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Sophie-Anne – Crazy Day Walker?

I’ve recently been listening to the audio-commentaries on the newly released Season 2 DVD.

Alan Ball, Daniel Minahan (Director) and Rutina Wesley provide the commentary for Episode 11, Frenzy.

This being the episode in which Sophie-Anne is introduced Ball and Minahan had a bit to say about her character, and where she might be headed in season 3. While he never gives much away, Ball’s overall characterization of Sophie Anne seems to be quite different to the queen we know from the books.

And that has me wondering – do we need to reconsider the basis of some of our speculations on her future role?

Here are a few tidbits from the commentary:

On the dioramas in the Queens dayroom:

BALL – We put these dioramas in front of the windows because the Queen has a fetish for acting as if she can still walk during the day. Which is something that will be further explored and explained in S3.

He then goes on to say that the costume designer’s choice to dress QSA in white works well with where they plan to go with her “obsession with light and sunlight”.

Is it possible Sophie-Anne was turned against her will and isn’t happy about being a vampire?
Shit, does that sound like anyone we know?

Bitch, you is crazy. You know it. I know it. And I need to leave, RIGHT NOW.

BALL (on SA) – this is the introduction of a character that will end up having a major impact on Sookie’s life.
I wanted to introduce her in this slow quiet way as opposed to being a crazy freak. Because believe me, she will be a crazy freak at some point.

This isn’t the first time Ball has referred to Sophie-Anne as crazy.

It is also mentioned that Sophie-Anne’s line “I do look forward to meeting her” – was an improvisation from Evan Rachel Wood.

On Hadley:

MINAHAN: Hadley is an interesting character. We really tried to show her interest when they mentioned Sookie in this scene because it’s going to figure in later on.
BALL: Because she’s Sookie’s cousin…she’s an interesting character. There are things about her we will find out.

Book QSA is ruthless, cunning, extremely intelligent and always three steps ahead of everyone else. I guess alot of us have tended to attribute the same qualities to her on True Blood, even though we haven’t really seen how this queen fits into the overall power structure or how she interacts with the vampires within it.

Is she actually an unpredictable rogue who acts on instinct, rather than with calculated planning? How did she become queen, anyway? Watching the scenes between QSA, Bill and Eric again after viewing this commentary, I am struck by how both Bill and Eric seem to be barely tolerating her – humouring her, in fact. TB Sophie-Anne is only around 500 years old – significantly younger than the queen in the books. Could she be more impulsive than the QSA we know, and how might that play out in season 3…particularly in view of the fact that it seems inevitable her drug dealing is going to get not only her, but probably Eric and Pam into big trouble with the Magister?

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214 Responses to “Sophie-Anne – Crazy Day Walker?”


  1. 1 millarca21
    May 28, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    I wonder if Sophie-Anne was sky fae before she was turned. Is it possible she’s related to Sookie & Hadley?

    • 2 MASpencer
      May 28, 2010 at 2:52 pm

      Well THAT would be a giant mindfuck. LOL!

    • 4 Robin
      May 28, 2010 at 2:59 pm

      Yeah, but do you really think that AB will go with the “sky fae” storyline from the books?

      • May 31, 2010 at 1:38 am

        Now I’m wondering if this doesn’t have to do with Gnostic mythology. Sophia was the Goddess of Wisdom. She was a spirit of light who fell into darkness, in some versions because of her own nature, in others because of an error on her part.

        If SA is sky fae, AB could be playing on this story. This could be really interesting because the Gnostic mythology is 180 from orthodox Christianity. They believed the Snake in the Garden of Eden was the hero of the story.

        Those of you who read my blog, know that I think AB is identifying Eric with Jesus and Bill with the Snake in the Garden. AB could be setting up TB so that viewers can see both the Orthodox allegory and the Gnostic one when TB plays out. The BL’s would believe he was the hero of the piece while the EL’s believe the same of Eric.

        • 6 MASpencer
          May 31, 2010 at 9:10 pm

          [AB could be setting up TB so that viewers can see both the Orthodox allegory and the Gnostic one when TB plays out. The BL’s would believe he was the hero of the piece while the EL’s believe the same of Eric.]

          Really awesome observation Renee.

          I think that, whether these specific allegories are intended or not, the point still stands that Alan Ball is telling this story in such a way as to invite vastly different dual interpretations. This is a meaningful statement, as it speaks to the heart of our human social struggles on both a personal and political level: As naturally subjective creatures, we can never seem to agree on the FACTS. And maybe that’s because there are no facts. Maybe Sophie-Anne was right when she said: “Everything that exists imagined itself into existence.”

          We see what we want to see. And that forms the basis of our “reality” as we know it.

          • May 31, 2010 at 11:19 pm

            I couldn’t figure out why AB was being so orthodox and respectful with the Christian allegory in a vehicle that is obviously po-mo. Adding the Gnostic myth makes perfect sense of it. Is Bill the hero or the villain? Yes. The good news is that as the Gnostic hero, he should die in the end. They wanted to be released from the prison of the material world. K. Bye, bye Bill & SA.

            • 8 Robin
              June 1, 2010 at 12:45 am

              [Those of you who read my blog, know that I think AB is identifying Eric with Jesus and Bill with the Snake in the Garden. AB could be setting up TB so that viewers can see both the Orthodox allegory and the Gnostic one when TB plays out. The BL’s would believe he was the hero of the piece while the EL’s believe the same of Eric.]

              If you are a person that is familiar with Christianty, it should be easy to notice, especially during season 2, that AB has identified Eric with Jesus, Godric with God. It is especially obvious in the scenes that take place at the FOTS church. And, really, the picture of the Last Supper hanging on the wall over the bar at Fangtasia is very symbolic. I also find it interesting in the season 3 poster which appears to be a Garden of Eden type setting that there is a gigantic snake hovering by Bill and Sookie, while Bill appears to be holding Sookie down.

              Renee, thank you for expressing your thoughts on this. I agree that both Bill and Eric are identified as heros depending on which camp you are in, so your thoughts on both the Gnostic hero and Orthodix hero make sense.

    • 9 MASpencer
      May 31, 2010 at 8:58 pm

      Okay, so at first I thought this was totally bananas, but then I remembered that Sophie-Anne had the gift of telepathy with her “children” in the books. In the show, they have established telepathy as a gift that is proper to fairies. This was illustrated by Lorena noticing that Barry tastes different, and asking “What are you?”

      They haven’t shown that Sophie-Anne was/is telepathic in the show. But that common thread in the books makes it seem awful possible that they may actually be setting Sophie-Anne up as a fairy/former fairy.

      CRAZY, I tell you!

      • May 31, 2010 at 11:24 pm

        Yes, and I also think this figures into how she can be a queen at such a young age. She could have been thousands of years old with the wisdom of the ages before she was turned.

  2. 11 kealeagh
    May 28, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    With AB’s comments, I sort of saw her dealing her blood to humans as a way to connect herself during the day. I’m not sure the exact way that would work, but if she’s so lonely and desperate for light and contact than maybe that’s the only way she see’s how it’ll work. And she’s just crazy enough to follow through.

  3. 12 Kathy
    May 28, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    My first comment is “Gaahhh! Why did they change Eric’s hair again. I could have dealt with this hair.”

    My second is…..ERW makes a better crazy bitch than a smart, calculating queen, so meh…there’s really no knowing where AB will take this. Just hoping he doesn’t turn her into another Maryann.

    • 13 millarca21
      May 28, 2010 at 2:47 pm

      Oh, shit! I hope not. Michelle Forbes is very good, but her character and the maenad storyline drained too much energy from the season in which I think the Dallas/Godric storyline was more interesting and should have dominated; IMO the rest was an irritating waste of space.

    • 14 lala
      May 29, 2010 at 1:05 pm

      @ Kathy: I strongly agree with both points. I watched TB season 2 last night – and when you see Eric’s blond hair, it’s like, the hair makes him stand out. How could they have RUINED his look for season 3. Ugh, it is so beyond my ability to accept. I’ll lose interest in him if he is not blond.
      I love sophie anne in true blood – i think she is awesome – but you are right, I hope AB does not follow the psycho-maryanne road again. Yawn.

  4. 15 sunnynala
    May 28, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    Yeah, SA is a mass of pathologies but she’s still very cunning.

    I viewed her interactions with Bill compared to Eric to be highly interesting. With Bill, she is allowing him to think he’s more or less on equal footing with her. If he didn’t have this false notion he NEVER would have jumped up to leave in that exasperated fashion. Obviously, Bill is in for a rude awakening where Sophie-Anne is concerned but just as obviously SA doesn’t view him as a long-term threat to her power.

    With Eric it’s a constant power struggle. In this, ERIC is the one who is giving HER false notions–of his compliance and submission. It could be dangerous for him if he didn’t behave this way with her. Nonetheless, he played her when he told her Bill is in love with Sookie. I truly think he no longer believes this but he said it to gauge her (and Hadley’s) reactions, which only confirmed his suspicion that Bill has ulterior motives with Sookie and it all has to do with the queen.

    • 16 KittyKat
      May 28, 2010 at 3:11 pm

      It would have to be, Bill is a “child” vampire, Eric isn’t, plus he has a standing in the vampire hierarchy, a strong one at that. Bill doesn’t. In the books he became Area 5’s investigator, in TB, so far, he’s nothing (that we know of).

      I hadn’t caught on that TB!QSA was only 500 years old, but if she is, she has to have done something that got her ahead. And I’m sure it was devious, even if we end up never hearing about it. But I wonder how a vampire half Eric’s age can be stronger than him, what’s her edge in TB? We haven’t seen much of her entourage so far, will there be an Andre, Weybert, Sigebert? Would something that make her dangerous, or did AB come up with something else?

      I just hope we don’t have a catch-22 here with a non-explanation in the way of “she’s the queen, so she’s stronger” without telling us why.

      • 17 MASpencer
        May 28, 2010 at 3:14 pm

        Maybe she’s just a talking head. But a dangerously impulsive one.

        I hate to go there, but think George Bush and Dick Cheney. I think we all know who the President REALLY was for those eight years. LOL.

      • 18 sunnynala
        May 28, 2010 at 3:15 pm

        I don’t think she’s stronger, she just has a stonger will to power. She’s ambitious, capricious, narcissitic, and corrupt. The perfect psychological resume for elite politicians.

