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True Blood Advance Review – Televisionary

Televisionary have posted an advance review of the first three episodes of season 3 – and it looks as though we are in for some interesting times, indeed.

For some reason Alan Ball seems to think we actually care about who has Bill to the point where he has sworn advance reviewers to secrecy regarding his whereabouts. I don’t give a toss about who has Bill, and as far as season cliffhangers go, it was a poor choice for holding my interest. I am bored to death with Bill and Sookie’s soap opera romance and Bill’s kidnapping interests me only in so far that we finally start to get some answers about why he is in Bon Temps and who he really is.

And from the sounds of this review, season 3 may well be the season for answers.

There’s an insidious darkness contained here (different from the frenzied excess of the Maryann storyline), one that lurks beneath the surface and threatens to pull down at least once character in its wake. Actions once done cannot be undone and several characters will learn that the past can’t ever be escaped from…

…James Frain’s Franklin Mott…uncovers a very intriguing subplot that could change our perceptions of certain events in the series’ very early days.

This is intriguing. I seem to recall a promo showing Franklin looking like he was attempting to glamour Tara, and asking her to “tell me everything you know about Bill and Sookie”. A second promo showed Franklin wandering into Merlotte’s, asking Tara if they “have any of those True Bloods” – a scene and a line very reminiscent of our introduction to Bill Compton, way back when.

It all adds up to another full tilt season, with numerous plot threads and no doubt a bazillion layers for us to spend the next year pulling to bits.

Read the full review here.

Fifteen days to go.

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171 Responses to “True Blood Advance Review – Televisionary”


  1. 1 MASpencer
    May 29, 2010 at 2:21 am

    Bill’s reason for being in Bon Temps that first night is TOTALLY COMING OUT.

    Or maybe not. It seems random that Franklin Mott would be the messenger of that news, doesn’t it?

    • 2 Dee
      May 29, 2010 at 2:26 am

      It is very random if Franklin is the one to reveal this but hey I guess it is possible. I’m all for anyone revealing this lol but does make you think if thats what its referring to. I just can’t see what else it can be, or maybe I’m just hoping for this too much and refuse to see any other reason.

      We also don’t know much about franklin yet so maybe it is possible.

    • 3 LLE
      May 29, 2010 at 1:39 pm

      It could be Bill’s past history and all the bad things he did.

  2. 4 sunnynala
    May 29, 2010 at 2:29 am

    Franklin wandering into Merlotte’s, asking Tara if they “have any of those True Bloods” – a scene and a line very reminiscent of our introduction to Bill Compton, way back when.

    And Tara asks: “Are you a friend of Bill Compton’s?”
    Franklin: “No”

    dun dun dun

    As for this:

    …James Frain’s Franklin Mott…uncovers a very intriguing subplot that could change our perceptions of certain events in the series’ very early days.

    well, I smell a Ratt. 😉

    This is my favorite part:

    All of which adds up to a hell of a beginning for a season that promises to shatter the status quo of the series

    “Shatter” the status quo? Kind of like Sam did with that mask? the ‘status quo’ is, Bill is the “tragic hero” so shatter away.

    this shit is going to be soooo good.

    • 5 MASpencer
      May 29, 2010 at 3:52 am

      Sorry, Sunny, but Bill could kill the entire town of Bon Temps and he would remain the very definition of the “tragic hero,” insofar as the rules of that genre indicate that a tragic hero be the source of his own undoing. Think Macbeth, Richard II, and Othello. These “rules” of literature have been acknowledged since Aristotle wrote Poetics.

      If you ask me, Bill’s superfans should have quit on True Blood as SOON as Alan Ball called him a “tragic hero” if they never wanted to see him fuck up. Because THAT’S what tragic heros do: They fuck up. BAD. And they pay the price for it in spades. Redemption beyond the tragic hero’s basic realization of his own fatal flaws is NOT guaranteed, nor is it even REMOTELY necessary.

      It will NOT be pretty. But there WILL be catharsis for Bill Compton… even though he’ll be getting exactly what he deserves.

      • May 29, 2010 at 5:41 am

        Exactly what I’ve been saying since I heard AB use that term, and no one would believe me. I felt just like Cassandra. Thank you for the validation, MAS.

        • 7 MASpencer
          May 30, 2010 at 5:50 pm

          I think you were TOTALLY right, Renee! 😀 Though the end result could vary wildly, nevertheless. I think it’s pretty obvious, however, that the best anyone can expect for Bill’s character is that his fate will beg for our compassion. And I’ll go on the record in saying that he and Sookie WON’T EVER get back together in a romantic sense. Again, it would cheapen the story if they did.

          In fact, these inferences make me wonder if the infamous “rape” scene won’t take on an Othello-esque flavor (a lot like Sunny has speculated) wherein someone (maybe Lorena?) takes on the role of Iago in poisoning Bill’s mind, and propelling him forward in his transgressions. (To be clear, this does NOT absolve him, any more than it did Othello in his murder of Desdemona. It just frames the events in a more tragic circumstances.) Anyway, I think that our suspicions that Bill killed his wife may fit in with this mold, even if the same type of thing doesn’t come into play with Sookie.

          And honestly, these tragic devices make me worry for Eric too. Vengeance is a classic trapping of tragedy, and I think it’s fair to guess that his own obsession with avenging whomever could prove to be his downfall. Because the un-objective passions involved in that brand of justice could completely undermine any presupposed nobility of his mission– in the same way that Eric’s execution of Royce would have been arguably more “just” if it had not been framed as an impulsive reaction to his silver assault. The very fact that Eric “lost control” by letting his anger get the best of him speaks to what could be his own undoing.

          But this is all speculation, based on where I think Alan Ball MIGHT be going with these characters. In short: I don’t think ANYONE will be let off the hook on this show.

          • May 31, 2010 at 1:11 am

            I agree completely. I think the attack and rape will be mitigated by Lorena’s presence. Bill will probably be shown to be intoxicated by the newly activated fae properties in Sookie’s blood. In his mind he’s probably fantasizing about raping and killing someone else like the stripper. The BB’s will blame it his vampire nature and Lorena and absolve Bill.

            Since Eric is depicted as a much more enlightened figure than Bill, I do think that Eric has the ability to learn from his mistakes before they lead to his downfall. I’m hoping,anyway.

      • 9 LLE
        May 29, 2010 at 1:42 pm

        I wonder if AB is planning on killing off Bill.

        • 10 Kathy
          May 29, 2010 at 2:00 pm

          Not any time soon. Stephen said near the beginning of the series that they signed contracts for, I believe 7 years. Someone here must know the extact number. And no matter what we think of Bill, he, Eric and Sookie are the main characters, AB won’t kill them off. And I’m pretty sure Sam is safe.

          • 11 LLE
            May 29, 2010 at 2:09 pm

            I mean in the future. Bill is a doom character. I can see the last season that AB kills Bill.

            • 12 LydiaB
              May 30, 2010 at 3:36 am

              Oh yeah, in the last season maybe, but no way before that. I think AB wants Stephen Moyer for himself, lol.

        • 13 MASpencer
          May 30, 2010 at 4:43 am

          He totally could kill him off, LLE. It would fit the “tragic hero” mold, that’s for sure.

  3. 14 Orientalthorn
    May 29, 2010 at 2:33 am

    I agree with you SVB. Don’t give a flying hoot who took Bill and I don’t think I’d care if they never let him go! Interesting about Franklin, I still think that he has connections with Russell and could have been sent to BT to learn more about Bill and Sookie. He could be trying to find out what QSA is up to, watt her interest is on Sookie. Russell probably knows or suspects Bill’s involvement in procuring Sookie for QSA.

  4. 15 Jo
    May 29, 2010 at 2:40 am

    I remember that once he finished the second season, AB gave an interview and the interview ended when AB asked the reporter if he would not ask who kidnapped Bill, hahahah I found totally hilarious because the interviewer did not even bother with it.

