010 at 6:18 pm

                I think that in season three, the audience will have a chance to see that Eric is everything Bill has been pretending to be: devoted, loyal, loving, and honest.

          • May 24, 2010 at 6:36 pm

            I think we begin to tread dangerous ground when we start suggesting that โ€œskanks deserve to be treated badly.โ€ Thatโ€™s just unfair. Women can be plainly interested in โ€œmeaninglessโ€ sex without being maligned as skanks, just like men can. So to me, this is not about who deserves to be treated what wayโ€“ or about Sookie somehow โ€œdeservingโ€ BETTER treatment than Yvettaโ€“ itโ€™s about a tacit understanding that Eric and Yvetta presumably had as sexual partners, and NOTHING more.

            Thank you for saying that MAS. It’s one of the things I’m finding jarring about this conversation and distrubing about the way Eric is treating her during the discussion with Sookie, if he did just leave her there nude and hanging in his dungeon like a piece of meat.

            Eric knew Sookie was on her way to see him and knew when she was heading down to the dungeon. For Eric not to bother to release Yvetta and throw her lingerie to her, indicates the kind of person he is. I don’t care if she the biggest ho on the planet and doesn’t give a crap. She deserves more than that from him.

            This is not for you MAS but for people that still think the issue is the kinky sex. It’s not. It’s about the when and the where, what that says about him, his judgement, and his view of his sex partners.

            I’ll just leave it at that until we see the scene in context and determine what exactly is going on in the DOD.

            If he is questioning her, I do not believe that he left her hanging for the entire time. He was probably just holding her down there while he checked out her story. Then he returned and decided that he would put the fear of God into her so that she wouldn’t try lying again. I can’t see him doing any more than stringing her up and threatening her like he did with Sookie.

            • 380 MASpencer
              May 24, 2010 at 6:45 pm

              I totally agree with you Renee, and I think that this will all boil down to context. We have to see the full scene before we can make an accurate judgment one way or the other. It’s just that simple.

            • 381 Dee
              May 24, 2010 at 6:52 pm

              I pray to god he is not questioning her down there, for me that would be worse because we will just be reminded of Eric having a dungeon to torture people and then the Lafayette thing comes up. I hope if he were to question her that he wouldn’t chain her up to do so. I’d rather he glamour her and sit her down, i’m done with seeing Eric who tortures people. Even if he hasn’t harmed her yet, doesn’t matter because the fact that he would chain her up would be bad enough and people would have more to say about that than having sex with her. Plus the fact that it’s a woman and he is doing this makes it even worse than Lafayette. I would be much more upset about that.

              It’s not about treating her like a piece of meat, it’s simply that she probably doesn’t care. Many people who have casual sex don’t care what a person does and he probably knows this. Plus, all he did in the scene is deal with a woman that came running down and barged in(so we think) and question him about kidnapping her boyfriend. I doubt Yvetta would sit there and even think that he is doing anything wrong, not like it’s another woman of his interrupting them. She doesn’t know Sookie, and we have to look at this from Yvetta’s POV, not us the viewers who know everything. Yvetta sees some woman come running in and interrupting them, accused Eric of kidnapping her bf. Yvetta is likely to think this woman even hates Eric to do such a thing as accuse him of kidnapping her bf. Then she also sees that she has a bf and is concerned for him, this is not showing an interest towards Eric at all and if Yvetta would be a jealous person, there is no reason for it in this scene. Sookie then asks about where to find Lorena and Eric tells her that as sheriff it is his duty. So basically all that really happens and nothing to make yvetta feel like a piece of meat for standing there and hearing all this. From her POV she is listening to Eric deal with Vampire politics. Yes Eric did say “even if i wish to have what is his” he did not say even though I want you for myself Sookie, he could’ve said that very easily and sounds more like Eric. Sounds like he did use caution when saying that line, and Eric could’ve been talking about other things. Yvetta did not see the look Eric gave Sookie. So in the end, Yvetta having no knowledge of Eric wanting Sookie, nothing about this conversation should make her uncomfortable. It’s just a woman whose bf has been kidnapped and she wants to find him.

            • 382 L
              May 24, 2010 at 7:23 pm

              But why would he be questioning her naked?

              • 383 Kathy
                May 24, 2010 at 7:29 pm

                Using his GP as a whip? LOL!

                • 384 MASpencer
                  May 24, 2010 at 7:45 pm

                  OMG. LOL!!!!

                  Thank you, Kathy. I will think of this– and make the appropriate accompanying sound effects– everytime I feel myself starting to take this silly little show too damn seriously.

                • May 24, 2010 at 7:54 pm

                  Kathy, that is playing a really funny vid in my head. *snort*

              • May 24, 2010 at 8:19 pm

                I think it starts off in Eric’s office and so he pulls on his pants, and she puts on at least part of her clothes before he takes her down to the DOD for questioning, which would be after Fangtasia has opened for business. I think she’s a were, so restraits would be appripriate until he figures out what she is doing there. He might be trying to get her to transform, so that she can’t fall back on the lie that she’s just a shifter.

                • 387 Dee
                  May 24, 2010 at 8:36 pm

                  Yeah but that would mean he still chains her up.

                  Also, do you think that he would find out about her as soon as the show starts? Most viewers haven’t seen the minisode so they weren’t even introduced to her character yet. This means as soon as we see her, he will figure it all out. I’d rather it be played out during the show. Casting call said she is Eric’s lover, they have a sexual relationship so I think first we need to see her as Eric’s lover and then the secrets to come out.

                  • 388 Dee
                    May 24, 2010 at 8:40 pm

                    I forgot to say that we also saw that pic of Yvetta on a pole and Eric on the throne. Seems like he is dressed the same way as when the queen and sookie visit him which would be after Sookie’s visit in the lavendar dress. So if she still is stripping there, not sure if he knows anything yet.

                  • May 24, 2010 at 9:10 pm

                    IMO this parallels Daphne and Sam. First he thought she was human, then he discovered she was shifter and played around with her until she turned on him.

                    I think in their first encounter when Eric tastes her, he realizes that Yvetta’s a were, not a shifter as she purports. He questions her, checks out her story, threatens her, and then releases her after Sookie leaves. She continues to work at FT and play around with the boss just like Daphne. At the end of this season, she’ll betray him and turn him over to the magister for selling V or Hallow.

                    • 390 Dee
                      May 24, 2010 at 9:19 pm

                      Ok now that would make more sense to me if it played out that way. I knew he couldnt question her and end things with her so soon.

                    • 391 MASpencer
                      May 24, 2010 at 10:04 pm

                      This could totally be, Renee. My only issue with that theory would be that we would presumably find out the truth about Yvetta in the first episode. And it seems like something that would be more likely to come out later.

                    • May 24, 2010 at 10:43 pm

                      MAS, I think they want to identify Yvetta as a were right off the bat so that the audience’s first experience with one will be of a misunderstood and maltreated minority because the sob story she gives him to explain why she decieved him to get a job. I also think Eric has to find out right away so that his enlightened treatment of weres can be contrasted against RE’s, SA’s, and probably Bill.

                    • 393 sunnynala
                      May 24, 2010 at 11:38 pm

                      MAS, I think they want to identify Yvetta as a were right off the bat so that the audienceโ€™s first experience with one will be of a misunderstood and maltreated minority because the sob story she gives him to explain why she decieved him to get a job. I also think Eric has to find out right away so that his enlightened treatment of weres can be contrasted against REโ€™s, SAโ€™s, and probably Bill.

                      Yes, no doubt he will buy her story at first until he’s forced to understand at the last minute just what she’s been up to, just like Sam did with Daphne. I have a feeling that the Magister will figure in that when Yvette sets in motion the events that lead to him coming to Fangtasia.

              • May 24, 2010 at 8:34 pm

                I don’t think they are naked. I think they started off in his office, and by the time Eric realized Yvetta was a were instead of the shifter that her fox, leopard, snake clothing managerie suggested, FT had opened for business. They would at least partially dress on the way to the DOD. IMO, he restrained her because he knows she’s a were. He might be trying to make her transform so that she can’t keep denying it.

        • 396 Ashley
          May 24, 2010 at 5:46 pm

          No wheere in my statement did i say that she deserved to be objectified, merely that you cant have casual sex with someone you dont know, whether you are a man or a woman, and expect never to be objectified. I dont have a problem with casual sex, but people who engage in casual sex arent looking for a real relationship. So i guess thats what i meant by “if Yvetta didnt want to be objectified why did she have sex with a guy shed just met?” Most guys will objectify you if you have sex with them and you had just met them. Im not saying they should, but thats just reality. I didnt mean that Yvettas a skank. But i did mean that she probably doesnt care about being objectified. Shes in it for sex with an attractive person just like Eric.

          • 397 Kathy
            May 24, 2010 at 6:00 pm

            I think she’s ranting at me for calling Yvetta a skank. I will watch what I call characters from now on.

            • 398 MASpencer
              May 24, 2010 at 6:04 pm

              No no! Totally not!!!

              I’m not the skank police, I swear! LOL.

            • 399 MASpencer
              May 24, 2010 at 6:16 pm

              Oh and also, I’m pretty sure Yvetta IS a skank. But this is America– skanks have a right to hot vampire sex, too! LOL.

              • 400 sunnynala
                May 24, 2010 at 6:21 pm

                I’m with Hoyt. There are no sluts, just people trying to connect.

                However, if she is a spy trying to trap Eric then I have a worse word for her than ‘skank’. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • 401 MASpencer
            May 24, 2010 at 6:02 pm

            You are totally right, Ashley. That’s exactly what I meant when I said that Yvetta probably isn’t expecting breakfast. LOL.

    • 403 Lotus
      May 24, 2010 at 10:32 am

      Well, I’m not European and I don’t have a problem with this scene or DOD sex with Yvetta. ๐Ÿ˜‰ We can be perverts together! There are probably going to be differing opinions throughout season 3, and that’s okay. Differences make the world a much more interesting place. We won’t all agree all the time, but I’m pretty sure there is room for multiple points of view here.

      In all seriousness, the interaction between Eric and Sookie in this scene is hot. They have amazing chemistry, and I really like that he is “duty bound” to find Bill. My thoughts tend towards QSA forbidding him from getting involved and him doing it anyway. The fact that the Magister shows up in one of these previews in what appears to be Fangtasia makes me think either Eric, the Queen, or perhaps the both of them, are in serious shit. That might explain the clip we’ve seen of Pam looking really upset, too. Eeee, how exciting!