        • 19 MASpencer
          May 28, 2010 at 3:19 pm

          Could be. But maybe someone is making a chump of her, in the same way she’s making a chump of Bill. She may not be the REAL man behind the curtain after all.

          • 20 Robin
            May 28, 2010 at 3:23 pm

            Nice theory MAS, who would be the real vampire behind the curtain? Nan?

          • 22 sunnynala
            May 28, 2010 at 3:25 pm

            It’s possible. She didn’t get where she is without scratching some powerful backs. It’s also possible that her “Sookie operation” is all her own for her own selfish purposes, the exposure of which will bring her down, politically.

            • 23 MASpencer
              May 28, 2010 at 3:41 pm

              I think acquiring Sookie could definitely be a personal mission for Sophie-Anne. But it still doesn’t address the reasons for her being placed in power like she was.

              To further the Bush analogy: Cheney wanted to invade Iraq for obvious reasons, due to his Haliburton connections. Sure, Bush has oil connections, too– but he was an especially suitable candidate for “Puppet President” because he was obviously a very emotional and impulsive man (a cowboy) with his Daddy’s score to settle. Thus, he was easy to manipulate, simply by making him THINK that everything was his idea– because at the end of the day he was in WAY over his head, and relied on the judgment of his advisors anyway.

              I’m getting all of this, by the way, not just from my own understanding of the flaws of the Bush administration, but of Oliver Stone’s depiction of him in “W.” It wasn’t a very good movie, I’m sad to say. But the depiction of GWB as an overgrown child trying to earn his father’s respect (thus making him easily manipulated by a team of “evil geniuses”) was a resonant one– whether it was entirely true or not.

              • 24 MASpencer
                May 28, 2010 at 3:47 pm

                I should have clarified my point there, LOL. I meant to say that maybe Sophie-Anne’s reasons for wanting to appropriate Sookie are purely personal… but someone else, who whispered the idea in her ear but made her think it was HERS, has much more nefarious ends in mind.

              • 25 Robin
                May 28, 2010 at 3:48 pm

                I agree MAS, she seems to have her own personal mission for obtaining Sookie. Not so much for her telepathy, but more for her fairy blood. Unless, the person behind the curtain wants her for the telepathy?

      • 26 lala
        May 29, 2010 at 1:07 pm

        what exactly was bill’s responsibility as the area investigator? has it ever been explored, explained? By charlaine?

  5. 27 Serena
    May 28, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Renee and I are transcribing the Blue Ray extra commentaries over at the Ancient Pythoness. She put up episode 1 and 6 so far. As it might relate to future QSA plots, Pam said this in Hard Hearted Hannah:

    When Pam visits Lafayette at Merlottes
    Pam: A vampire selling vampire blood is curious, but you work for Eric Northman long enough, you learn a few very simple rules. No questions, no judgements, no problem. It’s only when I start sticking my nose in his sometimes … questionable business that I get myself into way too much trouble.

    Y’all should go check out Renee’s place. 🙂

    • 28 MASpencer
      May 28, 2010 at 2:55 pm

      Yeah, I figured Eric didn’t tell Pam the deets. He’d want to limit her liability as much as possible in this operation.

  6. 29 Suzanna
    May 28, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    Hang on. If Sophie-Ann in TB is 500 years old, then how did she come queen? The sense I got from the books is that rank is often based on age. How can QSA boss around Eric, who is twice her age?

    • 30 kealeagh
      May 28, 2010 at 2:51 pm

      I definitely also so that their makers couldn’t be alive either. That would just cause a lot of problems.

      On the show, however, I think that was deliberately done. Eric is older than her for a REASON.

      • 31 VikingLover
        May 28, 2010 at 4:35 pm

        {On the show, however, I think that was deliberately done. Eric is older than her for a REASON.}

        Yes, I agree with this. The same way that they made Russell much older than Eric (and older than Godric). I think QSA being younger will factor in later. I also don’t think that QSA is stronger than Eric physically. I think he let her push him to the ground because she is the Queen and he couldn’t put up much of fight. He did it out of ‘respect’.

        Okay, just throwing some crazy ideas out there to see what sticks. I haven’t thought through a lot of them so excuse me if they are retarded 🙂 :

        1. Maybe QSA is so obsessed with the daylight that she is trying to find some sort of way to be able to walk during the day. Perhaps she feels that Sookie’s blood could be used as some ingredient in some sort of magical soup/spell. Maybe she’s tried this with pure fairy blood and it hasn’t worked – same as Maryann’s desperate search for the “right” human sacrifice that would bring the “god who comes”.

        2. Maybe QSA inherited the position of Queen somehow – maybe through marriage? In the books she married another monarch and he is killed so she inherits his area. Maybe they used this scenario in a different way on TB.

        • 32 MASpencer
          May 28, 2010 at 4:45 pm

          [Maybe QSA is so obsessed with the daylight that she is trying to find some sort of way to be able to walk during the day.]

          I totally considered this, too, VL. But actually, my first thought was of Niall and his wonky biotech ventures. (Probably because the question has been raised before as to whether or not Niall could develop a way to allow vampires to walk in the sunlight.) I thought for a moment that it was possible that Sophie-Anne wants to be “chummy” with Sookie in order to have some influence over her dear old Granddad.

          But even as I typed that it sounded like pretty much the stupidest plot development ever. Sooo…

          • 33 VikingLover
            May 28, 2010 at 5:13 pm

            No, not stupid at all! It’s funny becuase I was going to add that maybe it is a way to draw Niall out and then use Sookie as a bargaining chip. It could very well be. QSA has to know that Sookie is being protected by the fairies in some way. On the show Claudine will make an appearance so it’s definitely plausible.

            • 34 TROSE
              June 2, 2010 at 3:10 pm

              My question is what role does Hadley play in all this? Isn’t she the reason QSA knew of Sookie and sent Bill to collect her? We know Hadley is part fae, and QSA already has her in her possession. So I would think that Hadley would be an effective bargaining chip on her own. Not much is mentioned on the blogs about her, but I think she is way more involved than we are led to believe.

    • 35 MASpencer
      May 28, 2010 at 2:58 pm

      Maybe there’s some kind of nepotism going on. Because I really do think it’s weird, not only given her relatively young age but also given her more-than-apparent caprice.

    • 36 Orientalthorn
      May 28, 2010 at 3:13 pm

      I don’t think that age is a big factor in becoming king/queen. Godric is 2000 hrs old and he could certainly be king of any state (according to Eric) but chose not to. I don’t think Eric is at all interested in becoming king otherwise he could certainly be a viable candidate.

      • 37 MASpencer
        May 28, 2010 at 3:26 pm

        But at the same time, you’d think age would HAVE to matter. It would be too hard to guard against insurgency otherwise– unless you had the support of some very powerful vampires.

        Sophie-Anne must have SOMEONE helping her to retain her position. Especially considering how lonely her life appeared to be, sitting in her dayroom with a harem of humans. It’s like a little girl throwing a tea party with her stuffed animals.

        Not very regal, that’s for sure.

        • 38 sunnynala
          May 28, 2010 at 3:32 pm

          Some powerful vamp or vamp faction may have wanted her in the position because she is easily controlled using her many vices. This is not unusual in human politics. A ‘front’ for certain factions is put up for office and to guard against the ‘front’ going rogue and ‘off agenda’ he’s blackmailed with pics of him with little boys, for instance. (this HAS happened)

          • 39 sunnynala
            May 28, 2010 at 3:45 pm

            For that matter, she could be a tool of a HUMAN political faction.

            • 40 Dwimordene
              May 28, 2010 at 5:42 pm

              That is very interesting, and could be… In the end, at this time, humans as a group have the power to overpower vampires… If they hadn’t come out it would have being worst a little later.
              But how long has she being queen? How long would she have being managed?

              Who ever it is, human or vampire, there is someone. SHe might be very intelligent too, though… Being 500 years old is long enough for knowledge and control, intelligence is born with. It could be that she is playing with them too by looking relax and unregal, but it’s much more fun the other way 😉 And more appropiate with our times, all over the world, lol. Also, Eric was playing her too, and he was not nervous to talk to Bill outside or even to see the queen… He might not have gone there otherwise, if she overpowered him (surely he has other information sources, quicker, more reliable and safer). Obviously at her home there are bodywards, that must be vampires, and would have killed him, so there, he behaves.

              BTW, her fangs are pretty big and gross, same as Bill’s, whereas Eric’s are smaller and beautiful (ok, I love nice canine teeth, lol). SA and B are younger and act like higher on others, Eric knows he is over but don’t go around like a peacock (except fangbangers, but he must be bored to death, lol)… Strenth vs intelligence. Nothing is casual here.

              • 41 sunnynala
                May 28, 2010 at 5:46 pm

                I’ve noticed the differences in fang size and I find it very intriguing. I wonder what it signifies? Possibly it means the ones with bigger fangs are more prone to hunting prey?

        • 42 Orientalthorn
          May 28, 2010 at 3:37 pm

          It probably matters to some extent, I can’t imagine a year old vampire taking over a state. I’m just saying a queen or king isn’t necessarily the oldest in that state. Age is just a natural selection because they have to be more cunning, power hungry, smarter, etc. but Sophie Anne being younger than Eric is acceptable. I’m sure there is a reason on how she came into power, don’t think it’s just cos she is crazy and you’re right, there’s probably someone else behind her.

          • 43 VikingLover
            May 28, 2010 at 5:17 pm

            [I’m just saying a queen or king isn’t necessarily the oldest in that state.}

            Yes, I agree with this. Based on what we have seen so far, there are probably laws in place to guard against insurgency. I’m sure coups do happen and I don’t think that age would necessarily help guard against this.

        • 44 lala
          May 29, 2010 at 1:12 pm

          It’s so Alice in Wonderland for me:)

  7. 45 MASpencer
    May 28, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    INTERESTING.

    I too am puzzled by the daylight fetish, at least insofar as Alan Ball is intimating that it will play an important role in Sophie-Anne’s character development. I’m going to agree with your initial instinct that maybe Sophie-Anne was turned against her will, like Bill (and perhaps more notably, Lorena), and that she yearns for what she’s lost.

    I’d say this surprises me, but it doesn’t. All of Alan Ball’s “villains” are just damaged goods without the will or ability to make lemonade out of lemons. (Well, perhaps that’s a little simplified, but YKWIM.) There’s something inherently pitiable and weak about these types of people– and it’s an underlying insecurity that is betrayed by Sophie-Anne’s flamboyantly imperious demeanor.