  5. 16 Kathy
    May 29, 2010 at 2:40 am

    {I don’t give a toss about who has Bill, and as far as season cliffhangers go, it was a poor choice for holding my interest} LOLZ

    Here’s what I think after the “Franklin ‘What to you know about Bill & Sookie'” scene.

    Franklin was sent by the Queen, after Eric told her Bill love Sookie to find out what the hell is going on in Bon Temps. That way AB can make Eric complicit, if the Queen had Bill kidnapped.

  6. 19 VikingLover
    May 29, 2010 at 2:41 am

    It’s very odd that AB made that request considering that we’ve seen the promos of Bill standing alongside Russell AND with Lorena. I would say we all already know who took him – unless there is a big, big, big twist to the story.

    • 20 sunnynala
      May 29, 2010 at 2:45 am

      Absolutely, RE and Lorena have him and they sent the werewolves to snatch him. Now the WHY of it all might be a huge twisty shocker.

    • 21 Dee
      May 29, 2010 at 2:48 am

      AB did say this week that even book readers will be surprised by who kidnapped Bill. This is what is confusing me, but it’s possible he is trying to throw us off I guess. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s someone none of us suspected.

      • 22 Serena
        May 29, 2010 at 2:52 am

        Royce? lol.

      • 25 MASpencer
        May 29, 2010 at 3:00 am

        You mean Maxine Fortenberry didn’t actually do it?

        I think there will be a twist. And the only possibility I can see being out of left field for book readers– as werewolf bikers, Russell, and Lorena were ALL involved in his kidnapping in the SVM, too– is if it was the Fellowship of the Sun. Or the Queen herself.

        • 26 Kathy
          May 29, 2010 at 3:02 am

          Yep. That’s what I said above. I think it was the Queen.

        • 27 Kathy
          May 29, 2010 at 3:04 am

          Though Steve Newlin would be interesting too.

          • 29 Vikingvampgirl
            May 29, 2010 at 1:19 pm

            If it turns out to be Eric, I will tap out of true blood on sheer principle. This is the last season I’m giving AB to stop fucking around with my Viking. I don’t know how much more I can take.

            • May 29, 2010 at 3:12 pm

              It won’t be Eric. The reviewer wants to make us still suspect about him but seriously, Eric has no reason at all to kidnap Bill.

              • 32 LLE
                May 29, 2010 at 5:12 pm

                Eric has two reasons for Bill be kidnapped.

                1. Bill knows that he selling vampire blood.
                2. Eric wants Sookie.

                I don’t think Eric did it.

            • 33 sunnynala
              May 29, 2010 at 5:17 pm

              VL, I will also be pissed beyond reason if it turns out Eric is behind the kidnapping. First of all, it makes no sense for Eric to have dunnit. With Bill gone he’s in deep shit with the queen. Second of all, if he’s dunnit in spite of knowing he will be in deep shit with the queen then it will make him look like a desperate fool and I will not tolerate that LOLLL!!!

              • 34 LLE
                May 29, 2010 at 5:39 pm

                I don’t think it’s Eric because he wants Sookie and he knows that Sookie could find out the truth and Sookie would not want anything to do with him.

                Sooner or later, Eric is going to turn on the Queen. The Queen is very crazy vampire and Eric has no respect for her.

      • 36 EricObsessed
        May 29, 2010 at 2:41 pm

        AB must be trying to throw us off. I thought I remembered him saying the book readers would already know who kidnapped Bill. I think it was even an HBO promo but I’m not sure which one.

        • 37 sunnynala
          May 29, 2010 at 3:43 pm

          Yes he did, which just goes to show you can’t trust a thing that man says off script. His ‘spoilers’ are anything but, and his character ‘assessments’ are a load of crap–unless people want to believe AB really can’t understand Eric’s appeal.

  7. 39 VikingLover
    May 29, 2010 at 2:53 am

    {Actions once done cannot be undone and several characters will learn that the past can’t ever be escaped from… (This is especially true in Episode Three, “Scratches,” written by Alexander Woo.)}

    Did the Reviewer make a mistake here? Surely he didn’t really mean “Scratches” did he?

  8. 45 VikingLover
    May 29, 2010 at 3:00 am

    That was THE most annoying review I have ever read. I didn’t learn didley squat. The guy kept going in circles. I thought it was absolutely awful.

    • May 29, 2010 at 3:09 am

      Yeah I agree.
      Aside from the thing about Franklin digging up Bill’s dirty secrets, it didn’t tell us anything we didn’t already know.

      • 47 Ashley
        May 29, 2010 at 3:12 am

        yeah it didnt but i dont want to know too much before the show starts anyways. Plus, the stuff about Franklin sounds promising for the end of heroic Bill, so its a start.

      • 48 Andy
        May 29, 2010 at 4:08 am

        We all know the advance reviewers aren’t allowed to spill any real dirt or they don’t get screeners any more. I’m glad not to know too much in advance and this made me more excited about season 3.

  9. 49 Ashley
    May 29, 2010 at 3:11 am

    Well some people (not me) probably care who took Bill but i dont. And i think there are other reasons that AB doesnt want people knowing who took Bill. Bills storyline is pretty much a mystery this season. I mean the only clips weve seen are of him with the weres, the brief stuff with Lorena, and the phone call clip when he tells Sookie he doesnt want to be found. So Bills storyline in general is being kept under wraps, because its going to be the most shocking im guessing. Otherwise why so secretive.

  10. 50 Dee
    May 29, 2010 at 3:32 am

    For some reason, I feel Franklin is connected to the magiester in some way (vampire politics). Also they both have that intensely intimidating/deceptive persona.

    Hmm…Just food for thought.

    • 51 Dee
      May 29, 2010 at 3:38 am

      Can I say how confused I was when I saw this, I thought huh I didn’t write that lol

    • 52 Dwimordene
      May 29, 2010 at 9:41 am

      Mmmm… The magister was ready for Bill change of punishment, so he knew already what had happened, though there are many mysteries around him yet (The excuse he told for the change was as lame as all excuses vampires tell to cover their purposes, lol… Everybody knows but no one has facts, lol). Surely they seem quite alike, it would be a nice discovery if they have a conection. His means to scout? He was intelligent, he would be overpowered easily if he wasn’t one step ahead of others, as all vamps do in their bussineses.

    • 53 eowyn
      May 29, 2010 at 9:59 am

      Well, we think alike…My 1st thoughts of FM was that he was connected to the magister..but why the nagister would be interested in Bill and Sookie..only thing I can think of is the sub plot of Bill working for the Queen…

      I’m rethinking that idea tho!

    • 55 Jan
      May 29, 2010 at 1:04 pm

      I think so too .
      Franklin works for him I bet
      Word got back that about the Queen and Bill.
      Who ever got Bill may they kept him.
      The Magiester will fine out the queen is selling blood.

  11. May 29, 2010 at 5:07 am

    This is not the right thread and I apologize. Last winter, when we all were so desperate for DITF, this site was allot more fun. No one is at fault, it’s the success of the board I suppose. Then when DITF finally came out, the boards were so full of individuals that it did not seem like we had discussions.

    And True Blood the show, maybe i am the only one, but i could barely care less that it’s about to start — And for reasons and opinions this board helped me reconcile over the winter. Alan Ball will make another mess of it this season. I expect going in that I won’t enjoy it this year. So I have given zero attention to the hype.

    Maybe I will be pleasantly surprised, but I am looking forward more to next winter when this board is back to focusing on the SVM again. I won’t cancel HBO if the show surprises me.

    • May 29, 2010 at 5:59 am

      Aw Dan.
      I know what you mean.
      There’s a few changes coming soon to address this, I hope you’ll feel better about things then.
      I’ll do a post soon so you guys can all give me some feedback too on what you’d like to see.