    • 404 Kathy
      May 24, 2010 at 2:40 pm

      I don’t mind the DOD sex either. I don’t mind that Yvetta is chained while this conversation is going on because it’s not like Yevetta and Eric are “dating.” They’re just fucking. Why should she care that Eric is attracted to Sookie? It’s not like there are “feelings” involved.

      None of that bothers me. What bothers me is Eric’s lack of a sense of humor. His siffiness (and not his GP’s stiffness) the immobility of his face. It’s like he got a massive shot of botox and has a broomstick up his ass. I don’t like how the character is being portrayed by the actor and the creator of the series. I don’t like how there has been no development whatsoever in the friendship that is SO VERY IMPORTANT between him as Sookie. THAT’s what pisses me off the most.

      • May 24, 2010 at 11:49 pm

        You know what I think my problem with this whole thing is? It’s just tipped me off an edge I’ve been dangling from for a while.

        First, they have him stand by and watch Bill stake Longshadow – which set the tone for his whole character from the first introduction.
        Then they take his sense of humour and turn it into snark.
        Then they cut his hair off.
        Then they take any sense of confidence this character has in his own worth and attractiveness by having him call in Lorena, and having him undermine Bill with his authority over him more times now than I can count.
        Then they set up these fucked up blood rules – THAT STILL MAKE NO SENSE – that completely undermine the source of Sookie’s attraction to him (and Bill, but that’s beside the point).

        Sorry, but I’m just done rationalising all of this. There is no pay off, and I am losing interest. FAST.

        • 406 Kathy
          May 25, 2010 at 1:57 am

          You sound like me when I rant about this. I’m weeping now!

          • 407 Robin
            May 25, 2010 at 2:18 am

            Maybe another DITF post would take your mind off of this for awhile? I would love to hear more of your thoughts about Eric, Sookie and the blood bond. Possibly where you think this is all headed?

            • May 25, 2010 at 2:34 am

              Yah Robin I’m sulking back to my books today. I’m working on a couple of book related posts.
              It’s really best I don’t think about this fuckery too much.
              About ten times today I’ve considered pulling all references to True Blood off the front of this blog and pretending it doesn’t exist. And just going back to focusing on the books.
              I either need to learn to reconcile them or wipe the show completely because I’m wasting far more mental energy getting wound up about it than I should be.
              Headspace needs some serious readjustment.

              • 409 Kathy
                May 25, 2010 at 2:39 am

                I’m entirely too obsessed with what that damn AB is doing. My friend and I just had dinner tonight (I turned her on to the books) and we decided to just start all the books over again to make ourselves happier. It will be my 4th time! She’s going to the Fan screening with me. We’re coming up with questions and by god, SVB, I’m asking about the hymen/hair issue. LOL!

              • 410 Robin
                May 25, 2010 at 3:13 am

                Can’t wait to hear what you have to say! There is so much information provided in book 10 to speculate on, especially with the vampire clans and hierarchy. I am also beginning to wonder if Sookie has a touch of psychic ability. I really look forward to your book posts!

        • 411 Jo
          May 25, 2010 at 2:16 am

          I also felt like crying when I read this, SVB was the one who made me understand the Sookiverse and all layers of characters, especially Eric
          I agree 100% with every comment of SVB, Renee and Kathy
          yes changes are deliberate, and although I would like to remain optimistic like Sunny, Dee, VL and many others with their various opinions, I do not know if I can, but at the same time I can not shut down completely, who knows the end of this season I get really sick

  53. 412 Belle
    May 24, 2010 at 8:29 am

    I am going to throw caution to the wind and hope it doesn’t blow my head off. I think we need to see this whole scene in the episode. We only getting a snippet. Maybe there is more to what we are seeing. Maybe yvette and eric were having sex and something happened and he has tricked her into being locked up. I don’t know. I am suspect about yvette anyway. She is either a shapeshifter or a witch. Either way Eric is not to fond of them. or I could be totally wrong…… which i hope is not the case as I don’t think much of this new Eric. AB seems to be wanting to get our attention. So bring on june 13 please!!!

    • 413 nskars
      May 24, 2010 at 1:56 pm

      I agree Belle.

      I understand everyone’s viewpoints to do with this clip. Hell, I was squeeing and swooning when I watched the clip at first but now I’m looking at it from a different angle. Then again, I have forced myself to seperate these 2 Sookieverse entities (SVM/TB) and take them for what they are. As much as I adore ASkars and his acting, his Eric isn’t really BE to me and so I just tend to accept TB as what it is… fanfic. I guess that’s why the S3 hair and the dungeon etc doesn’t really bother me. Obviously his objectifying and disrespect of women does, but until we see the whole thing, who know what the hell is going on down there?

      And with the mountain of clips we’ve been getting, I am feeling now a little dismayed by S3 in it’s entirety. It’s all looking like a big old jumbled mess and I just want June 13 to hurry up so I can watch the entire 1st episode in context and make my mind up about things then.

  54. 414 Dee
    May 24, 2010 at 9:04 am

    Belle-I agree, I just feel there is more to this scene. Now I admit, it definitely looks like an arm in the beginning of the video but then other parts make me think not. First of all, how come Sookie never looks over there when she says “doing this” if it were me, i’d look over at the moment i said that or immediately after. Then I almost feel like Eric might even say something like “isn’t that right yvetta” when asked where he has been all night. If you watch the background, you never see movement so would she stay so still and so quiet. I don’t know it’s a bit weird to me. Is it possible he told Yvetta to go upstairs before they spoke? Not sure how possible this is because I will admit looks like an arm but also can’t say “oh yeah it’s her” so maybe what we’re seeing is not an arm?

    I’m confused lol so I’ll wait 3 weeks until it airs to see for sure. But besides that one split sec that looks like an arm, it seems like Yvetta is not there. I’m hoping he did ask her to leave them alone

  55. 415 Mia
    May 24, 2010 at 9:10 am

    I haven’t watched this clip, but during the season, when they run the previews for the following week’s episode, it seems that they are often misleading as to the true content of the upcoming episode. Maybe that it will play differently when shown with the rest of the episode?

    Based on everyone’s comments, on the positive side, I’m glad that Eric is expressing his interest in Sookie to Sookie. By S3, Eric would have flirted/hit on Sookie numerous times, if TB had followed the “spirit” of the books. Instead we get the chronic posturing between Eric and Bill making it seem like Sookie is a toy two children are fighting over instead of a person. IMO TB Eric would be equally direct when it involves something he wants so I’m not sure why TB hasn’t gone that route.

    Plus in the books, Sookie’s constant refusal of Eric’s advances piques Eric’s interest and illustrates her character. Unlike TB S1 when Sookie kisses Sam after Bill’s been gone a nanosecond to the vampire tribunal. (Sorry. I’ve always had a problem with the logic of that episode.)

    I guess I’m glad that 6 hours isn’t enough time for Sookie to write Bill off and jump on Eric because I would like to like the main character, and TB Sookie isn’t often likable. Of all things I hope for in S3, it’s that Sookie gets her spunk back – no more damsel in distress crap.

  56. 416 Dwimordene
    May 24, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Hey, When I try to see the official clips from the links some of you have posted, the video doesn’t play, just stays with the play buttom forever. Is there something that has to be done before?

  57. 418 ChelleInOz
    May 24, 2010 at 10:00 am

    Wow, so many comments, ideas and theories to wade through on this….

    SVB I hear you re Eric’s character. TB Eric seems to be much darker than perhaps I was expecting, the sexiness has a harder edge? I have to say the DOD with laffy was startling and I guess it work to show us the ruthlessness of not just E but also of the Vampire culture and their forms of ‘justice’. Re this scene with Sookie – mmmm I just don’t know what to make of it and will have to wait for the context of the whole scene before I get too uncomfortable with the arc of eric’s character on TB

    I guess I keep hoping that the snippets we’ve had that allude to a more fun, less dark Eric will come to fruition. The scenes that I’m thinking of are:

    1. Eric strolling up to Sookie and Bill (after Godrics nest is bombed) saying he heard his name mentioned. I thought that was a cheeky playful Eric.
    2. Sookies POV in the dream 1. I am convinced AB will let this more relaxed and fun Eric evolve throught the show. Else why show this side of him at all in terms of character and relationship development for E&S?
    3. Eric commenting on Pams shoes after she had to search the woods for the Maenad – the faux seriousness of that comment was fun and silly (well to me anyway)

    These scenes seem to me to be glimpses of book Eric. I am trying to stay open minded and have some faith that TB won’t stray so far from book Eric that we feel we’ve lost those wonderful traits

    IDK, I guess I am going to let S3 roll over me and hope for the best!?!

  58. 419 andrea
    May 24, 2010 at 10:30 am

    hey… i don’t know if you already noticed that in the other promo

    eric is sitting on top of tissues… which means the bed scene is real and it’s happening right after bill’s phone call.

    • 420 Lotus
      May 24, 2010 at 10:41 am

      Good catch, Andrea. It must happen the same night we see the clip of Alcide with no shirt on comforting Sookie.

      • 421 andrea
        May 24, 2010 at 10:59 am

        nope…i’m a little confused cause that’s what i also thought in the beginning…but she’s wearing long round earings when she first goes to club dead and Alcide is comforting her- you can see them when she asks if she;s dressed inappropriately, and in the bed scene she;s wearing really small earings. so, unless she changed her earings after bill;s phone call it’s either the second night after eric heals her or hbo forgot what continuity means.

        • 422 Kathy
          May 24, 2010 at 3:01 pm

          I don’t think it’s the same night as Alcide. I also don’t think this is a come on or a prelude to sex. This is Sookie proving to Eric she can be sexy and go to Russel’s to investigate. It will stop right after he appears to be pulling her down for a kiss. OR it’s an Eric fantasy. Either way, I don’t think we’ll be seeing them having real time sex this season.

        • 423 Lotus
          May 24, 2010 at 4:23 pm

          Good eye, andrea. It’s a mysterious tissue incident then! Maybe Sookie has been crying again, though she doesn’t exactly look beside herself in that particular moment. ๐Ÿ™‚

  59. 424 Dunkinstiks
    May 24, 2010 at 11:53 am

    I am NOT surprised at all. After last season why would anyone be surprised at anything AB does? And I think AB was making a statement by cutting Eric’s hair, saying he is NO longer going to be anything like Book Eric. I lost all hope & faith of ever seeing a glimpse of Book Eric appear after S2 and I think it will only get worse. We have NEVER seen Book Sookie or Bill so why should we expect Eric? ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    • 425 Kathy
      May 24, 2010 at 3:11 pm

      Yeah, unfortunately I think everything you say is true. Last season was terrible save episode 9, which was either a fluke or a bone thrown to keep those of us really pissed off watching.