    Even Russell– who Alan Ball specifically categorized as one of the “triumvirate of evil”– looks like he’s going to be a crusader for vampire rights who doesn’t really think he’s doing anything wrong. (I take it this is a case of the ends justifying the means… which is interesting, because it offers a perfect counterpoint to the FOTS plotline last year. The sword DOES in fact cut both ways.)

    I don’t know if that type of “tragic flaw” is the same, though– so I’ll be curious to see if these two (Russell and Sophie-Anne) go head to head. And if so, whether it’s even a fair fight.

  8. 46 Mony
    May 28, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    “It is also mentioned that Sophie-Anne’s line “I do look forward to meeting her” – was an improvisation from Evan Rachel Wood.”
    Well that’s a great improv by ERW…good for her!
    I guess her selling V has a very crazy purpose and as someone said i wouldn’t be surprised if she does it only becouse she felt alone…..that would be crazy!

  9. 47 dsm
    May 28, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    I find it hard to imagine how someone like the Sophie Anne AB has created could rise to the position of Queen. In the books, it was clear how she got there – old, smart, cunning, politically astute. A significantly younger, less experienced, impulsive and “crazy” Sophie Anne though? However she gained her power, I suspect that she is significantly less confident than book SA that she can actually hold on to it. In the books it took Katrina to make SA vulnerable, in the show it seems that they are building this into the character from the beginning.

    Seems like an entirely different ballgame here than in books. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

    • 48 Orientalthorn
      May 28, 2010 at 3:19 pm

      I agree, I think QSA in the books was definitely a stronger character and she was surrounded by very loyal subjects i.e. Andre, Siegbert and Wybert… Even Eric respected her and was loyal to her. In TB, neither Eric nor Bill seem to have the same loyalty and respect.

      • 49 MASpencer
        May 28, 2010 at 3:22 pm

        That’s why you HAVE to wonder if there isn’t more to her story than what we’ve seen so far…

    • 50 Dee
      May 28, 2010 at 4:24 pm

      Seeing as how she is crazy and also we know she is doing illegal stuff in the vamp world, she can be sort of like a Victor who really schemed to become Queen. In the books Victor is not there but it’s what he wants and is putting everything in motion to accomplish this. So who knows what she did to get that position.

      She might be crazy but at the same time there has to be a lot more to her. With the whole maenad situation, both Bill and Eric thought of her when they didn’t know what Maryann was and how to kill her. Eric who has been around 1,000 years didn’t know but he had an idea that QSA would know. They were right, she knew everything about maenad’s and how to kill one.

      • May 28, 2010 at 4:31 pm

        Did she though?

        What she told Bill about how to kill a maenad was actually totally off in terms of how it eventually played out. The jury is still out on whether that was deliberate or a writing fuck up, granted.

        And now I’m wondering whether she actually had NFI and told Bill a whole heap of bullshit…because she IS crazy.

        • 52 sunnynala
          May 28, 2010 at 4:34 pm

          Nah, she would give Bill accurate info because Sookie’s safety is important to her. Giving him a load of gorilla shit might have put Sookie in serious peril.

          • 53 VikingLover
            May 28, 2010 at 4:54 pm

            I also don’t think we should underestimate her because she is crazy and comes across as such. I think that a lot of her theatrics is to “throw people off”. I agree with you, Sunny, that she is VERY cunning. The real SA emerged when she threatened Eric.

            • 54 Dee
              May 28, 2010 at 4:58 pm

              To continue with what some of us were talking about yesterday. Bill definitely updated QSA on his progress with Sookie. She knows that Sookie has had Bill’s blood. When Bill wants to leave, she doesn’t just say Sookie is in no trouble, she finishes with You would know. Only way he would know is because she had his blood and he would feel it.

              Still don’t think Eric knows anything but it just shows that QSA does know what happened.

              • 55 VikingLover
                May 28, 2010 at 5:20 pm

                Excellent point, Dee! Billie has been checking in with his boss. I’m sure he also told her that Eric had been trying to interfere.

                • 56 MollyS
                  May 28, 2010 at 11:20 pm

                  But remember, “the guards hear everything.” So there’s no way of knowing how long she has had this info.

                  • 57 VikingLover
                    May 29, 2010 at 1:22 am

                    Actually the Queen alluded to the fact that Sookie had Bill’s blood when he first arrived – this was before he and Eric had the conversation outside of her home.

                    • 58 Dee
                      May 29, 2010 at 1:35 am

                      Yup exactly, when SA said “sookie is in no trouble, you would know” it was while Bill was inside of her place. The guards heard the conversation between Eric and Bill after Bill left her place and Eric was about to enter.

                      This just proves even more that AB will go with the storyline of Bill seducing Sookie. How in the world would SA know this.

                    • 59 Serena
                      May 29, 2010 at 1:37 am

                      Well it wasn’t via text. lol. Unless that is another one of Bills lies. Maybe he is secretly working on his database too. lol.

                    • 60 VikingLover
                      May 31, 2010 at 3:59 am

                      {Well it wasn’t via text. lol. }

                      I watched the ep with Bill and the Queen today and he actually sent Sookie a text message to tell her he wouldn’t be home until the following day (or something to that extent). Isn’t that funny? Maybe he does communicate with QSA via text or email! Hahahaha! Gigi once said she thought Bill was lying about his tech abilities. Gigi, I think you may have been right! 🙂

                      Either way, he seems to be in constant communication with the Queen. Watching her in action again today, I can see that we really shouldn’t underestimate her.

            • May 29, 2010 at 12:34 pm

              I agree, VL. I think SA was wearing a mask with Bill, and a different one with Eric. I’m looking forward to seeing where AB goes with this character.

              • 62 Robin
                May 29, 2010 at 12:44 pm

                You know what, I agree with VL too, Renee. I think SA is putting on a facade for Bill. Eric knows just how ruthless she can be, and I personally think that she earned her right to be Queen. She has her own agenda and knows exactly what is going on.

        • 63 Dee
          May 28, 2010 at 4:38 pm

          I hope she was able to somehow give Bill the idea, or else AB is making it look like Bill is the clever one and came up with the idea. Could also be a writing fuck up which I think i’d prefer over Bill the wise one lol.

          She did know about maenads though and Bill and Eric seemed to know that she would. Although, I have to say that it’s annoying that they have her knowing and meanwhile Eric who has been around much longer didn’t know. In the books he knew exactly who she was. But then I guess we would get the scene with him and the queen if he knew.

          • 64 Dee
            May 28, 2010 at 4:39 pm

            *we wouldn’t get the scene

          • 65 sunnynala
            May 28, 2010 at 4:41 pm

            I think they believed she knew about maenads because there is something about her–her former human life or what she has done since becoming a vampire—that would make her familiar with Greek mythology.

            • 66 Dee
              May 28, 2010 at 4:54 pm

              Maybe the answer is in that when trying to figure out QSA on TB.

              • 67 Skarlove
                May 28, 2010 at 6:45 pm

                If the Greek key/border decorations at her palace are any indication, I think the Queen definitely has a mythological connection.

                This is completely out there, but what if TB brings in the Ancient Pythoness as QSA’s maker? She was such an intridguing character in the books. Since she’s just about the oldest, most respected vampire in existence she’d easily be able to install QSA as a puppet queen.

                Since she acts as an arbiter (or did, at least in the books)she really shouldn’t have power or territories of her own. It would be seen as a conflict of interest, I think. Perhaps she wants to maintain a foothold in politics, and uses her childe Sophie Ann to that end.

                Hell, I’m probably crazy. But I would love to see that character brought to life – if we get Jane Bodehouse on screen, can’t we at least get the Pythoness too?

                • 68 sunnynala
                  May 28, 2010 at 6:52 pm

                  This is completely out there, but what if TB brings in the Ancient Pythoness as QSA’s maker? She was such an intridguing character in the books. Since she’s just about the oldest, most respected vampire in existence she’d easily be able to install QSA as a puppet queen.

                  Skarlove, i was just thinking the same thing!

                • 71 Dwimordene
                  May 28, 2010 at 8:23 pm

                  That really sounds good, would have AB thought of it? I hope so, it would make even more interesting politics, though we had already the magistrate… Maybe he is only for the lowers… This theory makes a lot of sense.

                • May 29, 2010 at 12:39 pm

                  I love this idea, but the AP has already been cast. It’s Nan Flanagan. The role of the Pythia in Greece was literally to be the spokesperson for the god Apollo. AB has made the AP the spokesperson for the AVL. I think that’s why he created the matister to act as judge.

      • 74 lala
        May 29, 2010 at 1:17 pm

        @Dee: very good point – they knew to go to the queen for answers. Maybe she is a genius or something. We know she is a philosopher.:)

  10. 75 EricObsessed
    May 28, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    I always figured they had SA act so silly and immature because they didn’t want a 15 year old vamipre on the show so they had her act younger rather than look younger. I also felt that a lot of her strength in the books was from her “children” who she kept so close to her. Since it looks she doesn’t have them in the show I can imagine that she might not last long. Especially with the V selling and what we’ve seen so far of S3 with the Magistar and Russell, I’ll bet she’s going down. I expect to be surprised though since it does seem like she is not the same character from the books at all.

  11. 76 VikingLover
    May 28, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    Great post, SVB!! Before I read through the comments and get my thoughts together, I just want to say this: I HATE HER SO F*****KING MUCH. You know how some of you feel about the hair? Well, take that feeling and multiply by about 10000.

    Okay, rant over. 🙂

    • May 28, 2010 at 4:25 pm

      Ha ha! I just knew you were going to blow off about ERW on this post 😉
      It’s ok honey, we all have our triggers. Mine is the hair, yours is ERW’s Queen impersonation. Let it rip 🙂

      • 78 sunnynala
        May 28, 2010 at 4:38 pm

        My trigger is Bill’s face and all it represents. Everytime I see it I want to commit hari kari.

        • 79 VikingLover
          May 28, 2010 at 5:00 pm

          LOL! I want her to DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I WANT TO WATCH IT HAPPEN IN SLO MO. 🙂

          • May 28, 2010 at 5:34 pm

            Mine is the skank in the DOD. At least I have the satisfaction of knowing that she won’t be hanging around long. LOL QSA might take a lot longer.

