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First look at Alcide, and Eric loses his shiz (in more ways than one)

I can hardly keep up with all of this today.

Six new videos out, they are slowly going up on YouTube and I will update the post as they become available.

Now that I am done drooling, can I just say the Pam is FIERCE in this scene. True Blood Pam, and book Pam are the same and I love both, so hard.


Source – True Blood Italia

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513 Responses to “First look at Alcide, and Eric loses his shiz (in more ways than one)”


  1. 1 Freyja
    June 10, 2010 at 4:01 am

    Eric was loosing his cool in the red robe scene. He must be in some serious trouble now and Pam too.
    Oh and how sweet was the other clip with S/E 🙂 He was quite embarrassed when he realised he said too much. He really does have crush, and more than that, I think.

  2. 5 Dee
    June 10, 2010 at 4:04 am

    Ok ill paste my video post here from the other thread. WOW thank god we don’t have to wait much longer.

    I LOOOOVE the 4th clip with E/S, Sookie is taken aback by what Eric says and even he is taken by surprise lol. Those are some real feelings coming through awwww

    • 6 Millarca
      June 10, 2010 at 4:07 am

      I’m ridiculously excited about that clip and what Eric reveals and her reaction. *giggles like a schoolgirl*

    • 7 VikingLover
      June 10, 2010 at 4:07 am

      OMG I know!! I almost fainted after I watched it. That’s only ep 2, right? Or is it from ep 1?

      • 8 Dee
        June 10, 2010 at 4:12 am

        I think ep 2 since they know the wolves are involved. It’s ep 2 where he fights the were, right?

        • 9 VikingLover
          June 10, 2010 at 4:14 am

          Oh yeah you’re right. So this must be after that. No, but it can’t be because doesn’t he send Alcide to her after the were attack?

          • 10 legalease
            June 10, 2010 at 4:23 am

            Yes, he sends Alcide after he kills the were in Sookie’s house. Sookie and Alcide talk about it in their clip.

            I’m not sure if the E/S is from Episode 1 or 2. Sookie is in the same shirt as the clip with Jessica and in some of the promos. I think the were attack is probably the next night so this must be either at the end of Episode 1 or beginning of Episode 2. Something must happen prior to this that tips them off that weres are involved. One of the promos show Sookie running from her car looking at something, so perhaps a were has chased them or tried to attack them? After this, she heads straight to Fangtasia.

          • 11 Dee
            June 10, 2010 at 4:25 am

            Hmmm good point, this is what i’ve been so confused about throughout with how many times E/s see eachother beforehand. But I also remember she had on this same shirt when talking to Jason, she tells him about were’s so I’m thinking it’s the day after the attack and in this scene she has that same shirt. So maybe alcide doesn’t come the very next morning after the attack 2nd day after attack. Not 100% sure though.

            • 12 Dee
              June 10, 2010 at 5:53 am

              VL-you might be right and it’s before were attack. Sookie wears this shirt when talking to Jessica and in the scene they are about to go out and find the place Jessica thinks she sensed. Whatever they find gives Sookie some clues and that is when she goes to Fangtasia right after. This is the first Eric probably hears about were’s since he tells Sookie what he knows. Makes no sense now that I think about it, for him to tell Sookie in Fangtasia about were’s if it’s after the were attack because he would’ve told her at her house after the attack. So knowing this, Eric comes the next day to protect her.

    • 13 Dwimordene
      June 10, 2010 at 9:04 am

      Oh yeaa… the end of that clip was perfect, and right 😉

      Well.. All three are promising.

  3. 14 PrettyVikingChains
    June 10, 2010 at 4:08 am

    And I thought I was excited about this season before! How many hours until Sunday???

    My only complaint is Joe’s accent. It seems that, like some of the other actors, he’s laying it on a little too thick. Not all of us from the south sound like we were raised in a barn.

    • 15 Dwimordene
      June 10, 2010 at 9:10 am

      Argg, I hate that accent… I could hardly understand what he was saying… Why is so important the accent in a global world? Arrrgg!!!

  4. June 10, 2010 at 4:14 am

    Wow… just wow…. Thanks for finding them on YT… off to upload them to svmu

    I made a gif up from the end of the Eric and Sookie video… I’m going to move onto these ones tomorrow i think… some great scenes 🙂

  5. 17 legalease
    June 10, 2010 at 4:16 am

    That first clip should put to rest any and all questions that Eric played a role in Bill’s kidnapping. I don’t know how they could have made it any clearer. He really, really doesn’t want QSA to find out either. He seems more frightened of her than I would have thought.

    Like everyone else, I really love the fourth clip. I love how they are both taken aback at the strength and intensity of his declaration. And I like how he doesn’t try to backtrack and offer some excuse like her life is valuable because she’s a telepath in an attempt to alleviate the embarrassment.

    • 18 Freyja
      June 10, 2010 at 4:25 am

      I think this is just the first reaction for the Bill’napping. I’m sure that the next day he’ll have a plan. And finally the BL can ease up on the Viking.
      Agree with you on the 4th clip. Very sweet 🙂 And good that he didn’t come up with an excuse about the telepathy.

    • June 10, 2010 at 4:25 am

      Ah, it does put to rest any suggestion that Eric actually kidnapped Bill.

      But it also makes it fairly clear that he was INTENDING to do it himself and he was just beaten to the punch.

      “I told you to bring me Bill Compton”

      “By the time we got to the restaurant, he was already gone”.

      • 20 VikingLover
        June 10, 2010 at 4:29 am

        Yes, it most certainly does. I’m just glad that it didn’t turn out to be him after all. Now he has no choice but to try to get him back since someone (QSA or the MAG) give him a deadline. You know what though, this also tells us that since he was going to kidnap Bill, that Eric did NOT know anything about the edict AT ALL. And that he was in no way involved with the SFP.

      • 21 Dee
        June 10, 2010 at 4:30 am

        I wanted to ask about that, when I first watched that clip that is also the impression I got. He did tell Reuben to go to the restaurant and bring him Bill Compton…WTF is that about, I hope he just wanted to have a talk lol

      • June 10, 2010 at 4:31 am

        So the question is what was Eric intending to do to Bill. I can’t imagine that he was planning to kill him after that s1 speech about vampire witnesses.

        • 24 sunnynala
          June 10, 2010 at 2:41 pm

          So the question is what was Eric intending to do to Bill

          Probably the same thing he did to Lafayette–hold him in the basement until he got some answers.

          Answers to what? I guess we’ll have to wait and see. I can’t imagine he was just going to nab him and hold him for no reason.

          Unless he intended to kill him. I would be fine with Eric wanting to kill Bill. LOL.

      • 25 legalease
        June 10, 2010 at 4:33 am

        See, I thought that too when I first saw the clip but watched it again and thought he sent them to track Bill and find any clues. I focused on him saying that he had no idea where Bill was and felt better. But if you’re right — crap! So we’re supposed to believe that Eric and Russell/Lorena had the same exact plan and they just got there faster and beat him to it?

        • 26 VikingLover
          June 10, 2010 at 4:35 am

          Yep, it seems that way. Eric was going to take Bill.

          • 27 L
            June 10, 2010 at 4:36 am

            Oh dear. This won’t end well.

          • 28 legalease
            June 10, 2010 at 4:40 am

            Well that’s convenient! I guess it’s good for us because with them taking him he’ll be gone from BT for half of the season! I wonder if we’ll get more context or if this is all we’ll learn about it. If Eric’s guys were supposed to bring Bill to him it doesn’t mean kidnapping. All they’d have to do is say that Eric wants to talk to him and Bill would have to go. Sigh -should have known that AB would have to put his little twist on this as well.

        • 29 Dee
          June 10, 2010 at 4:35 am

          Yeah but why would he call Reuben to go to the restaurant and bring him Bill if he knew Bill was already kidnapped and gone from the restaurant hours ago. Reuben said when he got to the restaurant Bill was already gone, so I’m not so sure. I’m guessing Sookie calls the police instead of going to the police station since Reuben said there was a cop car when he got there.

          • 30 Dee
            June 10, 2010 at 4:37 am

            And when Sookie comes to Fangtasia to question him does this mean he thought he was behind the kidnapping? I am sure this scene is AFTER Sookie leaves

            • 31 Freyja
              June 10, 2010 at 4:39 am

              Arg this is not good 😦 They make him out to be the bad guy again.

              • 32 VikingLover
                June 10, 2010 at 4:42 am

                Yeah, it must have been after she came to see him because he wouldn’t have continued screwing Yvetta knowing that his life was on the line because Bill was missing.

                • 33 LLE
                  June 10, 2010 at 9:26 pm

                  Eric knows that Bill been kidnapped by someone else and he knows that Sookie will show up and accuse him of doing it. Eric was using Yvetta for his own agenda. If Sookie questions Yvetta, Yvetta would say that Eric was with her.

                  Eric had good time screwing Yvetta and waiting for Sookie to show up.

              • 34 Dee
                June 10, 2010 at 4:45 am

                well let’s wait and see what the deal is with Eric’s plan. He says “I told you to bring me Bill Compton” so Reuben was supposed to bring him to Fangtasia I’m guessing. Was Eric planning on keeping him there? I’m sure he’d know Sookie would go there looking. I’m really just hoping he wanted to have a serious talk with him to guarantee Bill wouldn’t open his mouth about the V dealing. I don’t know if Eric would hold him captive, but guess we’ll find out very soon.

              • 35 Kathy
                June 10, 2010 at 2:17 pm

                I know Freyja. It just pisses me off, added to what Stephen said in one of the red carpet interviews that Bill thinks Sookie has turned him down when he’s kidnapped, giving Bill a pass on anything he does away from Sookie. So we still have Bill=Good, Eric=Bad. Grrrr. This does not make me happy AT ALL! And my hopes were just started to rise. Kaboom!

                • 36 KLE
                  June 10, 2010 at 2:50 pm

                  Whether or not Bill thought she was going to turn down his marriage proposal still does not give him a pass IMO. Turning down a marriage proposal is not the same thing as dumping someone outright. When Bill was taken from that restaurant, they might not have been an engaged couple in his mind but they were still a couple. Plus with the stupid blood tie shouldn’t he have “felt” her emotions that she had changed her mind?

                • 37 sunnynala
                  June 10, 2010 at 2:51 pm

                  It just pisses me off, added to what Stephen said in one of the red carpet interviews that Bill thinks Sookie has turned him down when he’s kidnapped

                  Well then, SM is full of shit and is making excuses for his character. Did he forget that Bill can sense Sookie’s emotions? He would certainly have sensed the change of heart she went through in the bathroom and how joyfully she ran out to tell him “YES”. Apparently, SM is giving the BL’s a justification to hang on to when Bill cheats with Lorena.

                  • 38 Serena
                    June 10, 2010 at 2:53 pm

                    Yeah, he has to hang on to the glory while it lasts. Otherwise who is gonna care about him once the edict is revealed?

                • 39 Gigi
                  June 10, 2010 at 9:50 pm

                  [Stephen said in one of the red carpet interviews that Bill thinks Sookie has turned him down when he’s kidnapped]

                  SM was completely clear when he said “Bill thinks” and not “I think”. So please, don’t be unfair making personal attacks against the actor just because we have a bias against the character. Because SM actually isn´t the producer or one of the writers of TB, so he isn´t guilty of the way his character thinks, feels or behaves.

                  And if someone needs to rant against someone for the way Bill “thinks”, do it against AB, who, in November 02, 2008, was asked by Media Blvd Magazine this:

                  “What do you feel is the essential thing that you have to have, in a series dealing with vampires, and how far can you play with the vampire theme to put your own twist on it to make it an Alan Ball production?”

                  and he answered this:

                  “I don’t know. The one thing I feel like you have to have is a character. You have to have a specific person that you’re invested in. You have to feel for them. If it’s just a story device with fangs, then I’m just not that interested. I’m not that interested in special effects. We’re trying to really focus on who Bill is. What is his history? What’s the curse of being immortal? How is that a bad thing? What’s it like to be immortal and still yearn to be human? To lose everything that meant something to you? To meet somebody and feel like you have a second beginning? Those are the things that are important to me. In terms of putting my own spin on things, I’m not really that concerned about that. Charlaine created this world and I just responded to it. Certainly, anything that will put my spin on it has to be shared with the other writers I’m working with. I’m not doing this in a room by myself. Also, it comes more from a motivation of, “Yeah, that works. That’s funny. That entertains us.” I get more invested, emotionally, by that”.

                  So, let’s keep the fiction separated from reality, and don’t blame the actor of what he isn’t guilty. Because SM isn’t full of shit. I don’t like Bill, but I can’t be unfair against SM because of that. And it has been Alan Ball the only one full of enough shit to fill the character of Bill in TB, in order to make it an Alan Ball Production…

      • 40 MASpencer
        June 10, 2010 at 4:37 am

        NO LIKE. Mostly because it makes NO SENSE.

        Why not just call him in? Is kidnapping really necessary? Seems like a waste of time and resources to me…

        • 41 Dee
          June 10, 2010 at 4:38 am

          Unless, Reuben was supposed to go and order Bill to come see Eric for some reason and not really kidnap him? I hope this is it.

          • 42 Freyja
            June 10, 2010 at 4:41 am

            Hopefully so, but why did he want to get him at the restaurant? Why not before or the day after? Maybe he knew that Lorena and Russell were coming after him?

            • 43 VikingLover
              June 10, 2010 at 4:46 am

              No Eric didn’t know anyone was after Bill because he doesn’t know who took him. I don’t think Eric knew that Bill was at a restaurant – he told Reuben to find him and Reuben told him where they had tracked him to.

          • 44 legalease
            June 10, 2010 at 4:43 am

            Yes, that’s what I’m thinking, although we’ve never seen Eric handle it on the show this way before. In Season 1 when Bill ignored his texts, Eric showed up in person (and in the bathtub!) and in Season 2 Eric tracked Bill down at the Forever 21. Doing it through his henchman makes it seem more nefarious.

          • 45 Millarca
            June 10, 2010 at 4:45 am

            We only know Eric wanted Reuben to bring him Bill Compton; we don’t know he intended on keeping him.

            Why would he take him from a restaurant? And how did he know he was going to be at the restaurant? What was the urgency? If Eric wanted to talk to Bill, why didn’t he just call on Bill at his home or have Reuben round him up from home?

            • 46 ESFAN08
              June 10, 2010 at 5:05 am

              If i had to guess i’d say Eric had Bill followed, an once he was told where Bill was. Eric then had Reuben go pick Bill up only once Reuben got to the Restaurant Bill had just been Vampnapped.

            • 47 pennydreadful
              June 10, 2010 at 9:15 am

              “And how did he know he was going to be at the restaurant?”

              In the minisode, when Sookie is showing off her lilac bridesmaid dress monstrosity to Tara and Lafayette, she casually mentions that Bill is taking her to that little French restaurant on the way Shreveport. It’s probable that Lafayette has been passing on a daily report on Sookie to Eric.

              As sheriff, Eric is under QSA’s orders to put the fear of Odin into Bill, thus ensuring that Bill keeps his mouth shut about the selling of V in Area 5. It’s also possible that after Eric’s conversation with the Queen, he’s even more suspicious of Bill’s motives for forming a relationship with Sookie and wishes to interrogate him further on this matter as well.

              • 48 Millarca
                June 10, 2010 at 9:34 am

                Ah, yes. I didn’t pay much attention to that Sookie/Tara scene with that awful dress. Lafayette may well be keeping Eric informed.

                • 49 Kathy
                  June 10, 2010 at 2:21 pm

                  Laffy does mumble under his breath after Tara says something like there are other bitches, “Yes, there are.” Or something of the sort, I’m working so I can go back and get the exact words and I kind of took it to mean himself and that he was going to tell….

            • 50 Dunkinstiks
              June 10, 2010 at 11:14 am

              I was thinking the same thing when every one was fretting ever if Eric intended to kidnap Bill. Eric says “bring him to me” how is this indicative of Eric kidnapping Bill? And would Eric have some henchman (Rueban) do the kidnapping if he had intended to do that? I think Eric would put a job that important in the hands of Pam or Chow, not some henchman.

              All in all I don’t agree that Eric intended to kidnap Bill, but that just me and how I viewed the scene. 🙂

          • June 10, 2010 at 4:45 am

            I’m thinking this.

            Bring me Bill Compton doesn’t mean he planned to do anything to him.

            It’s like when the police want to talk with you – they don’t call on the phone and say get your ass in here, we need to talk to you.

            They physically come and get you, so that you have no forewarning, and you can’t slip away.

            If Bill was summoned to see Eric after their confrontation outside QSA’s, he might not have shown up sensing trouble.

            Perhaps this was simply a means of ensuring Bill showed up for a face-to-face.

            • 52 VikingLover
              June 10, 2010 at 4:52 am

              Yes SVB, I agree. Like I said earlier, if Eric had wanted to cause him physical harm he wouldn’t have had “vamp” witnesses as Renee said. AND he wouldn’t have asked them to bring Bill to him – he would have ordered them to kill him instead. Yep, he was going to bring Bill in to threaten him to keep his mouth shut.

              • 53 Dee
                June 10, 2010 at 4:56 am

                Yeah I think so too, he said he will deal with Bill and this is his way of dealing with him. Bringing him in and making sure he can trust Bill, Eric had to see how the conversation goes in order to guarantee he can and then decide what to do. I don’t think Eric would kidnap him and keep him there especially when he should know that is where people would look for him.

              • 54 LLE
                June 10, 2010 at 9:45 pm

                Eric would kill Bill himself not telling other vampires to do the job. If Eric order the vamp to do the killing, Eric will kill the vamp because he would talk.

            • 55 MASpencer
              June 10, 2010 at 4:56 am

              Yes, totally… but if that’s the case, why not collect Bill HIMSELF? That’s what he’s always done before… unless Eric intended to at least THREATEN him with bodily harm, I just don’t see the point to sending someone else to forcibly take him.

              • 56 VikingLover
                June 10, 2010 at 4:58 am

                Exactly for that reason MAS – he was going to scare him into keeping his mouth shut.

                • 57 VikingLover
                  June 10, 2010 at 4:59 am

                  Basically it’s to tell him, keep your mouth shut or we can find you anytime and anywhere.

                  • 58 MASpencer
                    June 10, 2010 at 5:05 am

                    I see what you’re saying… but I still think this was an OOC and unnecessary move on the part of the writers. You know, so that we audience members don’t get any bright ideas about Eric being a good guy or anything.

                    It’s a little bit cheap and obvious. Just my opinion.

                    • 59 VikingLover
                      June 10, 2010 at 5:09 am

                      Yes MAS, I totally agree with you. It was a cheap ploy to keep the audience guessing and I don’t like it one bit. It was VERY unnecessary especially since they released TONS of spoilers telling us the contrary – that Russell kidnapped Bill.

                    • 60 Dee
                      June 10, 2010 at 5:25 am

                      Not only that VL-but they are going to show us pretty early on who took Bill, infact, it will probably be one of the first things we see and maybe even before this clip takes place and before anyone can even suspect Eric. Unless they think Eric sent the person who took him, but from all the trailers we’ve seen then they’d know Eric didn’t send “WHO” took him. I don’t want to reveal who it is so that’s why I wrote just who lol

                    • 61 Dwimordene
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:32 am

                      I would say they show the clip so that there is more suspense… We know a lot about s3 already, but now we are shown that there are many variables. So they are making us more anxious, which is why all this is done for.

              • 62 MASpencer
                June 10, 2010 at 5:00 am

                And again, he could just as easily threaten him WITHOUT sending someone else to kidnap him. Why not just sneak into his house again, when Jessica is away?

                It JUST. DOESN’T. MAKE. SENSE.

                If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. Eric, of all people, should know that.

                • 63 VikingLover
                  June 10, 2010 at 5:07 am

                  Because when you send big burly men to pick someone up, it sends a BIG message. Much bigger than Eric himself coming to get him. Plus, Eric was showing muscle here – he’s letting Bill know who’s boss. Let’s not forget that in Dallas Bill disrespected Eric on more than one occasion and Eric let is slide. This was telling Bill that this time he wasn’t letting it slide. This is a very serious thing – Eric could be killed if it is discovered that he is selling V and Eric knows that QSA would throw him under the bus in a heartbeat. Eric has no choice but to sell V and risk his death – all because of crazy ass QSA. At least he didn’t send those guys to KILL Bill and let’s face it, he could have considering the position that Eric is in right now. He sent them to bring him in so he could threaten him instead.

                  • 64 Kathy
                    June 10, 2010 at 5:31 pm

                    But isn’t that just making excuses for Eric like the BL’s make for Bill. If AB is making Eric a bad guy, and it appears he is, we’re going to have to accept it whether we like it or not. Alan is making him so, no amount of excuses we can make will excuse it. After Sunday, I can feel it, I will be making a bee-line to the books and starting on round 4. It’s all I have of my viking!

                    • 65 Robin
                      June 10, 2010 at 5:40 pm

                      You sound like me Kathy. I’m ready to start round 4 myself, lol!

                    • 66 sunnynala
                      June 10, 2010 at 5:44 pm

                      But isn’t that just making excuses for Eric like the BL’s make for Bill

                      Absolutely, and I refuse to throw my own integrity and sense of judgement out the window because I prefer one over the other.

                      I’ve always voted Democrat but I REFUSE to make excuses for Obama when he behaves EXACTLY like GWB–albeit with a prettier face and more articulate words—and the so-called Dems who continue to make excuses for him are no better than the rabid Bush lovers who accepted and even applauded every heinous thing he ever did.