  60. 426 BohemianJ
    May 24, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    You know what? I’m just plum tuckered out of speculating…but that’s still not gonna stop me. June 13 needs to get here so we can all be devastated or enlightened or elated or whatever adjective suits our fancy ๐Ÿ™‚ At this point, I don’t think you can even compare TB to the books – they’re two entities completely separate from one another. Previous posters are correct when they say that TB is Alan Ball’s own personal fan fic. AND, lastly, I wonder if TB Eric is the way he is because he is being written and created by a MAN while book Eric is written by a woman???? Men and women are diabolically different thinkers when it comes to love/romance/sex….so maybe AB is just writing what he thinks is romantic???

  61. 427 KittyKat
    May 24, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    Ok, I get it, I get it. Bill is a “saint” (a saint that has sex while covered in disgusting graveyard dirt, maybe maggots included-just gross), Eric is a deviant (ok, granted, in the books, Sookie describes him as a “lion who’s a deviant”, but in the books, she never really saw him get his freak on.
    Does AB really think that this Eric-Bill dichotomy that he’s creating will even the playing field? Making Eric look like shit won’t make anyone love Bill.

    • 428 MASpencer
      May 24, 2010 at 3:05 pm

      I don’t think it’s supposed to. I think it’s supposed to remind viewers that appearances can be deceiving. And that hypocrisy is the homage that vice pays to virtue.

      • 429 sunnynala
        May 24, 2010 at 3:20 pm

        Yes. This scene is the antithesis of the hypocrisy evident in that beautiful scene in the French restaurant, with the music playing, the lovely (prom) dress, the sparkly diamond. All of the ‘trappings’ of romance, misdirecting Sookie (and a good bit of the audience) from the truth.

        And here is Eric, stripped bare before her and telling her, from his heart (because really, unlike Bill he has nothing to gain by loving Sookie) that he wants her. He’s not lying to her in any way, shape, or form in this scene and people are distracted and put off by the setting?

        The contrast is striking. As I said above, it’s the difference between a lie in a beautiful setting and the plain truth in the gutter. Which would you rather have?

        Get used to it. Other than the roof scene, Eric is always shown in circumstances that are hardcore and intimidating which makes him SEEM like the villain when nothing could be further from the truth.

        Bill is always shown in circumstances that set him up as the ‘hero’ when nothing could be further from the truth.

        What AB is doing here is asking: can you really tell the difference between the good guys and the bad guys? Do you allow superficial ‘trappings’ of reality to fool you or do you look beyond all that to the person inside?

        • 430 Freyja
          May 24, 2010 at 3:35 pm

          HEAR HEAR!!!!! You go girl ๐Ÿ˜€

          • 431 sunnynala
            May 24, 2010 at 3:48 pm

            Thank you Freyja! ๐Ÿ™‚

          • May 24, 2010 at 4:37 pm

            Something very interesting is occurring with language. Many are using the word basement when we know it’s a dungeon. It has been portrayed as such with all the connotations that the word dungeon congers up.
            One more snark for AB…didn’t your mama teach you, you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. I realize he has a political agenda, but give us alleged lefties a bone.

        • May 24, 2010 at 3:48 pm

          OMG, girl, YES! This is made of WIN!

        • 436 KittyKat
          May 24, 2010 at 4:04 pm

          He’s mixing up the good guy with the bad outer “look” with the bad guy that seems all goodness. But still…..

        • 437 Lotus
          May 24, 2010 at 4:24 pm

          Yes, sunny! Everything you said here strikes a chord of truth with me.

        • 438 Liz
          May 24, 2010 at 4:41 pm

          ty for putting so eloquently how i see it too

        • 439 LLE
          May 24, 2010 at 5:00 pm

          Bill is wearing mask and Eric is not.

        • 440 Ashley
          May 24, 2010 at 5:01 pm

          Yep. You make perfect sense. Thats how i saw it as well.

        • 442 Robin
          May 24, 2010 at 7:11 pm

          Excellent post Sunny! You cut right to the heart of the discussion! You should definitely blog this!

          • 443 pennydreadful
            May 24, 2010 at 7:18 pm

            Sunny…wow…just WOW. You’ve summed it up perfectly! I agree with everyone else that you should further explore this theme over at TBU. I can’t wait too see what other insights you come up with ๐Ÿ™‚

          • 445 Robin
            May 24, 2010 at 10:53 pm

            Okay, just home from work, and I wanted to say this:

            Bravo Sunny, you figured it out!

            [itโ€™s the difference between a lie in a beautiful setting and the plain truth in the gutter.]

            [And here is Eric, stripped bare before her and telling her, from his heart (because really, unlike Bill he has nothing to gain by loving Sookie) that he wants her. Heโ€™s not lying to her in any way, shape, or form in this scene and people are distracted and put off by the setting?]

            I have put alot of thought into this scene in the dungeon, I can honestly say that I agree with SVB & Renee in their thoughts regarding this scene. Everything about this scene is upsetting and just seems inherently wrong to me, but AB wrote this scene in this manner on purpose. He placed Eric in a situation that would be extremely upsetting to many viewers, and gave him a moment of honesty in telling Sookie he “wants” her.

            It all goes back to those masks that Bill and Eric have been wearing. Slowly, those masks are going to be removed this season. They are being shown as opposites in character, and soon their character will switch.

            I really was not happy the way this scene was portrayed, it was just wrong. But, what did make me happy was the honesty of what Eric said to Sookie about wanting her. And, also, I absolutely love the sweet smile that Eric gives Sookie on her front porch in the “Welcome Home” promo. Have we ever noticed him smile a genuine smile like that before?

            • 446 sunnynala
              May 24, 2010 at 11:47 pm

              Slowly those masks are going to be removed this season. They are being shown as opposites in character, and soon their character will switch.

              Thank you for your kind comments. ๐Ÿ™‚

              Dude, they’re going to smash the masks with sledgehammers and pickaxes, prise them apart with wire cutters, run over them and then piss on them. ๐Ÿ˜‰

              Leave it to you my sweet darling Sunny to make me take a step back and think a little more removed from my current heightened emotions.

              Thank you dear sweet Dazed. ๐Ÿ˜‰

              I know, it makes me feel so much better too, I canโ€™t wait to read what she has to say!

              Thanks Robin but it might be tomorrow or even later now. There is quite a lot of material plunder when you do a compare and contrast of Eric and Bill and how they are portrayed. I’m not going to make an opus out of a molehill but I wanted to do the subject justice.

        • May 24, 2010 at 11:18 pm

          Leave it to you my sweet darling Sunny to make me take a step back and think a little more removed from my current heightened emotions. I can now see where you are coming from and i really should have learned a long time ago to not discount what i see so quickly…. silly me getting caught up in the negitivity of the scene.

          Thank you once again honey, from removing me from the dark hole that i was falling into over this scene. Love you heaps for it. I can’t wait for your blog post!!!

        • May 24, 2010 at 11:50 pm

          Sunny, as ever with your insight, you get to the heart of the matter. After you explain it so beautifully, I do feel that this is AB’s intention with that scene.

          I still have the same objections that I raised earlier, but you have given me hope that AB will be able to finesse those issues. We shall see.

        • 450 VikingLover
          May 25, 2010 at 3:46 am

          Great points Sunny! I agree. ๐Ÿ™‚ You are “right on” about this. ๐Ÿ™‚ To Dee’s point about the changes made to the “Bill search” from the books to the screen – if AB’s intention was to really make Eric a villian on the show, he could have left in the “torture” conversation and Eric “convincing” Sookie to go to Jackson to find Bill. They took that out of TB entirely which says a lot. In other words, he could have taken that scene out of context from the books and placed those words in TB Eric’s mouth and believe me, it would not have been good. This is why I believe that he is definitely NOT trying to show Eric as a villian. He’s trying to get us to look beyond “Evil Eric” and “Saint Bill” and see them for who they really are. Bill is no saint and Eric is definitely not evil. Bill pretends to be something that he’s not while Eric definitely doesn’t.

    • 452 LLE
      May 24, 2010 at 3:42 pm

      Eric is giving the woman want she wants and I don’t have any problems with that.

  62. 453 MASpencer
    May 24, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    I just wanted to add that, in addition to the comments I’ve made above, I do concede that Eric on True Blood is being depicted much differently than Eric from the books. However, I don’t necessarily think that these depictions are at odds with one another– I just think that they’re emphasizing different character qualities to accomodate a different overall thematic emphasis.

    I don’t think Eric will come off as a misogynist from this encounter. But he will not come out of it looking like conventional romantic lead material either. That’s Bill’s MO for now… but I suspect he will be stripped of that honor next season as well.

    When all of the masks are removed, we will see what these characters are really made of… and we can make informed decisions about “romantic” suitability at that point. But I don’t think that Alan Ball’s main goal is to turn this into a supernatural romance show, so much as it is to present a biting social commentary in an ironic, supernatural setting.

    We can debate whether or not this means that True Blood is REALLY staying true to the “spirit of the books”– but the more romantic viewers in BOTH camps will probably end up being disappointed in the end. At least, that’s the impression that I’m getting.

    • 454 MASpencer
      May 24, 2010 at 3:03 pm

      [a biting social commentary]

      Oh. That pun was totally unintentional. LOL!

    • May 24, 2010 at 3:20 pm

      For me, it depends on whether Eric is still wearing a mask or if this is who he really is because this is not the good boss, the focused entrepreneur, the shrewd sheriff, or the lover of women that I expect Eric to be. This is dumbass Jason with a 1,000 years to develop a hard edge.

      • 456 LLE
        May 24, 2010 at 3:26 pm

        Eric in the book was lot like Jason but Eric had brain and Jason did not. Eric slept with over million women. AB got it right about Eric.

      • 457 LLE
        May 24, 2010 at 3:28 pm

        Eric is giving the woman what she wants. The woman loves pain and Eric know that.

        • 458 MASpencer
          May 24, 2010 at 3:39 pm

          I don’t think we’re going to see Eric inflicting any type of pain. Quite the opposite. But he most certainly WILL be giving her what she WANTS.

          Just my hunch…

      • 460 MASpencer
        May 24, 2010 at 3:37 pm

        I guess my point is that Eric’s sexual proclivities– insofar as they are consensual in nature and not hurting anyone– are hardly a doorway into his soul. They may speak to certain elements of his personality, but they in no way signify the presence or absence of moral character. They are incidental.