  12. 58 Dee
    May 29, 2010 at 5:38 am

    I was wondering how would Franklin know about Bill seducing Sookie for the SA, that’s if this is what he reveals. It is possible if let’s say there was a rumor SA was trying to get a telepath to work for her. Not sure how others would find out but there can always be a rat in SA’s queendom, maybe SA being excited about this revealed it to the wrong person. Franklin could have been sent by another King or Queen, to find out if this is true and try to see if they can get Sookie for their own kingdom.

    • 59 Dwimordene
      May 29, 2010 at 9:44 am

      Since Sookie was sent to Dallas a lot of vamps know about her, begining by the AVL 😀

      • 60 Dee
        May 29, 2010 at 7:30 pm

        GREAT POINT!!! makes it even more likely that someone else would want Sookie for their own kingdom. Quite a few vamps are aware of this after she went to Dallas and I’m sure word already start spreading just like in the books.

  13. 61 Mony
    May 29, 2010 at 10:17 am

    I.HAD.ENOUGH.OF.BILL.AND.ALL.OF.HIS.STORIES.
    after that….i just want to see his story only, and just ONLY it’s useful to let many people open thei eyes on him….or if Alan Ball gives him what he deserves.

    I always thought that Franklin Mott is in Bon temps for a “price”…LongShadow’s death….since AB changed that little part in S1…..and that doesn’t mean he will have what he was looking for if Bill and Sookie are not together in the end….(God please let this happen, i’ve enough of them!)

  14. 62 Dunkinstiks
    May 29, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Are we really that sure that Bill is going to have a “big bad”? I mean come on this is AB we are talking about and I have this horrible feeling that since he refuses to do any of the significant plot lines from the books, that we may never see Bill fall!

    • 63 AstralRomance
      May 29, 2010 at 2:44 pm

      I wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out that Bill has been working for the Magister all along as some type of investigator. Considering how AB has written the character in the past two seasons I would be very surprised if he did have a “big bad”. I really don’t care what Bill is doing as long as I get plenty of Eric I’ll be happy.

      • 64 Dee
        May 29, 2010 at 2:58 pm

        If he doesn’t do anything bad then AB takes away from the character the exact thing he liked him for in the books. He liked Bill because he was the tragic hero, so if that’s a big aspect of the books that he liked I cant see him not doing it on the show. If Bill doesn’t mess up and Sookie stays with him, then he is not a tragic hero like he has already been labeled by AB.

        AB will show bad things Bill does but will make sure to let the viewers see how much he is suffering for his mistakes. He will want viewers to feel bad for him, he knows not all will but he still wants some of the audience to feel bad for a man who made mistakes, lost his love and forever suffer. This is why I think the things he will do wrong will be normal vampire nature type stuff that we cant hate him more than other vampires for what he has done and then mostly things he did to betray Sookie. Nothing that will make him look like a monster to viewers, he still wants people to sympathize with Bill.

        • 65 sunnynala
          May 29, 2010 at 3:37 pm

          I am one of those who will never be able to sympathize with a ‘tragic hero’ who has behaved as Bill has.

          this, from Renee and Serena’s Blu Ray commentary transcriptions:

          Same scene, after Bill walks over to the couple
          FYI: Bill and Lorena had a variety of alter-egos, though Faviana and Guillaume were two of their favorites. While the characters they played often changed, the ritual remained the same.

          So we know now that what Bill and Lorena did to the Chicago couple they did over and over and over. These are not ‘mistakes’, this is a pattern of evil conduct. And we know Bill went directly to Malcolm and the gang after Lorena so he didn’t change then. Now he’s on a mission for the queen in which he has profoundly deceived Sookie over and over on a number of levels so we know he hadn’t changed when he first came to BT, nor has he stopped killing since no matter what his ‘justifications’ are.

          Are we to believe such a man has been or can be ‘changed by the love of a good woman’? How many times have we told ourselves or our friends that we can’t change a man, especially one who is abusive and violent? How many serial killers have suddenly stopped killing because he fell in love with someone? Has Bill actually stopped being abusive or manipulative? Or has he consistently shown the same behaviors with Sookie?

          When, exactly, did Bill “change” or even acknowledge his ‘mistakes’? If he has I must have missed it.

          Bill is neither tragic nor a hero. His VICTIMS are the tragic ones. Bill is a villain of the highest order, one who is so adept at deceptive con games that even the audience is willing to give him the benefit of the doubt no matter how many heinous acts they witness him committing.

          I realize I am practically alone in this assessment but it wouldn’t be the first time I’ve gone against the flow and I daresay it won’t be the last.

          • 66 Dee
            May 29, 2010 at 3:50 pm

            But I don’t sympathize with him either, I don’t think most of us do on here. Even in the books, we are not fans of his character. But there are people who are BL’s. Being a tragic hero, you’ll have two sides, those who feel he made his bed and now has to lay in it and then you’ll have the other side who will just think but he loves her so much and blah blah blah. I don’t agree with them but it’s just the way it is.

            All I mean is that AB will do just enough to Bill’s character where you’ll have some who still love him and then those of us who will hate him and not forgive him. I’m not saying he will be the tragic hero we will ALL sympathize with.

            • 67 sunnynala
              May 29, 2010 at 4:00 pm

              Ok, I can agree with this Dee. What I think will happen is that AB will push the envelope to the max, taking Bill further and further down a moral abyss just to see how far his fans will follow him.

              I know this example is a little over-the-top but it does apply: It was the same in Nazi Germany. The people (not all of them obviously) tolerated more and more and more abuses from Hitler and the gang but they justified and excused right to the point of their own destruction. One of the mysteries of history is how such an enlightened, sophisticated, and educated people could continue to be blinded by Hitler. What made them so profoundly compromise their own integrity to keep Hitler on his pedestal, literally and in their own minds?

              • 68 Dee
                May 29, 2010 at 5:30 pm

                Anything is possible, don’t get me wrong. I have no clue what AB really has planned. For now, I am just looking to see Bill make same or similar mistakes he did in the books. Anything after that is just extra I supposed. I’ll be happy with seeing him making same mistakes as the books.

                • 69 Ashley
                  May 29, 2010 at 6:40 pm

                  well if he reignites his relationship with Lorena it will be a lot worse than the books because hes not required to obey her anymore because she released him. This is a small, but significant fact. She can physically overpower him, but cannot command him to do anything. He has to be willing or give in of his own free will. A lot of people excused the Lorena events in the books sayin that she was Bills maker and he had no choice, and that wont apply here. Plus i think there will be other thing0s he does besides the Lorena thing. And on the show he breaks up with her on the phone. In the books he hasnt yet told her that he didnt want to be with her anymore, so they were technically still a couple. So it already looks like Bills wrongdoings will be much worse.

                  • 70 sunnynala
                    May 29, 2010 at 6:47 pm

                    Oooohhhh, you know what? I wonder if that ‘date rape’ convo between Tara and Arlene will be foreshadowing? I can def see Bill claiming Lorena raped him! Yes I can! But, how is that even possible? LOL!

                    • 71 Ashley
                      May 29, 2010 at 7:50 pm

                      Its not really unless she roofied him or something, which i dont know if you can even do to a vampire LOL

                  • 72 Dee
                    May 29, 2010 at 7:28 pm

                    I read about the “I release you” rule on TB from S2 dvd and so happy they did this. Now we won’t hear the excuse of “But she is his maker, he has to do whatever she wants” Now if AB added this rule, I am sure it’s for good reason.