                      If AB IS making Eric as bad as Bill I will be horribly disappointed and seriously shocked–but if that is how the cookie crumbles I’m not going compromise my morals for him, like Sookie has for Bill.

                    • 67 Dee
                      June 10, 2010 at 5:52 pm

                      Depends on how you look at it, I’m sure some will see it as Eric being a bad guy and others will see it as Eric knowing he has to deal with Bill since Bill already threatened him by revealing Eric has a human selling V for him. We don’t know yet what Eric planned on doing but let’s say he wanted to bring him in to discuss this and maybe scare him a bit to guarantee he keeps his mouth shut then I personally don’t see that as a villain. Dealing V in the vampire world is bound to get you into a lot of trouble which we see will happen. I think it only makes sense that Eric covers all bases to keep this a secret. Having somebody know about this could only lead to trouble and especially when that someone is Bill who wants Eric to stay away from Sookie. Not making excuses for him but it would be foolish for Eric to not deal with the situation at hand to guarantee his own safety and Pam’s.

                      It’s the same way as if somebody knew a huge secret about you and could get you into a lot of trouble. I am sure we’d all want to make sure this person wouldn’t talk. You’d deal with them personally, maybe ask what you can do to guarantee it stays a secret or some might use scare tactics.

                    • 68 Robin
                      June 10, 2010 at 6:12 pm

                      I really hope they show a scene earlier in the episode before Bill gets kidnapped which will explain what Eric’s plans were for bringing in Bill. AB has a way of giving us a picture or a trailer, and we end up going on wild goose chases in our speculation.

                    • 69 Serena
                      June 10, 2010 at 6:17 pm

                      On this whole debate if they are making Eric look evil or not, Sunny I agree its your choices that show who you really are (Dumbledore! Lol.) But that being said, sometimes you just have to roll a hard six (Adama! Lol.), and its how you react to the hand you have been dealt.

                      As that applies to this season, I think they are going to parallel what Bill has done for the Queen versus Eric, 2 missions, 2 different goals, but 2 bad circumstances of each vampire being forced into subservience and doing something they both don’t want to do. But I think its their reactions to it that count, Eric is going to find a way to go against the Queen, maybe he tags up with Russell, (since its doubtful that the Magister would believe him) but we will see him openly make a move against her, I’m convinced of it. (Another reason to point to the Amnesia Russell and Amnesia Eric, she might have both their memories wiped as a last ditch effort to save herself).

                      As for Bill, I’m fully convinced that he is going to have a chance to tell Sookie the truth when they are reunited and he won’t. He is a coward and a liar, and too bad for him that he doesn’t have an ounce of honesty in him, otherwise Sookie might have forgiven him in the future.

                    • 70 sunnynala
                      June 10, 2010 at 6:30 pm

                      Serena–

                      On this whole debate if they are making Eric look evil or not, Sunny I agree its your choices that show who you really are (Dumbledore! Lol.) But that being said, sometimes you just have to roll a hard six (Adama! Lol.), and its how you react to the hand you have been dealt.

                      As that applies to this season, I think they are going to parallel what Bill has done for the Queen versus Eric, 2 missions, 2 different goals, but 2 bad circumstances of each vampire being forced into subservience and doing something they both don’t want to do. But I think its their reactions to it that count,

                      Fully AGREED! Thank you so much for making me feel better. I was about to commit TB-icide. LOL.

                    • 71 Serena
                      June 10, 2010 at 6:35 pm

                      Ha! Sunny, I have had TB-icide thoughts today too, but it has to do with Debbie, lol.. Damn this show.

                    • 72 VikingLover
                      June 10, 2010 at 10:50 pm

                      {But isn’t that just making excuses for Eric like the BL’s make for Bill. If AB is making Eric a bad guy, and it appears he is, we’re going to have to accept it whether we like it or not. }

                      No Kathy, for me personally it is not. I’m not excusing Eric’s behavior just because I like him or simply to excuse behavior. And I definitely don’t want others to feel the way I do simply because I do. lol I just honestly understand what he does in the context of why he is doing it. But that’s just me. Honestly, I don’t personally believe that Eric is a villian and I don’t believe that AB is trying to make him out to be one either. Not at all. If and when I see Eric do something that I believe is truly evil and villianous, then I will change my mind but for now that isn’t (and hasn’t been) the case. But again, that’s just how I view him and my comments are always just my opinion – and I post them because I love to debate! 🙂 It’s fun and you guys are so much fun to talk to about this stuff.

                    • 73 LLE
                      June 10, 2010 at 11:03 pm

                      Eric is in charge of Bill’s area and he is sheriff. When vampire misbehave, Eric will order another vampire to pick up the misbehave vamp. Eric is just doing his job. Eric is not kidnapping Bill. Eric is letting Bill know he is boss and he will follow his order or he is big trouble.

                      If Bill was in danger from Eric, Eric would had steak Bill in the restaurant.

                • June 10, 2010 at 5:08 am

                  I think the difference is that this time Eric seems to be acting in his official capacity as sheriff, carrying out the queen’s orders, so that’s going to look different then when he was acting informally for personal reasons.

                  • 75 MASpencer
                    June 10, 2010 at 5:17 am

                    But he said “I’ll take care of Bill Compton. Personally.” And I don’t see how sending burly men to do your dirty work proves a point to someone who, not so long ago, had the brass balls to PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE.

                    If you ask me, that’s all the more reason to take a bitch down a notch or two yourself.

                    In conclusion, I just can’t excuse this, though I know it’s serving its purposes in the story, and in the grand scheme of things it’s not that big of a big deal.

                    I can simply say that, for me, the writers kind of fucked up on this one.

                    • June 10, 2010 at 5:30 am

                      I’m giving them then benefit of the doubt. I think Eric’s actions will nearly always appear nefarious. It’s up to the viewer to put them in context.

                    • June 10, 2010 at 5:35 am

                      What I meant to say was, I’m giving the writers the benefit of the doubt.

                    • June 10, 2010 at 5:52 pm

                      MAS, are you getting a Sopranos with Fangs vibe?

                    • 79 Dee
                      June 10, 2010 at 6:02 pm

                      Bobsgran-Ive been noticing the mob references for a while now and really think it’s playing out like many mob movies when it comes to this whole V dealing and two empires against each other.

                    • 80 Kathy
                      June 10, 2010 at 6:05 pm

                      IMO they’ve been fucking it up all along. I still can’t forgive Eric for calling Lorena. I know other’s can, but I can’t. It makes him appear as if he has no confidence in himself. That he needs help getting Sookie. That’s not Eric. And kidnapping Bill is not Eric either. You know it’s really great, the writers have made me hate hate both Bill and now Eric. I’m on my last nerve with Sookie. Maybe S3 WILL be the last of TB for me. I can only imagine what they’re going to do to S4. I’ve been saying it all along. Eric WILL have amnesia, but it won’t be under the same circumstances at all.

                • 81 Sibyl_Vane
                  June 11, 2010 at 4:07 am

                  I agree that it is a cheap ploy by the writers to point a finger at Eric, but They did show us already that Eric was with Pam selecting new dancers. Maybe he figured that Bill was not important enough to devide his attention from his business and figured someone else could summon Bill and wouldn’t it be perfect to have Bill look bad in front of Sookie? I don’t know. Most of the time I’m first to call bull shit on the TB writers in there faults but this time I am reaching. I didn’t really enjoy seeing this side of Eric because it doesn’t feel true to me but AB doesn’t seem to care too much about being true to Eric so I live with what I can get.

              • 82 Dee
                June 10, 2010 at 5:03 am

                That is what’s confusing me lol, maybe he was planning on it but then Yvetta came in to audition and thought he’d just send Reuben to do it while he enjoys Yvetta lol. Maybe Eric is just tired of going out to look for Bill himself lol. Yes, I am trying to think of excuses haha

        • 83 VikingLover
          June 10, 2010 at 4:40 am

          I agree MAS, it just doesn’t make any sense. I mean if he was planning to kill Bill, then why send people to get him? As Rene said, that would leave too many witnesses knowing that Eric was responsible.

        • 84 MASpencer
          June 10, 2010 at 4:41 am

          And THIS is where I harp about this show’s gross inconsistencies, BTW. Jessica got a feeling of where Bill is, but Eric had NO IDEA that Godric was stowed away at the FotS church last season?????

          Dude. Whatever.

          • 85 VikingLover
            June 10, 2010 at 4:44 am

            That’s because Bill called to Jessica whereas Godric didn’t because Godric wanted to die. He went willingly.

          • June 10, 2010 at 4:44 am

            Well…Pam and Jessica were called. Godric didn’t want anyone to find him, so he wouldn’t have been broadcasting.

          • 87 MASpencer
            June 10, 2010 at 4:48 am

            I’ll take that answer, ladies… good enough for me. 😉

          • 88 liv
            June 10, 2010 at 5:50 am

            If they were consistent with these superpowers Bill wouldn’t even been kidnapped, because with his super smell and super hearing he would sense the werewolves, and I dunno, ran away in super speed lol

          • 89 Serena
            June 10, 2010 at 12:46 pm

            See, I think Eric did know where Godric was, otherwise what was he talking about when he says to him in the basement, “You wouldn’t leave when I first came for you.” He just didn’t have any leverage on getting Godric out of there, so he sent Sookie. (And he couldn’t just blurt it out to Isabel and Stan and company either, or Sookie wouldn’t have gone in).

            But it is a little weird, if he did know. Are they trying to establish that progeny can’t sense the makers presence unless they are summoned? Bill didn’t sense Lorena, but then again he was ‘freed.’ IDK, my brain is not functional yet.

            • 90 stephernutter
              June 10, 2010 at 1:41 pm

              I think it’s more a case of Eric didn’t know where Godric was because he didn’t call him when he was in the basement alone. After Godric killed Gabe, Godric says “I am here my child” or something like that, and then Eric goes down to the basement. Godric makes Eric save Sookie from the church instead of leaving himself. That’s what I always thought Eric was referring to when he said “You wouldn’t leave when I first came for you”, when Godric called to Eric after killing Gabe, and then Eric left the basement with Sookie, but Godric stayed behind.

              And yeah, in TB I don’t think progeny know where their makers are unless they are called.

        • June 10, 2010 at 4:41 am

          Eric told Ruben to bring him Bill. That doesn’t necessarily mean that Ruben was instructed to abduct him. It seems more likely to me that Ruben was sent to take Bill into custody or to bring him to Fangtasia for questioning.

          • 92 VikingLover
            June 10, 2010 at 4:44 am

            Yes but the problem is that they don’t make this clear in that scene.

          • 93 MASpencer
            June 10, 2010 at 4:47 am

            Yeah, but if this was such an all-important issue, why send someone else to collect him? Eric has always tracked down Bill by himself before. The only reason why he would send someone else now would be so that no one saw HIM doing the kidnapping.

            I’m calling this out for what I think it is: A cheap ploy to keep suspicion on Eric.

            Why bother? Everyone knows that Eric’s NOT the bad guy by now. REALLY.

            • 94 VikingLover
              June 10, 2010 at 4:57 am

              MAS, it’s also a way to tell us that Eric has no idea about the Queen’s plans for Sookie otherwise he wouldn’t have tried to bring him in. Honestly, I don’t think he was planning on kidnapping him because there would be no point to bring him to Fangtasia to then just kill him. Too many witnesses for that. Like I said before, if he wanted Bill dead (and no one to know that he was responsible), he would have sent hitmen instead.

              • 95 MASpencer
                June 10, 2010 at 5:11 am

                [MAS, it’s also a way to tell us that Eric has no idea about the Queen’s plans for Sookie otherwise he wouldn’t have tried to bring him in.]

                Surely, there was a better way to achieve this. Although I agree that it DOES serve this purpose rather effectively. And for that, I am prepared to let it go. For now. LOL

              • 96 ESFAN08
                June 10, 2010 at 5:19 am

                Bill told the Queen he’d take care of Bill Compton personally last Season. So Eric sent one of his minions lol Reuben to bring Bill in, to make sure Bill keeps his Mouth shut about the V is my guess. I dont think Eric was planning on killing him, otherwise he wouldn’t have wanted him brought in. Eric would’ve just had some other Vamp kill Bill so it wouldn’t be traced back to him. I know some feels Eric was acting off in this clip cuz of him losing his cool,but him an Pam’s lifes on the line if Bill opens his Mouth about the V. I think its pretty safe to say Bill rats Eric out about the V which is how the Magister finds out. I still dont believe Eric is scared of the Queen just scared of the power her position gives her just my opinion tho.

        • 98 MollyS
          June 10, 2010 at 5:12 am

          Maybe he did call/text him, but Bill was too busy glamoring jewelry-delivery ladies and running around in his skanky 70 yr. old robe to respond. After their showdown in front of the queen’s house, it is no surprise that Bill would ignore Eric and carry on with his business, especially if he thought that Sookie’s acceptance of his proposal would further remove her from Eric’s clutches. And by sending a subordinate it might send a message to Bill that Eric is playing the sheriff role and his appearance is business rather than a casual request.

          • 99 VikingLover
            June 10, 2010 at 5:17 am

            LOL Yes, he has definitely ignored Eric before. He disrespects Eric quite a lot actually. This time Eric wasn’t having it because this is waaaay too serious an issue to f***ck around.

            • June 10, 2010 at 5:19 am

              Yes. After telling Eric that he doesn’t respond to texts, dissing him at the mall, and man handling and assaulting him in Dallas, I don’t think Eric is going to continue to put himself out hunting down Bill.

            • 101 MASpencer
              June 10, 2010 at 5:22 am

              But if it was so serious, he should’ve done that shit himself. You don’t delegate critical tasks to incompetents– in fact, *I* don’t delegate critical tasks AT ALL.

              But maybe I’m a micro-manager. We ladies do have trouble with that kind of thing. 😉

              • 102 VikingLover
                June 10, 2010 at 5:30 am

                Again, I’m not saying this because it’s Eric but honestly, if it were me I would have done the same thing – I wouldn’t have gone to his house as if I were going to have tea and crackers. I’m bringing him to ME to prove a point. It’s like when the Boss needs to chew you out for something you did – he doesn’t go to your office, he calls you to his. That’s when you know you’re in for a world of hurt. lol

                • June 10, 2010 at 5:33 am

                  Exactly, this is what I’m getting at. Good example.

                • 104 Feather
                  June 10, 2010 at 6:53 am

                  agreed, BUT what bothers me is this:

                  eric obviously sent someone to fetch bill, right? so when sookie comes stomping in looking for him, well, wasn’t it that dude on the phone who was supposed to have taken bill? so eric was expecting someone with bill, but got sookie instead. he immediately tells her he didn’t take Bill when she asks (well he didnt but its a technicality since he sent someone to do it) but that was his original intent, yes? to bring bill back to Fangtasia?

                  unless this person was dispatched to the restaurant to barge in, embarrass bill/ruin the moment etc etc so it would have been a blatant show of power on eric’s part?

                  gah, i’m not saying this right. it’s on the tip of my brain. okay, my question is, did eric send that person to KIDNAP bill, or to “escort” him back to the club? i’m not sure that i approve of how quickly he tells her that he didn’t do it, because he doesn’t know that bill is really gone until after sookie leaves and he gets on the phone, right?

                  i really hope that made sense, it’s late, lol

                  • 105 Millarca
                    June 10, 2010 at 7:55 am

                    You’ve certainly provided some food for thought. I’ve just rewatched both clips and I can’t work it out.

                    If he hadn’t spoken to Reuben between 11pm and 6 hours later when Sookie arrived, which must have been just before the convo with Reuben because that was a couple of minutes before sunrise, why was he so calm and definite with Sookie when it seems he had in fact been expecting Bill to be brought to him that night and for all he knew Bill might have been coming in the door behind her?

                    If he was expecting him that night/early morning he must have been wondering why it had taken Reuben so long to bring Bill to him. Though maybe he’d first spoken to Reuben and been told Bill was missing some hours beforehand, but Reuben doesn’t mention any further enquiries made after finding the cop car at the restaurant so it doesn’t sound like a further conversation. And if there had been an earlier conversation he would have flown off the handle then, and, since he was so upset and angered by the revelation, surely he wouldn’t just have gone back to entertaining Yvetta while he waited for more news. And surely he would not have been so calm and perky when Sookie arrived to confirm the bad news.

                    • 106 VikingLover
                      June 10, 2010 at 11:51 am

                      {why was he so calm and definite with Sookie when it seems he had in fact been expecting Bill to be brought to him that night and for all he knew Bill might have been coming in the door behind her?}

                      I don’t think he was calm and definite – I think he was keeping a poker face because at that moment he wasn’t sure what the heck had happened. His face immediately changes when she turns to leave – that’s when his expression changes to “WTF?/I’m F***ing pissed”. He expected Reuben to return with Bill at some point during that night/next night, not Sookie saying that Bill had been kidnapped and she “thought” he had done it. If Rueben had taken Bill, Sookie would have known that he had been sent by Eric to summon Bill.

                    • 107 LLE
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:52 pm

                      He found out six hours ago and waiting for Sookie to show up. It probably took him couple hours for him to calm down. By the time Sookie show up, he was calm.

              • 108 Dee
                June 10, 2010 at 5:31 am

                This is why I don’t think it was that serious, if it was then like you said, Eric, would go take care of it himself. This is why I think he just needed to talk to Bill and why he sent someone else to do it because unlike the time he needed Sookie to help find Godric, he just needed to talk to him. Eric was worried of course about Bill knowing all about him having Laf sell V, but I also think he knew just a talk would take care of the problem.

                If he really needed someone to handle business, I think he would’ve sent Pam instead. He knows she can keep any of his secrets and trust her no matter what.

      • June 10, 2010 at 4:40 am

        This thing is taking FOREVER to get up on YouTube.
        Random observation…carry on 🙂

        • 110 Feather
          June 10, 2010 at 6:43 am

          i hope the good ones go on youtube soon, they won’t even load for me on the original site any more. well, at least i saw them a couple of times..

      • 111 Dwimordene
        June 10, 2010 at 9:13 am

        ¿? WHere is that fourth clip?? oh myyyy

      • 112 MASpencer
        June 10, 2010 at 3:24 pm

        So, I’m beginning to think that the source of my discontent at this situation is the fact that it didn’t make sense for Eric to have to “take care of Bill” in the first place. A few questions:

        1) Why does Sophie-Anne give a shit that Bill knows?
        2) Even assuming she DOES, why have ERIC deal with it, instead of just telling Bill to mind his business?
        3) And last but not least, the question we’ve ALL been asking since this clip was released: WFT kind of purpose does “kidnapping” Bill serve for Eric?

        If you ask me, the whole thing becomes rather nonsensical UNLESS Eric is being set up by Sophie-Anne. OR unless Bill ISN’T really on a mission from Sophie-Anne at all– because otherwise, I don’t see why she would think that Bill couldn’t be trusted to do as she says and shut up with regard to the V situation. YKWIM?

        Anyway, SA knows about Bill and Sookie’s blood exchange– and unless we are to assume that he and the Queen are actually BFFs, the only explanation for that knowledge is that Bill has been keeping her informed. Because he was SENT to Bon Temps.

        That leaves the only other sensible reasoning behind this confusing clusterfuck of motivations here– which is that Eric is being set up. Which ties into my theories that Sophie-Anne and Russell are ACTUALLY in league, and that this whole Bill being kidnapped mess may have more to do with ERIC than it seems.

        Or I’m just trying to fit square pegs into round holes– and the TB writers have once again thrown my Viking under the bus for drama’s sake. Which is perfectly possible. Sigh.

        • 113 MASpencer
          June 10, 2010 at 3:26 pm

          GAH… *WTF*… so annoyed I’m misspelling my acronyms…

        • 114 Serena
          June 10, 2010 at 3:34 pm

          I think you have a good point there MAS, if Bill is her loyal minion, why does she care if he knows about the V? She only ‘cares’ if she doesn’t want Eric to know that Bill is her ever faithful minion, which means she sent Eric on a fools mission or into a trap by ‘punishing’ Bill and having Bill disappear before he could.

          Which is why she shows up in the early episodes to confront him (without Eric calling her), because she knows Eric has failed his mission since she foiled it from the start.

          • June 10, 2010 at 3:55 pm

            For me, it’s a no brainer that SA wouldn’t want Bill to know about the vamp blood. Someone as old and powerful as she is didn’t get to where she is with loose lips.

            Trusting Bill with a two bit mission that wouldn’t raise an eyebrow morally in the vamp world is much different than giving him information that could bring down her queendom. Add that to the fact that Bill has no more stake in the V operation than Eric has the mission to Bon Temps, so he could very well be tempted to broker what he knows to his best advantage. This is power relationships 101. Don’t trust anyone with anything that couldn’t bring them down, too.

            • 116 Serena
              June 10, 2010 at 4:12 pm

              True, that way Bill couldn’t try to wiggle out of his mission either by using it against her. And maybe he’s not so loyal. I hope they give us more about how Bill started to work for her, if she has something on him, which she probably does. I mean, I know she could just order him in because its her Queendom, but he could have just flown the coop.

            • 117 MASpencer
              June 10, 2010 at 4:47 pm

              Again, my point is that Bill DOESN’T know about her involvement. And if Sophie-Anne REALLY wanted to make sure that he NEVER knows, ERIC (and Pam by association) are the ones she should either take out, or further incriminate so that she can deny any knowledge of the operation and wash her hands of it.