        I do not think that this scene will betray him as misogynistic, but I understand that other people feel differently about it. Nevertheless, to me, Eric is simply indulging in an enjoyable evening of freaky sex with a gorgeous and very willing woman. I simply don’t see the harm in that regardless of where it takes place. It shouldn’t make any difference whether Sookie is interrupting him in the dungeon or in a candle-lit suite replete with satin sheets. The bottom line is the same.

        Now, as to his judgment in letting Yvetta in on any secrets when he doesn’t really know her? Well, yeah… that’s kind of dumb, if that’s what’s really happening. But like I said before– the femme fatale has been used as a trap against a million hot, powerful, and competent characters in cinema. (James Bond, anyone?)

        That just tells me that Eric is a sucker for a beautiful woman. So sue him. LOL.

        • 461 LLE
          May 24, 2010 at 3:44 pm

          Eric can glamor Yvetta and she would not remember what he told Sookie.

          • 462 Dee
            May 24, 2010 at 3:54 pm

            He can do that but at the same time, he didn’t say so much to where he might need to do that. He said he is the Sheriff and it is his duty to find Bill. Basically only thing he said. Not only problem is that if she is a spy then she will know about Sookie and this can be a problem with S4, but I don’t think he’s thinking about the possibility of having a spell put on him, Sookie, hiding him and this woman knowing about Sookie. The only thing really revealed to Yvetta is that he is the sheriff of that area and I don’t think that’s something he would hide anyways.

            • 463 MASpencer
              May 24, 2010 at 4:00 pm

              For all we know, Sophie-Anne shows up at Fangtasia in order to ask about Bill… because YVETTA told her what she overheard. I’ll definitely be paying extra close attention to what happens after Yvetta is privy to any kind of conversation. I’m still convinced she’s a spy for SOMEONE.

              • 464 sunnynala
                May 24, 2010 at 4:24 pm

                I think this is absolutely right, and that is how Eric will realize Yvette is a spy.

                Because I STILL think Eric “can’t” go with Sookie to Jackson because he has to keep QSA clueless that Bill is missing AND he has to heed her cryptic warning to stay away from Sookie, else his fangs are in danger of being dangled from the ears of the queen.

                • 465 ChelleInOz
                  May 25, 2010 at 1:12 am

                  Sunny, my theory is that she is either a Were in league with the witches (Hallow etc…) in which case they have cast a spell to hide her Were scent….or she is a witch (Hallow herself perhaps) and again was able to hide scent/decieve Eric via magic. Both would not bode well for Eric and Sookie in terms of her overhearing their coversation….

                  And I just wanted to add that I loved your analysis re Eric and Bill and the masks. I don’t have a problem with AB showing TB Eric as ruthless/hard/boundary pushing as long as those traits are shown in context, build/add to Eric’s character and that he gives us some of the positive traits that have made Eric a flawed yet loveable Viking. I say somewhere below (so many posts now!) that I feel AB is giving hints of this and I am happy to watch the craziness that is TB unfold)

              • 466 Dee
                May 24, 2010 at 4:36 pm

                That is exactly what I was wondering too. If QSA, shows up simply because Yvetta informs her of what has happened. It’s either that or Eric calls the queen and tells her but I’m still trying to figure out if he would.

              • 467 Osterby
                May 25, 2010 at 12:21 am

                And therefore, unlikely to live very long if she’s a spy.

            • 468 LLE
              May 24, 2010 at 4:58 pm

              I doubt Yvetta speaks much English and she might not understand what Eric and Sookie are talking about.

            • May 24, 2010 at 11:52 pm

              Could it be possible that Yvette is blindfolded. Can we see her head clearly in the scene??? It wouldn’t be a stretch to add the blindfold in bondage play: heightened senses and all?? Then If she hasn’t seen Sookie Season 4 could still play out close to the book

        • May 24, 2010 at 4:29 pm

          MAS, I totally agree with you..

          [the femme fatale has been used as a trap against a million hot, powerful, and competent characters in cinema] LOL. Yvetta is definitely a femme fatale and femmes fatales always bring trouble. Poor Eric is going to fall into her trap.

    • 471 L
      May 24, 2010 at 7:35 pm

      Completely agree. Anyone who has seen Six Feet Under or American Beauty knows that THIS is what Alan Ball is known for.

  63. 472 sajast
    May 24, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    Lurker here with a small observation from snippets of comments I’v read. I know from reading through some comments some people are miffed with Eric’s overall attitude in this scene. (And this isn’t directed at any one comment but a mishmash.) BUT. I was recently rereading the series and I distinctly remember when Sookie and Eric first met in Fangtasia (hee!) and Sookie was asking Eric about Dawn and Maudette (sp). And Eric told Sookie “She liked pain”, referring to Dawn. Now, I’ve never been under the impression that pain was Eric’s kink but I did assume that it was DAWN’S kink and Eric entertained what Dawn wanted. And I did assume Eric was talking about sex and Eric roughed her up and didn’t just glamour her into thinking she had rough vampire sex. And yet Eric and Sookie have never, on page, entertained rough, painful sex. Because it wasn’t Sookie’s thing.

    I guess the first point I’m trying to make is Eric seems to be pretty catholic in sexual pleasure. He’ll give the woman what she wants and in the past it’s always been the same to him (the ultimate exception, I believe, was revealed in the Sookie/Eric sex scene in DAG). Maybe DOD utterly impersonal vamp sex is Yvetta’a thing. We’ve been given hints enough in the books alone that vamps aren’t really snuggle bunnies when it comes to sex and they don’t have many, if any, sexual barriers. Play tonsil hockey in front of a crowd and get someone off? Sure! No problemo! (See Club Dead healing scene). Get a blow job in front of a crowd? Absolutely! (See DUD “Suukeh is Mahn!!”). I don’t see Eric as being an *absolute* exception to this. True, I’ve always read him as being more private with his own sexual activity, but hey, he DID find a discreet location to mess around with Yvetta. But I wouldn’t see either him OR Yvetta as being OMG SOOKIE YOU NEED TO GET OUT NOW ‘CAUSE WE’RE NEKID. Ya know?

    If whatever going on between Eric and Yvetta is as unbelievably impersonal as I’m believing it is, I can’t see either Yvetta or Eric really caring that Sookie, presumably, waltzed right into the middle of something. So I guess my second point is I really don’t see this scene as being disrespectful to either Yvetta or Sookie. It’s more of a learning moment for Sookie to knock, please, before entering.

    And Eric’s pulled some lame stuff on Sookie early in the books that no one seems to give him grief over. Take your employee’s gf to an orgy as her bodyguard and then smush her on the hood of your car while he make very, very obvious passes at her? That, to me, is more disrespectful of Sookie than this ๐Ÿ˜€ But I still love him.

    And I think this post has gotten too long…

    • 473 MASpencer
      May 24, 2010 at 3:55 pm

      Totally agree! Eric is the embodiment of GGG– good, giving, and game (within reason). I’m pretty sure it will be crystal clear that Eric gave Yvetta the hottest six hours of her life.

      And we all know that Eric “doesn’t do humble” as Pam pointed out. I mean really– he’s a TOTAL sexual braggart in the books, too. (I’m too big for some? PUH-LEEZ!)

      Of course, talking yourself up is only really a problem if you can’t put your money where your mouth is. And I think it’s pretty obvious that Eric CAN. LOL.

      • 474 LLE
        May 24, 2010 at 4:53 pm

        Dawn told Jason that she had the best ever and I was thinking she was talking about Eric.

        • 475 sajast
          May 24, 2010 at 5:17 pm

          @LLE: I LOLed so very, very hard when I first noticed that in the books. I think even TB made some kind of crack about it? I sometimes wonder what would happen if Dawn came back from the dead, went to Holly & Hoyt’s wedding, and saw that Sookie and Eric have an exclusive relationship. *Snorffle*

          • 476 LLE
            May 24, 2010 at 5:24 pm

            I can see Dawn making pass at Eric and Sookie will Dawn “He my boyfriend and keep your hands off him.” Eric would Dawn that Sookie is his wife.

      • 477 sajast
        May 24, 2010 at 5:14 pm

        Yeah, Eric could learn to use some false modesty on occasion. He really does sound like an ass on occasion ;D

        I’ve always loved the GGG nature of Eric, personally.

        • 478 A Northern Soul
          May 24, 2010 at 6:05 pm

          Yeah, a little humility wouldn’t hurt, but at the same time it’s what makes
          him so endearing. Coming from a human or any other vamp it would be annoying,
          but comimg from Eric it’s so…Eric, and part of his appeal. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • 479 Feather
      May 24, 2010 at 4:09 pm

      oh my gosh, THIS. so much this. your reply must have popped up while I was still typing mine, haha.

  64. 480 KittyKat
    May 24, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    A better quality clip just surfaced.

  65. 483 Feather
    May 24, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    ok, so i slept on this one, then i read all the new comments since last night. and i still feel the same way, TBH. i don’t see what is happening here as the end of the world. i used to seperate book Eric and TB Eric like this: one is kind of a perv, and one is kind of a dick, but both are boundary pushers, and both of them are good guys deep down. Keep in mind our beloved BE had the wherewithall to pin Sookie to the hood of a car while she was someone else’s on one occasion, and he did pretty blatantly stick his hand in her undies during the healing scene in Club Dead, and so on and so forth. so, the sex in the dungeon thing doesn’t really phase me i guess. as much as I adore BE, i was never really that keen on how enthusiastic he was in his pursuit of Sook when she was still officially dating Bill.

    just because he’s with that woman in the dungeon does not mean he is harming her, or even disrespecting her. i’m friendly with more than one (happily married) couple who are into BDSM, and although it’s not my thing and i will never truly understand it, i will not judge them either. i know for a fact that no harm comes to either partner and it is something that they both really enjoy. i guess some people want to take RP to a whole new level *shrug* doesn’t make them deviants. doesn’t make Eric some depraved individual. it might have been something she wanted or even insisted on! the location, i can’t comment on. but at least they aren’t on the ground :p

    and here is how i was thinking of it before (i posted this elsewhere but it is way, way down in massive 600 comment thread)… Eric has lived a very long life mostly doing whatever it is he wants to do. and just in the span of what, 2 weeks, most of his world has been re arranged. He’s lost his maker (kind of his anchor on things, yes?), he’s been severely disrespected on multiple occassions by his subordinate (Bill), and I daresay the entire visit to QSA was a disaster for him too. so if he’s feeling a little confused about what’s going on, and perhaps angry that he is actually feeling anything at all, maybe a lil good ole fashioned freaky sex marathon will put him to rights (in his mind).

    at this stage in the book and on the show, i do not believe Eric knows Sookie well enough to actually care for her in that manner. he just wants to sleep with her. the third book brings them closer, so i expect to see them actually communicating (instead of bickering) throughout the course of this season, becoming more fond of each other. this is only the first episode. we see them later on actually appearing to smile at one another (and i think i can count on one hand the number of times that TB Eric has smiled at all) with sincerity, which i rather like. trust needs to be earned on both sides here and i believe it will be a slow process.

    if Eric had, say, called Sookie to Fangtasia and then set her up so she would have been walking in on himself and yvette’s sexcapades, well that would have been kind of a dick move. but that does not appear to be happening here.

    and this is rather unrelated to the majority of what i just wrote, but the E/S glimpses we have caught for S3 seem to show her as being the one initiating things, and i like that. she needs to be the aggressor for once.