        • 81 Jo
          May 28, 2010 at 5:17 pm

          mine is the representation of the AP of Sookie, his immaturity, his lack of intelligence, its “superior” morality, their lack of sense of humor, his extreme dependence on boyfriend

        • May 29, 2010 at 11:15 am

          *harakiri =D

          I actually liked ERW before, but her performance on TB was just whack.

  12. May 28, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    I understand that ERW was vilified for her portrayal of QSA by many people. To me she was brilliant.A great mixture of cunning and self indulgence. Here is this vampire, crazy as bat shit and she can boss a 1000yr. Eric around. Agreed, she is playing Bill. If things work out, good, if they don’t, he’s disposable. Eric is crafty enough to play along till he gets what he needs, whether it’s information or whatever. Patience is something he has to have learned in his long existence.
    Maybe QSA is crazy, but she is also crazy like a fox.

    • 84 Ashley
      May 28, 2010 at 4:39 pm

      I liked ERWs Queen too. Im one of few i guess. But i liked that she was a lot crazier than in the books. In the books, to be honest, i found the Queen to be kind of boring. Andre and her bodyguards are what made her more interesting. So ill wait and see what happens this season.

      • 85 Dee
        May 28, 2010 at 4:43 pm

        Great point, on TV might not have played well if she acted the same way. I guess it is more entertaining to watch a crazy Queen, rather than the way she was described in the books. She might still have some of the same attributes such as cunning, ruthless and MAYBE extremely intelligent too, well have to wait and see. Just adding more to her character will be a lot more fun to watch.

        • 86 VikingLover
          May 28, 2010 at 5:06 pm

          I’ve worked for some people that never should have made it to the positions they were in. It was excruciating to work for them. I’m sure we can all relate to that! 🙂 I hate her to the very depths of my existance – I’m not sure if you all caught that. Just wanted to reiterate. Does she always have to grab Eric’s face like that? Anyhoo, I didn’t like SA in the books either. Not her portrayal but her as a “person”. I thought she was awful and manipulative. The only reason I was sorry that she died was because I was worried about Eric. At least under her he and Pam had some protection.

          • 87 VikingLover
            May 28, 2010 at 5:08 pm

            ***existence**

            • 88 Caitlin
              May 28, 2010 at 9:07 pm

              oh I am right there with you VikingLover! I will be sooo pissed if AB decides to make QSA a prominent character in TB because ERW’s acting in Season 2 almost killed me. Watching her was like watching really really really really bad, amateur, local theatre x 1000. I didn’t get the impression that QSA was crazy from the scenes with ERW, I couldn’t tell anything about her character, all I knew was that ERW was a terrible terrible terrible actress! She was trying soooo hard and failing miserably. I shudder just thinking about it. AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

        • 89 Charlotte
          May 28, 2010 at 8:18 pm

          We haven’t seen Andre yet. Maybe the fact that TB QSA is crazy is sort of taking Andre’s character into consideration. To me he was always the crazy one and he was more willing to act on it as well. Maybe AB is trying to mesh these characters since QSA’s character in the books was so lackluster.

      • 90 lala
        May 29, 2010 at 1:20 pm

        @Ashley: Agreed; the queen in the books was a bore. I love TB’s queen.

  13. 91 Mony
    May 28, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    TELEVISIONARY POSTED THE FIRST 3 EPISODES REVIEW!!!!!!!!!!

    • 92 sunnynala
      May 28, 2010 at 5:12 pm

      “James Frain’s Franklin Mott, the latter of which uncovers a very intriguing subplot that could change our perceptions of certain events in the series’ very early days. Hmmm…”

      “All of which adds up to a hell of a beginning for a season that promises to shatter the status quo of the series”

      OH HELLS TO THE YES!

      • 93 Mony
        May 28, 2010 at 5:16 pm

        yeah..that sounds good!!!!!!seem to be a very deep and crazy!!!!
        the comment on Eric’s presence in Bill’s kidnapping i guess it’s only to tease people….i guess if Bill disappear he would be happy of course but he is not fool to risk his life with the Queen…

        Ball said we’ll be very surprise about WHO kidnapped Bill….my money on Steve Newlin.

        • 94 sunnynala
          May 28, 2010 at 5:32 pm

          Eric would be a fool to kidnap Bill and Eric ain’t no fool. No doubt there will be red herrings pointing to him having a hand in it but I’ll eat my all my hats if he did.

          • 95 Mony
            May 28, 2010 at 6:11 pm

            i agree…Eric is not a fool…we have several options…one of them is Steve Newlin and the other one is…well….Sophie-Anne herself…we know she is a little bit…crazy…..

            • 96 AstralRomance
              May 28, 2010 at 6:44 pm

              I agree with you Mony I too am starting to think that it is Sophie Anne who kidnapped Bill.

              • 97 Dee
                May 28, 2010 at 6:51 pm

                It’s interesting because in one of the trailers, we just hear eric’s voice saying “but my loyalty isn’t to Bill” forgot exactly how he said but he says it in a way where he is saying that his loyalty is to the queen not bill and those are orders he has to follow. Now when sookie goes to fangtasia to tell eric that Bill has been kidnapped, he says it is his duty to find him. We know that QSA comes to visit him. So that conversation about where his loyalty lies has to be a conversation he has with Sookie. I’m guessing that maybe he hasn’t been ordered to stay out of it, and this can also explain why QSA jumps on Eric, he might question her and even ask how can they not try to find him. Which will put Eric in a position to either completely obey his queen or to try and help Sookie somehow to find Bill. This will also explain why he says that he can’t go to Jackson but he will send someone to help Sookie.

                • 98 Dee
                  May 28, 2010 at 6:52 pm

                  *maybe he HAS been ordered to stay out of it

                  • 99 AstralRomance
                    May 28, 2010 at 7:05 pm

                    That’s very interesting Dee. Like you have said how and why did Eric go from saying it was his job to find Bill to then not wanting to go Jackson. I just assumed the reason he couldn’t go to Mississippi was because of his bad relationship with Russell but maybe you are right and he was ordered not to get involved.

                    • 100 VikingLover
                      May 28, 2010 at 7:14 pm

                      I was wondering the same thing too, Dee. It’s interesting that he has that “loyalty” conversation with Sookie after the Queen visits him – he seems to wearing the same clothes he’s wearing in the scene where she grabs his face (yet again grrrr). Like you, I think she tells him to stay out of it. Bill doesn’t know that QSA is involved in V dealing (at least as far as we know) so she wouldn’t really care that he’s been taken. The only thing that confuses me about this theory is the fact that she sent him to BT to secure Sookie. Wouldn’t she want to get him back in order to complete the mission? This is what is throwing me off.

                    • 101 Dee
                      May 28, 2010 at 7:17 pm

                      That is what I found very odd too. Yes, at first I assumed it was because of Russell but then we see he does end up in Jackson anyways so maybe that wasn’t the reason. Also, if you notice Sookie’s reaction when Eric says he can’t go, she doesn’t seem surprised and doesn’t even ask him “well why not” her face even looks like she might be saying to herself “oh thats right damn” So I wonder if it’s because she knows already. I could be all wrong though but that is the first impression ive gotten from what we’ve seen.

              • 102 Robin
                May 28, 2010 at 6:58 pm

                But why would SA kidnap Bill? Do you think maybe she knew Bill was going to propose marriage to Sookie, and SA did not want that to happen? Maybe Bill was proposing marriage outside of the Queen’s orders? I am having a hard time seeing that happening.

                I would think an engagement and marriage would secure Sookie to SA, by way of Bill. I think the rush engagement and marriage have been put into motion by SA and Bill due to Eric’s pursuit of Sookie and her having his blood.

                • 103 sunnynala
                  May 28, 2010 at 7:03 pm

                  I just can’t believe Bill would propose marriage outside SA’s orders. He’d be taking his life in his hands.

                  And why would she kidnap Bill and remove him from Sookie’s vicinity right when Eric has become such a danger to their mission? The LAST thing she needs is to have Bill out of Eric’s way.

                • 104 Dee
                  May 28, 2010 at 7:04 pm

                  This is what makes no sense to me either. Only thing I’m picking up from trailers is that maybe SA tells Eric to stay out of it. But I don’t get it because I would think she’d be worried that Bill is kidnapped. She knows that Bill is aware of the fact that Eric has humans dealing V for him, now if anybody who kidnapped Bill found this out then wouldn’t she be afraid that it might lead back to her? Not to mention that she might figure this as a possibility if she thinks Eric has any interest in Sookie and Bill would have no problem ratting him out.

                  Now if she is not worried, is there a reason for it? is she part of it somehow? Or maybe she wants to deal with it and not Eric? If this is the case then why is he at Russell’s? Too many questions and just a bunch of possible theories, no clear cut answers. Which I guess is the point and the fun part of watching it unfold as it happens and giving the viewers the element of surprise.

                  • 105 sunnynala
                    May 28, 2010 at 7:14 pm

                    I think Eric is going to have to try and hide Bill’s kidnapping from her for as long as possible. Perhaps when we see her attacking Eric in Fangtasia she’s just found out about it? Obviously Eric would be her first suspect and this is why he has to keep her in the dark. SA won’t be worried because the only person Bill can rat out is Eric, which would suit her fine, but she WILL be infuriated and take it out on Eric.

                    • 106 sunnynala
                      May 28, 2010 at 7:20 pm

                      And he can’t go with Sookie to Jackson because SA cryptically ordered him to stay away from her. He cant be seen galivanting with her in Mississippi.

                      /

                    • 107 Dee
                      May 28, 2010 at 7:24 pm

                      yes Sunny I agree, I wrote either above or below that Eric says he can’t go with Sookie because the queen ordered him not to.

                  • 108 VikingLover
                    May 28, 2010 at 7:17 pm

                    Oooops, didn’t see these comments until after I posted mine. Duh! 🙂 Hmmm, yes too many holes! Crazy theory alert: unless QSA wants Bill to infiltrate Russell’s area as a spy.

                    • 109 Dee
                      May 28, 2010 at 7:27 pm

                      WOW didn’t think of that one, that is a possibility. Again, I said somewhere else in another blog post that I found it odd how we seem Bill encounter Russell and that it doesn’t seem right. I said the DEA had him do it lol but that seems a bit out there, and although its crossed my mind, not sure how possible it is. But that would make sense if SA is the one who sent him to infiltrate.