              But I really, really think all of this might be a big put-on– the whole thing. With the purpose of giving Eric enough rope to hang himself with.

        • 118 MASpencer
          June 10, 2010 at 3:36 pm

          Just to add to that, this is the SECOND time we hear Eric say that Bill is the only one who knows about his little “arrangement.”

          CORRECTION: Bill DOESN’T know about the “arrangement.” Bill only knows that ERIC is selling V. And I’m going to go out on a limb and say that was PRECISELY the point in all of this.

          It’s all about ERIC, people!!!

          • 119 Serena
            June 10, 2010 at 3:47 pm

            Agreed. But is there another reason for the V other than setting up Eric? I think she definitely wants him out of the way, -Sookie is the main agenda, first and foremost. But possibly she wants Sookie as a means to ends… Just what does Russell want from all this? How does any arrangement with Sophie-Ann benefit him? It seems so charitable of him.. but.. if he did indeed have an arrangement with SA, why send Franklin Mott? Crap, now I don’t think they have an alliance.

            Oh and a slightly unrelated thought: I think Russell is going to lose his memory and live on into next season. Amnesia Russell, I’m calling it!

            • June 10, 2010 at 3:59 pm

              Ha! My theory is that Eric wanted Bill brought to Fangtasia because he was going to have a witch erase his memory of the V dealing. That could open the door to AR and AE.

              • 121 Serena
                June 10, 2010 at 4:07 pm

                That’s interesting theory Renee, I wonder which witches Eric knows and when do they start to get involved in the story, and we know Hallow was addicted to V…

              • 122 MASpencer
                June 10, 2010 at 4:36 pm

                TOO SOON, Renee!!!!

                But I DO like this idea. Ha. Though it STILL doesn’t explain why he was careless enough to send someone ELSE to collect Bill for him.

              • 123 LLE
                June 10, 2010 at 9:55 pm

                Eric was going threaten him to his mouth to shut or he be dead. Eric is not going to use a witch at all.

              • 124 Gigi
                June 10, 2010 at 10:11 pm

                [Ha! My theory is that Eric wanted Bill brought to Fangtasia because he was going to have a witch erase his memory of the V dealing. That could open the door to AR and AE.]

                Amnesic Bill instead of Amnesic Eric?

                That actually sounds like AB’s…

          • 126 sunnynala
            June 10, 2010 at 4:02 pm

            Just to add to that, this is the SECOND time we hear Eric say that Bill is the only one who knows about his little “arrangement.”

            Actually, in this clip he says Bill is the ‘one vampire who could link her to the dealing of vampire blood’. IOW, if Bill rats Eric it’s only a matter of time before it comes back to her.

            • 127 MASpencer
              June 10, 2010 at 4:34 pm

              I don’t think that’s true. Eric is the ONLY one who could rat out Sophie-Anne about this. If this really is a covert operation of hers, I doubt any other vampire knows… and she’s in no danger unless she honestly thinks Eric is a snitch. And I DON’T think Eric is a snitch, and I doubt SHE does, either.

              But that point is moot… because I don’t think this IS a covert operation. I think the “shadow government” probably knows full well what’s going on. Eric just THINKS it’s a covert operation… because that’s what Sophie-Anne WANTS him to think.

              • 128 Dee
                June 10, 2010 at 4:42 pm

                I was wondering the same thing but didn’t bring it up yesterday because it was a while after we had all already went so off topic lol.

                But that is what I’m wondering, why is QSA dealing V and was she herself put up to do this? Otherwise, why get so upset that Bill knows if she herself can threaten him. Unless she is afraid of someone else finding out that other vamps not involved know about this arrangement and how it can get her in trouble. That makes more sense to me than she herself worried about Bill saying anything. Unless there is something else we don’t know yet.

              • 129 Janofarc/hamsterbaby
                June 10, 2010 at 7:19 pm

                Just to add something – surely if anyone wants to know where the vamp blood is coming from all they have to do is smell the blood? If SA is indeed supplying Eric with her own blood then it’s easy for Eric to prove that SA is involved. Unless they’ve decided that vamps don’t have a superior sense of smell in TB.

          • 130 pennydreadful
            June 10, 2010 at 4:05 pm

            MAS- I’m wondering if we are going to see some “Maltese Falcon” double-crossing treachery this season. If my previous speculations are correct that film noir themes will be explored in season three, then Eric is almost certainly being set up as a fall guy.

            Sheriff Northman= hard-boiled undead P.I. 😉

            • 131 MASpencer
              June 10, 2010 at 4:50 pm

              I think this season will be PACKED with double-crossing, Penny. And I think everyone’s true loyalties will unfold in a series of shocking twists over the course of the entire season.

              And ERIC is going to end up being the ultimate sucker if he doesn’t start catching on QUICK.

              • 132 Dee
                June 10, 2010 at 4:57 pm

                I think he will and I think he will kill two birds with one stone, I don’t know if that’s the expression I want to use but i’ll go with it lol.

                We think that RE is his target for his vengeance plan, and he is basically screwed when it comes to QSA because he might have to take the fall. He is screwed if he does and screwed if he doesn’t. He will see an opportunity when Russell unveils his plan to him, we know RE comes to BT in episode 6. Eric will allow it because he will let RE take out QSA and deal with her for him. But Eric has something else up his sleeve and will probably know how to take care of RE. Now that he revealed his plan to Eric, he might have a plan on how to do this. Hence why RE is missing in episode 10. Eric takes care of both his rivals at this point.

                • June 10, 2010 at 11:26 pm

                  Ahem…anyone read Entertainment Weekly yet? RE wants to marry QSA and “unite the vampire and supernatural worlds and bring them together and let them dominate because he believes the human race isn’t worth it…”

            • 135 MASpencer
              June 10, 2010 at 5:05 pm

              Oh, and this also drives home Sunny’s point about the irony of the situation: Bill told Sookie that Eric has had 1,000 years practice in the art of deceit– but I think we’ll find that he is the LEAST deceitful of the bunch.

              And it’s going to get him in BIG trouble, because in taking everyone’s motivations at face value (just like he did in assuming that Bill staked Longshadow because he “loves” Sookie, instead of assuming that the Queen actually MIGHT have an edict that he doesn’t know about), he WON’T see what’s coming from a mile away.

          • 136 VikingLover
            June 10, 2010 at 4:32 pm

            MAS, Eric is not trying to say that Bill knows that Eric and QSA has an arrangement – he is just using that phrase with Pam and QSA because THEY know about the arrangement. He’s basically just saying that Bill knows that he (Eric) is selling V.

            • 137 MASpencer
              June 10, 2010 at 4:40 pm

              But in the promo where he’s talking to Sophie-Anne, he says that Bill is the only one who knows about “our arrangement.”

              Pam’s right– Eric IS “losing it.” Why exactly does he think SA cares that Bill knows about ERIC selling V??? She could just deny any involvement, and wash her hands of the situation altogether.

              I think Godric dying has thrown Eric SERIOUSLY off of his game.

              • 138 VikingLover
                June 10, 2010 at 5:09 pm

                Yes, it’s just the phrasing – the use of the word “arrangement” was for QSA’s benefit. And yes, Eric IS losing it but not because of Godric but because he’s being forced to do something that could get him killed. I would be losing it to! This is something unprecedented for Eric, MAS. He’s being forced to break a SERIOUS law and THERE IS NO ONE TO BACK HIM UP. He’s going to be KILLED if Bill opens his mouth. And Eric knows that QSA doesn’t give a shit about him but he’s saying that too her

                {Why exactly does he think SA cares that Bill knows about ERIC selling V She could just deny any involvement, and wash her hands of the situation altogether.} Because it’s not that simple. You think the Magister is going to take QSA’s word that she didn’t know? And what if they are able to find some proof? Also, what if her territory is not generating money (if she is indeed broke) – could they want to use this as an excuse to remove her from power? We don’t know how this heirarchy thing works so this may also be a consideration. In any case, Eric knows that QSA doesn’t give a shit about him – he’s trying to appeal to her sense of self preservation when he tells her these things.

        • 139 sunnynala
          June 10, 2010 at 3:49 pm

          So, I’m beginning to think that the source of my discontent at this situation is the fact that it didn’t make sense for Eric to have to “take care of Bill” in the first place. A few questions:

          It makes sense when you put it into the context of my theory that QSA was actually telling Eric, cryptically, to stay away from Sookie.

          Bill threatened to tell THE QUEEN HERSELF about the V-dealing. Why would the queen care if Bill came to HER to spill the beans? She would not becuase if he did all she had to do was tell him to keep his mouth shut and he would. No, she only cares insofar as if he did come to her and rat Eric, that would mean Eric had come close to Sookie. (Remember, the ‘guards hear everything’ and they heard and reported E/B’s entire conversation outside the palace. Bill KNEW THIS.)

          Now, the ‘take care’ part makes perfect sense when you consider Eric’s fear of QSA finding out that Bill is missing. “Take care” of Bill Compton then takes on the meaning of ‘take care that nothing happens to him’.

          3) And last but not least, the question we’ve ALL been asking since this clip was released: WFT kind of purpose does “kidnapping” Bill serve for Eric?

          It serves the purpose of Eric finding out WTF is going on between Bill and the queen. Eric suspicions were in high gear during that visit to the queen and the best way to get some answers would be to go to the source and ASK him–forcefully, if need be.

          • 140 MASpencer
            June 10, 2010 at 4:27 pm

            I see what you’re saying… but it’s just not appeasing me, Sunny.

            First, it would not behoove the Queen to tell anyone ANYTHING in a cryptic manner. She told him never to drink Sookie’s blood, and spoke derisively about how she didn’t need another person “falling in love” with Sookie. I think that’s orders enough, and served the dual purpose of deflecting any suspicion toward the REAL reasons she may have had to want Bill and Sookie together. The Queen didn’t need to make it any clearer than she did to Eric that he should stay away from Sookie– and if she wanted to emphasize the point, she would have just said STAY THE FUCK AWAY.

            I think her pushing him on the floor and emphasizing that Bill better never find out about the V-selling was all part of a set-up– because in actuality, she has NOTHING to lose in this situation. Or at least that’s what SHE THINKS.

            Secondly, if Eric was REALLY trying to drag Bill in to grill him about his “mission,” I don’t think he would have been quite so upset at his turning up missing. Unless Eric already KNOWS about Bill’s mission, and realizes that the Queen won’t be happy when she finds out she lost her main man on Eric’s watch. But if THAT’S the case, then, once again, it doesn’t make sense that Eric would try to force this info out of Bill as it would only get him into MORE trouble with the Queen. Eric would realize that if she WANTED him to know about it, she would have told him– and he’d be smart enough to butt out. More importantly, any solid foreknowledge about Bill’s mission also makes Eric JUST as responsible for not warning Sookie… and the mere thought of that makes me stabby, as SVB would say.

            I think Eric’s intention was to rough Bill up and intimidate him, pure and simple. And I think it was poor judgment on his part to send someone else to do it if it mattered so much. And judging from Eric’s reaction on the phone, he KNOWS he fucked up… or he is coming unhinged because he’s sensing that something hinky is going on, and HE’S the one who’s in trouble.

            Finally, consider the timing of the situation: Bill goes missing the night after he’s met with the Queen– and not coincidentally, left her the impression that he may NOT be as detached from his mission as he should be. Sophie-Anne caught onto this, and I think she decided to abort the mission– which is why I don’t think she really CARES that he’s missing, whatever she says, and she may even KNOW who took him.

            The important part is that ERIC is the one being played here– specifically by the Queen. She made him THINK she cares about Bill finding out her role in the V-selling plot… when reasonably speaking, it just shouldn’t matter. There HAS to be something up with this… and I’m betting it will all eventuate in Eric getting amnesia next season, as part of a Plan B when whatever this set-up is DOESN’T go as planned.

            • 141 Dee
              June 10, 2010 at 4:37 pm

              I agree, he is not this pissed because he didn’t get to grill him about the mission. It comes down to one thing and he is scared because Bill knows that Eric has a human selling V for him and now he is missing and who knows who he will tell. I think Eric has every reason to worry especially after their encounter outside the mansion. He knows Bill wants Eric to stay away from Sookie and getting Eric in trouble will be taking care of the problem. Plus, I don’t think Eric knows yet about the mission. He might be suspicious but that’s about it.

              QSA is definitely screwing Eric over. If the edict is on the show and I truly believe it is then all she has to do is threaten Bill to tell Sookie about everything, she sees now that Bill has fallen in love with her and could use this against him.

              • 142 VikingLover
                June 10, 2010 at 4:57 pm

                I agree Dee, Eric was going to bring him in about the V (in order to threaten him) – plain and simple. This makes perfect sense to me because it’s his life that hangs in the balance. Also MAS, let’s not forget that QSA is a crazy bitch. Sure she could have been less cryptic but this is how she operates – she loves to play games, literally and figuratively. When it came down to it – she was very clear with Eric that he had better make sure Bill keeps his mouth shut. In any case, after all is said and done, the fact is that Eric WAS NOT responsible for the kidnapping.

                I don’t agree that QSA does not care that Bill is missing. She knows very well that if Bill talks, Eric is not going to go quietly into that good night. He’s going to fight tooth and nail to survive. I also don’t think that she has aborted the B/S mission. However, I do think the V issue takes precedence. They have to find Bill before he opens his fat trap.

                • 143 MASpencer
                  June 10, 2010 at 5:10 pm

                  True, VL. But the REAL snitch here, as far as Sophie-Anne is concerned, would be ERIC. So she has more reasons to take HIM out than she does Bill at this stage in the game.

                  Which, of course, raises questions as to whether she enlisted Eric in the V-selling ring with the intention of getting him into trouble all along. I guess we’ll find out!

                  • 144 sunnynala
                    June 10, 2010 at 5:17 pm

                    I’m feeling a bit stabby over this myself.

                    All these clips make it look like Eric is just being QSA’s flunky with the v dealing. I’ve thought all along that while QSA was doing it for the money (and possibly to track a v-addicted were-witch) and Eric knew this, he went along with it in order to track drainers, dealers, and buyers in his capacity as sheriff.

                    However, these clips make him look morally culpable in this heinous crime.

                    Seriously, I AM PISSED and it better turn out differently than the impression we are getting from these spoilers because FUCK..you know.. it SUCKS.

                    • 145 Robin
                      June 10, 2010 at 5:19 pm

                      I am worried about our Viking girls. He has it coming from all directions this season, plus he is starting to have feelings for Sookie, lol.

                    • 146 MASpencer
                      June 10, 2010 at 5:24 pm

                      Right there with you Sunny. But I’m sure we’ll get answers with respect to the V-selling this season, and I think it will be more complicated than what we could have ever guessed.

                      I don’t mind so much Eric being SA’s “flunky”– as his superior, she reserves the right to make him do whatever she wants, moral judgments be damned. It’s all part of working for someone else.

                      I just want Eric to stay a step ahead of her, and figure this shit out before he gets snowed. I’m guessing, though, that he may NOT– at least, not soon enough to save himself– hence the last will and testament in episode 10, and what I am (assuming? hoping?) will be an amnesia cliffhanger in the season finale.

                    • 147 sunnynala
                      June 10, 2010 at 5:37 pm

                      I don’t mind so much Eric being SA’s “flunky”– as his superior, she reserves the right to make him do whatever she wants, moral judgments be damned. It’s all part of working for someone else.

                      Well see, I can’t accept this rationalization. I don’t accept it from Bill and I won’t accept it from Eric.

                      “I was just following orders” is not a legitimate defense in any context nor any kind of excuse whatsoever in my book.

                      And seriously, if AB makes it where a vampire underling has no choice whatsoever but to follow orders they find morally offensive this would negate any differences between Bill and Eric, or between ANY of the vampires. It would make them ALL an army automatons with no room to consider individual motives or circumstances.

                      And it would negate Godrics words to Lorena as to why he didn’t snap her like a twig. Because it was his ‘choice’ not to, which told us all that vampires have as much personal autonomy to make moral choices as we do. IOW, they ALL have the ability to decide for themselves what they consider moral or not and to follow those choices —some are just more difficult than others and have harsher consequences.

                    • 148 MASpencer
                      June 10, 2010 at 5:51 pm

                      I see what you’re saying Sunny. And I kind of think that at the end of his season, neither Eric nor Bill is going to come out looking superior. Both will be revealed to have their weaknesses– they’ll just be DIFFERENT weaknesses.

                      It will even the playing field significantly in the grand scheme of things. But, at least where Sookie is concerned, I think Eric will have the advantage simply because the sincerity of his feelings for her will be beyond doubt– whereas the true nature of Bill’s feelings will be permanently cast in doubt, no matter how emphatically he may claim that he REALLY came to love Sookie.

                      At the end of the day, she will never be able to trust Bill’s honesty again. It’s the funny thing about lying. LOL.

                    • 149 Dee
                      June 10, 2010 at 5:58 pm

                      Sunny, both do have to follow authority. Godric is a rare example because he was in a place most vampires are not at in their existence. Remember that Godric himself said how many horrible things he has done and it was only more recently he started feeling guilty about it and wondering about their existence. So much so that he decided to meet the sun.

                      But with Bill and Eric, I do see a big difference. Eric is following orders from the queen but he is basically only screwing himself over. He is putting himself at risk and hurts nobody but himself. Bill on the other hand is toying with someones emotions, and his orders do directly effect somebody else. Then when Sookie comes into question about who is better for her, they both had to follow Queens’ orders. Well Eric dealing V doesn’t directly hurt Sookie, but Bill following orders does.

                    • 150 sunnynala
                      June 10, 2010 at 6:23 pm

                      MAS–

                      I see what you’re saying Sunny. And I kind of think that at the end of his season, neither Eric nor Bill is going to come out looking superior. Both will be revealed to have their weaknesses– they’ll just be DIFFERENT weaknesses.

                      It will even the playing field significantly in the grand scheme of things. But, at least where Sookie is concerned, I think Eric will have the advantage simply because the sincerity of his feelings for her will be beyond doubt– whereas the true nature of Bill’s feelings will be permanently cast in doubt, no matter how emphatically he may claim that he REALLY came to love Sookie.

                      At the end of the day, she will never be able to trust Bill’s honesty again. It’s the funny thing about lying. LOL.

                      Agreed. Both have bad qualities but the question is HOW are they bad?

                      So far, TB has portrayed Eric as the ‘villain’ (as SM once said, “the one with no morals” PUKE) but I and most of us here see his ‘badness’ as ‘normal’ flaws any of us might have in his circumstances–being a 1000 year old Viking and all lol–but in MY mind at least Bill is VENAL but this has not been made plain at all. A moral equivalence between the two is only possible with a lot of ‘propaganda’ to ‘even the playing field’ which is exactly what has been happening within the show up to now.

                      As I posted at TBU, just ‘gimme some truth’ in season 3. I’m tired of all the lies and obsfucations. Bring it.

              • 151 RubySun
                June 10, 2010 at 5:30 pm

                Ok, I haven’t made it through the whole thread here, but I had to add my two cents. Haven’t ya’ll been thinking on another post that RE was maybe out for SA’s throne or in cahoots with her or what if he is really one of the PTB like some have been speculating? My thought is that SA obtained Bill through RE somehow for this mission involving Sookie, so she knows that Bill has links back to RE. If Bill knows about E selling V, then it would be reasonable to say that Bill may leak this info back to RE, and SA does not want him to know about this for some reason.

                Not sure why she wants to keep this from RE, but maybe it has to do with her line when she is talking about being broke? Maybe she is doing it to raise money?

                • 152 MASpencer
                  June 10, 2010 at 5:40 pm

                  Good points. I think the real question here– with respect to both the V-selling AND the appropriation of Sookie– is whether Sophie-Anne was acting on her own, or if she’s acting at the behest of some higher authority.

                  My guesses (and they’re only guesses): The V-selling is part of a larger conspiratorial plan on behalf of the “shadow government,” which Eric doesn’t realize yet. But the mission for Sookie is 100 percent personal for Sophie-Anne.

                  Either way, I can’t wait to see how this all plays out…

                  • 153 RubySun
                    June 10, 2010 at 5:52 pm

                    Agreed! Whatever happens, I think it will be exciting.

                    Also I was thinking, maybe Eric was hoping to interrupt Bill and Sookie’s romantic dinner, when he decided to bring Bill in to Fangtasia that night. Kind of killing two birds with one stone.

                    • 154 Robin
                      June 10, 2010 at 6:13 pm

                      But why would he want to have Sookie upset with him? That would serve no purpose if he is starting to have feelings, unless he knew Bill was going to propose marriage?

                    • 155 MASpencer
                      June 10, 2010 at 6:21 pm

                      Oooh. COULD he have known about the engagement?????? And is it possible that he knew about the plans for the date for some other reason than Lafayette informing him???

                      I don’t know. But we DO know that Eric isn’t above cockblocking– case in point, booking the suite with no bed. So I think it’s fair to say that he wouldn’t have a problem spoiling Bill and Sookie’s romantic evening.

                    • 156 sunnynala
                      June 10, 2010 at 6:25 pm


                      I don’t know. But we DO know that Eric isn’t above cockblocking– case in point, booking the suite with no bed. So I think it’s fair to say that he wouldn’t have a problem spoiling Bill and Sookie’s romantic evening.

                      I don’t think Eric would have lost his cool to such an extent just because his ‘cockblocking’ had failed.

                      No, something else is going on here. What it is ain’t exactly clear. LOL.