    TL;DR : still very much excited about the show. not sure how well i communicated my thoughts up there, but hey i tried *shrug*

    • 484 sajast
      May 24, 2010 at 5:25 pm

      “at this stage in the book and on the show, i do not believe Eric knows Sookie well enough to actually care for her in that manner. he just wants to sleep with her. the third book brings them closer, so i expect to see them actually communicating (instead of bickering) throughout the course of this season, becoming more fond of each other.”

      Exactly! I’m hoping very much by the end of the season we see some real growth between Eric and Sookie, although significant bonding wouldn’t occur until the amnesia kicks in.

      And I don’t think we can fault Eric for Sookie walking in on him and fussing up a storm ;D

      • May 25, 2010 at 3:37 am

        technically (unless the 2nd-dream-was-not-a-dream theories are correct, lol), aside from telling eric that she would stay with godric, the last thing sookie actually said directly to him was that he was a big lying A-hole, and a monster. harsh words!

        they’ve got a long road ahead of them as far as becoming friends, to becoming something more, but they’ll get there eventually.

    • 486 L
      May 24, 2010 at 7:39 pm

      “at this stage in the book and on the show, i do not believe Eric knows Sookie well enough to actually care for her in that manner. he just wants to sleep with her. the third book brings them closer, so i expect to see them actually communicating (instead of bickering) throughout the course of this season, becoming more fond of each other.”


      Well said.

    • 487 EricObsessed
      May 24, 2010 at 10:41 pm

      Feather, I completely agree with you. I also am holding to the fact that we really need to see the whole scene(s) before we judge Eric. They’ve obviously left out part of this scene and the bed scene. On the whole I love it and can’t wait till the episode airs to get all the details! I really feel there is a reason they’re down there and we will have to wait till the 13th to find out. But I do love reading everyone’s theories!

      I’m really holding a lot on season 3 to kick butt, because IMO it can only go up from season 2 and so far the promos have all been very exciting! If not mind-boggling! I just feel like at the end of this season they’re going to leave us in a great place. It might be different from the books but I still am holding out hope it’ll have the same vibe if not the specifics.

      • May 25, 2010 at 3:31 am

        i only just started watching TB last fall, and I steamrolled through the books after I was 5 episodes in to Season 2, and after I finished them, I finished the season and was spectacularly confused. anyway.

        my point is, i haven’t really invested as much time into this whole fandom as many of you have, so maybe my opinion on this issue would be different if this was a character i had been reading for years and years.

        it was seeing our viking in season 1 that got me hooked into this entire thing. i enjoyed him very much in the books; i’ll admit i probably only kept reading them to see where his whole romance with sookie was headed, and to continue hearing about him.. but i can’t forget that it was the onscreen portrayal that got me interested in the first place.

        so, i suppose there is room in my heart for both c:

  66. 489 Dee
    May 24, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    Also, I know we all have very different interpretations of the books and the show but honestly this goes with what I think about book Eric. Well the part with what he is doing with Yvetta. With the other women he has been with, then this is the type of encounters I picture he would’ve been. To me thats what made E/S relationship so special in the books. It’s how much he did change for her and how Sookie was so different than any other woman. If Eric treated every woman before Sookie the same way he treated Sookie, then for me it would take away from me the effect Sookie had on his life. I pictured him being a womanizer and his sexual encounters to be very impersonal. These are the type of women I think he hooked up with. It’s the whole bad boy changing who he is for one special woman, and it further shows us how special she is if she can change a man who was set in his ways for 1000 years. Since this is the interpretation I had of Eric, then maybe why I don’t mind that much. But I think it just depends on what you previously thought of him.

    Also, like Maspencer said above, he is not parading Yvetta around in front of Sookie. He was having sex with her in private and Sookie barged in. I can bet that the last thing he expected was for Sookie to run in down there and interrupt him. I’m also sure that he would’ve avoided it if he could. I also don’t think he really has anything to be sorry about, infact, I would dislike Eric if he avoided women all together while Sookie is with Bill. This would just further show his desperation at this point in the show. I also saw his line of “even though he has what I want” as a matter of fact statement and not really flirting.

    Like I said though, everybody will have different interpretations and that is to be expected and this is why we see a difference of opinion. Doesn’t mean someone is wrong though.

    • 490 sajast
      May 24, 2010 at 5:31 pm


      There was also as scene in FDTW where Sookie called Fangtasia and Eric was “having supper” so we KNOW for a FACT he was feeding on other people, presumably women, and that he was probably having sex with them. And this was while he was still trying to court Sookie’s attention. Which I’m not faulting him for.

      I personally can’t wait to see bad boy image in TB start to change with regards to Sookie ๐Ÿ˜€ So this clip kind of makes me excited for future episodes even though I may want to slap AB in the beginning.

  67. 491 quietandclear
    May 24, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    Alright so the first couple times I watched this I was totally filled with rage haha. Eric seems far too stoic and Sookie’s being her usually bitchy-self. But leaving it alone for a little while and coming back to it, I kinda have a new perspective.
    Maybe this is me being full of crap, (and being sleep-deprived! hah) but now I’m thinking that this is the fist time Eric and Sookie have talked sense the Godric roof incident in Dallas. A time when Eric was easily his most vunerable, which Sookie witnessed, a big deal on all levels. And I remember being SO mad they didn’t do any follow up, of Eric being sad, Sookie thinking about Godric, just anything in general it was like they just chopped off that story line right when it was really getting good. So maybe this is Eric being all “I’m still a bad-ass, I fuck chicks in my dungeon” HAH! Obviously not saying he planned for her to find him down there with Yvetta, but maybe he’s trying to convince himself as much as he’s trying to convince everyone around him.
    Plus I’m thinking AB is worried that everyone has kinda figured out Bill is old news and Eric is where it’s at, so he’s trying to throw everyone off by having Eric be a sleeze in this first episode, but by the end of this season he does a total 180, because of his new feelings for Sookie. Like the opposite of what Bill’s character is gonna have happen.
    Does this sound like total crap? Right now I’m liking my thought process but then again I need some sleep real bad, so maybe when I look at it again with fresh eyes I’ll go back to being angry.

    • 492 EricObsessed
      May 24, 2010 at 10:52 pm

      Don’t be angry! I think those are good ideas especially since I think that last “dream sequence” after Godric dies wasn’t a dream, they’ve got a little history. Something that’s also confusing to Eric so he’s not going to care if she sees him with Yvetta, maybe even flaunt it because he “doesn’t like having feelings.” I can’t wait for them to develop his character more and from the promos I think that’s what’s going to happen, starting here.

      • 493 Robin
        May 24, 2010 at 11:20 pm

        Now that is something I would really like to see confirmed. Many of us, including myself, do believe that the second dream sequence, or at least part of it, really happened. They both may already have some hidden feelings for each other.

  68. 494 pennydreadful
    May 24, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    Just my opinion for what it’s worth… as human beings, we’re all individuals with diverse backgrounds, value systems, needs, and desires (not to mention wildly different definitions of happiness.) So unless the behavior in question is directly infringing upon the rights of others, why harshly condemn what other consenting adults chose to do? Like MAS and Sunny, I don’t view someone’s sexual expression as a moral barometer for his or her character. As long as he or she is responsible, honest, and safe with partners…what’s the problem? Finding fulfillment in unconventional ways doesn’t necessarily make someone “immoral.” Personally, I’m more offended by hypocrisy, deceit, and lack of consent than I am by pervy funtimes among willing adults.

    As a feminist, I’m also disappointed that in the twenty-first century we haven’t moved beyond pejoratively labeling other women who fail to conform to patriarchal sexual norms. It’s disheartening to me to see the female characters described as bitches, skanks, and sluts. As women we have it hard enough without having to turn on each other like a vicious junior high clique.

    /Rant off ๐Ÿ˜›

    • May 24, 2010 at 6:10 pm

      Pennyd, when I refer to Yvetta being a skank it has nothing to do with her choice of partners or how many partners, or what she may choose to do with a consenting adult. It has to do with the possibility of her being an creature who intends to do some evil. She may be a witch or a were or a combination of any number of supernatural beings, and maybe a spy. That’s the reason I will continue to refer to her with a pejorative term. I would use an equally pejorative term for a male in the same situation.

    • 502 MASpencer
      May 24, 2010 at 6:32 pm

      Being a fairly young member of the 21st-century generation at 30 years old, I will confess that I wore my very own skank badge with pride. And I always made sure that I was getting as much out of ALL of my encounters as my partner was– mothers, tell your daughters that if the scales aren’t weighing even, it’s never too late to pack your shit up and GTFO.

      Anyway, my awesome husband (who was no boy scout himself) knew exactly where I stood on these matters when we first got together. And I dare say that’s part of the reason he married me– both of us came into the bedroom with guns ablazing. LOL.

      Being a lady is overrated. Just sayin’. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • 503 Lotus
        May 24, 2010 at 7:42 pm

        This made me laugh because it is pretty much a description of my early single life. There is so much pressure on women to “behave properly”, while men go out and sleep with multiple partners and somehow get a handshake and a knowing grin for their efforts. Me and my husband, when we were younger, had a great time together, getting freaky without worrying about a relationship or trying to define what we were doing or making emotional declarations simply because we sometimes shared a roll in the hay together. Funny thing is that I ended up marrying him ten years later after a long period of separation, so he knew exactly what he was getting into. ๐Ÿ˜‰

        Women should feel empowered by sex, not ashamed of it. If they are into kink or if they like only the missionary position, they shouldn’t have to worry about being judged because of their preferences. Just stay safe and make responsible decisions, and if they are being disrespected or are unsatisfied, then leave.