                  • 110 Robin
                    May 28, 2010 at 7:22 pm

                    I am more inclined to think that Eric tells SA that Bill has been kidnapped that night at Fangtasia. SA then threatens Eric’s life, that he basically better find and recover Bill. Of course, the reason SA wants Bill returned is because of his role in securing Sookie for the Queen, and he also knows that Eric selling the V. So, after SA threatens Eric, Eric goes to Jackson and shows up at Alcide’s. Sookie has already received the phone call from Bill where he tells her that he does not wish to be found. Eric then asks Sookie to help him to find and recover Bill because the Queen has threatened his life. So, Eric and Sookie will become closer and learn to trust and help each other.

                • 111 AstralRomance
                  May 28, 2010 at 7:24 pm

                  If SA did kidnap Bill it might have nothing to do with his relationship with Sookie and everything to do with the V sales.

      • 112 Ashley
        May 28, 2010 at 7:41 pm

        I second that hells to the yes…finally!

    • 113 Robin
      May 28, 2010 at 5:14 pm

      Mony is always breaking the news, haha!

    • 114 Ashley
      May 28, 2010 at 7:52 pm

      This review is really good. Anyone who hasnt read it should check it out.

      • 115 Dee
        May 28, 2010 at 7:58 pm

        I read it and definitely sounds a lot deeper than the past 2 seasons. I love this part:

        “How do we define ourselves? Are we a sum of our past actions or the choices we make in the present? Are we individuals or part of a larger collective? By knowing where we came from, can we finally claim to understand ourselves? Are we more than our birth-rights, more than our heritage? Are we free to follow the better angels of our nature? Or forced to fall in line with our inner demons?”

        especially the part where he says ” are we a sum of our past actions or the choices we make in the present? I’m guessing this will be part of Bill’s plot

        Oh wait, will there be a new post on this? If so I’ll hold off any further conversation on this review.

        • 116 VikingLover - Moderator
          May 28, 2010 at 8:06 pm

          I’m not sure if SVB will create a new post for it but that’s why I asked that any “breaking news” be posted to the Facebook site. This way, if it’s newsworthy, she can decide to create a new post. Dee, by the way, my “Mod Cap” isn’t meant for you. lol I just hit the reply button at this point in order to hopefully halt all comments regarding the review.

          • 117 Dee
            May 28, 2010 at 8:21 pm

            No it’s ok, Infact I wanted you or SVB to answer whether we can continue talking about this or to stop. I don’t want to continue with the conversation since it is breaking news and might be discussed elsewhere later on.

            Thank you for answering VL

  14. 119 Pam
    May 28, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    but QSA did tell Eric that she’s older than him… so I doubt that she’s 500 years old …

    • May 28, 2010 at 5:58 pm

      I thought she referred to Eric as the oldest and strongest vampire in her Queendom, but she’d wear his fangs for earrings if he didn’t do as he was told.

      • 121 Pam
        May 28, 2010 at 6:03 pm

        yeah, that’s why I interpreted it as ‘you may be the strongest in my kingdom, but I’m still stronger and better than you’

  15. 122 Mia
    May 28, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    I’m with Vikinglover; I hated TB’s version of SA. The Yahtzee stuff and SA’s comments about her people buffet and watching men do it with each other made me think she couldn’t run a McDonald’s let alone a state. I’m willing to give TB a chance to redeem her though since I hated Jessica at the end of S1, and they managed to make her interesting in S2.

    QSA in the books was more complex to me. Her history of sexual abuse, which made her sympathetic towards Andre, Hadley, and Sookie, the punishment of her favorite, Waldo, her plot to kill her vampire husband, her grief over Hadley’s pain during the ectoplasmic reconstruction, her grief over Hadley’s death, the death of the Arkansas vampires, etc made her compeling, and I was sorry she was killed off in the books. I mean the fact she was able to rise a vampire and not eat the priest said something about her strength to me. I also liked that SA’s vampire security looked like vampire security and not a bunch of secret service agents.

    I also get weary of the “crazy” female in television and movies. Why can’t the queen be logical, diabolical, scary, sympathetic, and powerful without having to resort to crazy?

    • May 28, 2010 at 8:18 pm

      I think the odd, crazy behaviour of QSA is only a facade. She likes to picture herself like a spoiled teenager with a bunch of silly hobbies but she’s cunning and foxy.
      She enjoys to exasperate people all around her with her strange manners, but when it comes the need, she knows how to be rational and scary.
      I remember the trailer in which QSA appears at Fangtasia, she looked devastated and infuriated. There’re many layers in her, I’m sure.
      I also like ERW. I know I’m one of the few but… I liked her performance. I think QSA is portrayed that way because she’s a villain, a much more negative character than she’s in the books. IOW, we HAVE to hate her.

  16. 124 candice
    May 28, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    if she is shy fae the QSA is related to Hadley so they cant have a relationship

  17. 125 Caitlin
    May 28, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    If this has already been answered please forgive me…but we know QSA is selling V, and we know the werewolves in Mississippi are on V…you think there is any connection there? I couldn’t tell if Russell was happy that is were “guards” were hooked on V or not, would he be pissed at QSA about her selling V, or do you think he wants the weres who work for him to be as crazy as possible?

    • 126 Dee
      May 28, 2010 at 9:26 pm

      Hey caitlin, yeah this has been brought up and I would link you to specific posts but it’s been talked about in several blogs so it would be all over the place and you’d have to go through so many posts to find this.

      That’s what we’re trying to find out. I thought at first that Russell would try to take down QSA for dealing V. But then he has these V addicted were’s, so if he was that against it, would he really have them work for him? So then I wonder is Russell trying to take her down or was QSA dealing to somehow get to the were’s that work for Russell. Then there is also the possibility that they both are dealing or involved somehow with V. Maybe they are against each other for control of the business, like two mob families who fight for control of the business by taking the other out.

      Or it could be none of the above lol. I have too many theories running through my head on this particular subject, I’m getting myself confused haha.

  18. 127 MASpencer
    May 28, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    So, I just had a thought. Last season, we heard about pussylover9, right? That could have been in there just for laughs– and if so, it was effective– but it’s bothered me that this storyline really led nowhere last season. Fortunately, I have a suspicion that it might resurface this season.

    The fourth episode is named “9 Crimes” and while it’s a song with (likely) relevant lyrics, the number in the title will be specific to a certain plot point, if past examples (e.g. “The Fourth Man in the Fire”) are anything to go on. Naturally, I was puzzling over what the 9 could refer to (I was thinking body counts) but all along, the most obvious answer is that it’s referencing pussylover9.

    I’m positive this has been mentioned before, but what if pussylover9 is Sophie-Anne? We know she hasn’t been with men since the Eisenhower administration… and the fact that she’s selling V would potentially connect her with Lafayette, and would also illuminate the nature of the “crime” in this case.

    Some questions: Why would she have been operating under an alias out of Dallas? Was Eric dragged into the V selling because he followed up on Lafayette’s information? If so, is it possible that Eric gave Lafayette his blood on the Queen’s orders? And finally… WTF?

    • 128 Dee
      May 28, 2010 at 9:59 pm

      That is a very good observation, I wondered why it was named “9 Crimes” but it can definitely lead us back to Pussylover9.

      LOL yeah WTF is what I keep saying at the end of everything that goes through my mind. It’s also interesting because yeah after they got information from Laf, is when Eric was told to have a human sell V for him. So something from those events lead to the decision to do this. So either Eric found out too much and the queen is setting him up to take the fall. But then we also don’t know if she was involved with V before Laf. So if thats the case then this definitely is not for a profit, it was an idea she came up with after they found out information from Lafayette.

      Is Russell pussylover, yes i know crazy but he would come up with that name to really throw anybody off his track. How and why would this pussylover contact Lafayette if they are in Dallas. Is it through his website, if so then we can see how a gay man would find Laf’s site. Did Eric tell the queen this and she found out more information and thats when she decided to deal V.

      And I just confused myself even more lol.

    • 129 sunnynala
      May 28, 2010 at 10:09 pm

      Just my opinion: (9 crimes, all in Bon Temps)

      1-Caroline Compton
      2-Denise Rattray
      3-Mack Rattray
      4-Malcolm
      5-Liam
      6-Diane
      7-Fangbanger/4th man in the fire
      8-Gran
      9-Uncle Bartlett

      • 130 Dee
        May 28, 2010 at 10:19 pm

        Do you mean the ones associated with Bill?

        • 131 sunnynala
          May 29, 2010 at 12:45 am

          Yes, we know for a fact that Bill is responsible for 7 of those deaths, and there are good reasons for suspecting him in Grans death. As for Caroline, there has to be a reason why he will be shown going back to BT after Lorena forced him to leave the first time. It’s just interesting that there are precisely nine.

      • 132 Ericrocks
        May 29, 2010 at 2:09 am

        But Sunny, Royce and his crew was responsible for killing Malcolm, Liam, and Diane, and the human that was with them.

        As much as I love to blame shit on Bill, I just don’t see this one. And we saw through Sookievision that Rene’ killed Adele.

        • 133 Serena
          May 29, 2010 at 2:30 am

          About Gran’s death, I have to agree with Sunny on this one. I say with all my Criminal Minds watching expertise, lol, it makes no sense or more precisely Amy Burley’s death makes no sense if Rene killed Gran.. I don’t think CH/AB researched serial killers very thoroughly, once the ‘unsub’ starts to devolve, lol, that is derail from his normal killing patterns into something done for rage, they don’t usually go back to killing with the same pattern again.

          We know we saw it the Sookievision, but what if Bill glamoured it in there?

          Besides, isn’t it more interesting if Bill killed Gran?

          • 134 Dee
            May 29, 2010 at 2:43 am

            I agree but at the same time wouldn’t a copycat follow the exact same pattern. Also, if Bill took the time to read the police report and in there read that Sookie said the door was open and made sure to do the same, wouldn’t he have murdered Gran in the same exact way the others were killed. If he was so careful about such a thing as the door, I would think he would do the same with the murder itself. I don’t know that part I just find odd. Not saying it’s true or not, and I’m just gonna wait to see if it does happen on TB. Not sure what to think.

            Also, seems like Sookie knows when someone has been glamored. They haven’t exactly told us if she can always tell when someone has been glamored and under what circumstances, but twice she has picked up on this.