                    • 157 Robin
                      June 10, 2010 at 6:34 pm

                      Like I said earlier, I just hope that we get a scene early in the episode that reveals what Eric’s intentions were for wanting to bring in Bill. Was it going to be a kidnap attempt or was he going to speak to him as his Sheriff? And, can we justify his motivations?

                    • 158 RubySun
                      June 10, 2010 at 6:52 pm

                      No, I don’t hink he’s lost his cool over the dinner part of it, obviously (imo) he’s lost it cause now he can’t “take care” of the problem that Bill might leak the V info. But I do agree that E is not above cockblocking Bill just because he can. Book Eric would and did, TBE does as well.

            • 159 Serena
              June 10, 2010 at 4:44 pm

              MAS, you should get your own section called “MAS’s rants,” these things are worth their weight in gold. lol. I heart cha!

            • 163 sunnynala
              June 10, 2010 at 5:12 pm

              I honestly do not think QSA has or will abort the mission because Bill is not ‘detached’. Bill’s ‘feelings’ for Sookie may be a minor annoyance to her but really, from her pov there is nothing Bill can do to stop her mission–UNLESS HE FINDS OUT ABOUT HER PART IN THE V. Hence the reason for her direct warning to Eric that Bill ‘better not’ find out.

              After all, if Bill DID find out about her part in the v dealing he would not rat her out for the hell of it or because he has a moral problem with V dealing, he would use the knowledge to THREATEN her and force an end to her mission or to get out from under it himself. IOW, the only reason QSA is concerned with Bill finding out about the V dealing is because he could thwart the mission.

              If not for the mission, SA could simply have him killed if he found out about the V.

              As for Eric, all of SA’s warnings about Sookie were in the form of not-so-friendly-advice. Eric was not supposed to infer from her comments that Sookie is of great importance to her but her OCD harping on the telepath had the effect of making him suspicious anyway, at least it did with me (and I had no idea of the book edict when this scene took place) so I’m sure it did with Eric.

              • 164 MASpencer
                June 10, 2010 at 5:18 pm

                True, she may NOT have aborted the mission. But judging from spoilers that Sookie meets up with a frightened and confused Hunter (and I assume Hadley) at the aquarium (which, I assume, would be in New Orleans), I’m suspecting that Sophie-Anne might have said SCREW BILL– and decided that if you want something done you have to do it yourself.

                I’ll admit that this is pure speculation, though. It may not work out that way at all.

                • 165 sunnynala
                  June 10, 2010 at 5:24 pm

                  Well sure, with Bill out of the picture she has to change tactics. She could use Hunter as a lure to reel Sookie in. Maybe even an extortion attempt. “Come with me or the kid gets it” or something like that. She’s bound to be desperate by this time and throwing caution and subtlety to the winds.

    • 166 Feather
      June 10, 2010 at 6:17 am

      so uh, who was supposed to bring Bill to him then? my video keeps skipping on the part with the name….

      • 167 Feather
        June 10, 2010 at 6:29 am

        n/m, thats what i get for commenting before reading the entire thread :/

        who is ruben?

        also, Pam sassing Eric like that was kind of weird for me. praps because i’m used to her calling him Master. i know Pam is sassy but she’s usually more deferential to him, isn’t she?

        • 168 Freyja
          June 10, 2010 at 6:38 am

          In the books she always speaks her mind, and usually Eric lets her, that if she isn’t out of line.

  6. 169 Paloma
    June 10, 2010 at 4:48 am

    I’m searching everywhere for these clips! I can’t wait see what you are all talking about! I think this season will be great!!!

  7. June 10, 2010 at 5:07 am

    L – The E Weekly video (it’s in moderation because of the link) is totally off topic and I can’t post it here.

    We will soon have a forum where you guys can set the agenda for discussion. Until then, this is a blog and as such, you just have to let me do it 🙂

    Thanks, SVB.

  8. 174 Liz
    June 10, 2010 at 5:53 am

    Keeping the suspicion on Eric is just a bone for BB’s. Eric was so hot in both scenes. I liked Joe as Alcide, he was pretty close to my version, i dont see their chemistry together as great as the books described however. My favorite part of that clip was how he said Northman, so much more masculine than how Bill wines Erics name.
    My prediction is Alcide will be to Eric, what Sam was to Bill in season 1, just enough tension to keep things interesting, cause who doesnt want 2 hot studs fighting over you?

    • 175 liv
      June 10, 2010 at 6:14 am

      I think they should make more clear to the show viewers, why all these men are attracted to Sookie, before it’ll veer into the ridiculous.

  9. 177 liv
    June 10, 2010 at 5:58 am

    Is it just me or is the first clip with S/A utterly boring? Joe has to easen up on the accent and what is that grimace Anna Paquin makes, when she says she’s sorry?

    • June 10, 2010 at 6:09 am

      He did seem a little…forced…in that scene but I think we probably should give him a couple of episodes to get into the character. I think he’ll find his groove soon enough.

      I have such a gripe with Alcide from the books even though, like Quinn, he is really important to the story. It’s going to be interesting to see if I can invest in Joe’s Alcide because Book Alcide can go fuck himself after DITF, as far as I’m concerned.

      Not to put too fine a point on it, or anything.

      While I am deciding if I like him or not, I will be content to take in the view 🙂

      • 179 liv
        June 10, 2010 at 6:21 am

        Oh yes, I’ll reserve judgment, and I can see how the blandness in this scene could be a part of Alcide’s characterization, because he’s not too eager and interested in helping Sookie at first. I need to see more. He’s eyes are very gentle, if he can bring the danger too, then it’s all good.

      • 180 Liz
        June 10, 2010 at 6:22 am

        Club dead is the only book i liked Alcide in, so i hope i can like him in the show for a little bit. I always found Bill too stiff/boring, but i had hopes for Alcide, so his downfall will be harder for me to watch.
        I also really hope we get to see Quinn, that would be some kind of entertainment to see in HD, as long as genie pants are included

        • 181 CarolB
          June 10, 2010 at 10:18 am

          I agree, I kind of had hopes for Alcide and Sookie hooking up in CD (plus it didn’t hurt that I was picturing him as Hugh Jackman/Wolverine!), but even then he was temperamental to say the least, and after his, um, “display” after the pack leader contest,that was it for me.
          And yeah, AB HAS to have Quinn show up, I cannot wait to see who ends up playing the babe-bothering rock star of the were-world!!
          With all these hot males in TB, at this stage AB could hand the writing over to some porn writers and I’d still tune in just to watch them fix Sookie’s washing machine! ;-D

    • 183 Patty
      June 10, 2010 at 2:57 pm

      Oh I completely agree about his accent…there is something not right about it. Those two have a very odd screen interaction. I don’t see any chemistry at all. I was hoping someone else noticed that!

  10. 184 Dwimordene
    June 10, 2010 at 10:00 am

    Oh my… The clip with Eric and Pam is heartbreaking… He acts so good! All his body expresses fear. He doesn’t fear the queen though, but getting catch, because the queen will sell him and his word wouldn’t be believed over hers.

    But I believe all this is going to fall back to her. The magister must surely know many things, he wouldn’t be in his position if he believed the word of anyone, no, he finds the truth… And this is a very important matter…

    And the queen should be frighten if the magister don’t kill Eric, because Eric is going to get everything fit so that this doesn’t happen again, even if he has to deal as a king and he doesn’t like that possition, it is the only way to keep on surviving.

    The chess game is getting very exciting 😀

  11. 185 ChelleInOz
    June 10, 2010 at 10:12 am

    Okay, WOW – just saw all the clips! My stream-of-consciousness observations:

    1.I really wouldn’t want to get on the wrong side of that Viking temper………Eric pissed off is something to behold….though I did then drifted off into a daydream about all that passion and energy being directed to more pleasurable exploits, but, I digress (its not hard with all that chest and red silk being taunted in your face)…

    2. I found Pams vamp dominatrix outfit hilarious. I bet they had a few laughs off camera with that one…

    3. The clip with E&S – Eric’s I’ve said too much moment…..Yes! yes sookie there is more to the hot Viking than meets the eye, there are depths that have not yet been plundered and here’s hoping AB gives us more of those depths to cherish…..I can’t wait for AE season 4 (okay, I’m getting ahead of myself here)

    4. Is it just me or is AP’s acting a little more subtle this season? I know’s some TB fans haven’t loved AP’s portrayal, I;ve been abit annoyed with some of her acting, though I still think AP is pretty good, but it seems less shouty/loud, less sarcastic, more nuanced….

    • June 10, 2010 at 10:59 am

      I was thinking that…and then I watched the Jessica clip.

      She is absolutely painful. Bitchy, whiny, bossy Sookie in full on mode.

      • June 10, 2010 at 11:14 am

        SVB, ahh… a lot of strong women are referred to as bitchy and bossy,sometimes whiny. When Sookie is sans Bill, she is determined and strong, the personification of a Steel Magnolia as I understand the phrase.

        • June 10, 2010 at 11:25 am

          I get that. But I found her irritating beyond belief in that scene. Even after three seasons, she just does NOT get this character. Or maybe I just don’t get this Sookie. I don’t know.

          I watched 1.01 last night for the first time in ages. THAT was the Sookie I love, this Sookie is kind of a stranger. I don’t feel the same connection with her.

          It doesn’t help that she is being written as a whiny, dependent pain in the ass either.

          • June 10, 2010 at 11:35 am

            With luck, maybe she’ll grow on you this season SVB. I don’t mind her at all. Some of the issues you mention could be direction. Book Sookie to me was much the same, with a little more sass tossed in. I hope that sass is written in for AP instead of whiny. That’s what may be missing…more sass than whine.

            • 190 Freyja
              June 10, 2010 at 12:23 pm

              I think Sookie in TB is whiney when ever she’s with Bill or talking about Bill. In other she’s great, it’s like two Sookies for me. And I think the season 3 Sookie will grow on me alot more.

          • 192 Jo
            June 10, 2010 at 12:07 pm

            I agree with you 100%, that’s what makes me sad, NEVER, NEVER see Sookie in AP (and I’m not talking about his physical appearance), I’m sorry, but even with the defects that Sookie in the book she has not is so nasty, sometimes I wish she was in Vermont with Bill and never come back. So it’s very hard to believe that the Eric wants Sookie in the show.

          • 193 sunnynala
            June 10, 2010 at 6:13 pm

            Did you see her comments to Kristin from E! at the premiere after party? She does NOT get E/S and every word out of her mouth about them just dripped disdain. Eric ‘has not exactly been straightforward with her’. Her feelings for Eric can be summed up as ‘what is your deal?’ and so forth. The BL’s were loving it, I tell ya.

            • 194 Kathy
              June 10, 2010 at 6:29 pm

              Yeah, those comments added to Stephen’s do not give me a good feeling about this season. You know they keep talking about not knowing any of their past or motivation until they get the next script. That makes for a really psychotic character. Don’t the writers have bibles on each character? They should have at least given them some background. But I’ve heard them talk about Alan letting them come up with it themselves. And I’ve also heard Alex and others say the writers take their character suggestions as well. It just ends up being a hot mess if they don’t know why they’re doing what they’re doing. That’s part of the problem with the show. And there’s no excuse for it. There’s source material available. That’s why I prefer theatre. You know your arc and your motivations and you react from that truth. These poor actors don’t know why they’re doing something from one day to the next. Did Stephen even know he had a edict the first few episodes of S1. Makes me wonder (I’m being silly now but I’m on a rant!!! LOL)

            • 195 MASpencer
              June 10, 2010 at 6:29 pm

              To be fair, I think she’s referring to Sookie and Eric’s relationship at the START of season 3. I’m sure that dynamic will change significantly over the course of the season… but she can’t well say that because it would be spoilerish.

              Not to US, mind you… but to all the casual viewers (and die-hard Bill fans) who believe that Sookie falling in love with Eric is unthinkable.

              • 196 sunnynala
                June 10, 2010 at 6:35 pm

                I agree with this to an extent MAS, but it was Anna’s attitude while making the comments that really bothered me most. It is clear the Team Eric stuff annoys her enormously. And her comments QUITE contradicted Alex’s comments at the Ultimate Fan event so not wanting to be ‘spoilerish’ doesn’t seem to apply. Let’s not forget, at the time of the premiere they were filming the last ep. If this is still her attitude by this point we have to be worried.

                • 197 Dee
                  June 10, 2010 at 6:50 pm

                  But wouldn’t she give it away if she mentions Sookie’s feelings towards Eric or how her views of him change if she talks about later eps. Kristin talked about first 3 episodes and those of us viewing the vids haven’t even seen the first episode so she can only tell us Sookie’s POV on this matter from very beginning of the show. AP also said somewhere else how she has to be careful what she says because she has a hard time talking about the show without giving any spoilers and that she doesn’t want AB upset with her since she likes him. So that is her just trying to say as much as she can without giving anything away. If she said well Sookie see’s another side to Eric this season and they get to know eachother better then that gives away too much.

                • June 10, 2010 at 6:50 pm

                  Just goes to show she is a good actress. I don’t think for one minute that she is that unprofessional. The dream sequence n S2ep9 is proof to me of her abilities as an actress. Lol.

                  • 199 Freyja
                    June 12, 2010 at 9:01 am

                    I loved that scene, they were both fantastic! And they do have chemistry together on set, so I really don’t believe she has any doubts about the progress in S/E relationship.

              • 200 legalease
                June 10, 2010 at 6:41 pm

                I hope you are right and it makes sense that she’s talking about the first part of the season and not what may come later. She just always seems so kind of cold and resistant when the subject comes up that it gives me pause. I guess if she started giggling and swooning I wouldn’t know what to do!

                I have to say, her comments combined with AB’s blatant pimping of Sookie/Alcide and the “red robe” clip and what it may mean for Eric’s character had me in a bit of a negative mood earlier.

                I think I’m just overwhelmed with too much TB info overload and need the new season to start, like, now!

              • 201 Dee
                June 10, 2010 at 6:43 pm

                I didn’t get disdain either, I really expected to view the video and get annoyed with her. She said yes there are fans of both and she doesn’t give her own personal opinion if whether or not Sookie should be with Eric or showing that she didn’t understand why people want Eric and Sookie. She says there is intrigue there and then says if for no other reason she is curious what he wants from her since he is not a straight forward kind of guy, as in he is not straight forward about his feelings or his intentions about Sookie. He shows interest but never told Sookie why. With the whole “what’s your deal” i think that many of us saw this reaction from Sookie already. On the porch she says how do you do something so generous and selfless and then follow that up with something so disgusting and downright cruel. That is Sookie trying to figure out what his deal is. To be fair, those who haven’t read the books and don’t know anything about Eric and Sookie, yes do wonder the same exact things. Does he want her because she is a telepath, is it purely sexual, does he have feelings, is it an alpha male thing against Bill.

                I think AP actually explained that well, and i was ready to be real pissed at her before I viewed it but I’m glad i’m not lol.

                • 202 sunnynala
                  June 10, 2010 at 6:48 pm

                  Her words weren’t necessarily that offensive to me but it was her attitude that struck me. It probably wouldn’t have if I hadn’t seen this exact thing from her before. Anna always seems to have a problem with Alex/Eric’s popularity. I do think she resents that he has eclipsed SM, and frankly I can understand this to an extent.

                  • 203 Jo
                    June 10, 2010 at 6:57 pm

                    I have heard many people commenting on it, is already getting pretty obvious, you know, I keep seeing these interviews not to be upset

                  • 204 Dee
                    June 10, 2010 at 6:57 pm

                    I don’t know I didn’t really see attitude from her or any disinterest. It’s her trying to think of what to say without giving any spoilers away, I mentioned above how she said she has a hard time talking about the show and trying not to give any spoilers. I used to get annoyed by her attitude also until I realized it’s how she speaks and how she handles interviews, some people just have different personalities. I’m accused all the time of not liking someone or something but of the way I speak lol i find it funny when it’s mentioned to me because I don’t realize I do this and I think it’s a case where people expect to show same reactions as they would to a situation. She said in an interview recently that her and Bill will break up on the show and that if they were to stay together it would be boring. So I don’t think she is biased and wishes for B/S to just be together on the show. Otherwise, she wouldn’t make comments such as B/S remaining a couple on the show would just be boring.

                • 205 Robin
                  June 10, 2010 at 6:51 pm

                  And really, it sometimes takes those that read the books a while to figure out what Eric’s intentions really are. Some people get it as early as book 3, others takes several more books to figure out what Eric wants from Sookie. He is a complicated guy.

                  • 206 sunnynala
                    June 10, 2010 at 6:56 pm

                    I get that and I don’t have a problem with it. I also agree Anna can be a great actress at times and she has great chemistry with Alex.

                    It’s this subtle, underlying resentment Anna seems to have toward Alex’s popularity that gets my goat. We’ve seen plenty of examples of this.

            • 207 Dee
              June 10, 2010 at 6:33 pm

              I went to see the interview after I read this, I didn’t get that impression. When she says he hasn’t been straight forward with her and “what is your deal” she says it when she mentions his interest in her. She doesn’t know why he wants her so much or what he wants from her because he is not a straight forward guy so this leaves Sookie wondering why this obsession with her. I think it’s only normal considering Eric seems to show a disinterest in humans. I can see how people view that when they took those things out of context but she is just explaining Sookie’s POV up until now. Eric hasn’t been straight forward with Sookie how he feels about her or what he wants, is it sex, is it more, is it her powers.

              • 208 Lotus
                June 10, 2010 at 8:27 pm

                I viewed it the same way, Dee. Also, in the scene where Eric is telling Sookie that her life is too valuable to throw away, she appears to be pretty surprised by this and says nothing in response, staring at him while his eyes dart around the room and he steps away from the table. In a recent interview with Alex, he mentioned how Eric doesn’t like to have feelings (just like Eric in the books) and how he suppresses his humanity on purpose. Even after the loss of Godric, the most emotionally difficult loss of his entire life, he tries to return to the same, unemotional place, because that is comfortable for him. It only makes sense that Sookie would have a difficult time “reading” him when he acts one way and then turns around and does something in complete opposition to his previous behavior.

                • 209 Dee
                  June 10, 2010 at 9:08 pm

                  Hell I’d be confused too if some guy was showing signs of interest and telling my BF, but then did things that knew would piss me off too. But meanwhile never spoke to me about any of this and never told me personally he had an interest lol. Especially if I had something that was of use to him, it would make anybody question “what is his motive” my exact thoughts would infact be “WHAT IS YOUR DEAL” Do you just want to sleep with me, do you have feelings for me, do you think i’d be useful to you.

                  I didn’t know AS said that in an interview, i wonder if he did say that because of a line on the show, oh I hope so

                  • 210 Lotus
                    June 10, 2010 at 9:46 pm

                    It was an interview with some of the TB cast for The Daily Beast. Here’s the excerpt of Alex:

                    “[His humanity] is something that Eric always tries to suppress and fight and hold back,” he said. “After Godric died [in Season 2], which was the greatest loss of his life, Eric once again just suppressed it… Sometimes you see a softer side, but he always pulls it back. He hates it when he shows weakness.”

                    It’s a good article about the show. 🙂

                    • 211 Dee
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:49 pm

                      Lotus-Thank you very much, very interesting and hopefully he doesn’t keep pulling back lol. The way he walks away from the table when he tells Sookie her life is too valuable shows that emotion perfectly of pulling back when it becomes visible.

                    • 212 VikingLover
                      June 12, 2010 at 2:22 am

                      That is the greatest quote EVER about TB Eric. Oh man, that is TB Eric in a freaking nut shell. Lotus, thank you so much for posting that.

                    • 213 LLE
                      June 12, 2010 at 2:36 am

                      In Sookie’s dream, Sookie called Eric a big faker. Eric does not want people to see his humanity.

                    • 214 pennydreadful
                      June 12, 2010 at 2:39 am

                      It reminds me of a quote from Oscar Wilde’s The Importance of Being Earnest, “I hope you have not been leading a double life, pretending to be wicked and being really good all the time. That would be hypocrisy.” 😛

                    • 215 Lotus
                      June 12, 2010 at 3:02 am

                      No problem, guys. 🙂

                      Dee – Yes, I can see exactly what he’s talking about and it makes so much sense in this portrayal of Eric. It also fits with BookEric’s line about “I don’t like having feelings.”

                      For me, Askars embodies Eric. The character comes alive on the screen. It’s really amazing to watch.

                      VL – This is going to be a great year for character evolution, not only in the case of Eric but for a majority of the BT crew. AB said this season would be about identity, which I LOVE because this is where the real inner work will begin for Sookie in regards to her relationship with Bill, while Eric battles with his humanity and the ghosts of his past. Then you have the wonderful supporting cast and Pam! Who can forget Pam? Loved KB’s interview with TV Guide. Here’s a sample:

                      TVGuide.com: This season is so much more supernatural, but you’ve already been immersed in that playing a vampire.
                      Bauer van Straten: Yes. My world is more about my relationship with Eric [Alexander Skarsgård] and the politics of the vampire world. You get to see Pam’s astoundingly deep relationship with Eric and where her integrity and loyalty lies. She’s still sarcastic, she’s still wearing amazing clothing, but also we see the person behind the vampire.

                      TVGuide.com: How will Pam feel about Eric being distracted by Sookie (Anna Paquin) this season?
                      Bauer van Straten: We are dealing with that. Pam is such a great lieutenant because she wants to keep Eric’s eye in the game, but her main focus is to always have him around. She’d give her life for this guy. We’ll discover her purpose in Eric’s life.