                  • 73 mallie1
                    May 29, 2010 at 8:05 pm

                    In AB world things seem to take thier own path. After Godric banished Lorena from his area and Bill escorted her from the property he looked burdened as he watched her wisp away. To me it seemed as if he still had feelings for her and regret in his eyes as being unable to fully explain his current actions. I still question if it is love or duty for the Queen that binds him to Sookie. Or maybe I’m errantly comparing CH vision to AB greed saturated ratings hungry machine that will not be sated until emmy time rolls again.

            • 75 LLE
              May 29, 2010 at 5:06 pm

              Bill’s fans will over looked it because they will say that Bill loves Sookie so much and he will do anything for Sookie. Bill’s fans don’t care what Bill does at all.

            • 76 Ashley
              May 29, 2010 at 6:36 pm

              But even some of the BLs will probably be turned off be him, i mean not the real hard core ones but some that like both Bill and Eric will probably stop sympathizing with Bill. From what little weve been shown this season, i dont see any evidence that Bills working for the magister. Hes definitely in league with the Queen somehow, so how could he be in league with the magister too? He was with Sookie constantly over the past season. I dont know i dont see how he would have time to be some sort of double agent or whatever. The people that will still love Bill are the ones that loved him from the beginning and refuse to let go.

          • 77 LLE
            May 29, 2010 at 4:03 pm

            Bill enjoy killing the couple and they were sport for him.

            • 78 sunnynala
              May 29, 2010 at 4:07 pm

              Indeed LLE.

              Honestly, if all vampires are capable of doing the things Bill has done–including rape because he’s hungry–then the FoTS is right and every single one of the Hell Beasts should be tied to a cross in the yard and wiped off the map.

              • 79 LLE
                May 29, 2010 at 4:10 pm

                I had feeling Bill and Loraine rape and killed them as sport. The rape seen was not shown. They were suppose to be shown on script but AB did not want viewers to see what Bill how bad Bill is.

              • 80 pennydreadful
                May 29, 2010 at 8:28 pm

                Absolutely, Sunny. If every vampire behaves like Bill and Lorena, then the FoTS are unsung heroes engaged in a noble cause. However, that works against the internal logic of TB. Thus far, they’ve been portrayed as ignorant intolerant bigots and terrorists.

                I have no doubt that all vampires have had to engage in ethically questionable behavior through out history in order to survive yet I do not believe that they are evil as a group. As evidenced through out the show, vamps hold a wide spectrum of attitudes in regards to their relationship with humans. (Much in the same way that humans have varying attitudes to our relationship with other animal species.)

                Some (like Godric) believe, that as sentient creatures, human beings deserve equal consideration with vampires and that both races can learn to co-exist peacefully. Others, view themselves as a link in the natural food chain… they simply want to feed and have no desire to sadistically “play” with their food. Others also have a genuine affection for humans and keep them as “pets”. Finally, there are vampires like Bill and Lorena who have engaged in cruelty, torture, and murder because they actually enjoy seeing “lesser beings” suffer

                • 81 LLE
                  May 29, 2010 at 8:50 pm

                  Godric was right what he had told Eric and I hope Eric follow his advice. Eric had great maker and that why Eric is great maker himself.

                  • 82 VikingLover
                    May 30, 2010 at 6:43 pm

                    Pennydreadful, I agree with you. The one thing I love about this show is that no one is exempt: Vamp, Human, Were. All are capable of both evil acts and acts of love. On the show we have seen human beings act just as cruelly and perverse: Rene, FOTS, Royce & Co, that Voodoo Lady (can’t remember her name). The Voodoo Lady didn’t kill anyone but she lied and cheated Tara and her Mother out of money by selling them false dreams and hopes. She played on their vulnerabilities.

                • May 30, 2010 at 11:16 pm

                  pennydreadful – check your email?
                  SVB

          • 84 Jo
            May 29, 2010 at 4:07 pm

            Sunny you are not alone, I can not agree with all his theories (even if they are all wanting right) there is no redemption for Bill Compton the end for TB, disturbs me to think that we can get to the end of it and think it will have any forgiveness. AB is doing the fall of the Bill much worse than in books, and I will be deeply upset at the end, you still have people who can excuse their actions: but he is a vampire, is his nature, he is not guilty (and all this vampire bullshit)

            • 85 Dee
              May 29, 2010 at 5:36 pm

              But in the books there hasn’t been any forgiveness for Bill, well not from Sookie I mean. She was able to move on and accept him as a friend in her life but she never truly forgave him or got back with him.

              I think people are misunderstanding, not saying he is meant to be forgiven by all viewers. But we all say we want to see more similarities from the books on the show. We want Eric portrayed like book eric and bill portrayed like Book Bill. Book Bill made mistakes and we see that some fans still favored him, so I just suspect same will happen on the show. I am not one of those people because I never forgave Bill and I am a fan of Eric.

              Also, I am NOT saying that Bill is not going to make mistakes and do bad things. INFACT, my first post was pointing out the fact that there is NO WAY that AB won’t have Bill do bad things. Some said they felt AB will try to portray Bill as a saint forever on the show and I am saying there is no way he will do that. We will see a different side to Bill.

              • 86 Lkc
                May 29, 2010 at 6:16 pm

                I agree with Sunny. I think AB will take Bill down as far as he can to see how far the fans will follow. And I think the Bill fans will follow pretty far. I think the ones who started to see Bill for what he was in season 2 have already left. I think you may get a few more to leave, evidenced by just a few questioning his actions in the minisode, but for the most part they will not turn from Bill. I mean the fans of Book Bill have shown they will tolerate rape! They excuse it and still want Sookie back with Bill. Whatever the circumstances of the rape I could NEVER want to see that woman have sex with the rapist again, ever! But they do.

                On facebook Tina and I had some dialogue( I use that term loosely!) with a BL who claimed to have almost been a victim of rape and to have very strong feelings about it. She claims in the book it was not rape. When Tina and I showed her proof from CH’s site that it was, irregardless of what you think of the circumstances she says the posters were lying and were just rabid Eric fans. The posters were CH’s mods and CH herself. She still wouldn’t believe. She also doesn’t believe that CH herself was raped. These people don’t want to believe anything negative against Bill and they won’t. You could probably show them Bill killing Sookie and they would find an excuse! Oh and that 1 person on facebook wants to write a hate letter campaign against CH for what she’s done to Bill. ( I am sure there is a diagnosis or 2 for her on the DSM, just not sure what!)

              • 87 Dunkinstiks
                May 29, 2010 at 8:28 pm

                There are a heck of a lot of delusional people right now, including an “ex moderator”, arguing right now on the CD thread, on the CH site, that Book Sookie has forgiven Bill. Sorry I know this is OT, I’ve been trolling that site for months and noticed the posts.

                I still cant’ help but think that AB is going milk the Lorena issues and have Bill come across as unwilling victim , who was forced to do these things. I also like the idea that Bill is working for the Magistrar, it would explain the SA twist and AB’s incessant need to stray from the books and stroke his meat tree sized ego.

                • 88 LLE
                  May 29, 2010 at 8:47 pm

                  Sookie has not forgiven Bill for the right because she has not deal with it. She acts like it never happen. I seen it and I could not believed what going on CH board.

                  On TB Bill is going to make choices.

          • 89 LLE
            May 29, 2010 at 4:16 pm

            Eric killed Royce because Royce out of rage because of the silver. Eric did not Royce for sport. Royce could be alive if he did not something stupid.

  15. 90 Kathy
    May 29, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Ahhhhhhh! Don’t say that! It’s a worry in the back of mind that I keep pushing aside because it would be SO TERRIBLE if Bill continues to be put on the pedestal of Best Vamp Ever!

    • 91 LLE
      May 29, 2010 at 2:48 pm

      The only person sees Bill as the best vamp ever. Jason came around for Sookie’s sake but almost everybody don’t care for Bill. Bill did not make friends with the humans in Bon Temp at all. The only person really is blind to Bill is Sookie.