            • 135 sunnynala
              May 29, 2010 at 2:49 am

              She did mention something to Sam about the killers thoughts being ‘red and snarly’ or something like that when Rene had her cornered in Merlottes. At that point, she may not have been as familiar with glamoured thoughts as she is now. Also, if you watch the scene in the cemetary when Rene is hunting Sookie there is a very strange moment when Rene seeed to ‘warp’ for lack of a better word. He went out of focus very quickly and there was an odd sound that accompanied the effect.

        • 137 sunnynala
          May 29, 2010 at 2:34 am

          Eric would see it as Bill being morally responsible for the deaths of the trio. Bill received THREE warnings from Sookie and went and hid himself without warning the others. he WANTED them dead because they made him look bad in front of Sookie. Yes, he was responsible even if he didn’t light the fire himself.

          • 138 VikingLover
            May 29, 2010 at 2:48 am

            Hey Guys, Grans death and the death of the 3 vamps associated with Bill are going to take us waaaay off topic. I believe this was discussed in the another thread – I’ll find it and post the link. It’s better if the convo is moved there so that we can all stay on the topic of QSA, etc.

          • 139 pennydreadful
            May 29, 2010 at 2:56 am

            By whatever code the vamps live by, Bill probably had every obligation to inform Eric of what Royce and his buddies were planning. Through out the series, Bill has been very reluctant to have Sookie associate too closely with any other vamps precisely because he’s afraid of them telling tales out of school.

            “Hey Bill…remember when we totally tortured and drained that orphanage full of kids at Our Lady of Mercy Home for Unwanted Children? Good times…good times.”

    • May 28, 2010 at 10:33 pm

      MAS – I always wondered WTF was this pussylover9. Since I’m sure that in TB’s world nothing is useless or meaningless, this pussylover9 must appear again.
      I’ve never thought it could be QSA – I was thinking it could be Lafayette’s new love interest Jesus – but it would be shocking if PL9 was in fact the Queen herself!
      Nice choice for the nickname, if it was so. 😉

      • 141 pennydreadful
        May 28, 2010 at 11:19 pm

        I also believe that we’re going to see more of the Dallas/pussylover9 connection this season. In the first episode Sookie overhears Denise Rattray’s thoughts:

        “He’s probably got 11 or 12 pints in him. Holy shit! That’s almost 200 ounces. I bet we could get 500 an ounce in Dallas.”

        Why would the Rattrays want to sell blood in Dallas of all places? After all, there is a thriving market for V in the local area.

        • 142 MASpencer
          May 28, 2010 at 11:48 pm

          It DOES make you wonder… if this pussylover9 is the buyer, s/he must pay pretty well.

          It reeks of a set-up to me at this point. But who’s setting up who? And to what end?

    • 143 Lotus
      May 28, 2010 at 10:40 pm

      If you think of ‘9’ as an identifier, associating it with pussylover(no.)9, it could possibly be SA. Perhaps these are the crimes which bring her before the Magister.

      Maybe QSA was in league with someone from Dallas, perhaps a supplier in the area? We do not yet know if she is dealing her own blood …

      It would be a great twist were Eric to have been ensnared while engaged in Sheriff duties. Maybe in the end it will work to his advantage, as he will discover the truth of Bill’s connection to the Queen.

      Great theory, MAS.

    • 144 MASpencer
      May 28, 2010 at 11:21 pm

      SNAP. Dallas is Area 9 in vampire geography. Pussylover9 may not be Sophie-Anne, but it’s DEFINITELY a vampire.

      But I think it IS Sophie-Anne (for reasons that we’ll learn early on this season). I’m guessing that Eric followed up on Lafayette’s pussylover9 tip, and it led him to Sophie-Anne… and THAT’S how he got wrapped up in the V selling plot, and why he gave Lafayette his blood. (Which makes a whole lot more sense, when you think about it, than Eric giving Lafayette his blood because “Sookie interests him”. Even MY bullshit meter went off with that one. And lo, right after, Pam shows up to put Lafayette to work.)

      It’s also possible that Eric knew about pussylover9 ahead of time, and was only feigning ignorance with Lafayette. But that leads us down a whole different path…

      • 145 MASpencer
        May 28, 2010 at 11:27 pm

        Or alternatively, he could have learned info about pussylover9 and took it to Sophie-Anne… who then ordered Eric’s complicity (using Lafayette as a vehicle) in a plan to somehow entrap this V buyer, whoever it is. Maybe Russell, like Dee suggested. Maybe another vampire entirely.

        But it pretty much HAS to be a vampire. Humans aren’t likely be familiar with vampire area designations and whatnot– and if they are, they’ve obviously done their homework. Like COPS.

        • 146 Dee
          May 28, 2010 at 11:48 pm

          I think you’re on to something Mas.

          It would make sense because it really seems like the whole V dealing is something she just got into recently. Unless we are to believe she had other humans selling V for her but if that is the case then why use Laf if you have others. I think that after further investigation they did find something out, and whatever QSA/Eric found out it’s leading to events now in season 3. Which of course means we will find out finally who pussylover9 is.

          Cops, or maybe the DEA more specifically but I think the other theory might work better because I don’t see why QSA would get involved if she discovered this, unless she didn’t discover it was an undercover DEA agent and fell into the trap. But with the DEA getting involved on the show, it might have some type of connection.

          • 147 MASpencer
            May 29, 2010 at 12:20 am

            Whoever it is, the term “pussylover” is going to be either VERY appropriate or WILDLY inappropriate. In Sophie-Anne’s case, well, the name would speak for itself. And as Russell is a gay man (er, vampire), it would also be an ironic and hilarious choice.

            But I just had a horrible thought. There’s one more person in this cast of characters who can be immediately associated with the word “lover”… and who undoubtedly likes “pussy” (as we will be shown, explicitly, during his playtime with Yvetta in his office AND his basement). What if it’s Eric himself??? He and Pam DID both smirk a little when he repeated the name back to Lafayette. (Then again, who wouldn’t?) It could be that this is how Eric learned about Lafayette’s V dealing in the first place… and how he ended up in the dungeon.

            But that STILL doesn’t explain the Dallas connection. And it also wouldn’t explain the Queen’s sudden interest in dealing her V herself. So I’m going to say NO to the Eric-as-pussylover theory. Er, PROBABLY not.

            Sigh. I DON’T KNOW!

        • 149 Jan
          May 29, 2010 at 1:52 pm

          May be Steve is pusstlover (9)

      • 150 pennydreadful
        May 28, 2010 at 11:29 pm

        MAS- My jaw just dropped in amazement. You’re so brilliant for figuring out the nine connection!

        • 151 MASpencer
          May 28, 2010 at 11:43 pm

          LOL! Thanks, Penny!!!

          But really, Eric mentioned that “the sheriff of Area 9” was missing when he was bringing Royce upstairs for interrogation in the episode right before Lafayette spills about pussylover9. So it was right there under ALL of our noses the whole time. I cannot BELIEVE I didn’t make that connection sooner!

          But the important thing is that ERIC more than likely made the connection immediately. As soon as he saw the number 9 associated with a V buyer in Dallas, his alarm bells probably would have gone off. The 9 may not mean anything to us, but it means A LOT to them.

          • 152 VikingLover
            May 29, 2010 at 2:06 am

            This is a great catch MAS! It can’t be a coincidence that Eric would mention Area 9 and then Lafayette would tell him the V buyers name was PussyLover9. I always thought it could be related to Hallow and the witches but now, with all of the info regarding Russell, I’m not sure.

            • 153 MASpencer
              May 29, 2010 at 2:14 am

              I’m just still stumped as to why this buyer would be in DALLAS. Russell’s in Mississippi, Sophie-Anne’s in Louisiana… aside from it being a nearby territory, the Dallas connection just seems random.

              Unless the FOTS somehow figures into the equation. I could see Russell being in secret cahoots with them as a means of furthering his vampire rights campaign. It’s a lot easier to push for this cause when vampires are given press as being VICTIMS.

              It’s totally crooked… but makes perfect sense. And shows that in ANY political struggle, corruption and hypocrisy cut BOTH ways.

              • 154 VikingLover
                May 29, 2010 at 2:29 am

                By the way, I still totally believe that Eric gave Laf his blood because of Sookie. I think it was significant that he had Laf sell V after he arrived in Dallas. That’s just me though and it’s probably because I’m biased. lol

                • 155 MASpencer
                  May 29, 2010 at 3:13 am

                  Well even in the books, Eric usually has more than one reason for doing things. If we’re going to put it in those terms, Eric didn’t exactly lie to Lafayette about his motivations… he just didn’t tell the WHOLE truth.

                  The part he DID tell him, though, was the one he would prefer getting back to Sookie. We girls DO like to chat. And if Eric tells Lafayette that he’s offering his blood for Sookie, that ONLY makes him look better. You want to impress a girl, you’ve got to impress her friends. Every man knows that.

                  The show has made it very clear that Eric’s got an agenda: He wants Sookie. But at least he’s honest about it.

                  • 156 VikingLover
                    May 29, 2010 at 3:39 am

                    {We girls DO love to chat…You want to impress a girl, you’ve got to impress her friends. Every man knows that. }

                    Hahahaha! I love how you refer to Laf as one of the girls. lol Yes, very true. However, forcing them to sell V won’t have the same effect unfortunately. 🙂

                    It was also because of the smile Eric gave himself at the end of the convo. It was the same smile he gave himself after he let Jason off the hook in Dallas. I don’t think that was a coincidence. Of course we all know he wasn’t being altruistic, he just didn’t want to ruin his chances with Sookie.

                    I’m not sure how the V selling would all lead back to Dallas. I’m at a loss on that one. I’m sure QSA and Eric are trying to draw this person out. Of course, with all of these spoilers and promos circulating I can’t be sure of anything anymore! There are many things I am looking forward to finding out but the biggest bombshell of all is what QSA wants with Sookie. I am DYING to know the reason for her interest.

                  • 157 Ashley
                    June 2, 2010 at 2:54 am

                    @MASpencer
                    I think you’re right ERic wanted his motivation for giving Laffy blood to look better to Sookie, but that kind of backfired because Laffy told Sookie “he made me drink his motherf*ckin blood” or something like that so the “why” part of it got lost in translation,LOL.

            • 158 KPMRSE
              May 29, 2010 at 9:54 pm

              What if pussylover9 is Nan from the AVL?