                    • 216 Lotus
                      June 12, 2010 at 3:06 am

                      LLE – YES. Loved that line.

                      penny – Perfect. 🙂 Although I don’t really think Eric’s all that “good”, but he’s definitely not an evil villain by any stretch!

            • June 10, 2010 at 9:03 pm

              Yeah I did see that.

              But really, what she thinks is irrelevant. It’s not like she gets to write the scripts 😉

            • 218 ChelleInOz
              June 11, 2010 at 9:16 am

              Sunny I totally agree – I didn’t post a comment after I saw those E interviews cause I didn’t want to stir up the Bill vs Eric dichotomy, but I have noted in quite a few interviews that AP does not like questions on the E/S romantic storyline. Which I find odd, because as an actress wouldn’t you want to cherish all the fabulous twists and turns in the storyline, for your character. It seems to me that she is firmly in the Bill camp regardless of what CH has written or indeed what AB has created (and will create) for TB. I don’t get it.

              • 219 millarca21
                June 11, 2010 at 9:49 am

                The obvious answer is that she’s biased because she’s engaged to the actor who plays Bill, and this prevents her from being open to the idea of Sookie/Eric and she feels she would be being disloyal to SM if she were to take up with Eric. I know she has been a professional actress for many years and should be beyond that, but she’s only human so maybe it is as simple as that.

                • 220 Kathy
                  June 11, 2010 at 11:42 am

                  As an actress myself, this disappoints me but also makes me understand why sometimes she’s off. She’s judging her character and character’s choices. You just can’t do that and be a good actor. You can’t judge them you have to embrace what they do, understand it, even if what they do is horrible.

                  ChelleInOz is right she should love the meatiness of the role and the way her character continues to open as she goes from one experience and relationship to another.

                  • 221 Freyja
                    June 11, 2010 at 11:53 am

                    Well she didn’t seem so closed off when it came to Alcide.

                    • 222 legalease
                      June 12, 2010 at 3:16 am

                      Yes, I got that impression as well. I’m not sure why she’d be open to Sookie exploring a relationship with Alcide but not with Eric. Perhaps it just comes down to preferences for certain characters. I sometimes forget that there are people out there who do not like the Eric character, as hard as that is to believe.

      • 223 ChelleInOz
        June 10, 2010 at 11:18 am

        Haha, yeah SVB there was some excessive ‘face acting’ from AP in that….perhaps its wishful thinking on my part….I guess i will have to reserve judgement till we get those delicious season 3 eps….

    • June 10, 2010 at 11:07 am

      ChellelnOz, I so agree with Eric’s I’ve said too much moment. It was not subtle. Couple that with his declaration in the DOD, I want what he(Bill) has. (paraphrasing) and it makes you want to shout, SOOKIE WAKE UP. This promises to be one hell of a season.

  12. 228 Serena
    June 10, 2010 at 11:00 am

    Awww, man. I go to bed relatively early for once and then the slushy hits the fan. Grumble. I’m going back to sleep, stupid Debbie Pelt in Sookie’s house gave me nightmares. Grumble. Grumble.

    Hey Dee, we finally get to see the red robe, 😉 , but we still haven’t seen your preview, right?

    • 229 Dee
      June 10, 2010 at 4:25 pm

      LOL see I’m not crazy haha. Yeah at this point I’m officially convinced that promo was made just for my viewing pleasure LOL thank you TB

  13. 230 KC
    June 10, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    I agree about TB Sookie versus book Sookie; book Sookie is generally funny, clever and insightful. AP’s Sookie hasn’t shown much of her … yet. Here’s hoping we see more of *that* Sookie in season three.

    • 231 Freyja
      June 10, 2010 at 12:30 pm

      I think that’s how she’s been written. Hopefully we’ll get to see independant, funny Sookie this season. But I did love her in the dream scenes 🙂

  14. 232 Kat
    June 10, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Oh My!

    Joe is so HAWTTTTT i actually gasped when i saw that pic.

    Hmmm my fantasy’s now feature another TB cast member, and that red robe…. Enough Said

  15. 233 Serena
    June 10, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Can I say I really hate seeing Eric with a Bluetooth thingy? And Nan Flanagan too, is this a product placement or what? It just reminds me of all those Bluetooth douchebags on the train, just stop already and get an iPhone. douches.

  16. 234 VikingLover
    June 10, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    I love that E/S scene sooo much!! It was better than I has anticipated. When I first saw the promo, and heard him say that her life was too valuable, I was happy but I thought they would make it more ambiguous. But when I watched it, and saw how intense he became and how even he was taken aback by the intensity of his own emotions, well it was like a gift!!! I loved it and now I’m even more freaking excited about porch scene.

    • 235 Millarca
      June 10, 2010 at 1:11 pm

      ‘Tis the stuff dreams are made of. *wibble* I have allowed myself to become extremely excited about their relationship.

    • 237 Freyja
      June 10, 2010 at 1:18 pm

      oh yes, I love seeing Sookie and Eric together when she’s not screaming or slapping 🙂 And I can’t get past this scene, it’s adorable, that is if they don’t ruin it with him saying something about her telepathy right after.
      For me, I think AS and AP work well together on screen, better than AP and SM.

      • 238 Angie
        June 12, 2010 at 9:54 pm

        I think AS and AP work well together on screen, better than AP and SM.

        I think so too. I think AP and SM had much more chemistry in the first few episodes, before they were a couple. I’m always reminded of Joey’s explanation on Friends of how two people who are having sex in real life won’t have chemistry when they’re acting. “Have I ever had chemistry with *any* of my co-stars?” lol.

    • 239 Serena
      June 10, 2010 at 1:31 pm

      I love it so much too, more than anything we’ve seen so far I think. I love he can’t look her in the eye afterwords but he can’t fully look away either, as if he doesn’t know quite what to do with himself. Sigh. So dreamy. I can’t wait anymore, I may need to be locked up in a padded room. I’m starting to go nuts..

      • 240 Robin
        June 10, 2010 at 1:44 pm

        Yes, this scene combined with what he said to her in the DOD scene really reveals the emotions he is starting to feel towards Sookie. It is very telling, and she seems to be picking up on it.

      • 241 Millarca
        June 10, 2010 at 1:45 pm

        Glad I’m not the only one going nuts over this. I just adore that scene. *squee*

      • 242 pie
        June 10, 2010 at 2:07 pm

        Yes!
        i love how he says it, looks to see her reaction, then walks away even more embarrassed…its such a cute thing coming from a guy with such a hard exterior (usually), it just makes him a bazillion times sexier
        *swoon*

        • 243 Angie
          June 12, 2010 at 10:03 pm

          I love the part where he says, “No, I think you’re human.” He doesn’t say it with the disdain that you would expect from him, considering Eric’s general opinion of humans. He says it like he’s worried for her, not because he thinks she’s weak, but because he’s worried about her fragility because she’s not an all-powerful supe.

          I agree, there is nothing sexier than to see a hardened, tough-guy like Eric show vulnerability.

          • June 12, 2010 at 10:49 pm

            This is like in the books where Sookie mentions to Eric that she is Human, when he is drive was to fast to the orgy. He said (paraphasing) that he thinks about her being fragile and human often… They have BE here, just a little later then in the books.

  17. 245 abh
    June 10, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    did anyone else catch where eric said something about “finding a daywalker you can trust”. do you think he was talking about a vampire that could go out in the daylight? wasn’t there talk about QSA possibly trying to become a daywalker, thus the dealing in V?

  18. 248 Mony
    June 10, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    I think he wanted to have a loong talk with Bill a order him to shut the f*** up about the V in a very Eric’s way…
    He didn’t plan to kidnapp him…i mean he just wanted to remeber him who’s the Sceriff and who’s nothing…..

  19. 249 LydiaB
    June 10, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    To me it’s obvious that he wanted someone to drag Bill in and give him a good talking to so he’d keep his mouth shut. That’s not the same as “kidnapping.” Had this Ruben guy go to Bill before Lorena and said, “I’m here to bring you to Eric,” he’d have to go, yes?

  20. 251 ESFAN08
    June 10, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    I’m getting a lil fired up after visiting the Nest lol. I cannot read any of the B/L comments it makes me wanna scream. I mean how dare Jessica an Pam blame Bill for not teaching Jessica how to feed. Jessica was with Eric for 2 Weeks after she was first turned, not sure where they got 2 Weeks but whatever, an Eric was obviously a bad Step Daddy to Jessica since Eric should have taught her how to feed lol. 1. How is Eric Jessica’s Step Daddy? 2. Eric did let Jessica feed off someone at Fangtasia 3. Its Bill’s responsibility to teach Jessica everything she needs to know, he’s such a hypocrit he feeds off People, but Jessica’s not allowed? Also Eric needs to be punished for what he did to Bill at the Tribunal um ok. I dont like Bill, but i dont become dilusional, an start spouting off crap that makes no sense, an Bill hate everytime i see him in a Scene. They have such hate in them lol its crazy. I’m sorry if this cant be posted here feel free to remove it if need be. I just needed to vent the rage that bubbled up in me reading this crap lol.

    • 252 VikingLover
      June 10, 2010 at 4:46 pm

      Well Hon, they will always feel that way – no matter what is shown. Both Bill and Eric will always be complex characters – neither all good or all bad. I usually try to stay out of those sites for my own sanity. That’s why I love it here – all Ladies after my own heart! Lots of Viking love! 🙂

    • 253 Ana
      June 10, 2010 at 6:15 pm

      At the end of season 1, just before Eric brought Jessica to Bill’s home, doesn’t it say: “Two weeks later”?
      So Eric did let Jessica feed off someone for two weeks, why didn’t he teach her how to feed? while she was staying with him, it was certainly HIS responsibility to teach her those things, and while she is with Bill, of course it is BILL’S responsibility.

      • 254 Serena
        June 10, 2010 at 6:26 pm

        IMO, Jessica was such a newb, that they couldn’t let out of their sights. So they didn’t let her ‘hunt’ nor did they allow her to drink without telling her when to stop, (but they didn’t necessarily tell her ‘why’ to stop). Does that make sense?

        • 255 MASpencer
          June 10, 2010 at 6:35 pm

          I’m with you Serena– you could make the argument that ERIC should have taught her that. But in the first two weeks, it seems like that might be like trying to teach a newborn table manners. You don’t put the cart before the horse.

          Besides, it WASN’T really Eric’s responsibility in the first place. Still, I think that, if she HAD stayed with him, she WOULD know how to feed properly by now. But I’m admittedly biased…

          • 256 Ana
            June 10, 2010 at 6:48 pm

            Well, at least you admit being biased.

          • 257 Serena
            June 10, 2010 at 6:56 pm

            They prob put an egg timer on her, ok time to stop, and they prob only taught her the basics. And she may have ‘unlearned’ a thing or too from Bill’s ‘green education,’ how many chances did she have to feed on humans even when she was with Eric and how much would she have remembered from then? (I’m biased too, but I’m fully convinced we both could run logistical circles over any BL’s head anyday, lol.)

            • 258 Ana
              June 10, 2010 at 7:14 pm

              “I’m fully convinced we both could run logistical circles over any BL’s head anyday,lol”

              I’m pretty sure you can, we are (BL’s) after all, delusional.

              • 259 Serena
                June 10, 2010 at 7:25 pm

                Oh I only meant we are relentless in arguing. not necessarily a reflection on BL’s. have u seen MAS’s rants?

                • 260 Serena
                  June 10, 2010 at 7:58 pm

                  And I don’t like having words put in my mouth that I did not say. That’s unfair, Ana. If I were to pick a word for it I would say ‘conditioned’ or ‘predisposed’ or ‘educated’ even. Just as I am those words in my regards towards Eric and not for a vampire that represents murderous tendencies or violence against women. But as I said vampire, our morals need not apply, it really comes down to preference and choice to camp behind a particular ideaology found within those characters. So not delusional, no.

                • 261 pennydreadful
                  June 10, 2010 at 8:07 pm

                  Serena- I took your statement as meaning, “The wild tin foil hat theories that we endlessly debate here… you won’t find on a Bill-centric site” rather than an attempt to bash Bill fans. Just yesterday, we exasperated VL’s patience by by meandering off topic that the whole V storyline could be a critique of the pharmaceutical industry 😛 lol

                  • 262 Serena
                    June 10, 2010 at 8:32 pm

                    Exactly. I don’t think anyone talks endlessly about such randomn crap or mere possibilities as we do. We go to lengths most wouldn’t. No one can beat us at wordy bullshit.Lol.

                    • 263 pennydreadful
                      June 10, 2010 at 8:38 pm

                      I’m convinced that most of us are a bit too obsessional about detail as well…

                      “Hey, did you notice that in the promo that Steve Newlin has nine buttons on his oxford button up shirt…obviously, he MUST be pussylover9!” 😉

                    • 264 Serena
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:09 pm

                      Lol, Pennyd. But he was in the Dallas area, and he may be a self hating vampire as well as a homosexual, hence the overcompensation with the 9 buttons. lol.

                      And I think my original statement has been fulfilled. Here I was ready to break out the ole Bertrand Russell too. lol.

                    • 265 sunnynala
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:12 pm

                      Lol. How I love Bertrand Russell.

                      Big surprise, eh? 😉

                    • 266 Serena
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:16 pm

                      Not in the least Sunny. Lol. I dropped that mostly for your entertainment purposes only, my sistah by anothah mothah. lol.

                    • June 10, 2010 at 11:30 pm

                      Bertrand Russell? Pashaw! We need Joseph Campbell and Eliad to get to the allegorical significance of those buttons and the meaning of the sacred number nine.

                    • 268 Serena
                      June 11, 2010 at 12:05 am

                      Renee, Bertrand Russell has a quote for EVERYTHING. lol. The one I was going to use earlier would have been superfluous anyway, but in this context this one fits perfectly:

                      “Mathematics may be defined as the subject in which we never know what we are talking about, nor whether what we are saying is true.”
                      -Bertrand Russell

                      Zing! Who needs those dudes. lol.

                    • June 11, 2010 at 12:13 am

                      See there. THAT is my problem with Bertrand Russell. He just ended all the fun! Pfif!

      • 270 legalease
        June 10, 2010 at 6:31 pm

        Eric was not Jessica’s maker so, no, it was not his responsibility. It doesn’t matter who Jessica was staying with or that Bill tried to pawn her off on Eric, Bill is her maker so he is ultimately responsible.

        • 271 Ana
          June 10, 2010 at 6:41 pm

          Eric was doing Bill the “favor” of taking care of Jessica (and it wasn’t for free), so, yes, it was his responsibility, if she would have killed someone while she was staying with Eric, would it be Bill’s fault? I’m sure your answer is yes.

          • 272 MASpencer
            June 10, 2010 at 6:45 pm

            No. If she had killed someone while staying with Eric, it WOULD have been ERIC’S fault, as it was HIS responsibility to keep an eye on her, regardless of her immature feeding techniques.

            • 273 MASpencer
              June 10, 2010 at 6:46 pm

              And I guess the point is also that she DIDN’T kill someone on Eric’s watch, or under his roof.

              You can chalk that up to luck… I chalk it up to plain old decent supervision.

              • 274 pennydreadful
                June 10, 2010 at 6:53 pm

                Let’s not forget that Bill is such a craptasticly negligent maker that he actually intended to leave Jessica unsupervised while he and Sookie went to Dallas. Nor has he warned his progeny how to avoid the very real dangers of drainers, religious fanatics, hep D, etc.

                If Bill were human, we’d call him a selfish SOB and a deadbeat Dad.

                • 275 sunnynala
                  June 10, 2010 at 7:07 pm

                  Plus “she has no family”. Really Bill? What are you, her jailer?

                  He doesn’t want Sookie befriending her. He won’t let her safely feed on willing humans even though he does it with Sookie.

                  She can’t even buy her own clothes, and gets thrown across the room for kissing a boy.

                  F*CK do not even get me started…

          • 276 legalease
            June 10, 2010 at 6:48 pm

            It’s not about my preference for one character over the other, it’s that vampire law holds a maker responsible for his or her child. So yes, Bill would be at least partly responsible if Jessica killed someone while with Eric. Even human law holds parents responsible if their minor child gets into trouble, whether or not the parent is with the child at the time. By siring Jessica, Bill was Jessica’s parent and making her stay with Eric does not change that.

            • 277 Ana
              June 10, 2010 at 7:01 pm

              “It’s not about my preference for one character over the other”

              True, but you have to admit that most (if not all) of the people who post on this blog are incredibly biased and you will condemn Bill for just about anything.

              • 278 MASpencer
                June 10, 2010 at 7:02 pm

                I think we all try to be fair Ana. I know I do, at least.

                • 279 Ana
                  June 10, 2010 at 7:11 pm

                  I don’t know if you are fair or not, but for what I’ve read on this blog I can tell most of you think Bill is evil.
                  All I know is that as a BL, I don’t like to be called delusional just because I have a different opinion than yours.

                  • 280 MASpencer
                    June 10, 2010 at 7:20 pm

                    Well ask anyone here and they’ll tell you that I stick up for Bill A LOT. I’ve had lots of virtual rotten tomatoes thrown at my virtual face because of it. LOL.

                    But while I wouldn’t call Bill EVIL by any stretch, I would say that he’s got issues. And he hurts a lot of people– including himself– because of them.

                  • 281 MASpencer
                    June 10, 2010 at 7:24 pm

                    I don’t think Bill is the paragon of virtue, but I also don’t think he’s evil at all. And I’m very vocal about that fact.

                  • 283 Dee
                    June 10, 2010 at 7:54 pm

                    I think vampires are Evil period. Well they are predators and we are their prey if you think about it. This is how they all start out EVIL, some like to think different but it’s just the truth. I also don’t think Bill is that evil, my reasons for not liking him simply have to do with what he does to Sookie. Some forgave him for his actions and that is fine as we are all entitled to our own opinions. I do think he loves her though.

                    I think it goes both ways with fans. I go on Bill-centric sites and all you see is “eric is evil, horrible, disgusting” people talk about fans of eric and if thats the type of man we like we can have him and go on to criticize the type of people who like Eric.

                    • 284 MASpencer
                      June 10, 2010 at 8:13 pm

                      You and my husband should hang out, Dee! He bitches about the metaphorical castration of the vampire genre regularly, and longs for the old days of ‘Near Dark’ and ‘The Lost Boys’ when vampires were still… well… VAMPIRES. For myself, I really don’t care. I mean, I’ve always been a horror film buff… but I like ‘True Blood’ mostly because it’s a good drama, period. The supernatural elements are just icing.

                      I don’t watch any other vampire shows (though I rented ‘Twilight’ and ‘New Moon’ out of sheer curiosity… BARF), and the only other vampire books I’ve read (besides the SVM) are Dracula and (more recently) The Strain.

                      But… I should also add that my husband’s favorite “vampire” movie is ‘Martin.’ Which may be one of the FIRST movies to “humanize” vampires, to an extent. So he has no room to talk. LOL!

                    • 285 Dee
                      June 10, 2010 at 8:30 pm

                      LOL MAS, I don’t mind though when they show their human side. But when we see a vamp doing certain bad things, I don’t think we can look at it as OMG that vampire is being bad lol because well they are vampires, sort of an oxymoron to say a bad vampire. Some can get past what their nature is and maintain some humanity. When there is a vamp that shows more of his/her human side, now that is when you point out OH WOW a good vamp because that is the rare occurrence.

                      I like Eric in the books when he shows human feelings so I don’t mind it. In the books at first we’re introduced to Eric and some think of his as the villain or all evil but the further you get into the books you realize he is not. You see others like QSA, Victor, Peter and many others who are very different than Eric. He can be ruthless but he is fair and loyal, those who work for him point out that he is a good boss. He doesn’t force women to sleep with him, which shows that this is common practice among vampire bosses, and he doesn’t try to control everyone and keep them only by his side.

                      I hope that made sense lol, but basically I don’t mind vamps that show their good side, and I like TB because they show good vamps but also make sure to show us the other side and real nature of them.

                    • 286 Feather
                      June 10, 2010 at 8:48 pm

                      i don’t think being a predator makes one evil… you have to eat what you have to eat, right? there’s no evil in simply living, is there?

                    • 287 Dee
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:18 pm

                      Feather-But it goes further than just the predator part, yes they need humans in order to live, up until recently because of the synthetic blood. But that goes back to my point about Eric. Look at all the other vampires, they thought of humans as pathetic and didn’t think twice about what they did to humans. They felt we were there to serve them, even the magister says that on the show. I put vampires into two categories, those who stick to the old ways because truth is they all don’t care for humans, don’t care if they kill them, don’t care what they take from humans. Even how they treat other vamps is shown in the books.

                      Now some vampires even if they did some horrible things in their past, changed their ways. Changed the way they have been taught to think and live. This is how I view Bill and Eric in the books. The fact that they can even be in a serious relationship with a human, love her and even go out of their way to protect her, well that went against everything other vampires believed in. They both changed their lifestyles. So when it came down to it then it became who was better for Sookie and looked at their actions towards her the way I would judge any man. Bill started a relationship based on a huge lie, when he told Sookie he was going to Seattle and knew he might not come back, i didn’t see any regret. He simply told her he is leaving for 8 weeks, might not come back and if that happens to take his DB and give it to Eric. No goodbye and no last words as Sookie left the house crying. He slept with Lorena and then after the break up he paraded his gf at Sookie’s job. Eric was upfront with Sookie, protected her, saved her many times, never hurt her by causing her any emotional pain. He was there for her throughout the books, no matter who she dated, he was the constant in her life.