    • 92 Dee
      May 29, 2010 at 3:43 pm

      I don’t think that makes him the best vamp. He will make mistakes and do bad things, and there will be people who hate Bill for what he has done, there is no doubt about it. But I don’t think we can expect everyone to hate Bill. Just look at the books, even after everything he did in the books, you still have book readers who love Bill. So I would expect the same will happen on the show. What I mean is that we will see bill do similar things as he did in the books, which is what most of us expect. I don’t know about AB throwing in more to the point of making his character PURE evil.

  16. 93 Mony
    May 29, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    i’m not worried about that…actually we’ve already seen how bad and manipulative liar he is….but we just have to wait that even Sookie find this…maybe is a slow process who knows…but AB for me did a great job showing that he is not what everybody in that small town believes.
    And of course, peolpe see anly what they want (*cough* BL’s *caugh*)

    • 94 Seán
      May 29, 2010 at 2:46 pm

      Agreed Mony. I love this site, I love the in-depth discussions but…geez…you’re all such a bunch of Eric fangirls! Give Alan Ball time and stop dissing the show so much. Bill will be uncovered as the lying manipulative bastard he is and Eric will slowly rise on a pedestal.

      When I read the first few books (before I seen True Blood), I thought that Sookie and Bill would be together forever! I didn’t think Bill would turn out to be as bad as he was so it was a big twist in Book 6 when I found out he was sent there to seduce her by Sophie Ann. For all Bill’s flaws, he is a vampire that wants to mainstream and that is displayed in the show. The books have always implied that Eric is dangerous, that he has no interest in mainstreaming until Sookie comes along and changes all that. Bill’s motives are not fully known yet and while he is being made out to be saint-like so far, the flashbacks with Lorena tell a different story.

      True Blood might look like a trashy show that has built its audience on sex, satire, violence and supernatural but it’s an incredibly intelligent show underneath with lots of sub-texts. From watching the two seasons so far, there have been times when I have rewatched the show and noticed little things that foreshadow events of what’s to come. So please stop making out like the show is the worst thing on TV – it’s not going to live up to all the book readers expectations and I appreciated SVB’s description of it as Alan Ball’s fanfiction but we’ve only seen two seasons. Keep in mind, that the show has lots of growing to do just like the books grew from strength to strength as the series progressed and the World became richer and more realised.

      P.S. I really amn’t trying to rant at you. SVB and all the regular commenters here really do seem like intelligent people with valid opinions and I really respect what you say, it just really gets on my nerves – all this True Blood hate. You of course are entitled to your opinions but I think Alan Ball, the cast and crew are doing an absolutely fantastic job in bringing to life the Sookie World – perhaps in a largely different way from the books but the essence is still there in my opinion.

      • 95 Mony
        May 29, 2010 at 3:08 pm

        I LOVE AB, in fact for me as and Eric and Sookie’s fan (not him only for me XD) i never had a doubt of what Ball was doing…i don’t really care about style, hair and others things like that, for me in a tv show are not important, and are not key elements…of course i would love to see Eric from the books…..but i really doubt that seen someone with Sebastian Bach’s hair in tv would have the same effect that now our Alex is doing…blond or dark blond…

        I’ve always seen the books in TB, but i understand that is not the same for everybody, i understand that it could be difficult to see in TB, it depends on the way you’ve read the books….
        So i love TB, becouse for me it respect CH’s works..and she trust in him and she said that AB got her as anyonlse before…so that should mean something since we love the books also….

        Eric is grwoning very deeply, the basement scene with the sex scene it’s just another way from AB to tell everybody Hey look this is the way Eric jus have sex….and then the day he’ll have sex with Sookie or just kiss her it’s like saying Hey guy this is the way how Eric loves and made love….

        We are hungry..very hungry about Sookie and Eric becouse we love them so much so maybe we are a little impatience and sick and tired about Bill’s saint….but we should remember that S2 and even S1 if u go back and see, are full of very bad moments from him where all his true nature is revealed…i know what we want is just scream Sookie wake up girl!!!! or just scream to everybody who hate Eric Hey ladies look at you Bill now!!!

        But we HAVE to be patience…..and in the end we’ll have our moment….several moments!!!!

      • May 29, 2010 at 3:21 pm

        I’m an Eric fangirl and an E/S shipper, LOL, but I’m one of those who like TrueBlood more than the books. I know it can sound weird, because in the books there are plenty of moments between Sookie and Eric that were absent in the show, but I feel confident.
        Alan Ball took the elements from the books and he amped them up. Everything is stronger, wilder and crazier, IMO. And that, I like very much.
        Just as well as I love TB Eric who is, yes, darker than he’s in SVM, but I see the core is the same.
        Then again, it depends on how you read the books and how much you’re attached to the original storyline.
        A show like TB is like that, you love it or hate it. 🙂

      • 97 Angie
        May 31, 2010 at 10:49 pm

        Amen! I like this blog too, but the TB-hate is a bit extreme at times (understatement). I love the books, but I also think the show is brilliant in its own way, and I am always delighted by it. Yes, we are all clearly biased towards Eric’s character, but that is because he is clearly awesome in both worlds, IMO. 🙂

        True Blood wouldn’t be as popular and critically-acclaimed as it is with having something going on beneath the surface, and this show totally has it goin’ on. (Sorry, I love using outdated 90s’ slang, lol).

  17. 98 sunnynala
    May 29, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    Please forgive the ot, but is it true that the Q&A from the Truebie event will be shown online?

    • 99 Serena
      May 29, 2010 at 4:59 pm

      I haven’t heard this. I’ll be peeved if it’s livestreamed, it’s my main motivation to go. I mean I guess it will be online eventually, but still.

      • 100 sunnynala
        May 29, 2010 at 5:06 pm

        Serena, do you have a twitter that you can use to keep us updated while you’re there?

        • 101 Kathy
          May 29, 2010 at 5:36 pm

          I’m going too and I have twitter. ariesacts is my twitter name.

          • 102 sunnynala
            May 29, 2010 at 5:40 pm

            Thanks!

            I didn’t even try to win tickets because the nearest (actually ONLY) venue in my state is several hours away. I guess I could have gone to NOLA, two hours from me, but I wasn’t sure if we were allowed to enter to win out of our own state.

        • 103 Serena
          May 29, 2010 at 5:49 pm

          No, but I’ll set one up if you’d like. I have the tech and skills to do it. 😉

    • 106 Kathy
      May 29, 2010 at 5:30 pm

      Yes, they said it will be streamed simultaneously on the HBO site.

  18. 108 Aposmeal
    May 29, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    I know this is kinda OT but was born out of comments made by Sunny and other on many topics. I am having 22 friends and family over on the 13th for a TB party. I surveyed them regarding Bill Eric preference and political party. The attendees include two single women, one male gay couple and nine straight couples.
    All the men including the gay couple prefer Eric. The political breakdown of men was an even split between Liberal and Conservative.
    Four of the women preferred Bill, the rest preferred Eric. Three of the women who preferred Bill were Liberal. One of those three was single and one of the married Liberal Bill lovers has a Conservative partner. One of the Bill lovers was Liberal with a Liberal Partner.The Conservative Bill lover has a Conservative partner. The Eric women were split down party lines.
    I just thought you might find it interesting that there seems to be no correlation between preference and political party. I also find it interesting that Eric is preferred by men and is preferred 19 to 4 over Bill. This makes me wonder why AB panders to the 20%.

    • 109 Seán
      May 29, 2010 at 4:31 pm

      I don’t think AB panders to the 20% at all. He’s just telling the story with Bill as the good guy because he wants non-book readers to have faith in Bill and Sookie’s relationship…before snatching it all away! Muwhahaha!

      As a guy, I can tell you why I prefer Eric. Eric seems like the guy you want to hang round with, he’s cool y’know? Hanging with Bill would be a drag. He’d start going on about recycling and using his old fashioned Southern euphemisms and talking about how good mainstreaming is.