          • May 29, 2010 at 1:09 pm

            And wasn’t the Dallas number changed from the books? There would be no reason if the number wasn’t significant.

            I’ve been looking into the symbolism. Nothing’s really jumping out at me except that it’s associated with immortality.

            • 160 MASpencer
              May 30, 2010 at 4:40 am

              Off the top of my head… magic. Love potion #9 (and the corresponding Magic Hat beer, which is very tasty) are immediate associations for me. This is especially interesting, given the established effects of vampire blood.

              Not sure if that’s what they were going for. But… it could be.

  19. 161 Gigi
    May 28, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    m… Perhaps in TB the character of SA is actually mixed with the one of Jake Purifoy, the were that was turned into a vamp by Hadley. That might explain her “obsession with light and sunlight” and her need to act as if she can still walk during the day. But especially, it also would be a very good answer about why the hell her fangs are so huge compared to the ones of any other of the vampires on the show. And to be honest, everytime I see her with her mouth open and her fangs out, the only thought that crosses my mind is: ” Oh My… gran, what BIG teeth you have!

    Also, she seems to be wearing a grey wolf pelt in the last pic (but I’m not expert, so…)


  20. 165 MollyS
    May 28, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Random thought that occurred to me as I read this post: All the vampire women associated with TB Bill have red hair. Well, Lorena’s is kind of reddish brown, but close enough, while QSA and Jessica are quite similar in coloring. I don’t know what this might mean, and I don’t mean to get SVB off on another rant about Eric’s hair, but I just thought it was interesting.

    • 166 pennydreadful
      May 28, 2010 at 11:47 pm

      Molly- I don’t know if it means anything but I found this bit of info from Wikipedia:

      “Montague Summers, in his translation of the Malleus Maleficarum,[52] notes that red hair and green eyes were thought to be the sign of a witch, a werewolf or a vampire during the Middle Ages”

      I also know that in various cultures through out history red hair has been associated with a lustful nature, aggressive temperament, and/or witchcraft.

      • 167 MASpencer
        May 29, 2010 at 12:02 am

        I think this could totally be significant Molly and Penny. We’ve actually kicked around a bunch of theories in the comments of the “Eric’s hair and my fragile grip on reality” posts.

        But honestly, who knows WHAT they’re doing with the hair on this show. All I know is that it’s driven poor SVB to the brink of insanity. LOL.

        • 168 pennydreadful
          May 29, 2010 at 12:06 am

          I could see how Sophie Ann being a redhead in Europe in the 1400-1500’s could really factor into her back story *ahem!*

          • 169 MASpencer
            May 29, 2010 at 12:22 am

            LOL!

            Yes INDEED. Very good call on the timeline, Penny!

            • 170 pennydreadful
              May 29, 2010 at 12:47 am

              I think there may be a clue during the endless Yahtzee fest with Eric. After Hadley dejectedly observes that the QSA has won six times in a row. The young Latvian male blood slave exclaims, “It’s magic!” At this statement, QSA becomes enraged and declares, “I don’t cheat…what would be the point?”

              • 171 MASpencer
                May 29, 2010 at 1:07 am

                Yes, definitely. That exchange would be way random otherwise.

                There’s lots of magic talk in True Blood when you think about it. In season one, Bill also refers to miracle as being the human word for magic. And then he tells Sookie that she’s his “miracle” in season 2. (BARF.)

                Anyway, I’ve wondered whether that wasn’t hinting at a little something between the lines, too.

                • 172 MASpencer
                  May 29, 2010 at 1:32 am

                  In fact, it’s worth noting that “magical thinking” is actually a psychological term attributed to pathological narcissists and folks with borderline personality disorder (among others), which describes self-delusional thoughts that people use to either protect self esteem, inflate self-importance, or instill a sense of control over the uncontrollable.

                  This ties in also a little bit with the trait of “splitting”– in which you view yourself or others as ALL good or ALL bad. It’s easy to see how this is destructive… because NO ONE can live up to standards like that. But for these types of individuals, if people (including themselves) are not the paragon of perfection and virtue, they must in fact suck and be evil. QED

                  Self-delusion (in the form of magical thinking) is often required in order to prevent the inevitable rejection (of self or others) that accompanies splitting. The two go hand in hand.

                  And Alan Ball KNOWS this.

                  • 173 MASpencer
                    May 29, 2010 at 1:54 am

                    And to continue on my psychology rant (LOL) I think that “magic” in the supernatural sense is being employed on the show as an allegory for human tendencies toward splitting and self-delusion.

                    We’ve already had this illustrated for us through Lettie-Mae. She couldn’t recover from her alcoholism by dealing with it as a real problem that requires patience and forgiveness toward yourself and others.

                    She needed to have her demon exorcised. And even when she was told that Miss Jeanette was a fraud, she refused to believe it. Because, for her, that would mean that she’s still the same “evil” person she used to be, and the cycle would be repeated all over again.

                    I’m betting we’ll see the same thing happen with Bill next season, once he realizes that his relationship with Sookie was not as “miraculous” as he thought it was. When faced with this reality, he will plummet back into the depths of depravity from whence he came. Just like a relapsed alcoholic.

                    Or not. It is HIS choice to make.

      • May 29, 2010 at 1:17 pm

        Now that is really interesting.

        There are also a number of characters whose name means red headed: Flanagan, Russell, Ginger, and Rufus. (Rufus was Hugo’s pseudonym, so there’s a bit of irony with Hugo wanting to be a vampire.)

  21. 175 ESFAN08
    May 28, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    Russell an Sophie Ann could be in on the V selling together, maybe they want everyone to think they’re enemy’s, but their secretely working together. Also if by chance Russell an Sophie Ann are enemy’s, maybe the Queen got into selling V as a way to try an dig up enough dirt on Russell to get rid of him. I could totally see Sophie Ann framing Eric an Pam if she got caught, an thought she was going down. Sophie Ann wouldn’t just be punished if caught she would lose her position as Queen so she’ll do anything to get away with this even pinning everything on Eric an Pam. However if Sophie Ann has plans on framing Eric an Pam to take the fall she better watch herself, cuz i dont see Eric letting her get away with doing that to him an Pam he’ll go after her. I’m sure he’d take his punishment, but once he got out of the trouble he’d go after Sophie Ann. Sophie Ann knows Eric is older, an therefore stronger then her she even told him that, but she hides behind her position as Queen knowing that Eric cant just outright disobey her, an get away with it cuz she’s Queen, an he has to fall in line. Sophie Ann knows Eric doesn’t wanna be King so she dont care about throwing her position around. I dont think Eric is afraid of Sophie Ann, but he knows the trouble he can get in if he dont follow her rules cuz she can turn him into the Magister. I’ve been wondering now that Bill’s been kidnapped if an when Eric calls Lorena since he told Sookie he would deal with Lorena for her, if Lorena gets off the Phone with Eric, an starts taunting Bill about how now Eric has Sookie, if Bill will end up blabbing that Eric has Humans selling V, an thats how the Magister finds out about it. Bill will be so pissed, an not want Eric getting Sookie that i do believe he would go that far an get Eric introuble. However Bill’s not realizing that by the time he comes back Sookie will be closer to Eric, an will be pissed that he turned Eric in cuz it will be obvious he did it out of revenge.

    • 176 Dee
      May 29, 2010 at 12:16 am

      Interesting Esfan, I didn’t think about them working together. I do think there is a possibility that SA starting dealing to somehow get to russell’s were’s and therefore bringing down Russell by associating him with the were’s and V and his possible V dealing(if he does this that is)

      Now I have to play out the scenario if they were in on it together. I figure the best way is to do it the way Dr. House does lol, go through every single scenario, first you have to eliminate what doesn’t work or what it can’t be before you come up with the answer lol. Thank god this show is starting in two weeks lol

    • 177 Mony
      May 29, 2010 at 12:29 am

      i’m with u in this!!!!
      I guess SA is using Eric and Pam for a safe exit in case the Magistert accude her for selling V…i mean who knows about her actibity?nobody….except maybe her guards and Hadley who was there….
      But Lafayette knows Erci and Pam only, and Bill the same…..
      We know for sure that Bill is going to make an alliance….for what?and against who?
      i think it’s this that we have to figure out!

  22. 178 Gigi
    May 29, 2010 at 12:03 am

    I actually think SA was a werewolf before she was turned into a vampire.

    I already posted a comment with my rationale for it a while ago, but is awaiting moderation because it has two pics…

    • 179 MASpencer
      May 29, 2010 at 12:30 am

      Ooooh, want to see this!

      There are speculations abound with regard to Eric and Russell along those lines, as well. I’m sure it will hold true for ONE of them.

      I was wondering myself today whether Eric’s FATHER (Ulfric) was a werewolf who married a human (Eric’s mother). If this is the case, since it violates convention with respect to breeding and responsibility to the pack, his underlings may have turned on him and killed him (with Russell’s help, in all likelihood).

      Therefore, Eric would hate werewolves… even though his father WAS one. That’s just one of a million potential scenarios, though!

  23. 180 Mony
    May 29, 2010 at 12:19 am

    I’ve read all of your comments….wow!
    I’ve few questions now:

    1-Lafayette has a new boyfriend….who is he and what is he?
    2-What do we know about Franklin?
    3-How was Godric before?i mean we know how he was when he met the sun….but before?
    4-Who is Yvetta?
    5:where the hell is Steve Newlin???

    just saying…..

    • 181 Dee
      May 29, 2010 at 12:29 am

      Mony,

      1-Lafayette has a new boyfriend….who is he and what is he? As far as I know from the casting call, he is human but who knows. He works at the retirement home or whatever it is, where Laf’s mother lives

      2-What do we know about Franklin? He is in BT finding out information about Bill and Sookie. In the review today it says that what he knows will change our perceptions about events very early on in the beginning of the show

      3-How was Godric before?i mean we know how he was when he met the sun….but before? No clue, not sure if they’ll go same route as book. But he’ll be in Eric’s flashbacks this season so I’m sure we’ll know more. Some believe that Russell might be Godric’s maker, but of course just a theory for now

      4-Who is Yvetta? A czech stripper. Some believe she is a were and connected to Hallow. Others believe a spy somehow, maybe the queen

      5:where the hell is Steve Newlin??? I don’t know but I hear Sarah Newlin will be on this season

      • 182 Ashley
        May 29, 2010 at 12:37 am

        So Franklin Mott might find out about Bills little mission huh? I dont know about revealing the edict this season. Does everyone think that will be revealed this season as opposed to later on?