                    • June 10, 2010 at 11:10 pm

                      Dee, it seems to me that if the premise of the show is that vampires can integrate into society, you can’t use their nature to exempt them from criminal activity. There can’t be a society with one set of expectations for humans and a different one for vampires. In no time, it would be impossible to hold anyone accountable for anything because everyone would be blaming their actions on genetics or how they were raised.

                    • 289 Dee
                      June 10, 2010 at 11:21 pm

                      I don’t exempt them but I just am not surprised to see them act that way. Also, they still act that way even on the show but they are smart enough to fake it for the humans. That’s my point with saying they are evil by nature and not that I excuse their behavior.

                      That is also why I say that vampires like Eddie for example can’t be used for this discussion. They are part of society now but only for the past 2-3 years but before that they weren’t. They didn’t have the option of synthetic blood or living the way we do. So yes there is a difference between how things were before the big revelation and after.

                      My point is simply that it should be of no surprise and not that I agree with them but see them for what they are. I’m sure this season we’ll see even more how vampires still live by their old views even though they don’t have to anymore.

                    • 290 Dee
                      June 10, 2010 at 11:47 pm

                      Plus I think that is a big point on the show. How do we live amongst vampires and have them part of our society when we do have different set of morals and even laws. They are part of our society now yes but at the same time they still have their own government with a different set of laws and judicial system. So this is where there is confusion, do we think vamps should follow only human laws but then what about their own vampire laws. They can be quite opposite from eachother so then is a vampire wrong if they follow their own law and disobey human law. This is where you get conflict on the show and will be a constant battle.

                    • June 11, 2010 at 12:04 am

                      I agree with your point about pre and post GR vampires, and the conflict between vampire and human societies, but it seems to me that this is the nature of integration, is it not? Society has to work out conflicting expectations and come to some sort of compromise. If TB were set 100 after the GR, there would be one society and one government comprised of both humans and vampires, I would hope. Countries that couldn’t manage that would have a two tiered society. In some, the vamps might rule and in others they might be a mistreated minority.

                    • 292 Freyja
                      June 11, 2010 at 12:16 am

                      Did you see this from ‘witchesofbontemps’ above?

                      “Ahem…anyone read Entertainment Weekly yet? RE wants to marry QSA and “unite the vampire and supernatural worlds and bring them together and let them dominate because he believes the human race isn’t worth it…” ”

                      I suspected that this would be the marriage that was talked about, they go with the book storyline.

                    • 293 MASpencer
                      June 11, 2010 at 1:48 am

                      Whoa. DIDN’T SEE THAT.

                      !!!!!!!!

                      I think this is getting to be TMI. But then, would they really allow the actors to divulge this information if it was the WHOLE story?

                      Anyway, if that’s true, it’s more support for Sophie-Anne’s fairydom. Maryann mentioned that Sookie’s otherness was like nature itself.

                      If Russell’s an eco-terrorist, it makes perfect sense that he would have a (metaphorical, if not literal) boner for Sophie-Anne.

                    • 294 MASpencer
                      June 11, 2010 at 2:02 am

                      OR it could be that Sophie-Anne is (or was) a witch herself. You know, considering all that Wicca/witchcraft/God is nature business.

                      Now I’m beginning to wonder if SOPHIE-ANNE will take the place of Hallow.

                      And as for Russell, the marriage is perfect. She likes women, he likes men… it’s the ultimate union of convenience.

                    • June 11, 2010 at 2:16 am

                      {Now I’m beginning to wonder if SOPHIE-ANNE will take the place of Hallow.}
                      MAS: This is very interesting, as is the whole QSA is a fairy. Maybe her ‘otherness’ prior to being turned has caused her to be a little off kilter… It kinda goes back to Jake in the books.

                    • 296 MASpencer
                      June 11, 2010 at 2:28 am

                      Right. In fact, there’s been speculation that Russell was a werewolf before he was turned– so I’m now thinking that it’s almost certain that Sophie-Anne was some kind of supe before coming a vampire (werewolf, fairy, what have you).

                      If she was a werewolf, so much the better– because then I’m almost POSITIVE that True Blood will be combining her character with Hallow, who was a were-witch.

                      Anyway, both of them being “mixed” supes would speak to Russell’s desire to unite the entire supernatural community… for the WHOLLY ironic purpose of world domination.

                    • June 11, 2010 at 2:31 am

                      MAS, this is a really interesting idea about SA. I could see AB giving SA Hallow’s magic and transferring Hallow’s fixation on Eric to Maryann’s fixation on Sam. Since Hallow means holy and set aside for God, even the name fits Maryann who had to the be the most sexually discriminating maenad ever. And of course SA and MA are both bat shit crazy as Pam would say, so that fits perfectly.

                    • 298 MASpencer
                      June 11, 2010 at 2:39 am

                      Yup. Hallow and her brother (whose name I can’t remember) will probably become Sophie-Anne and Russell.

                      Eric will be spelled with amnesia– which would be convenient to them BOTH, Sophie-Anne because of the V-dealing issue and Russell because of the ancient vendetta– and season 4 will revolve around Eric, Pam, and whomever else hatching a plan to get his memory back and take down the burgeoning supernatural fascist regime.

                      Oh, to be in the writer’s room. If THIS doesn’t happen, it BETTER be just as good!

                    • 299 Dee
                      June 11, 2010 at 2:45 am

                      Oh damn I wish I didn’t read that spoiler about SA lol, i read the first line and stopped right away haha. I thought she might’ve been a witch when she was turned so interesting if they make her Hallow or the one to put the spell on Eric.

                    • 300 MASpencer
                      June 11, 2010 at 2:48 am

                      GAH and it could be that Sophie-Anne is rounding up the part-fairy contingent because she intends to give them a “pass” in the new regime.

                      In other words, they WON’T be exterminated… but every other human WILL.

                    • 301 Dee
                      June 11, 2010 at 2:51 am

                      I agree Renee, this is all very new having the vampires and humans living amongst each other, well with the humans knowledge lol. It will take a long time and who knows if vampires can ever agree to that but right now there will just constantly be conflict. Vampires who don’t like this new way of living and those who want to be more human. Also, the fact that when a vamp is good we say their human side shows that it has to do with their nature otherwise why does a good vamp have to be considered more in touch with their human side. That is the good and evil showing right there. Vamp represents their bad side and their human side which they were at one time represents their good side. Vampires aren’t born vampires they are made vampires so although it is their nature they can choose to eliminate any existence of their human life or embrace only their vampire side.

                    • 302 MASpencer
                      June 11, 2010 at 2:51 am

                      ZOMG THEY’LL BE BREEDING THE PERFECT TASTING HUMANS!!!!

                  • 303 Feather
                    June 10, 2010 at 8:51 pm

                    i don’t think Bill is evil. i think he does some douchey things, though.

                    • 304 sunnynala
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:05 pm

                      i don’t think being a predator makes one evil… you have to eat what you have to eat, right? there’s no evil in simply living, is there?

                      IMO, it’s no sin to hunt–as long as you’re hunting to eat. If you’re killing for sport it’s a whole other ballgame.

                    • 305 sunnynala
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:10 pm

                      I mean, if some ignant redneck were to badly wound a deer it would be a merciful thing to shoot it in the head and kill it quickly.

                      So how would one characterize that redneck if he were to deliberatly wound the animal horribly and then not only stand there laughing and mocking while the deer suffered just “because he can” he then got down on the ground and had sex in it’s blood and guts? Would you characterize THAT as evil?

                      What kind of person could do that to an animal?

                      How much worse is it to do that to a human? TWO humans?

                      Why is that NOT evil?

                    • 306 MASpencer
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:16 pm

                      Just to play the devil’s advocate… cats toy with mice and birds for sport. They certainly don’t kill them slowly like dogs would. And that’s most certainly in their nature. It’s also natural for mothers to occasionally eat their young in the wild… or for the weak link in a pack to be killed. Nature is pretty brutal, you have to admit.

                      Being human, we fancy ourselves above all that. And in a sense, we ARE. But we’re still animals at the end of the day.

                      As for vampires, well… it’s been suggested (by Amy– if you want to take her word for it– and Lafayette) that there’s something primal and natural about vampire blood. That it somehow taps into that wild energy.

                      It may be the case that vampires AREN’T inherently moral at all. They have to work at it. Just like, in some ways, humans do.

                    • 307 MASpencer
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:18 pm

                      I meant, they [cats] don’t kill their prey QUICKLY, like dogs typically do.

                    • 308 Dee
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:28 pm

                      “It may be the case that vampires AREN’T inherently moral at all. They have to work at it. Just like, in some ways, humans do.”

                      Mas, you said that perfectly and the point I couldn’t make lol. Basically they have to work at it, some choose not to while others will work at it. As humans we do too, but we start out in life being told it is bad to kill, to steal, to think others should serve us. Vampires start out life being told ok you have to kill in order to survive, you have to steal in order to live, and humans are there to serve us. Their morals and survival is just different from us. There are some exceptions who will choose to live differently.

                    • 309 sunnynala
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:28 pm

                      ust to play the devil’s advocate… cats toy with mice and birds for sport.

                      The difference being that vampires are sentient beings twho are quite capable of compassion and mercy–if they choose–just like humans.

                      We see Jessica will horrified because she accidentally killed the trucker.

                      We’ve seen that Eddie never fed on humans at all, that we saw.

                      Isabel is as tenderhearted and sentimental as Sookie, if not more so.

                      Vampires are ‘who they were when they were turned’. If they were a compassionate, merciful, and tenderhearted human that is the kind of vampire they become.

                      If they were a cold-blooded psychopath as a human, that is who they are as a vampire.

                      IMO, Vampires are not animals, they are superHUMAN, with superhuman powers–which are a huge responsibility. How they respond to these powers is the test of the person, and once again we see that Bill’s response–just like his response to being a maker–is a failure.

                    • June 10, 2010 at 11:53 pm

                      I completely agree with this Sunny.

                      Godric’s whole story arc was about showing us that vampires always have a choice. Even before synthetic blood, when killing was essential to survival, they had choices. Did they kill quicky and mercifully (as we saw Godric do with Eric’s men) or did they kill psychotically and for sport, like we saw with Lorena and Bill.

                      They ARE capable of exercising exceptional control, regardless of age. Jessica has shown us that already – because she could have sex with Hoyt and not only not kill him, but not even BITE him. Book Eric was able to be in constant contact with fairies and keep himself reigned in (albeit with difficulty – but the point is he DID it and he made a concious CHOICE to do it.)

                      This aspect of self control vs instinct is a central idea of both the show, and the books. And it is the reason I will never excuse Bill for the trunk incident.

                      They are definitely trying to show us here that choice is involved. And that makes things a helluva lot more interesting than vampires always being the victim of their instincts.

                    • 311 LLE
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:38 pm

                      Bill killed for sport and food. Jessica killed for food and felt terrible about it. Bill had good time killing those people in Chicago for sport.

                      Eric killed for food and anger. Eric loves a good fight.

                    • 312 Dee
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:42 pm

                      Eddie can’t really be used as an example of never feeding on a human since he was just newly turned, he wasn’t a vampire that long. There is a big difference between vampires who were turned before the big revelation and after. They no longer need human blood to survive, they don’t have to deceive people by stealing from them in order for them to get by. There is just no way Eddie would have lived if he never fed before synthetic blood.

                      Isabelle was kind hearted but at the same time she was ready to give up Hugo and told them to do whatever they wanted to him because of what he did against the vamps.

                    • 313 MASpencer
                      June 10, 2010 at 9:52 pm

                      Yes, but I think the same natural impulses exist in us humans, and have only been sublimated and re-routed into more “civilized” ventures like stock trading or corporate risk analysis. We think that makes us superior beings, because it makes use of our “divine” reasoning powers– but the same brutal natural instincts still drive us. They’re just wearing Armani suits. LOL.

                      At the end of the day, NONE of us is beyond reproach morally… and we ALL justify our less-than-virtuous acts at some point or another. For us, serial murder is the be-all-and-end-all of terrible acts… but lesser crimes, we are widely able (and often willing) to dismiss.

                      Anyway, vampires may be superhuman in terms of their powers and their lifespan, but I’m not sure whether we’re supposed to think that their new “existence” DOESN’T throw vampires back into a state of nature in some way. A state of nature that they have to learn how to navigate with a re-calibrated moral compass… where the occasional murder (or ten) may actually be considered but a MINOR transgression compared to what any given vampire COULD be doing.

                      It’s pretty unclear what the moral message is with respect to vampires and their nature is just yet. Except that whatever vampires’ moral experience is, it seems to be on the FAR outer fringes of human comprehension.

                    • 314 Feather
                      June 10, 2010 at 10:06 pm

                      replying to myself here, have no idea where in the thread this is going to end up 😉

                      you all make excellent points. i must confess, i see some things 100% how i see them, and then i poke around here for awhile and go “crap, i am ttly wrong, why didn’t i think of it that way?”

                      i really oughtta let the smart folks do the talking, and i really should stick to observing, but somehow i just can’t help myself.

                      also, The Lost Boys was brought up further up. favorite movie of all time baby ❤ i became a vampire fan at the age of 8 and never looked back, hehe.

                    • 315 MASpencer
                      June 10, 2010 at 10:16 pm

                      And I hate to go there, but any person who has ever bought commercial meat from a grocery store– or worse, eaten at a fast food chain– has eaten an animal that has, in all likelihood, been unnecessarily tortured.

                      But… because we aren’t doing the torturing PERSONALLY, it’s all too easy to turn a blind eye.

                    • 316 Dee
                      June 10, 2010 at 10:40 pm

                      Feather-I think we’ve all made points and then heard someone else’s and think “oh I didn’t think of it that way” totally normal

                      and I had to comment about Lost Boys because I LOVE that movie, movies that we loved as kids really stick with us. Ahhh the Corey days, my room was filled with Corey Haim pics.

                    • 317 VikingLover
                      June 10, 2010 at 10:59 pm

                      {i really oughtta let the smart folks do the talking, and i really should stick to observing, but somehow i just can’t help myself.}

                      No way Feather! Don’t say things like that! You post your comments and opinions Girl – we are ALL of us smart folk here! 🙂

                    • 318 MASpencer
                      June 10, 2010 at 11:05 pm

                      TOTES what VL said, Feather… which is why this is my favorite place to kill time contemplating the meaning of life. And looking at lady porn. LOL.

                    • June 10, 2010 at 11:40 pm

                      Cerebral versus lady porn…we walk the line 🙂

                    • 320 Serena
                      June 10, 2010 at 11:16 pm

                      Oh Feather formerly Nerd, you’ve made me gone and done it. lol.

                      “Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.” – Bertrand Russell.

                    • 321 pennydreadful
                      June 11, 2010 at 12:03 am

                      SVB & Sunny- I think you’ve both wonderfully articulated one of the central themes of the show: free will (for humans, vamps, weres, and supes of all kinds.)

                      No wonder that I’m utterly obsessed with this blog…I always read such interesting, insightful, and intelligent posts. Well, that and the lady porn is uber awesome as well 😉

                    • June 11, 2010 at 12:06 am

                      ah, you all rock so hard ❤

                      i am glad i found this board! in fact, I only registered as "Nerd" because i wanted to leave one comment. i had no idea i'd be sticking around! but once it became apparent I was hooked on you people, i figured my username should at least have something to do with my sketchblog… (sorry for the OT)

                      Dee – i was soooo smitten with David. SMITTEN! in fact, i can still look at Kiefer in that getup and feel a purr coming on, haha. I even have a framed poster of the Boys hanging in my studio!

                      MAS- okay, that made me giggle out loud 🙂 you are so right though.

                      Serena – thank you for that, I shall keep that in mind.

                    • 323 sunnynala
                      June 11, 2010 at 2:09 am

                      They are definitely trying to show us here that choice is involved. And that makes things a helluva lot more interesting than vampires always being the victim of their instincts.

                      Exactly.

                      Because if they are merely victime of their instincts and cannot control themselves..

                      ..then the FoTS is right and they should all be put to death for the sake of public safety. Humans can’t have rabid, uncontrollable animals roaming around the streets and they would be perfectly within their rights to stake them all while they slept.

                    • 324 Dee
                      June 11, 2010 at 2:26 am

                      Sunny, but of course it is a choice. That is why I said it depends on whether or not they want to. That is why i say that some do change, the reason for change is because they made the choice to do so. So by me saying that they change, it shows the choice they made.

                      I think what I’m saying is not coming across. I am not excusing them at all, I think vampires are known to be evil plain and simple, vampires have always been associated with darkness, not because I said so but because its the way it is. Now on TB some rules are different where they can actually feed from humans without killing them. Changes things around a bit and where there is a gray area. Other vamps don’t have this choice lol it is more black and white.

                      I am simply saying that if I see a vamp killing people and enjoying it, I don’t sit there and think OMG i can’t believe he just did that, how uncharacteristic. Not the way I would react if I saw a human do it. Is what he is doing wrong? yes of course and not saying he is not bad because of it, infact I say it is EVIL because they don’t care to be more human, they give into the dark side of them. It’s not excusing their behavior. Also what I’m saying is that a GOOD vamp is more rare in the vamp world. That is more surprising to me and as the show goes on we will see that there are less vampires who make the right choices. I don’t think I’m saying something that is not true which is vampire morals are very different than humans. It’s a very gray area, it’s not black and white the way it is in our society, the fact that we have to talk about how a person kills shows this as an example. In our society we have it very clearly defined, killing is wrong no matter(i’m not counting self defense) there is no gray area where a person says well when I murdered them I shot them in the heart so they would die quickly and not suffer. Do we excuse that behavior because he was kind about it? But just the fact that we say how a vamp kills is important well that just shows the rules are different.

                  • 325 KPMRSE
                    June 10, 2010 at 11:58 pm

                    For me, the best part of this entire universe is that no one is “good” or “evil”. Everyone is shades of grey. Some are more evolved, have less issues, more compassion, but everyone is flawed in someway.

                    • 326 VikingLover
                      June 11, 2010 at 12:05 am

                      {For me, the best part of this entire universe is that no one is “good” or “evil”. Everyone is shades of grey. Some are more evolved, have less issues, more compassion, but everyone is flawed in someway.}

                      Yesss! Exactly! That’s why I love it too! And this includes humans, Weres, etc. It makes for great debates! 🙂 It also makes the characters much more real for me.

                  • 327 Angie
                    June 12, 2010 at 10:40 pm

                    I don’t think Bill is evil at all, I just think Eric is all-around awesome and he’s my favorite type of character. Everybody has different preferences. Some people just take this show a little too seriously (not talking about you, just – everyone else, lol.)

              • 328 legalease
                June 10, 2010 at 7:16 pm

                I can’t speak for anyone else but, yes, I’m definitely biased towards Eric, that’s why I lurk and post on this board. I can’t imagine that any fan isn’t bias towards at least one character. It’s not about condemning Bill for everything, it’s about admitting that Bill has flaws and screws up just like every other character on this show. There has been more than one occasion where a character has noted on TB that Bill has failed to teach or instruct Jessica about a fundamental vampire technique or principle. I don’t think the show is portraying Bill as a wonderful maker and so my criticizing Bill for being, in pennydreadful’s words, “a selfish SOB and a deadbeat Dad” is fair. It’s not about condemning Bill but, instead of blaming every other character for Bill’s actions or failure to act, putting the onus where it squarely belongs, on Bill.

                • 329 MASpencer
                  June 10, 2010 at 7:28 pm

                  Right. And when Eric fucks up, I also call a spade a spade, even though he IS my HBO boyfriend. LOL.

                  Fair is fair.

                  • June 10, 2010 at 8:39 pm

                    You know what’s great MAS? The poster who obviously jumped into hostile territory with a pov not popular on this site, yet she was treated with respect. Says a lot for the people here. I dare say not everyone has been treated that way on some Billcentric sites.

                    • 331 Janofarc/hamsterbaby
                      June 10, 2010 at 8:42 pm

                      You have no idea. I was threatened with a ban and accused of being hateful and creepy for simply asking a question which indicated Bill’s behaviour was less than gentlemanly.

              • 332 KC
                June 10, 2010 at 9:04 pm

                I’ll only condemn Bill for that which he should be held responsible, and that includes Jessica IMO. I have reason to suspect much more from Bill… I think season 3 will let us know if those events unfold in AB’s Sookieverse.

          • 333 MASpencer
            June 10, 2010 at 7:01 pm

            ALSO, I really don’t consider Eric’s early role in Jessica’s life as a stepfather at all– more like a babysitter. I think he had every intention of returning her to Bill, once Sookie’s life was no longer in danger and there was no reason why Bill COULDN’T take care of HIS child.

            As a babysitter, the only responsibility anyone has is to keep that child in one piece and keep them out of trouble. Teaching is nice, but NOT required. When I babysit as a favor for friends, they expect me to send the baby home with a clean diaper and a full belly– NOT for their child to be able to count to ten in a dozen different languages.

            I dare say I’d CHARGE for my services if they did. LOL.

            • 334 LLE
              June 10, 2010 at 10:51 pm

              Two reason Eric return Jessica back to Bill

              Eric knows that Bill did not tell Sookie about Jessica and he did it to cause trouble for Bill and Sookie.

              Jessica was very annoying and Eric and Pam was free of her.

      • 335 LLE
        June 10, 2010 at 6:33 pm

        Jessica is a newborn and someone watch her and told her to stop when she was with Eric and Pam. Eric let her feed on people. When Eric return Jessica back to Bill, Bill would not let Jessica feed on anyone. Bill is a bad maker and Jessica knows nothing about being a vampire.