        I don’t care for Yvetta. I’m pretty sure she’s going to be a duplicitous, underhanded character by the end of it all, and I will definitely judge her for that. But I won’t judge her based on how she lives her sexual life, because why would I when I’m not judging Jason for sleeping with almost everyone in a tri-state area?

        • May 25, 2010 at 12:40 am

          Lotus: totally agree with you on this point : Women should feel empowered by sex, not ashamed of it. I am totally going to tell my daughter that experimenting it’s a negative. i dont want either of my kids to get married to the first guy/girl they have sex with. It’s not possible to know your self well enough to base all future relationships on one person (JMO). I’m glad i didn’t fall into the first boyfriend = true love trap. Sexual experimentation is great and i for one want to make sure that my daughter will get everything she can out of the mind blowing experience that you can have. That what pisses me off with the BL: First love doesn’t always mean the best love.

    • 505 pennydreadful
      May 24, 2010 at 6:34 pm

      Bobsgran and Kathy- I hope that my comment didn’t offend either of you because what I was trying to express wasn’t directed at anyone personally but merely speaking of some fans’ opinions in general. (For example, I was both shocked and appalled on another site when someone suggested that Sookie “had it coming” when she was nearly raped and drained by Malcom and the gang because of the way she was dressed.)

      Also, I agree…Yvetta is up to some kind of scheming machination and I can’t wait to discover exactly what her devious plans are ๐Ÿ™‚

      • 506 MASpencer
        May 24, 2010 at 6:38 pm

        Oh, don’t get me started on THAT. Anyone who calls SOOKIE a whore– and SO MANY PEOPLE DO– needs to get their head checked. It’s shameful and appalling.

        Anyway, everyone knows that Sookie’s NOT a whore. She’s just a cocktease. LOL. ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • 507 Ashley
          May 24, 2010 at 6:51 pm

          Yeah what i hear the most is actually “well if Sookie does anything with Eric shes a skank”. LOL. Or “How could Sookie cheat on Bill?” I dont get it. In other words, Bill is the only guy Sookie can ever have sexual contact with, or else shes a “whore”. LMAO.

          • 508 Lotus
            May 24, 2010 at 7:46 pm

            Yes. It’s an extremely antiquated idea that a woman who has had more than one partner is a dirty slut. I think people who use that logic are deluded by this ideal of “romantic love” and don’t try to understand how the human body/mind/heart actually work in real life.

        • May 24, 2010 at 6:52 pm

          I find that disheartening, calling Sookie a whore. It just proves that there is still a lot of education needed as far as Femaleness (?) is concerned. Geez MAS, you must be 1/2 my age. I was happily married before Woodstock. .I was lucky, hubby was a feminist too.

          • 510 Kathy
            May 24, 2010 at 7:21 pm

            I know. It’s so stupid! They’re just sticking up for their St. Bill!

          • 516 Janofarc
            May 24, 2010 at 8:06 pm

            I don’t think I’ve heard anyone who isn’t a Bill lover say that Sookie is a whore. I think it’s a group of women (? Not sure are there ANY male Bill fans?) who have this idea that Sookie is a romantic heroine and as such should stay with the man who took her virginity til the end of her days.

            Newsflash! Sookie IS NOT a romantic heroine in a Mills & Boon book, she’s a character who is pulled into a supernatural world which is heavy on expressing sexuality – why should she be the only one in that world to abide by a strict victorian moral code?

            Anyway back on topic. The reason this clip annoyed me wasn’t because of what Eric was doing, or even where he was doing it, it was that AB has taken away something about the books that I thought was significant. I felt it was purposeful on CH’s part that Sookie wasn’t exposed to Eric’s dalliances (this applies to Quinn too). The only time she SEE’S him with another woman is Ginger after LS was staked and the waitress was thrown at him to prevent him from going after Sookie in bloodlust, he’s even looking at Sookie as he’s about to bite.

            All other suitors have been shown in sexual situations with other women, Sam has had the Maenad and his new g/f, Alcide has had every fertile female in his pack probably and Bill had the donor in Dallas, Lorena and Selah. I just saw that as an important part of the HEA theories.

            • 517 Liz
              May 24, 2010 at 8:12 pm

              me too, that is the one part of this situation i dont like. We all speculated, but we never had to see it, and i am sure that was intentional on CH’s part.

      • 518 Ashley
        May 24, 2010 at 6:47 pm

        OMG…someone actually said she “had it coming”!! WTF? That is really messed up. She was wearing shorts and a tank top. Even if she was walking around in her underwear, that doesnt mean she has it coming. I dont care what she dresses like, that is just a sick thing to say.

  69. 520 ellemoe
    May 24, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    Watching it again, it doesn’t look like the same area where Laffy was held. Whatever the female in the back is strapped to looks completely different from the wheel Laffy and others were attached to. Plus, she looks so far away that I doubt she can hear what’s being sad anyway. Doesn’t appear to be anything strenuous going on but who knows. I can hear the music from upstairs being pumped down which is different from Laffy being down there and not hearing anything from upstairs. So, it could be a different area. I’m curious to see what the entire clip holds. May not be as bad as it looks. Eric is definitely taking a jab at Bill with his comment though. His remark to Sookie about wanting her is said in a different tone and after a slight pause (maybe reflection) than his previous comments. I think it is meant to be heartfelt and to get her reaction. I think he gave her something to think about and it’s clear by her expression that it did give her something to think about.

  70. 521 Liz
    May 24, 2010 at 8:02 pm


    here are some older pictures of the DOD, and an interview about the making of it, it does appear to have been cleaned up measurably.

    I suppose im not shocked by DOD torture, or sex, because when i read the books, i felt that this sort of thing was hinted at over and over again as a possibility. Clearly everyones imagination will come up with different scenarios as to why Eric was so feared, and had such a reputation.

  71. 522 Dee
    May 24, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    Do you think Eric noticed the ring on Sookie’s finger? We see he looks down when he says “even though I do want what is his” we assume he just looks at her breast but could he possibly have even seen the ring? I’d think he’d say something about it but not sure.

    • 523 Ashley
      May 25, 2010 at 2:02 am

      I didnt get the impression he was looking at her breasts. I got the impression that he was just admiring her. It didnt look leery to me, as some other people seem to think. I thought it was respectful appreciation. And i bet he noticed the ring, as hes very observant.

  72. 524 Dee
    May 24, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    NEWSFLASH****** Season 3 episode 12 casting call

    Episode 312, “Evil is Going On”
    Director: Anthony Hemingway
    Writer: Alan Ball
    Start Date: Approx. 6/9/2010

    [AGENT MITCH COBURN] 40-50s, chiseled and confident, a military type, the very picture of American heroism. He’s a DEA Agent sent to oversee a massive drug raid. Guest Star.

    [MR. RAKESTRAW] 40s, awkward looking. He was Hoyt’s high school guidance counselor. 1 speech, 3 lines, 1 scene.


    source: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0844441/boa … /16358412

    I need to find out what happened to ep 11

    • 525 MASpencer
      May 24, 2010 at 10:33 pm

      Yeah… what about the 3×11 announcement? Too spoilery for public consumption?? Or no new casting calls?

      • 526 Dee
        May 24, 2010 at 10:37 pm

        Yeah I think maybe no casting call for that episode since these are just the casting calls. That’s what the person who posted this casting call said might be the reason.

  73. 527 Dee
    May 24, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    and here are the lyrics to a song called “evil is going on” by Monster Magnet

    You’re a long way from home
    And you can’t sleep at night
    Grab your telephone
    Now something ain’t right
    And that’s evil
    Going home baby
    I said I’m warning you brothers
    You’d better watch your happy home

    Long way from home
    And you can’t sleep at night
    Feels like another mule’s kickin’ in my stall
    And that’s evil
    Going out baby
    I said I’m warning you brothers
    You’d better watch your happy home
    Watch your happy
    Watch your happy, happy home

    You’re a long way from home
    And you can’t sleep at night
    Feels like another mule’s kickin’ in my stall
    And that’s evil
    Going home baby
    I said I’m warning you brothers
    You’d better watch your happy home
    Watch your happy
    Watch your happy, happy home

    Evil yeah
    Evil right
    Evil yeah
    Evil now

  74. 528 Lotus
    May 25, 2010 at 1:42 am

    Okay, I just watched the clip more closely, and it’s not easy to tell where her hands are placed though I believe they are clasped in front of her body, but is anyone else of the opinion that Eric may be glancing at the ring when his eyes fall? Because he looks down and lingers before taking that brief, second glance. There is something about his expression that makes me believe that while AB wants the audience to think he is visually undressing Sookie’s cleavage, he is actually taking note of the new piece of jewelry she’s wearing.

    Of course, he could have done both simultaneously. The Viking is a good multi-tasker. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • May 25, 2010 at 1:52 am

      Wow that is a great look at the scenes. And yes i don’t think the Eric wouldn’t notice that big old diamond on her finger. I wonder when it will come out that she is engaged to Beel. She has the ring on in the scenes with the Were at her house doesn’t she???

      • 530 Lotus
        May 25, 2010 at 2:16 am

        She does. When she’s holding the gun it’s front and center. Surely he would have seen the ring by that point, but I’m wondering if he didn’t catch it immediately. Sookie is obviously dressed for a special occasion …

        • May 25, 2010 at 2:18 am

          If he didn’t notice it then he is a shit Sheriff and needs to be fired. And the fact that he is a vampire and he should be able to multi-task then it shouldn’t past his notice

          • 532 Lotus
            May 25, 2010 at 2:27 am

            I agree. This is only a theory and maybe we’ll know more when the show actually airs, but there is something about his face and the way he pauses that made me realize it may not be so clear after all.

    • 533 Dee
      May 25, 2010 at 2:57 am

      Exactly what I think too, it looks like he might have noticed the ring.

  75. 534 Robin
    May 25, 2010 at 11:59 am

    New thoughts on what takes place in Alcide’s apartment between Sookie and Eric. We know that Sookie receives a call from Bill telling her that he does not wish to be found, to not look for him. We also know that Eric shows up later that evening, and we get the kiss and “want more” scene on the bed. I think Sookie will tell Eric about the conversation with Bill, and that is when Eric tells Sookie that he has to find Bill. I think the whole scene between Sophie Anne and Eric at Fangtasia is about her threatening Eric over Bill being kidnapped and that he better find and rescue him. So, with Bill’s telephone call asking Sookie not to come after him, the tables have now turned, and Eric is the one asking Sookie for help in locating Bill to save his skin from Sophie Anne. She is going to help Eric out, kind of like she did in the books. Sound logical?