        • 183 Dee
          May 29, 2010 at 12:40 am

          It’s a possibility, I’m trying to think of what else Franklin Mott can know that would change our perception of an event in beginning of show. So it’s very possible, and I hope it is.

          • 184 Ashley
            May 29, 2010 at 3:05 am

            yeah well basically the entire first season focused ont he murders in Bon Temps and Bill and Sookie. So im guessing that it has to be about Bill and why he was there and why he did certain things. HMMM…interesting

      • May 29, 2010 at 12:39 am

        What if Franklyn is somehow connected to Bill’s mission? He “will change our perceptions about events very early on in the beginning of the show”…

      • 187 MASpencer
        May 29, 2010 at 12:44 am

        NO silly!!! Jesus is a wereflamingo from Miami!!! 😉

      • 188 Serena
        May 29, 2010 at 12:53 am

        No Russell is not Godric’s maker, Godric killed his maker, a very rare feat. .. there’s more to this in the Blue Ray commentary.

        • 189 Dee
          May 29, 2010 at 12:55 am

          Ah so that mystery is solved then, thank you Serena.

        • May 29, 2010 at 2:40 am

          Really? Wow. Which ep is that on? I’ve only listened to the commentary for Frenzy and Timebomb so far.

          • 191 Serena
            May 29, 2010 at 3:55 am

            Not sure when its first mentioned, there is more to it so I’ve heard about Godric,… I’ve yet to watch the first 6, I’m working on the later ones. Pam does mention it in “Release Me.”

            Pam: Lorena at Bill’s room, Hotel Carmilla
            Nice kicks, Lorena. I suppose if it were Bill’s time it would not be a bad way to go, staked by $600 stilettos. He knows fighting Lorena is a hopeless cause. A maker is always stronger than her progeny. Godric is one of the rare vampires in history to have taken on his maker and won. Which is why he is Godric and Bill is… well, Bill.

            There are some other unique bits in these things, Renee put up at the Ancient Pythoness so far episodes 1, 2, 6, 7.

        • 192 legalease
          May 29, 2010 at 3:31 am

          Wow – I just knew that Russell was his maker. It would have been the perfect reason for why Eric has waited over 1000 years to enact his revenge. So, I wonder how the show will explain it. Godric’s death is the only reason I can think of as to why Eric is finally carrying it out because it’s not like Russell has been in hiding — he’s the King of MS & a prominant vamp rights advocate FFS!

      • May 29, 2010 at 1:33 pm

        In the character profile, Pam says that Godric was captured during one of Caesar’s invasions of Gaul. He was a very young boy at the time. He was sold into slavery in Rome and bought by a vampire who used, abused, and branded him. His master turned him when he was 16. He learned all that his master had to teach and then killed him. Pam say it is practically unheard of in the vampire world and led to Godric going on the lamb for centuries. He had always been fascinated by armies and battle, so he went from battlefield to battlefield, feeding on the dead and dying and fighting himself in night raids.

    • 198 Gigi
      May 29, 2010 at 12:35 am

      Actually, all those answers can be found in a lot of older SVB’s posts, Mony. Go and take a look to them, all of them are great and worth the time to be read. It also helps her to mantain the comments on the topic she wants to discuss at each of her posts.

      • 199 Mony
        May 29, 2010 at 12:39 am

        yeah…what i wanted to ask was who REALLY they are…i mean i know from the casting call what they should be…but what they are hiding is what bother me right now….’couse we all now that in TB nothing is what it’s seems…..

        • 200 Gigi
          May 29, 2010 at 1:00 am

          As I said, you can find most of those answers in older posts hon, go check them. It’s impossible to open a broad discussion about the questions you raised about ALL of those characters in a post that she wrote to discuss Sohpie Ann, her story arch and the characters related to it. Especially after SVB has been pointing out she want to organize the comments on her blog.

      • May 29, 2010 at 2:42 am

        Thanks Gigi.
        There is a new post for the advance review.
        Can we please return this one to topic.
        Tks, SVB

  24. 202 Dee
    May 29, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Ok here is what I don’t get right now. IF Russell is missing in episode 10 and Magister comes in around ep 10 or 11, then how does a drug raid happen in episode 12. I would suspect that if there is a trial it will happen before episode 12 or even if it is during episode 12, how can they be on trial and plan this big drug operation which gets raided. So QSA, Eric and Pam might not be behind what happens in the drug raid. But we also don’t know if there will be a trial. We see the magister in Fangtasia so maybe he deals with Eric only, maybe has him set up SA? That would explain how the events in ep 12 still go through.

    Then again it can be russell behind this operation. Also, I read recently that Eric’s revenge plan will gradually unfold throughout the season. Is this a part of his plan?

    Also, what could be the reason for Russell missing?

    • 203 Mony
      May 29, 2010 at 12:42 am

      But we know that Eric makes testament in ep 10…so I assume he’s preparing for a trial and he’s preparing for a cruel punishment…a one that will probably keep him far from his bar and his state for many years..or a death penalty…we know that first punishment for Bill should be stay in a coffin for 5 years….
      I’m wondering if Eric Amensia could be a punishment….

      • 204 Dee
        May 29, 2010 at 12:51 am

        That is why I think that Russell is dealing V and the drug operation gets raided. Seems like they are going on trial and I can’t seem them still going through with something so big in episode 12.

        I’ve thought about it being his punishment, i’m curious though how that would play out though in S4. No reason to really hide then.

        • 205 VikingLover
          May 29, 2010 at 1:48 am

          It may not be resolved in S3. It will probably carry over into S4 and possibly why Eric is spelled with the amenisa.

    • 206 LydiaB
      May 30, 2010 at 3:31 am

      I think the “revenge” plot might tie into Russell as well? He is extreeeeeeeeemely old, and who knows, maybe Russell and Eric’s dad kicked it back in the day, lol.

  25. 207 Aposmeal
    May 29, 2010 at 1:29 am

    IMO Eric and Pam will not be up before the Magister. I think the Magister arrives because of Jessica’s activities. I think the DEA agent will be looking to bust the V dealers but will want the top party. I don’t think The Magister and the DEA agent are in the same arc as we are dealing with two separate legal systems.

    • 208 Dee
      May 29, 2010 at 1:38 am

      No the magister does arrive because of the V dealings. Ivanjek(sp?) the actor who plays the magister did an interview this week and his appearance on S3. He said that he’s there because the queen is allowing V dealing in Louisiana and Eric and Pam are running it.

      • 209 Dee
        May 29, 2010 at 1:43 am

        this is part of it that was reported, but in his own words thats when he mentions the queen allowing it and pam and eric running it. But here is just a small part of it

        “As first reported by TV Guide, you can look for him to crack down on the illegal V trade in Louisiana during season three. This will create problems for the Queen, Eric and Pam because they are all key players.

        Zeljko was deliciously evil in Season one, and I’m sure he won’t disappoint in Season three either.”

  26. 210 Aposmeal
    May 29, 2010 at 2:18 am

    It would be such a shame to not have the witch wars. Eric needs a new bartender.

  27. 211 lala
    May 29, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    I agree with those who posted at the top of this thread that AB making Sophie Anne into a nutjob a la Maryanne would be a grave error.
    i love the TB sophie anne. And I love hadley. They looked cute together in season 2’s scenes. Sophie Anne glared at hadley whenever she mentioned sookie. As if Sophie anne did not want bill to know hadley and sookie knew each other. But hadley spoke to bill, and bill already knew sookie and hadley were cousins.
    I wonder where AB will take this.

  28. 212 Seán
    May 29, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    I too was watching the audio commentary for Season 2 last night and Alan Ball, I think, said “I love how Sophie Ann is giving advice to Hadley and Lutis (the Latvian boy)” and then Minahan pondered “I wonder if she plans on turning him”. I wonder if this was a hint – we know Sophie Ann turns Hadley, could Lutis stand in for Andre in the show? I find it unusual we haven’t met Andre so far on the show – he’s a pretty big part of SA’s life.

  29. 213 LydiaB
    May 30, 2010 at 3:13 am

    AB’s characterization of the Queen is VERY different from the books, which is why I quite liked her on the show (in the second episode she appeared. The first one as just her yapping on and on about the maenad). I knew early on that AB said the queen in the show would be a lot more along the lines of a petulant child at first, but would later delve into her more ruthless side, but I guess not everyone heard that, considering the reactions she got and how people were mad it’s not like she was in the book.

    Are we allowed to post spoilers here? a casting call for the finale includes a DEA agent who heads a massive drug bust, so it’s either on Eric/Pam or QSA, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the latter.

  30. 214 Angie
    May 31, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    I’ve always suspected that QSA’s V-selling could have something to do with the fact that her financial empire may have taken a hit from Katrina. The book series obviously began before Katrina, but it is mentioned in the sixth book, when the Queen is introduced, that the vampires’ economy suffered along with the humans’.

    Theory: True Blood started after Katrina (hell, the hurricane was mentioned in the first scene of the show), so it’s possible that many of the queen’s endeavors have been a way to offset the monetary damage to her state’s vampire heirarchy as a result of that disaster. (Is it possible that vampires have to pay taxes to the kings and queens? lol I can’t imagine they wouldn’t have to.) I have actually suspected that Eric may have only started Fangtasia because he was ordered to, to make money for the state. (I mean, Eric’s not exactly a “people person”, at least as far as humans go anyway.) Maybe the Queen even has a stake in the club (which would explain why she just randomly shows up there in the new promos).

    If Louisiana is financially weak, then Russell may see this as an opening for a takeover. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see a war between Louisiana and Mississippi eventually (similar to the Nevada takeover from the books). In that case, I would say that Sophie-Anne’s days are numbered, and the real battle will come down to Russell vs. Eric (and possibly some allies – it would be awesome is Sookie, Sam and some other supes ended up being aligned with Eric, since Russell is clearly the greater evil).


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ABOUT SOOKIEVERSE

My ramblings on the Sookie Stackhouse books, and the HBO series True Blood. Everyone I know is already half crazed with my plot and character assassinations, conspiracy theories, theme explorations and general obsessing, so now I'm going to share it all with you. Spoilers and Viking worship are rampant...you have been warned!

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