        • 336 Ana
          June 10, 2010 at 6:44 pm

          “Someone watch her and told her to stop when she was with Eric and Pam”

          Was this mentioned on the show? I must have missed it then.

          • 337 LLE
            June 10, 2010 at 6:48 pm

            It’s not on show but it has been in the Sookie Stackhouse books. Jake was a newborn and he attacked Sookie and the vampire police got him and taught him to drink human but he was watch to make sure he did not drain the willing blood donor.

            • 338 Ana
              June 10, 2010 at 6:55 pm

              So, we have to assume something happened in the show just because it happened in the books?
              (I have read the books, btw).

              • 339 Dee
                June 10, 2010 at 8:02 pm

                Anna, fans are biased for the most part, it’s just how things are. You don’t think Bill fans do the same thing? recently there was a clip of E/S and all they were doing is talking on the porch and Sookie was called a slut for flirting and how dare she. Soon after we see a clip of Bill sleeping with Lorena and not one person said anything about bad about it and many even couldn’t wait to see the scene. Bill was not condemned for cheating by sleeping with another woman but meanwhile Sookie can’t have conversations? without being called every name in the book. Are some Eric fans biased? yes, do some thing Bill is all Evil? yes. But there are others who don’t think he is all evil. But there are Bill fans who do the same exact thing and one side of the fandom can’t get all the blame when they other side does the same exact thing. I see tons of Eric bashing and I don’t bother asking why they hate Eric or why they are biased, it’s their opinion, the same way I have mine. If it was just EL’s who did this then I’d understand the point.

                • 340 MASpencer
                  June 10, 2010 at 8:15 pm

                  To quote SVB: Fandom is NUTS.

                  If you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen! 😉

                  • 341 pennydreadful
                    June 10, 2010 at 9:09 pm

                    MAS- However, the level of insanity surrounding the SVM and TB fandom indicates just how passionately the fans care for the characters and how much the story lines have personally resonated with them.

                    My only wish is to be entertained and thus far the books and the series have surpassed my expectations. Scratch that…I have another wish. I’d love to see a slashed-for-our-viewing- enjoyment scene between Godric and Eric, or at the very least a flashback of them enjoying a Pamwich. (Yes, I’m a perv :P)

                    • 342 MASpencer
                      June 10, 2010 at 10:20 pm

                      LOL Penny. Preach it.

                    • June 10, 2010 at 11:58 pm

                      OMG. Godric/Eric Pamwich.

                      This needs a fic. Someone get on this shit, STAT.

                    • June 11, 2010 at 12:30 am

                      i’m sure SVB that a pamwich fic are out there already… i believe any with Godric/Eric as the male pair would ROCK!! and i would happily pimp out that fic on Twitter with BOTH my accounts 🙂

                    • 345 pennydreadful
                      June 11, 2010 at 2:59 am

                      Time permitting, I’ll try to write a E/G Pamwich fic that is hot enough to turn my computer monitor into a flaming pile of molten glass and plastic.

                    • 346 Mary22
                      June 11, 2010 at 6:48 am

                      This Pamwich talk just led me to reading fan fiction for the first time (was kinda weary of the whole concept) but gotta say…some of it is pretty good… found me a Godric/Eric/Sookie Vampwich lol

              • 347 KC
                June 10, 2010 at 9:22 pm

                Bill has gotten some very good edits from AB versus the books so maybe Bill’s betrayal won’t happen but since AB has said he will stay true to the “spirit” of the books, I have to think there is a very good chance it will.

                • June 10, 2010 at 11:56 pm

                  It will Cindy. I am the biggest skeptic about Ball’s intention around (after Gigi, who completely OWNS this title lol) but I still think it’s going to happen.

                  • 349 Gigi
                    June 11, 2010 at 2:34 am

                    HAHAHHAHAHA! ME?? skeptic? nahhhh RFLMAO!!!!

                    Yes, I think it will happen. Probably with some differences, but I do think it will happen. Now, if you ask me about the rape…

                    BTW, Tina, I’m sending you a LOT of great NEW pics from TB that aren’t from any trailer, so please, check your mail… 😉

              • 350 VampirePamsGirl
                June 10, 2010 at 11:29 pm

                I think we probably all know better than to assume that just because something happened in the books it will in the show. AB threw those type of assumptions out the window a long time ago. I admit to still hoping for certain things to happen though because I’m just an idiot like that, lol.

                But I think that people that have read the books do often tend to use the rules explained in the books to explain certain stuff on the show when it doesn’t explain the rules, until the show tells us different. We could be wrong and we could be right, but it just happens that way. A great example of that is the way taking/giving blood works… I’m sure it was assumed to be one way until it was explained different on the show.

                I’m not saying that it’s right or wrong to do, I’m just saying that books rules will be used to explain stuff on the show in the absence of explanation from the show itself.

      • 351 LLE
        June 10, 2010 at 6:46 pm

        Jessica was a newborn and did not know when to stop without someone telling her to stop. I had feeling Eric told to stop when she was with him. It’s take while for a newborn to learn to be a vampire and Jessica was a brat and I doubt she paid any attention to what Eric and Pam told her to do and that why they sent her back to Bill.

        Bill was teaching Jessica to drink True Blood and what blood type she prefer. Jessica hated True Blood and prefer people and Bill would not let drink.

        Jessica is learning to be a vampire and she is asking questions to Pam and Pam is giving her answers. Jessica does not want to kill people and did not know how to stop.

        • 352 KC
          June 10, 2010 at 6:56 pm

          IMO, Bill’s attitude is the Sookieverse version of “If you teach abstinence and don’t educate teenagers about birth control, they won’t have sex.” When, in fact, what you end up with are pregnant teens.

      • 355 VampirePamsGirl
        June 10, 2010 at 11:15 pm

        You make a good point Ana and I appreciate that you say it is Bill’s responsiblity to teach Jessica when Jessica was with him and perhaps we can agree that whether you love Bill or hate him, he definitely dropped the ball when it comes to teaching Jessica stuff she needs to know. And yes, perhaps Eric and Pam should have been more thorough in lessons with her while she was with them.

        And I think we’re all always going to be biased in favor of the vamp/person we like and we’re always going to try to find excuses for them no matter which side of the fence we are on. And I’m sure all of us are capable of getting a little hot-headed and emotional over characters that we are so invested in. That being said, as a Viking-Humper (lol, I thought since we coined the term Bill-Bangers on here before, it was only fair to give myself a good name too) I (like Serena and MAS) would think too that in those first couple of weeks of Jessica being a vampire, it was probably quite difficult to teach her anything. Thinking back she was very recalcitrant (sp?) those first few weeks and has since calmed down quite a bit. Perhaps she didn’t really take to any lessons as much then as she would have once she started becoming a little more mature. I also do think that ultimate responsiblity for a vampire’s actions fall first on that vampire and secondly on that vampire’s maker, especially in the case of a newbie vamp. Just my take on the action. 😀

        PS I appreciate that you posted here even though you are clearly a minority, lol, and hope that you’ll feel free to chip in opinions in the future. I get quite annoyed at people that post just wanting to start a fight here, but when someone has a viable opinion and states it in a reasonable way, I love to see some different blood around here myself and it can inspire great debates as long as every can maintain some reasonableness, lol, which I think most all of the ladies (and gents) here are more than capable of doing since I think that SVB has some of the most intelligent and creative people around here. Sometimes I feel smarter just by being here, lol. 😛 JMO.

        • June 10, 2010 at 11:36 pm

          PS I appreciate that you posted here even though you are clearly a minority, lol, and hope that you’ll feel free to chip in opinions in the future. I get quite annoyed at people that post just wanting to start a fight here, but when someone has a viable opinion and states it in a reasonable way, I love to see some different blood around here myself, and it can inspire great debates as long as every can maintain some reasonableness.

          I agree.

          • 357 CarolB
            June 11, 2010 at 12:57 pm

            Just got to add my thoughts on this too – that’s precisely why I plunged in and started joining in on this blog, although the majority of us are rooting for BE and can appreciate AS, this blog is a hell of a lot more than just that. The depth of interpreting the books and show is second to none, the fangirling is only to be expected (I include myself in this happy past-time!), but a clear line is drawn (unlike other sites) where none of the actors’ personal lives are discussed/pics shown on here – I can’t stand that personally. So,yeah, I don’t post anywhere else coz I’ve found nowhere else where there is as much knowledge, thoughtfulness and respect as there is HERE!
            And for the record, although I love all things Eric, the 2 males who owned Season 2 for me were Jason (his “heaven” line!) and Andy (who nailed dancing “like an epileptic on meth”! and “It was a bull…wearing a dress!”). I hope their fantastic twosome carries on in Season 3. Oh yeah and MORE PAM!
            Long may SVB reign!

            • June 11, 2010 at 1:22 pm

              Aw Carol I’ve got major warm and fuzzies!

              When I started this blog I just wanted to have a place where I could obsess over the books and True Blood. Some days, I want that to be on an intellectual level…and other days I just want to drool over lady porn and have a good laugh. I just wanted this blog to be a mix of both.

              It blows me away every day that so many people were looking for exactly the same thing.

              I don’t care if this blog is perceived as biased. This is not world politics we’re discussing here. I like what I like, and there’s no doubt about what that is 😉 And it seems that there are alot of people who like that too.

              It’s awesome fun, it’s never nasty here even though there are so many of us now, and as long as it stays that way this blog will thrive.

              x

              • 359 CarolB
                June 11, 2010 at 6:27 pm

                More than happy to provide you with some warm and fuzzies SVB! Enjoy them – you deserve them SO much! It’s a truly amazing feat these days to come across a blog like this where everyone respects the other posters’ opinions and it sure is GREAT to know there are so many of us like-minded/obsessed folk out there! 😀

                • 360 VampirePamsGirl
                  June 13, 2010 at 6:35 am

                  Haha Carol, that is another of my favorite things on this blog. There are others like me out there, lol.

                  Also I love that you brought up the Andy and Jason being stars stuff. Though I’ll always be first and foremost a Viking girl, one of the things I’m looking forward to the most in Season 3 is the Jason/Andy being partners thing.

            • June 11, 2010 at 1:29 pm

              Oh! And Jason’s heaven was inside your wife line is hands down my favourite season 2 line 🙂

    • 362 Angie
      June 12, 2010 at 10:10 pm

      Also Eric needs to be punished for what he did to Bill at the Tribunal um ok.

      What?! That was actually the first scene I ever saw Eric in, and I actually thought he was pretty awesome for sticking up for Bill as much as he did. Considering how bloodthirsty and mean the others vamps were, I thought Eric came off really well. lol

  21. 363 LydiaB
    June 10, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    There is a feature story on the Daily Beast about TB, which describes this scene

    “Forty-five minutes north of Los Angeles, a desolate ranch is the setting for a deadly encounter. Vampires descend from the sky onto Sookie Stackhouse’s trademark yellow 1982 Honda and, as Sookie lets out a spine-tingling scream, one bloodsucker places his palm down on the hood of the car, sending its body flipping upward before it comes crashing back down.”

    Eric, Bill and Russell all seem to be involved. I’m pretty sure this is somewhere in episode 10 or 11, since the writer of the story went to the set last week.

    • 364 legalease
      June 10, 2010 at 6:25 pm

      I was just reading that article and I’m so intrigued about that scene. Is it some kind of epic vamp battle? Also, the author says it’s “the Witching Hour” on TB which could mean that the witches have finally made their appearance. Will one or more people be cursed as a result of this?

      Denis O’Hare also had this to say about his character:

      “He feels like human beings are not qualified to run things because they’re destroying their habitat,” said O’Hare of the 2,800-year-old Russell, kicking back on the True Blood set. “He has this weird eco-warrior bent… Russell is really, really strong and really, really crafty and really, really blind. He doesn’t see certain things coming.”

      If the shadow government is corporate America, I think that Russell is an eco-terrorist and the shadow government is trying to stop him before he completely destroys what they are building and profiting from with the humans. I hope that Eric is one of those things that he doesn’t see coming!

      • 365 MASpencer
        June 10, 2010 at 6:42 pm

        Well THAT’S inneresting. Russell Edgington: ECO-TERRORIST???

        Wouldn’t have seen it coming. BUT I KIND OF LIKE. And it makes it more fitting that he may actually have been a werewolf before he was turned– being all connected to nature and whatnot. Also raises interesting points about hypocrisy– a man who’s willing to fight for the Earth, but will also participate in mass genocide. It’s like so-called PRO-lifers who MURDER abortion doctors. Makes NO kinda sense.

        OR it could just be really cheesy… so I’m also a little worried. LOL.

      • 368 sunnynala
        June 10, 2010 at 7:16 pm

        Hmmmmmmmmmmmm….

        What if the ‘shadow gov’t’ is the US GOVERMNMENT and/or the human “One World Government” or the “New World Order”??? What if they have known about vampires all this time and USE them for their own purposes?? (do NOT believe in this NWO shit, just sayin’..it’s out there on the internets if you want to google it up)

        Bloodsuckers indeed!!

        Just like some conspiracy theorists (NOT ME I want to make that clear LOL) claim the US gov’t knows about aliens and are hiding their existence until the time is right to reveal them for one nefarious purpose or another, which would be analogous to the Great Revelation??

        Omg, i just got SO excited, lol.

        • 369 MASpencer
          June 10, 2010 at 7:36 pm

          I think that’s probably right, Sunny. I would imagine that their existence has been a matter of Top Secret knowledge for some time now. And “coming out of the coffin” was a strategic move on the part of the vampires, about which governments were probably warned ahead of time.

          At least, that’s how I would write the mythology in this world. It only makes sense.

        • June 10, 2010 at 10:47 pm

          ROTFL! I don’t know if this is where the plot is going, but I’m that before the series is over, we’re going to have a news report about the Illuminati and vampire conspiracy theories!

      • 371 MASpencer
        June 10, 2010 at 8:30 pm

        By the way… the “Witching Hour” reference is the most UNsubtle giveaway I could possibly imagine.

        The witches are definitely showing up this year. AND I CAN’T WAIT.

        • 372 Mary22
          June 10, 2010 at 11:55 pm

          hrm, witching hour is just a term for midnight i thought…not sure id read into that tooo much but who knows 🙂

      • 373 MASpencer
        June 10, 2010 at 11:41 pm

        A thought I had: When Sophie-Anne is talking about Ludis, she mentions that his blood has to be tasted to be believed, much like people tasted before the Industrial Revolution polluted everything.

        Could this be a hint that she shares Russell’s supposed opinions about humans’ destruction of the environment… at least insofar as it’s ruined her food supply?

        Maybe not. But I figured I’d mention it.

  22. 374 Obla
    June 10, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    Man, these clips are KILLING me! Sunday cannot come fast enough… Just discovered this site… thank you thank you thank you… Tired of all the Bill lovers on the other sites. Glad to find some like-minded individuals over here. Bill’s okay and all, but come on, there is no comparison to Eric! Bill’s like having a cup of lukewarm, watery tea on a hot night when it’s a tall, cold mudslide that will really quench your thirst…. 🙂

  23. 375 Mony
    June 10, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    I think that this scene is after the sex scene qith Yvetta….
    Eric said that Mr Rouben told him that his job were done! I guess Mr Roube was outside the rest waiting the evening to end and then take Bill to Eric…but we all know that Bill’s missing is inaxpected…
    So that’s why Eric said “You’ve said DONE”…
    When Sookie arrives Eric was sure to have Bill…it’s dipends if he was just a Sceriff’s order or an alternative kidnapping by Eric….
    And maybe if he thought to have Bill he lied to Sookie when she accused him….we have to wait to see the contest and the dynamics of the plot to tell.

  24. 376 Aposmeal
    June 10, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    In the wolf video Bill again says “I fed” Alan Ball had made this a Bill signature statement. Even Bill’s minisode refers to his eating habits.None of the other vamp’s dialogue have such attention on feeding.. IMO AB is trying to tell us something about Bill and his claim to not feed from humans.

    • 377 sunnynala
      June 10, 2010 at 6:43 pm

      And I think he ‘fed’ on poor old Olivia. Wonder if he’ll kill her or if we’ll get a signature TB Bill scene: “Mayum, would you mind very much if I sucked your blood?”

    • 378 pennydreadful
      June 10, 2010 at 6:49 pm

      We never learned the identity of the human he fed on after his little encounter with the Sun (although it is suspected that it was Lafayette.) I’ve long suspected that Bill’s True Blood only diet with a nightly Sookie snack is largely a sham.

  25. 379 Feather
    June 10, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    so the necklace with the ring comes into play sometime after the DoD humpfest….

    • 380 LydiaB
      June 10, 2010 at 8:17 pm

      Are we sure that ring is the “heriloom” in the episode descriptions? And not like some viking helmet he finds one day cleaning the attic? lol

      • 381 legalease
        June 10, 2010 at 8:26 pm

        OMG, that would be hilarious! We catch a glimpse of Eric’s attic and there’s like tons of U-Haul boxes with Viking helmets, battle axes and broad swords collecting dust. Seriously though, I think the ring speculation came from an AS interview, but I can’t remember which one. There’s been so much in the last few days that it’s all blurring together in my brain.

        • 382 LydiaB
          June 10, 2010 at 8:29 pm

          I do wonder if we’ll ever get to see Eric’s house on the show though.

          In my mind TB!Eric lives in a subdivision and participates in block parties.

      • 383 Feather
        June 10, 2010 at 8:28 pm

        i’m thinking maybe, since in the other clip he’s wearing it. doesn’t he find it in like, episode 3? i’m getting overloaded with information here, lol

        • 384 LydiaB
          June 10, 2010 at 8:30 pm

          episode 5, finding the heirloom, whatever it is, triggers the flashback to the scene with his family (I’m assuming)

          • 385 MASpencer
            June 10, 2010 at 8:47 pm

            Yeah, but is that when he FINDS the heirloom and when his memory returns… or are we going to get a scene in which he just LOOKS at the ring he’s been wearing since the season started (assuming that’s what the “heirloom” is) and we as the AUDIENCE are finally clued into his motivations for doing whatever he’s doing?

            In other words, we viewers might not know what Eric’s motivations are in early episodes, but HE does. We just won’t find out the whole story until episode 5. (Kind of like in season 2 when he was “oddly intense” about Godric’s disappearance. And then we find out later– in episode 5, in fact– that Godric was his maker.)

            • 386 legalease
              June 10, 2010 at 8:57 pm

              Yep, I think your scenario is how it will happen. As part of that Daily Beast story,they have snippets about the main characters for the season. AS says that it appears early on that Eric just hates weres because weres are dirty and disgusting, but we will later learn of a deeper reason for the hatred. Sounds like Episode 5 to me! Yet another season when we get a critical bit about Eric revealed through flashback.

              Plus, I know it’s been a thousand years and all, but it’s really hard for me to believe that Eric just forgot about the slaughter of his family.

              • 387 MASpencer
                June 10, 2010 at 9:01 pm

                I know, right? LOL.

                Eric didn’t forget jack. He’s been READY for this moment his whole undead life I suspect…

                • June 11, 2010 at 2:29 am

                  so now the wording of who eric is getting revenge for has changed, from “people he cared about” to “a person he cared about” ….

            • 389 sunnynala
              June 10, 2010 at 9:02 pm

              I bet Godric left it to him.

              • 390 MASpencer
                June 10, 2010 at 9:08 pm

                Ooooh, I like that, Sunny! Maybe he passed it off before Sookie showed up on the rooftop as if to say “now go and do what you need to do.”

                It puts Eric’s anquish into even firmer context, too. Here he lost one parent unprecipitously… and now he’s losing another.

        • 391 legalease
          June 10, 2010 at 8:51 pm

          The E/S clip is either from the first or second episode, so he must find it pretty early in the season since he’s wearing it in all of the other pics and promos that have been released.

          • 392 sunnynala
            June 12, 2010 at 11:14 am

            Hmm. First, Sookie discovers Bill missing at the restaurant, calls the cops, deals with them etc etc. Then she goes home to BT, looks for Bill at his house, goes home and Tara finds her, they have a fight etc etc.

            Apparently, we won’t see anything of Eric (in the DOD with Yvette) until the end of ep 1, beginning of ep 2?

            I’m not liking this!

            • 393 legalease
              June 12, 2010 at 3:22 pm

              I think the DOD scene is one of the earlier scenes in the first episode. One of the reviews said that we’d see three naked male cast members within the first 20 minutes (Eric, Bill, Sam). Also, one of the posters over at IMDB has seen the premiere and he said that Eric is mostly in the first half of the episode. The Magister and QSA are listed as appearing in this episode, so I think we’ll get at least 3 Eric Scenes: DOD, the Pam/Eric scene from the clip that was released, and the Magister and QSA with Eric at Fangtasia. I’m not sure if we’ll get any more, but everything that I’ve read indicates that we’ll get more of him (in every sense!) than we got in the Season 2 premiere.

            • June 12, 2010 at 4:09 pm

              no, his scene is supposedly within the first 10 minutes, according to last week’s EW. which was kind of funny, since it mentions “eric with no pants” and then ” you’ve probably stopped reading this article right there”.

              and those superspoilers that just got released verify this.

              • 395 VikingLover
                June 12, 2010 at 4:19 pm

                {“eric with no pants” and then ” you’ve probably stopped reading this article right there”.}

                Hahahahaha! That’s funny! 🙂

                You know while I am looking forward to the Season premiere because I can’t wait to have Eric on my TV again (*fangirling!*) I’m actually more anxious to see the scene starting from E/S in Fangtasia (where he says her life is valuable) forward.