    • May 25, 2010 at 12:30 pm

      Robin, I like that. It might also explain….Want more?… Eric being concerned if she can handle the weres. Also there is that teensy bit of her dressed in black wig and leathers(?). She is dressed for her second foray into Lou Pines, maybe? Just a guess.

      • May 25, 2010 at 12:40 pm

        If that is Sookie in the dark hair and sexy outfit? Hard to see.

      • 539 Robin
        May 25, 2010 at 1:00 pm

        Yes, I think she is role playing to show him that she can handle herself, but the attraction is definitely there on both parts. Also, you notice she is down to her underwear, just like she was in Russell’s mansion in Club Dead? I wonder where the “want more” scene is going to lead? Maybe they are interrupted by Alcide? And, by Sookie helping Eric recover Bill, there is more trust built between them. So, if it happens as I think it may, it actually is not too far off from the books.

      • 540 Lotus
        May 25, 2010 at 1:38 pm

        I’m wondering if it’s a second visit, a third visit, or an undercover scenario elsewhere? In one of the promos we see her in LP’s with the lace top and blue jean skirt, then later we see a brief clip of her screaming during a struggle with the Swayze were, also at LP’s but in a different outfit. So I’m wondering if the black wig outfit is for something we don’t know about yet?

        • 541 Serena
          May 25, 2010 at 2:18 pm

          The black wig outfit is her second visit to LP’s, because in the first clip Sookie feels she is not dressed properly (so I think Janice is going to help her get an outfit for a disguise and that’s how we meet her). If you watch the second promo again, there is a spliced scene of the second night. Let me dissect it like this:

          At the 1:20 mark you see Sookie in the white outfit. 1st Night LP.
          At the 1:22 mark you see Sookie in the black outfit. 2nd Night LP.
          (She is standing in the center with her back to us).

          I know this is spliced because if you keep your eye on the waitress, at the 1:20 mark she is an African American woman with curly hair, but she turns into at the 1:22 mark a Caucasian man-woman with red hair, so its a completely different scene.

          Then it goes back to Sookie in white outfit. 1st Night LP.

          As for when she is with the Were, she seems to have a different outfit, but I think that she has taken off the white lace top. In one clip you can see it in her arms, she still has 1st Night LP hair with the headband. (I think the Were is checking her for a brand on her back, we see Debbie getting a branding, and this may be how the Weres tell who is from what pack).

          Later in that promo, you see Alcide nearly bite her head off, she is dressed for 2nd Night LP.

          (I hear VL’s keyboard in the distance…too OT, too OT,.. sorry VL).

          • 542 Serena
            May 25, 2010 at 2:43 pm

            As a matter of fact, the Were must be checking Sookie for a brand, why else would Alcide let her go with him, unless he knew she would not get into trouble?

            I hope that clears things up, ๐Ÿ™‚

            • 543 Serena
              May 25, 2010 at 3:03 pm

              This also reinforces the idea that Sookie will volunteer to be branded. If she knows they check brands, she will understand what an impediment it is in her getting closer to the Weres and how much easier things would be if she had one.

              • 544 sunnynala
                May 25, 2010 at 3:13 pm

                I’m not saying you’re wrong, but this idea of Sookie voluntarily BRANDING herself, ie mutilating herself, for Bill’s sake just makes me want to puke.

                • 545 Serena
                  May 25, 2010 at 3:16 pm

                  I know but it leaves the door open that Eric will heal her, ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  • 546 sunnynala
                    May 25, 2010 at 3:28 pm

                    Oh sure, that part would be awesome.

                    My problem is, Sookie has already given up her brains, her autonomy, her virginity, and her very blood for Bill, she might as well go all the way and brand herself. ::rolleyes:: Symbolically, it’s like she is declaring that Bill actually OWNS her like a slave or a cow. JFC.

                    • 547 Robin
                      May 25, 2010 at 3:36 pm

                      Based on my theory above, that she continues with trying to rescue Bill, not for herself or Bill (after receiving his phone call), but to help Eric with Sophie Anne, maybe Eric will see the branding as a sacrifice to herself that she makes on Eric’s behalf earning his trust. This experience will bond them closer together.

                    • 548 Serena
                      May 25, 2010 at 4:25 pm

                      Well up until this point hasn’t minded the ownership. They are taking her naivete up a notch, and I actually like it. It will just emphasize Bill’s fall from grace even more, because of the depths Sookie will have gone for him.

                    • 549 millarca21
                      May 25, 2010 at 9:40 pm

                      And this “no-one owns me; I am my own woman” Sookie. I hate the idea of her volunteering to be branded for Bill’s sake.

              • 550 Robin
                May 25, 2010 at 3:17 pm

                Sookie being branded would be a hell of a scene to watch! But Maybe Eric will give her his blood to heal where she has been branded? But wouldn’t they know she wasn’t a Were?

                • 551 Serena
                  May 25, 2010 at 4:33 pm

                  Thats the question isn’t it? How can they force her into a change to find out if she is a Were? Do they brand every strange chick in the bar who wants it? I don’t know.

                  I did say ‘volunteer’ for a reason though, Sookie is trying to get noticed by Russell on stage and whether the branding actually happens, we’ll obvi. have to wait to find out, but I think thats what Sookie’s intentions are.

            • 552 RubySun
              May 25, 2010 at 3:14 pm

              Which clip are you all watching where you think Sookie is dressed up with a wig? I can’t seem to find it. THX!

              • 553 sunnynala
                May 25, 2010 at 3:35 pm

                Ruby, it’s in a brief flash in the end credits of the “Resurrecting Season 2” video.

  76. 554 Lo
    May 25, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    I hope my comments aren’t taken the wrong way.ย 

    Firstly, I don’t see what the big deal about having sex down there is. We don’t even know if is indeed the DOD, or if there’s another room in there or not. If Yvetta wants to be tied up and ravaged by a hot viking, more power to her. I don’t see him as hitting on Sookie, I think he’s just merely stating a fact, which to me, is very BE. I also don’t think he did anything wrong by going to talk to her with Yvetta still tied up because odds are, Sookie barged in. She saw what they were doing and didn’t leave. I don’t see him as objectifying anyone. Like someone said, he could be glancing at her ring, not ogling her.
    ย ย 

    As for AB ruining Eric, I think I’ve done a fairly good job of seperating BE from TBE. The Eric we see in the books is only what Sookie allows us to see, but we know that he’s a manwhore. And we can assume that he’s tortured people. And yes, it does suck that we didn’t get the orgy scene, but for that to have happened, Lafayette had to die and I like his character. I don’t mind him staying alive. To me, AB hasn’t strayed too far from the character of Eric. Maybe I am not overanalyzing everything enough, who knows.ย 

    • 555 LLE
      May 25, 2010 at 2:42 pm

      Good post and I agree with you.

    • 556 Kathy
      May 25, 2010 at 2:48 pm

      See that’s the thing. I don’t think Laffy had to die to have the orgy at the end but it would have had to be someone he knew. He could have been accused of murder and Sookie could have been trying to help him out by going there. And I’ve posted this other places before, but AB could have stuck to the story and STILL fleshed out what the characters were doing while Sookie/Bill/Eric were in Dallas. As follows:

      Sam has an affair with the maenad, Tara still has feelings for Sam and acts out by hooking up with Eggs, who begins taking her to these local orgies.

      Andy & Bud start investigating this “murder.” Laffy eventually get’s thrown in jail when whoever gets killed if is finally connected to Laffy. We’ll keep the Jason with the FOTS storyline, that didn’t disrupt anything. Sookie comes back from Dallas and finds Laffy’s in jail, goes to talk to him and learns about the orgies. Bill is still in Dallas (because he actually DID kill a bunch of FOTS and has to deal with the cover up). Sookie asks Eric to come with her, we get the pink spandex, and everything that happened at the end of the books happens. There’s your season two.

      Also, and most definitely there was no need to change how the Sookie/maenad thing went down or who was really responsible for getting Dr. Ludwig, or how Sookie was cured. So we could have had that great Eric/Sookie exchange and she would have ended up in Eric’s white shirt, which I LOVED btw.

      The reason I can’t separate TB Eric and Book Eric, is that Book Eric is my favorite character. I’m watching the show because I love that character. It will always always aggravate me that I don’t get to see my favorite viking come to life. As I said before it was like watching Tom Cruise play Lestat. Sorry couldn’t forget Lestat should have been played by Jullian Sand and Daniel Day Lewis should have played Louis.

      • 557 VikingLover
        May 25, 2010 at 4:48 pm

        {The reason I canโ€™t separate TB Eric and Book Eric, is that Book Eric is my favorite character. Iโ€™m watching the show because I love that character.}

        I understand what you’re saying but at this point it is clear that TB Eric is somewhat different than Book Eric. I understand that you love Book Eric but now, 3 seasons in, it’s time to try to separate them because otherwise you’re going to be very unhappy with the rest of the show. I do believe that TB Eric will evolve and I do believe that Book Eric is in him, but he will always be portrayed slightly differently than he is in the books. The same thing goes for the storylines. They will never be exactly the same as the book because this is an adaptation shown from another viewpoint. I do think that AB is sticking to the spirit of the books but he is telling an alternate version of the story. I definitely respect your viewpoint but I just don’t want you be unhappy. TB is a really fun show to watch once you can separate the two. I hope one day you can because then you’ll love TB Eric too!

        • 558 Robin
          May 25, 2010 at 4:58 pm

          This is such a true statement, VL. You really have to keep them separate in your mind, or you will not be able to enjoy the show. Enjoy both for what they are.

          • 559 Kathy
            May 25, 2010 at 5:42 pm

            Right. But I like the characters in the books. I don’t like the characters on the show. Sookie is weak, Bill is annoying, Eric is woodenan with no sense of humor (except in eppy 8 & 9), Tara pathetic. Sam and Jason, okay, I like them. Laffy I can take or leave. I liked the characters in S1 and have watched it over and over. Season 2, I’ve watched the two episodes I like several times but the the others I never went back to. When I go to the screening next week it will be the second time I see the S2 finale. The only reason I’m going is for the the Q&A and to see what they’re going to show us in S3.

            Like I said, I will give S3 a few episodes, but if I continue not to like or care about the characters, I’m picking up the books again and walking away.