      Basically, every guy wants to be Eric. But Bill…Bill would just put a dampener on everything.

      • 110 Dee
        May 29, 2010 at 5:41 pm

        SO very true Sean. My husband prefers Eric too and for just about the same reasons you mentioned.

      • 111 Ashley
        May 29, 2010 at 6:53 pm

        LOL yeah thats what i said…AB just want everybody to be shocked by whats going to happen in Season 3. Bills a wet blanket. I think someone even mentioned that the comments on the Season 2 DVDS refered to Bill as a wet blanket in one episode. Eric is the fun and interesting one.

    • 113 sunnynala
      May 29, 2010 at 4:35 pm

      That is interesting Aposmeal, but my theory doesn’t depend on political party nor political self-identity.

      I am talking more about psychology and how people view themselves in relation to power. many people who identify as ‘liberal’ actually hold very conservative views on power and how it should be used. This is evident in the continuing excuse-making coming from so-called liberals on the many many freedom restricting actions Obama has taken that mirror GWB’s or take them even further.

      I posted a link to an article on ‘right-wing authoritarianism’ the other day, here is an excerpt:

      Right-wing authoritarianism (RWA) is a personality and ideological variable studied in political, social, and personality psychology. It is defined by three attitudinal and behavioral clusters which correlate together:[1][2]

      1.Authoritarian submission — a high degree of submissiveness to the authorities who are perceived to be established and legitimate in the society in which one lives.
      2.Authoritarian aggression — a general aggressiveness directed against deviants, outgroups, and other people that are perceived to be targets according to established authorities.
      3.Conventionalism — a high degree of adherence to the traditions and social norms that are perceived to be endorsed by society and its established authorities, and a belief that others in one’s society should also be required to adhere to these norms[3].
      The terminology of authoritarianism, right-wing authoritarianism, and authoritarian personality tend to be used interchangeably by psychologists, though inclusion of the term “personality” may indicate a psychodynamic interpretation consistent with the original formulation of the theory.

      ~~

      The “right wing” in right-wing authoritarianism does not necessarily refer to someone’s politics, but to psychological preferences and personality. It means that the person tends to follow the established conventions and authorities in society. In theory, the authorities could have either right-wing or left-wing political views.

      Of course, not all of your friends who prefer Bill are RWA’s. Mostly it’s a funcion of viewing TB as popcorn fluff that is all on the surface, everything is exactly what it seems to be and in their minds and there is no need to analyze it any further.

      IMO, on a meta level AB is putting himself/True Blood-the-show in the position of the corporate controlled mass media and is making the point that we cannot believe everything they feed us. This quote by Malcolm X is salient to this point:

      “The media’s the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that’s power. Because they control the minds of the masses.”
      -Malcolm X

    • 114 Ashley
      May 29, 2010 at 6:50 pm

      Yes ive found most guys prefer Eric, or just dont care either way. But those who do have a preference usually like Eric, including my brother, who is straight and is 21 years old. So its not necessarily an age thing either.

  19. 115 Aposmeal
    May 29, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Interesting article Sunny. Thank you.

  20. 117 Katya
    May 29, 2010 at 6:22 pm

    @Sunny- I loved your point about Bill going to Liam, Malcolm, and Dianne right after he left Lorena! It really is the ultimate point and not one I had considered and a point I will use in my argument against bill fans…

    • 118 sunnynala
      May 29, 2010 at 6:53 pm

      Thanks! Yep, but I’m hardly the first or only person to make that observation. Not only did he go directly to Malcolm from Lorena,–I guess with Lorena the thrills had gotten stale and Malcolm “you never called me back” *pout* offered ‘new’ and exciting ones– but I got the impression he was still in contact with them until recently.

    • 119 LLE
      May 29, 2010 at 7:38 pm

      Bill was bored with Lorena and he no longer wanted Lorena to controlled him. Bill still did bad things but no longer with Lorena.

  21. 120 Katya
    May 29, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    Another point: if she said “in my dreams I always say yes”….yet she cant say yes to Bill I think that foreshawdows that he isnt the right person for her…

    • 121 Ashley
      May 29, 2010 at 6:57 pm

      Yep. Ive pointed this out many times. If the first thing that enters your head when someone proposes to you is doubt, there not the right person for you. I mean, if she was sure about Bill she would have said yes right away, plain and simple. But she isnt, and this is before she knows about all his secrets and whatever hes going to do in Season 3.

    • 122 Ashley
      May 29, 2010 at 6:58 pm

      And you know what, they havent even known each other two months so i dont blame her at all for her reaction.

      • 123 Katya
        May 29, 2010 at 7:40 pm

        well not only that…I think she only said yes partly to save face with tara after the conversation they had in the minisode

    • 124 LLE
      May 29, 2010 at 7:40 pm

      Sookie decided to say yes when she put the ring on her finger. Sookie liked the ring on her hand. Deep down she knows that Bill is not right for her.

      • 125 Mony
        May 29, 2010 at 7:49 pm

        and even CH said that Sookie thinks that a classical marriage, an house, husband and children is what she wants, especially becouse of the contest and even her Gran’s attitude…but her life will let her realized that is not that what she wants or she’ll have.
        I guess when she couldn’t say YES and then actually said it wiht her ring on her fingers it’s only becouse she thinks a good girl have to find a good husband…it’s just CH’s influence or CH explaination to Ball about Sookie’s life development…
        But in that moment was exaclty Sookie from the books in an single scene.

        • 126 Ashley
          May 29, 2010 at 7:54 pm

          Yeah this is true. Book Sookie was very naive and idealistic until Bill snapped her out of that whole prince charming thing. She even mentioned several times that Bill hadnt asked her to marry him, like she would say yes if he had. So this episode does portray Books Sookies state of mind, you are right.

          • 127 LLE
            May 29, 2010 at 8:24 pm

            Sookie was very naive but she knew that she was not in love with Bill but she loved Bill. That was a clue Bill was not Sookie’s HEA.

        • 128 LLE
          May 29, 2010 at 8:21 pm

          If she pick Eric, Sookie could not spends day with him. Sookie has to figure what important marry for love or pick guy that give you children and spends time with him daylight.

  22. 129 Ashley
    May 29, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    Some of the BLs have picked up on the fact that FM might spell trouble for B/S forever and ever and they are not pleased, saying that Bills different now because he loves Sookie and FM needs to be staked.

  23. 134 Dunkinstiks
    May 29, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    I am not surprised. Some are a lot of the posters who jumped ship from the HBO site when it was “revamped”, and used to post on the so called “Train”, LOL! They used drive some posters crazy with excessive +page long rambling post just to hear themselves and droll on with Bill love. Eeeek!

    One of them, I think it is latbfan, recently did a “feature” that they were through with TB. I’m thinking they are just jumping ship because Bill may become even more of a whimp vamp than before. Most of the BL’s only read book 1&2 so why would they go beyond S2?

    • 135 Aposmeal
      May 29, 2010 at 11:58 pm

      LMAO Went to The Nest. That is some of the funniest drivel I’ve ever read.

      • 136 A Northern Soul
        May 30, 2010 at 12:23 am

        Yes, I CONCUR. LOL! I stay away from the Bill centric sites; they’re entitled to their opinions, but I want to read and post about the Viking. 🙂

        I don’t have a problem with the BL’s, though some of them are in complete denial that it’s over for Sookie & Bill. Again, they have every right to voice their opinions. What irritated me were the ones who are adamant taht it’s all about Bill, Sookie is a cold hearted bitch who’s not good enough for him, and Charlaine Harris is a lousy writer. WTF???? Alrighty then….