        • May 25, 2010 at 10:40 pm

          Well said VL.

          We could just have fun watching TrueBlood AND reading the books, like two separate universes.
          Every character is slightly different from the books but I think the core remains the same. The minor charas, moreover, are excellent in TB.
          And I am happy that TB is not following the books’ plot. I wouldn’t be so curious if it was otherwise. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • 561 Freyja
            May 25, 2010 at 11:00 pm

            Yes I like the characters in TB as much as I like them in the books. It’s a slightly different plot but that makes it more interesting, because you cant predict whats coming next.

          • 562 millarca21
            May 25, 2010 at 11:05 pm

            The fact TB is not just a dramatisation of the books makes the show more interesting, I think. As long as the core remains the same, and as long as there is a general movement towards the Sookie/Eric relationship, I don’t think I’ll care too much if the details aren’t the same. I was very pleased by the Godric storyline, and I love Lafayette. When I hear “Bad Things” my mind gets ready for the TV show, not the book, and I enjoy the TV show for a number of reasons.

  77. 564 sunnynala
    May 25, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    Hey guys, sorry this is OT but I just asked Jace over at Televisionary when we could expect his review of the first three eps and he said Friday! Yay!


  78. 567 sunnynala
    May 25, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Someone put this up at TB Facebook but I can’t get it to play:


    • 568 sunnynala
      May 25, 2010 at 4:05 pm

      nvm, it’s playing.

      • 569 pennydreadful
        May 25, 2010 at 4:39 pm

        One thing that immediately sprung to mind as I watched the minisode was that the markup on jewelry is rather high (on average 400%-500%.) The woman mentioned that she would get in trouble for selling Bill the ring at cost, which indicates that she’s obviously an employee. At the very least, this poor woman is going to lose her job or end up owing her boss thousands of dollars on this deal. Ever the grifter, Bill isn’t above cheating a lonely old widow. I think the line about “I’m a one woman man” was merely a set-up for the con job to justify ripping off Mrs. Smallwood. If killing her and simply taking the ring wouldn’t have attracted any unwanted attention from the police, you can bet your britches Bill would have done it.

        • 570 sunnynala
          May 25, 2010 at 4:45 pm

          Yeah, he tells her it’s “appropriate” she should get into trouble, presumably because she was ‘objectifying’ him. meanwhile he’s sitting there with his robe wide open.

          And before anyone says it, remember Bill was expecting this woman. She didn’t barge into his private time unannounced.

    • 576 MASpencer
      May 25, 2010 at 4:17 pm

      Barf. I give up on this show. LOL.

      • 577 MASpencer
        May 25, 2010 at 4:22 pm

        But I will say that the “one-woman-man” bit was probably ironic foreshadowing. Bill is totally going to cheat on Sookie this season.

        Either that, or I will have to suffer through yet another season of Bill Compton carrying on like Edward Cullen for the adult set. GAG.

      • 579 sunnynala
        May 25, 2010 at 4:54 pm

        Well honestly, if I have to sit through another season of having Bill’s fake ‘nobility’ shoved down my throat I might give up as well. I still think TB is a mind-fuck and almost nothing we see is accurate but we’re going to have to start getting pay-offs this season or it’s really not worth it.

        I mean, think about it. If the maenad killing was a false narrative, that is a fascinating fact in itself from a film-theory standpoint. BUT, which is actually better television: the horrible, boring, nonsensical mess we saw, or Eric-as-Dionysus flying in from the sky, totally naked, fucking MA, and then devouring her???

        I ask you, how long can we take the boring falsehoods over the exciting alternative realities before we give up in disgust?

        • 580 pennydreadful
          May 25, 2010 at 5:02 pm

          Keep in mind that’s he’s lying through his teeth to Mrs. Smallwood. Is Bill a one human vampire? Hardly…let’s think back to everyone he’s fed on (or attempted to):
          The Rattrays, Jerry, Uncle Barlett, Jessica, the young man from QSA’s blood slave harem…

        • 581 Robin
          May 25, 2010 at 5:03 pm

          Well now, Sunny, that version is a little more detailed than what you posted on your blog. Can you imagine what Sookie must have thought?!

        • 582 Lkc
          May 25, 2010 at 5:05 pm

          I am giving it half a season. If no answers by then that make sense than I am done with TB. Sunny-no pressure or anything but I am pinning ALL my hopes on you and your theories!

        • 583 Kathy
          May 25, 2010 at 5:30 pm

          I fear you will be disappointed Sunny and will be walking away from the show as I will.

    • 584 VikingLover - Moderator
      May 25, 2010 at 4:35 pm

      Thanks Sunny. Guys, please hold off on posting comments re the new Bill minisode. SVB will create a new post for it. Thanks!

  79. 585 Dee
    May 25, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    I knew not to expect anything too interesting to come out of these minisodes. Ok well guess we know now where, Bill, got the ring.

    • 586 sunnynala
      May 25, 2010 at 4:19 pm

      THE most disappointing mini so far.

      • 587 Kathy
        May 25, 2010 at 4:26 pm

        Ewww. Just eww. Even though I knew it was going to be how it got the ring, I thought we’d get a little more insight. Did the woman have to be so embarrassing? The minute she said her name I knew what the joke was going to be.

        Now the BL’s are going to be squeeing all over the place. Bill is loyal, Bill is kind, Bill is a one woman man, Bill loves Suuuukkkehhh! The least he could have done was offer her to Jessica! LOL!

      • May 25, 2010 at 4:28 pm

        I can’t help it. I’m peeing myself laughing at the ring promo. That’s going to be good for the whole day. Hahahahahahahahahaha.

    • 594 Ashley
      May 25, 2010 at 4:26 pm

      Yeah i pretty much thought it would suck. The only two good ones were the Eric and Pam one and the one with dumb Sookie having no clue where Bill gets his money. Well, at least we get to see that st. Bill isnt above glamouring humans to get what he wants.

      • 595 Serena
        May 25, 2010 at 4:37 pm

        But why didn’t he say you’ll give to me for free instead of ‘at cost?’ He’s supposedly noble even in his thievery? Gag.

        • 596 LLE
          May 25, 2010 at 4:42 pm

          Bill rob the sales lady and that was his plan. That how vampires get their stuff.

        • 597 Ashley
          May 25, 2010 at 5:58 pm

          Well he made her sell it to him at cost, so the store would make no profit, and she could get fired because there would be money missing. So i dont see it as noble. LMAO Bills a cheapskate.

  80. 598 VampirePamsGirl
    May 25, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    Holy crap! I knew I was gonna miss a lot of stuff while I was on vacay, but DAMN! Hot naked Viking! And I loved his little crack about Bill’s stamina as well. All the other promos have been pretty good too but I’m kinda getting tired of promos and stuff. I guess I’m just ready for the real thing now. Patience is not one of my virtues, lol.

    And can I just take a moment to say WOW! to the number of comments on a few of these posts! More than 500 comments, just Wow. I gotta say good call SVB on bringing in VL as a mod, looks like the extra help has already been much needed. I’m almost kinda scared to see what it’s gonna look like around here on June 13th.

    I love the growth but I also kinda hate it because there is no way that I will be able to read all the comments without spending about 24 hrs or more doing just that, but I’m definitely looking forward to jumping back into the madness this week! Missed you all!

  81. 599 Jo
    May 25, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Guys, you really still expect something useful and enlightening in these minisodes?
    The Eric and Pam was just fun, the only one who even brought a small development of history was the Sookie / Laffa / Tara
    But all, as one article I read last week, look like they were remnants of what remains of the film’s editing room, nothing really important
    And yes I still think we’ll have to swallow much of Saint Bill this season, that is, each revelation that you will have a scene of “redeeming” to keep it in play. And think crying, screaming and tormented moments of Bill.

  82. 600 Freyja
    May 25, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Hey you guys, have you seen this?
    Our Skarsgรฅrd is being noticed. I like that he says that the writers and AB are open to ideas if the actors have suggestions.

  83. 602 lala
    May 25, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    I can’t see Yvetta chained in the basement in that clip, so I will take y’alls word for it.

  84. 603 Dee
    May 25, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    Lala-I can’t see her either, all I see is what looks like an arm lol

  85. May 25, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    Thanks Aposmeal I am waiting for this to go on YT so I can make a new post.

    Once again (and this is addressed to everyone) please DON’T post these new links on an OT post.

    I guess I will have to put all comments containing links into moderation. How fucking annoying. I’ve asked nicely SO many times about this, as has VL. This is a blog – it is not a forum.

    It is the ONLY rule I have here and it seems alot of people are having trouble understanding it. And I’m getting pissed off.

    • 606 Gigi
      May 25, 2010 at 9:15 pm

      Tina, please, check your mail.

    • 607 Kathy
      May 25, 2010 at 9:30 pm

      Is there an email to alert you when something new pops up? I clicked all over the blog before I posted that one link and couldn’t find one. Won’t do it again. Sorry!

      • May 25, 2010 at 11:12 pm

        You can sign up for email alerts with the button over in the right hand side menu.

        Honestly guys, I am not trying to be a killjoy here.

        But you all know that if there is a new minisode, there will be a new post. No, I hadn’t posted it yet when you guys put up the link – because I’m not sitting on the computer every waking hour. But I *am* on and off all day and I *will* get a post up. It may not be the very second it happens, but it will be up within a few hours at most, I promise.

        There is a reason I am asking you not to do this (and as I said in my brainfart, both VL and I have asked nicely many times) and it is this: this post (and many others lately) now has over 600 comments. While it’s wonderful there is such vigorous conversation happening, when posts get this long there HAS to be some sort of effort to keep them on topic. Allowing everyone to post whatever they like, where ever they like just makes everything even harder to navigate.

        And then when I do get the post up – we end up with discussion going on in two different threads about the same thing.

        I’m sorry to go off my nut about this. But it’s been raised numerous times in the last two weeks by nice SVB and no one was listening ๐Ÿ˜‰

  86. 609 Aposmeal
    May 25, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    My apologies I won’t do it again

  87. 610 Freyja
    May 26, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Found this on tangler.com


    “Deliciously funny, crazy scary and genuinely heart-breaking — the first three episodes feature some of the most amazing acting, cHaracter introductions and dialogue the show Has ever served up.
    one of this season’s major themes: Eric & Sookie’s emotional tug-of-war.”

  88. 611 Cheyma
    May 27, 2010 at 12:55 am

    That teaser sure does tease.
    Why do you think it’s less and less Eric? I think he’s so Eric-like.

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