        • 137 Kathy
          May 30, 2010 at 12:41 am

          I love the people who say CH is a lousy writer, but love the show. As if she wasn’t responsible for these characters or the basic storylines. LOL! When I try to understand their logic, my brain twists inside my skull and I have to stop.

      • 138 Kathy
        May 30, 2010 at 12:43 am

        Didn’t you love how they edited out the complimentary comment about Eric when they posted the USA Today story? That’s what made me laugh. Then when they were called on it they all got indignant.

        • 139 A Northern Soul
          May 30, 2010 at 12:50 am

          What!? I didn’t stick around long enough to see that. Jeez, some of them are beyond denial.

          *cough* delusion *cough*

          Oh, and I’m sure they’ll think the show is the suck and Alan Ball is a total hack once Billy falls from grace. LOL

          • 140 Mony
            May 30, 2010 at 1:38 am

            *cough* delusion *cough*
            Superbe LOL
            They are in my prayer…i always hope before go t bed that a day they find againf their brain and open their little eyes and become logical….but miracles are very rare LOL

        • 141 Angie
          May 31, 2010 at 11:45 pm

          Oh, you mean the part about how Eric/Askars have about a fourth of the online comments surrounding him? LOL, sometimes I think we go overboard, but at least we aren’t in complete denial.

  24. 142 Aposmeal
    May 30, 2010 at 1:45 am

    For a good chuckle Go to the DITF review comments, I find BillsNia particularly amusing.
    Example of one of her comments below:

    “I am a fan of TB first and foremost. I wish that Alan B and the TB writers had a go at writing the books. Would have been so much better.
    I found the CH novels to be a simplistic venture at best and so loaded with inconsistencies as to want me to “bang my head” with the best of you.” She has similar comments on other posts.

  25. 143 Ashley
    May 30, 2010 at 2:15 am

    What bugs me about BLs is that they cant fathom Bill and Sookie not being together,and they consider Eric little more than a play thing with which Sookie will amuse herself until she goes back to Bill. I dont understand this mentality because in the books Sookie and Bill were together for the first two books as well, but broke up in the third. So i dont understand where this idea comes from that Sookie and Bill are the central romantic couple that True Blood is about, and any other person is just an interference. Thats what bothers me, the fact that Eric is given no credit or substance, and is belittled to the status of plaything or evil villian trying to steal Bills Sookie.

  26. May 30, 2010 at 2:22 am

    Ok guys I think we’ve veered well off topic again here.
    I’m not opposed to letting off some steam but let’s not start naming individuals and reposting their comments here. If you’d like to address what someone has posted elsewhere, the right place to do it is where they posted it originally and can respond to you.

    They have their playground, we have ours 😉

  27. 145 Denise
    May 30, 2010 at 4:11 am

    Why do y’all joke about how delusional and silly Bill fans are when it appears you’re not much better?

  28. 147 Tiny
    May 30, 2010 at 5:53 am

    I really do think Franklin is connected to the Magiester. Bill may have done something in the past to Franklin (maybe not longshadow, but something else) That caused Bill to return to Bon Temp. We know little about the Magiester so Franklin could be connected to him in a number of ways. I can’t see Franklin being connected to the Queen (because why would she want anymore vampires knowing about the V-selling) I doubt he’s connected to the Russell (He seems to have his hands full with Talbot and the werewolves).

    Also, maybe Im the only one that thinks this, but could it be possible Franklin may be older than Eric?

    Think about it..

    We know Franklin is going to be super bad and probably causing a lot of disturbance in Bon Temp. Im sure Franklin knows Eric is Sheriff and more then likely knows he’s a older vampire. But yet doesn’t feel threatened enough, not to cause trouble in his area.
    Also in the books Sookie needs Eric’s help to rescue Tara. I think AB may boost up Franklin’s age, to add a little more excitement to his character.

    Hmm..What do you guys think?

  29. 148 Dee
    May 30, 2010 at 7:25 am

    Hey Tiny! Yeah I see a few people saying that, Franklin, might be connected to the Magister. I’m curious, do people think the Magister sent him to check up on stuff in Bon Temps? It’s definitely a possibility, so just trying to figure out the connection.

    The only thing that keeps sticking out to me is the fact that Franklin will change our perception about something from the very beginning of the show and not sure how that works in with the Magister, or how it works in period I should say. I’m trying not to just be biased and assume that whatever he will change our perceptions about has to be the reason why Bill came to BT, but I can’t really think of anything else. He said that it will be something from the very beginning of the shoq so I am assuming he means the first few episodes or up to halfway through the first season. I doubt it will have anything to do with Renee murders, even if he is there because of Longshadow, I don’t see how it can change our perception about what happened. We know LS was staked, and if it were something like the reason why LS was stealing money, just doesn’t seem like an interesting story so can’t see that. I’m just really not seeing anything else besides Bill’s reason for coming to BT. Not sure if there is a connection between Franklin and QSA, but even if he is part of her Queendom or connected to her somehow doesn’t mean he has to know about V dealing. Bill is part of her Queendom and doesn’t really know what is going on and only found out when he went to Lafayette’s apartment.

    I’m remembering the trailer of someone walking into a home with cowboy boots and maybe that is Franklin. If so is that to associate him with Dallas? that would explain why he is in BT, asking about B/S. Somebody else might try to get to Sookie for her gift. But that still leaves the question of how he would know about QSA sending Bill to do the same. Maybe a spy found out about the mission or QSA blabbed which I’m not too sure about that. Is it possible Lorena sent FM to destroy the relationship and maybe even through his investigating he found out about the mission. Not sure about that either but at this point hard to connect all the pieces.

    • 149 Tiny
      May 30, 2010 at 8:11 am

      Ah great theories!
      This Franklin is really interesting! At first I thought maybe Franklin was sent by Lorena. But from the previews it looks like she has him all to herself (well maybe not all to herself..hint the threesome lol)

      Hmm.. Maybe he’s part of a vampire council and was told to check on the Bon Temp area, because of all the craziness happening, but then had his own agenda in mind. I remember in a interview with Rutina/Tara (I wish I could find it) she joked and said something referring to Franklin’s intention. She said something like “He could be there for vengeance or maybe not.”

      • 150 Dee
        May 30, 2010 at 8:46 am

        Yeah that is what doesn’t make sense about Lorena doing it.

        The only reason I am not sure about a connection with the Magister or anything like that is because FM doesn’t seem to be a vampire who follows rules. He seems like he might do things that maybe even vampires shouldn’t be doing, well at least how they should be handling themselves now that they’re out of the coffin. I can be completely wrong, but just the impression that I am getting.

        Didn’t know Rutina said that, that is interesting and might be a clue. They did say this season will deal a lot with revenge, so I think that might be his purpose. Which brings us back to LS, makes sense with Bill killing LS on TB. If not then maybe Bill and FM have some past history and Bill did something for FM to seek revenge on him now. Might not have a connection to anybody and just went there on his own to seek revenge. We also don’t know if he knows yet about Bills mission for QSA, when he first arrives in BT. FM might start figuring it out along the way and finding out about it. In the review he said something that could change our perception. So by saying that it could, means maybe that it hasn’t been revealed in the first 3 ep’s just yet. But you see in the direction FM is going and what he starts uncovering and makes it obvious what he will find out. Now if that was him going into Bill’s home with the cowboy boots, maybe Bill keeps a journal lol or some evidence that will lead Fm to find out secrets.

        • May 30, 2010 at 11:38 am

          Yes, it totally makes sense, because I don’t know how Franklyn could know about Bill’s mission and most of all why he should care about it, if he’s seeking revenge from him and he’s not a spy or something else sent from another kingdom.
          I think maybe FM arrives at BT with a revenge plan, but when he discovers that Bill’s disappeared he starts investigating to find some weak point in Bill’s life, and maybe he finds out about Bill’s mission, like a journal or some other clue as you said…

          If the mission is to be revealed in this season, FM could be a good way to introduce it.
          Because I don’t think Eric is that close to the truth and even if he is, maybe he will keep the secret for himself for the moment, not wanting to interfere with the Queen’s orders or maybe not wanting to hurt Sookie…

          • 152 Kathy
            May 30, 2010 at 12:57 pm

            All these theories are interesting but what I keep coming back to is “Tell me about Bill and Sookie.” How many vamps know about Bill AND Sookie? That’s what makes me think he’s from QSA. Yes, the Vamps in Dallas would know, but there aren’t that many of them left. Isabel is now Sheriff and I really don’t think she’d have something against the two of them, as Sookie stood by Godric. It could be the Magister, but I would think Franklin would be asking about Bill and Jessica, if that were the case. To the Magister, Sookie is just a blood bag, he doesn’t know about her power. (Didn’t Eric shush Bill when he was about to reveal her power during the trial?)

            So it leads me back to QSA, who, I’m sure, is annoyed that Bill is emotionally involved (she was very surprised when he said he was only drinking from Sookie). He’s also a danger now that he knows about Eric and the V. If Bill digs any deeper he’ll find the Queen.

            • May 30, 2010 at 1:24 pm

              I don’t like the idea of FM being sent by QSA. It would make once again Bill the poor victim of events and his love with Sookie would appear the TrueLove Against All Odds… ouch. Please tell me it’s not going to be so. 😉

              • 154 sunnynala
                May 30, 2010 at 1:34 pm

                Yeah, I don’t like it either Hime.

                I’m hoping FM is connected to Denise Rattray and he’s trying to find out what happened to her and this ties in to ‘changing our perception of events that happened very early in the series’. As someone said above, FM seems to be wearing cowboy boots so he may be connected to Dallas, and we know Denise was connected to Dallas. this would tie in to the ep title “I Smell a Rat”.

                • 155 VikingLover
                  May 30, 2010 at 6:59 pm

                  I don’t think QSA sent FM because it seems that she wants this kept under wraps. Also, Bill seems to give her status reports (she knew that he gave her his blood, etc) so she’s already well informed. She might be worried about him falling in love with Sookie but I don’t think it would prompt her to send FM to interfere. Bill didn’t really try to hide his feelings from her – he was very open about the fact that he only fed from Sookie.

            • 156 Dee
              May 30, 2010 at 2:52 pm

              Yeah but I’m sure all vamps know by now what happened in Dallas. The AVL even got involved and word definitely spread about Godric, the bombing and I’m sure even word of how Sookie tried to infiltrate FOTS.

            • 157 Ashley
              May 30, 2010 at 6:44 pm

              Well what about FM being sent by Russell? The vamps all spy on each other, and its possible that Russell has spies in QSA court that could have found out about Bill and Sookie. Why would QSA send FM to find out about Bill and Sookie? What would be his purpose? To make sure Bills still on track with his mission? Thats the only thing i can come up with, and if thats the case that wont make Bill look any less bad if you ask me.

              • 158 Dee
                May 30, 2010 at 7:13 pm

                Yeah I don’t see why QSA would send FM. She knows about B/S and Bill even confessed to being monogamous with his human and she realizes he loves her now. I think if she wanted to make sure Bill stayed on course with the mission, she’d deal with him herself.

          • 159 Dee
            May 30, 2010 at 2:59 pm

            I think this makes a lot of sense. If he knew all about Bill already, I don’t see why he would ask about Bill and Sookie’s relationship. If somebody did tell him before he arrived in BT, then they would’ve also told him that he is in a serious relationship with her and further details about B/S. If he does go to Bill’s house, I’m sure he can find something that will reveal Bill’s mission. Maybe even payments for things on QSA’s account, or some other type of paper trail. Can also explain why he helps Jessica out. It will give him the opportunity to investigate Bill even further.

      • 161 Lotus
        May 30, 2010 at 3:16 pm

        What if, and this is a BIG if, Franklin Mott was working for the government in some capacity and will be involved in the ‘V’ investigation as an undercover agent? Perhaps his motivation is one of vengeance, which we know is also Eric’s motivation this year according to an earlier interview with AS, but that he is using the vehicle of the law as a way to extract his revenge. Maybe he is pussylover9 out of Texas.

        LOL. It sounds crazy now that I’ve typed it out!

        • 162 Kathy
          May 30, 2010 at 3:28 pm

          But if it’s about V what would Bill and Sookie have to do with it? Bill’s only involvement is forcing Laffy to tell him that he’s dealing for Eric. Franklin’s asking Tera about Bill and Sookie, not Eric. Besides Tera wouldn’t be any help even if she knows Laffy is dealing V, why ever would she know the details of it. And if Franklin is terrorizing her, how would that affect Eric? I don’t think this is about Eric at all.

  30. 163 Kathy
    May 30, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    Also, I attributed the cowboy boots to a were entering Sookie’s house. Do we know for sure those are Franklin’s feet?

    • 164 sunnynala
      May 30, 2010 at 5:16 pm

      No we don’t, but we know FM helps Jessica with a problem and we know he’s ‘curious’ about Bill, and Sookie, so it is logical that he would sneak into Bill’s house to snoop around.

  31. May 30, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    I stay with my first iumpression….Longshadow’s death,a s book 5….but who knows? Hi sinterest in Bill and Sookie could be a test to know that killing Sookie he could make Bill suffer as him with his loss…or FM is just sent by Longshadow’s maker….that would extend thi mission over even the next season….

    • May 30, 2010 at 4:18 pm

      I think FM has been kind of mixed with that Mickey guy from book 5. He wants Sookie dead and Tara will help him find a way into Sookie’s house.
      (In Season 2, TB!Stan was a mix between Stan Davis and that vampire with the cowboy look who was captured by the FOTS, whose I don’t remember the name).

      But I’m still wondering why FM wants Sookie dead. Maybe because he finds out about Bill’s mission and he knows that by killing Sookie he would def. put Bill in critical position in front of the Queen.

      • 167 Dee
        May 30, 2010 at 4:58 pm

        Hime, I think you’re right that they combined FM with Mickey. Franklin’s demeanor was different in the books and even the little we’ve seen of him, reminds me of Mickey. Now if they also combine Charles Twinning and he is there because of LS, can show even more how he finds out.

        There was a trial for this and it is very likely he found out about the verdict and all the information from the trial. He’ll know that Bill staked LS because of a human. Also, that LS was stealing from Eric and the reason why Sookie was there was to help Eric with this and if she helped then she obviously is the one who said that LS was stealing money. FM can easily find out Sookie is a telepath and realize that Eric asked Sookie to come to Fangtasia so she can find out who was stealing. He’ll start looking into B/S relationship and find out when he came to BT. Maybe even find a connection between Bill and QSA and from there he can start putting the pieces together. Does he know QSA? if so does he know Hadley Stackhouse? He’ll figure that QSA would want a telepath for herself.

        For now this seems most likely to me, you can see how FM can start uncovering this subplot from this scenario. But then again who knows if this is even close to what will be the truth lol.

    • May 30, 2010 at 8:00 pm

      Mony, I’ll support your idea. They did have a casting call for a Sheriff of NYC. I can’t remember the name of the actor who was cast, but I agree that it may have to do with Longshadow’s final death.

      • May 31, 2010 at 2:05 pm

        Vincent Gallo….
        who is the guy Alex was exciting to work with, he was also in Metropia with him…so i guess both Sceriffs are going to meet in S3^^

  32. 170 KC
    May 30, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    I think you’re right that FM will be a combo of Mott, Mickey and Charles Twining. It’s a little sad too because I was looking forward to seeing the pirate, aargh.

  33. 171 VikingLover
    May 31, 2010 at 12:55 am

    2 more weeks!!!! 🙂


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