                • June 12, 2010 at 4:33 pm

                  you know how quiet it can be in those big bookstores when everyone is just reading?

                  yeaaaaaah, it was super quiet, and then i read that snippet about no pants and started to laugh. and then i could just feel myself turning red, hehehe

  26. 397 Katya
    June 10, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    An almost 10 second awkward pause atleast!

    That E/S scene took my breath away!

  27. 398 Freyja
    June 10, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    Finally found that promo that Dee was talking about 😉 Not so much new, but sexy little wave from Eric to Lafayette, and him saying to L “Don’t let me wait too long”

    Promo name on youtube: True Blood Season 3: Do Bad Things Promo

    • 399 LydiaB
      June 10, 2010 at 8:32 pm

      thank you! I love that Eric loves freaking out Lafayette.

      • 400 Freyja
        June 10, 2010 at 8:34 pm

        Yes I love that too 😀 The exchanges I love most in TB is Eric/Lafayette, Eric/Sookie, Eric/Pam and Eric/Bill, always cracks me up 😉 Well just everything Eric apparantly.

        • 401 legalease
          June 10, 2010 at 8:53 pm

          There seems to be a common connection there, but I’m not sure what it is – lol! Those are also some of my favorite pairings and I think it’s safe to say that Eric makes everything (and everyone) better!

        • June 10, 2010 at 11:19 pm

          And people say that TB Eric has no sense of humor! TB Eric has a sense of humor fit for a BA vampire sheriff. Sookie just hasn’t tuned into it, yet.

          I’m sorry to dis Book Eric, but I always find his humor so…unsophisticated. His princess Sookie speech reminded me of my geeky friends in HS who played D&D. The only thing that was missing was obsequious hand kiss.

          • 403 Freyja
            June 10, 2010 at 11:23 pm

            I loved that from the book 😉 And all the other exchanges in the books between S/E. But TB Eric has a sharper/meaner sense of humor and I love it too 🙂

          • June 10, 2010 at 11:34 pm

            Princess speech? The DTTW “I will bring you to my side” one?

            Aw c’mon Renee, you know you would’ve said yes 😛

            Book Eric’s sense of humour is certainly different to TB Eric. But I think what people find so attractive about BE is not so much his sense of humour, but his charm. He has charm in spades and TB Eric has very little that we’ve seen so far.

            • 405 LLE
              June 10, 2010 at 11:45 pm

              I doubt Eric had charm when he not around Sookie. Eric was very ice cold when he not around Sookie in the books.

              • 406 Freyja
                June 10, 2010 at 11:47 pm

                Yes that he was. Sookie was the one that brought that humor out of him. Hopefully TB Eric will start to bond more to Sookie now and be more playful 😉

            • June 10, 2010 at 11:52 pm

              Oh no! That speech was sincere and breathtaking. I was referring to his apology after the maenad attack.

              Don’t get me wrong. I love book Eric, and how this 1,000 vampire can be goofy sometimes. It’s just people are always complaining about missing BE’s sense of humor. I prefer the wry sense of humor TB Eric displays.

              • 409 LLE
                June 11, 2010 at 12:06 am

                After the maenad attack, Eric’s apology was not series. If Sookie had not say anything, Eric would not said those words. Eric was humor her and that was not real apology at all.

                • 410 Robin
                  June 11, 2010 at 2:40 am

                  Yes, he was totally teasing her at that point. It also loved that he winked at her just before she passed out.

              • 414 Gigi
                June 11, 2010 at 2:50 am

                Ohh, you meant the “angelic vision” blah blah speech!! Well it was incredibly cheesy LMAO, but the point of it and the humor were in the irony and the moment when she “demanded” a better apology…

            • 415 Robin
              June 11, 2010 at 2:37 am

              [But I think what people find so attractive about BE is not so much his sense of humour, but his charm. He has charm in spades]

              THIS. I think this is why I find myself so personally invested in Eric of SVM as a character, and really it is BOTH his sense of humor and charm. CH has written his character in such a way that I am way more invested in him than our protagonist, Sookie.

          • June 10, 2010 at 11:49 pm

            That’s one of my favorite quotes and I don’t think it’s geeky or unsophisticated because his says it with complete irony. He’s not serious when he says that not one wit. He’s teasing her because she’s being so bitchy as she’s laying there in pain.

          • 417 VampirePamsGirl
            June 11, 2010 at 1:59 am

            “I’m sorry to dis Book Eric, but I always find his humor so…unsophisticated. His princess Sookie speech reminded me of my geeky friends in HS who played D&D. The only thing that was missing was obsequious hand kiss.”

            Lol, Renee. I think that kind of stuff only adds to his charm for me. But of course I’m kind of a geek myself and I pretty much love geeks, lol. Oh, and I just had such a nice vision of Eric/ASkars wearing glasses and suspenders playing D&D…it does nothing to suppress my urge to screw his brains out. ;P

            • June 11, 2010 at 2:20 am

              In my day, I could appreciate a D&D playing nerd as much as the next girl, and I must admit to enjoying the flowery language and hand kissing. I think the problem for me is that I identify that level of humor with high school. I want more from a thousand year old Viking. Luckily ASkars can give it to me. ; )

    • 419 Feather
      June 10, 2010 at 8:38 pm

      excellent, many thanks 🙂

    • 420 Mony
      June 10, 2010 at 9:20 pm

      what’s the song?anyone knows?

  28. 421 Freyja
    June 10, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    Found this on Askar’s Swedish Meatballs:
    “The Eric and Pam relationship grows this season and you get to know them better as a couple. It’s been great to take that to a different level. He’s always kind of stern and hard and like, ‘Get out of my way, Pam.’ But you’ll see a different side this season as well. There’s a very, very strong connection between the two of them, with a strong loyalty and lots of affection.”
    -Alexander Skarsgaard

    I like this!!!

    • 422 Mony
      June 10, 2010 at 9:21 pm

      i totally love it!!!!!
      that sounds sooooo good!!!!!!!
      I adore Pam & Eric…and i’m pretty sure that he’s gonna take the all fault for the V.

      • 423 Freyja
        June 10, 2010 at 9:24 pm

        Yes I think so too, he protects her at all cost, she’s his child. That’s probably why he has the will made in epi. 10.

    • 424 VampirePamsGirl
      June 10, 2010 at 11:35 pm

      That sounds wonderful. I was just thinking after watching these clips here that I’m not sure that I even care a whole lot about the Eric/Sookie thing anymore, which is pretty surprising since I’m definintely a die-hard ES-Shipper and I will still flip my shit if the books don’t end like that. But on the show I’d be quite happy as long as they put about 20 to 30 minutes of Eric and Pam in every episode, preferably together (though not as a couple!). The clip of them two was defniitely my favorite out of the lot. I may change my mind later after actually getting to see some full episodes but with what we’ve got so far, I’m just not feeling Sookie and I’d rather watch Eric and Pam anyday.

  29. 425 LLE
    June 10, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Eric is sheriff and he is the boss in the area that Bill lives. If Eric wants to talked to Bill, Eric will send someone to pick him up for questions. Bill knows that he would have to go and talk to Eric to live in that area. Sookie would be mad at Eric and think he was a monster not understand that they are all in danger. Bill was very stupid telling Eric about him selling vampire blood.

    If Eric was planning on harming Bill, Eric would do it himself instead calling another vampire to bring Bill.

    • 426 Aposmeal
      June 10, 2010 at 10:22 pm

      In the real world human Sheriffs send a deputy to bring in someone for questioning. I would imagine it is the same in Vamp world

      • 427 MASpencer
        June 10, 2010 at 10:52 pm

        I started warming to this notion. But no matter how you spin it, it still doesn’t hold up, since technically, there’s no QUESTIONING of an official nature involved.

        On the contrary, Eric’s plan presumably involved intimidating Bill to keep his mouth shut with respect to a CRIME that has been committed– which isn’t exactly acting in his role as a sheriff. It’s more like–well, EXACTLY like– something a mafia boss would do. Which may be exactly what a “sheriff” is in the vampire world… but we can’t pretend like it’s noble. Because it’s NOT.

        Perhaps he only intended to sit Bill in a conference room with refreshments and show him the “Stop Snitching” video? LOL.

        • 428 Janofarc/hamsterbaby
          June 10, 2010 at 10:55 pm

          Perhaps Reuben was sent to measure him up for his concrete boots?

        • 429 Dee
          June 10, 2010 at 11:09 pm

          Definitely not noble where he wanted to bring him in and say Please Bill don’t tell on me. I think he was planning on scaring him, the only thing is I don’t think he would’ve kept him captive. At least my opinion, I might be proven wrong on Sunday. I think Eric is very worried about Bill knowing and wanted to make sure Bill doesn’t go around opening his mouth. I’m curious who this Mr. Reuben is.

          • 430 LLE
            June 10, 2010 at 11:25 pm

            Bill did say he keep quite if Eric stay way from Sookie. Bill really did not care that Eric was selling vampire blood. If Bill really care, Bill would had turn Eric in for selling vampire blood.

        • 431 LLE
          June 10, 2010 at 11:22 pm

          Bill would had to make a choice does he want to live or does he want to die. Bill was very stupid to tell Eric that he knows about the selling vampire blood. Bill was trying to blackmailed Eric to stay way from Sookie. Bill did not care what Eric was doing all he care about about loosing Sookie to Eric.

          We really don’t know why Eric agree of selling vampire blood? Maybe, Eric is going undercover or he just following his crazy Queen’s order.

        • 432 VikingLover
          June 10, 2010 at 11:41 pm

          {On the contrary, Eric’s plan presumably involved intimidating Bill to keep his mouth shut with respect to a CRIME that has been committed– which isn’t exactly acting in his role as a sheriff. }

          Exactly. A crime that Eric is being forced to committ by his boss and for which he will be put to death if it is discovered. Let’s not forget that Eric was very much a Sheriff before this – he was enforcing this law before – hence the capture and imprisonment of Lafayette. Now he is being forced to do the exact opposite of this. This is really the point to all of this. Even Lafayette has a hard time wrapping his head around it. lol

          In any case, let’s be real here, Eric is not trying to stop Bill from filing a report to the proper authorities because Bill feels that what Eric is doing is wrong and is a crime. Bill doesn’t give two shits that Eric is selling V – he only gives a shit because he can use it against him to keep him away from Sookie. He THREATENED Eric. Yes, what Eric was going to do was definitely not noble but he’s doing what he has to do to survive. And on top of all of that, QSA ORDERED Eric to make sure that Bill kept his mouth shut. And I highly doubt she meant for him to ask nicely. lol Anyhoo, I understand what you’re saying for sure but let’s not forget that Bill wasn’t acting like the hall monitor. He was trying to use muscle against Eric as well. To be honest, Bill was f****ing crazy to threaten Eric. If Bill didn’t feel he had an “in” with the Queen, he NEVER would have threatened Eric to begin with. The fact that he felt comfortable doing that says a lot. Meanwhile the Queen is playing them both!

          • 433 MASpencer
            June 11, 2010 at 12:13 am

            I couldn’t agree more. When Bill was all “I’m gonna tell on you!” in the season two finale, I wanted to kick him in the nuts FOR Eric. LOL.

            • 434 VikingLover
              June 11, 2010 at 12:22 am

              LOL But not even for Eric but for himself. What the hell was Bill thinking!!! He knows that a vamp selling V is a BIG freaking deal and yet he threatens to use the knowledge against that person? Dude has a death wish! 🙂

  30. 435 EricObsessed
    June 10, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    So this whole post has doubled in comments in the past couple hours and I read through earlier but haven’t gone back since, SO I don’t know if it was mentioned before but did anyone comment on the Sookie and Jessica preview?
    If Sookie was talking to Pam and she “shivered and said Eric was calling her” (comparing it to Jessica feeling Bill being kidnapped) what was happening to Eric!?

    • 436 legalease
      June 10, 2010 at 10:34 pm

      I don’t know – I wondered about that as well. Perhaps it’s when the Magister and QSA show up at Fangtasia? I think that Pam may be over at Merlotte’s putting the fear of god into Lafayette (again!) when it happens and she gets the call and runs out.

      • 437 Freyja
        June 10, 2010 at 10:53 pm

        I think it was when the Magister and QSA came to Fangtasia. You can see that Sookie wears the same shirt in that clip with Jessica and then again with Eric (and Eric is wearing the same clothes when Magister and QSA showed up).

        • 438 ESFAN08
          June 10, 2010 at 11:58 pm

          I got the impression that Eric was calling to Pam not necessarily that Eric was introuble at the time. I remember reading something not to long ago about Bill trying to call for Jessica to see if she could track him down, only she doesn’t understand what she’s feeling cuz Bill never showed her how it feels when he calls to her. I have to say if this Scene takes place after Eric talks to Sookie about not underestimating herself an all that Eric’s proved his point lol. Sookie giving the keys to Jessica so she can track where she felt Bill’s call coming from, an going off on their own to investigate was exactly what Eric was talking about. If i had to guess this Scene happens after Sookie leaves Fangtasia, an maybe Eric sends Pam back with her so Sookie’s not by herself, or sends Pam to Merlotte’s to give Lafayette more V, or pick up the Money he made off it. Then maybe thats when Nan Flannagan shows up an thats why he calls Pam back, but i guess it could be when the Queen an the Magister first shows up that he calls to Pam. Also i dont think Eric had much choice about part taking in the selling of V when SA ordered him to. Eric may be older an stronger, but shes his Queen he cant disobey her even if shes doing something illegal. I totally get what AS meant when he said Eric wants to be loyal, an do his duty, but it being complicated when he’s dealing with a crazy Queen lol. I mean no wonder he’s so stressed out poor Guy lol.

        • 439 EricObsessed
          June 11, 2010 at 12:00 am

          Yes, I guess that makes sense. I was afraid he’d be hurt or in danger that would “call” Pam to him, but I suppose if the magister and the queen show up that could be enough. However, that could eventually wind up putting Pam in danger from what we’ve seen of her tied up. Now I’m worried instead of excited (well, maybe both)!

          This is a lot of stuff for just a couple episodes. I have a feeling I’ll be watching the new episodes every day during the week just to get all the story.

  31. 440 LydiaB
    June 10, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    QSA sounds like a mess. Lady’s gonna do down in a blaze, isn’t she?

    “The audience will learn why she’s behind the V-trade. “She’s very unreliable, unpredictable, and a little crazy,” said Skarsgård of the Queen of Louisiana. “Eric wants to be a loyal subject and do his duty. But it’s complicated when your boss is losing it.” “

    • 441 legalease
      June 10, 2010 at 10:39 pm

      Yes, and I bet her whole obsession with daywalking will tie into this. I can understand why Eric is afraid of her because of the craziness and lack of reliability. For a pragmatic guy like Eric, her unpredictability has to make him more than just a little nervous.

  32. 442 Dee
    June 10, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    Serena-The Promo I saw is finally on youtube, it is no longer for my viewing pleasure only damn lol…Jussinique put it up, and it says true blood season 3: do bad things promo. I won’t link obviously.

    • 443 Freyja
      June 10, 2010 at 10:57 pm

      Yebb I already announced it above, to let you know that you are not crazy! 😉

    • 444 Serena
      June 10, 2010 at 10:58 pm

      I saw it Dee, I should have commented earlier, it looks like you won’t be getting your own section then, LOL. I hafta say, I think I hyped it in my own head that I was kinda disappointed with it, but that is after we saw pics/vid with Eric in the red robe too. The Laffy/Eric scene was cute tho, I really hope he doesn’t give him the car, just lets him drive it..

      • 445 Mony
        June 10, 2010 at 11:10 pm

        fro the summary of ep 3.03 Eric left a gift to lafayette…who know…i guess it’s thecar while he is in jackson…not properly a gift at all….but maybe he can drive it while Eric is out of Shereveport…..
        I’m start to think that Eric will make Lafayette his Bobby in the books…..

        • 446 Lotus
          June 11, 2010 at 10:38 am

          Wasn’t there a spoiler about Laffy having his car stripped and being beaten up by someone in Hotshot? Everything is getting confused in my head, so I could be wrong, but I’m almost positive I saw that somewhere.

          • June 11, 2010 at 10:41 am

            Yep there was.

            I think it’s a fair bet that Eric is giving Laf that red car.

            • 448 Lotus
              June 11, 2010 at 11:39 am

              Agreed. And what a shame that soon after it will be relieved of all its beautiful parts, lol.

              • June 11, 2010 at 11:59 am

                I’m thinking the red car will be the replacement for that yellowish convertible that Laf has now (which will get stripped) when Laf finds himself without wheels.

                Eric likes to give practical gifts, after all 😉

                • June 11, 2010 at 12:13 pm

                  do i dare to hope that this isn’t AB attempt to gift Laffy the ‘good deed’ Eric should be doing to Sookie (the gift of a driveway).

                  • June 11, 2010 at 12:18 pm

                    I have all but given up on the driveway.

                    I’ll eat my shorts if that happens *snort*

                    • 452 millarca21
                      June 11, 2010 at 12:24 pm

                      The driveway’s still possible, isn’t it? He hasn’t driven up it yet in the series, as opposed to all these hundreds of sneak peeks, which I am beginning to find extremely confusing. *crosses fingers and hopes for new driveway*

                    • June 11, 2010 at 12:45 pm

                      I’m putting the driveway in the same category as amnesia Eric, and the shower scene.

                      I just know none of these things are going to give me any satisfaction.

                    • 454 Lotus
                      June 11, 2010 at 12:51 pm

                      I would even settle for him getting her house painted or something equally thoughtful, though the driveway would be a nice touch considering Sookie mentioned it in front of Eric in Season 2.

                    • 455 Kathy
                      June 11, 2010 at 1:15 pm

                      *sigh* x 2

                    • 456 VikingLover
                      June 11, 2010 at 4:19 pm

                      I don’t think they would have had Sookie make mention of the driveway in dialogue (in front of Eric) if it wasn’t going to happen. I personally think it will happen (as well as her house being cleaned) but maybe not in S3 since there is a lot going on and everyone seems to be under siege. It could very well happen in S4 – after he recovers from this amnesia.

                    • June 11, 2010 at 4:25 pm

                      Hmmm…I’m seeing AE doing a lot of manual labor around the Stackhouse place. I agree that with the mention of the driveway in front of Eric, it’s on the way. My only quesiton is will it be a thank you for saving Eric’s ass with SA in s3 or for saving his ass from SA/Hallow in s4.

                    • 458 VikingLover
                      June 11, 2010 at 4:45 pm

                      {My only quesiton is will it be a thank you for saving Eric’s ass with SA in s3 or for saving his ass from SA/Hallow in s4.}

                      Yeah, this is what I’m wondering to since it seems there will be nonstop action until the very last episode. I’m wondering if they’ll even get a breather during the end of the season or if it will be action then cliffhanger leading into S4. I guess we’ll see. 🙂

                    • 459 Gigi
                      June 11, 2010 at 5:30 pm

                      [I have all but given up on the driveway.
                      I’ll eat my shorts if that happens *snort*]
                      RFLMAO!!!

                      Amnesia Eric, the driveway and the shower scene are right now lost somewhere in the Twilight Zone… And being there, we will never know for sure if they will happen or actually how they will happen (if any one of them were really going to happen…)

                      (yeah, I know it sounded like a tongue twister LOL 😛 )

                      But given the fact Sookie made the reference of the driveway in front of Eric, I think there is a high possibility for it to happen… (finger cross)

                    • 460 legalease
                      June 12, 2010 at 4:34 pm

                      Well, there is the spoiler about Eric giving Sookie more money than he promised her for her work in Dallas, setting a precedent of him being generous towards her and I, too, am holding out hope because of the scene in “Scratches”.

                      AS said in that Daily Beast article that Eric is trying a different strategy with Laffy this season — “the carrot and the stick”. Maybe giving gifts, or paying tribute, will make him less of a reluctant henchman.

                    • 461 VikingLover
                      June 12, 2010 at 4:42 pm

                      {Well, there is the spoiler about Eric giving Sookie more money than he promised her for her work in Dallas, setting a precedent of him being generous towards her}

                      Really?? Tell me everything! Which ep is this in? This made my heart beat faster! 🙂

                    • 462 LLE
                      June 12, 2010 at 4:46 pm

                      Sookie can pay her own driveway with the money Eric gave her for her services in Dallas. Right now the new driveway does not mean anything because she has to go find Bill.

                      The reason Eric pay the driveway because owe her big time in Dallas and she save his butt with the Queen. Instead of paying her with cash he did it with a new driveway.

                    • June 12, 2010 at 5:00 pm

                      VL-

                      the first 2 episode synopsis, i believe, contain that info. I think SVB posted it on FB instead of here, since it does give away a lot. I also saw it through Mony’s True Blood Italia twitter.

                • 464 Lotus
                  June 11, 2010 at 12:52 pm

                  Oh, good call, SVB. I like that idea.

            • 465 legalease
              June 12, 2010 at 5:03 pm

              VL — it’s from a fan who got to go to the premiere and see the first two episodes. She runs the AS fan blog. The link to the spoilers is posted on the SVB FB page. I think she may have taken the spoiler post down, though, because she didn’t want to get into trouble with HBO. I hate it because she was going to post a lot more spoilers and I really wanted to get a description of the Nazi flashback in Episode 2.

              Anyhoo, I believe this scene is in the first episode when Pam comes to Sookie’s home with the payment. This is also Pam gets a “call” from Eric and Sookie learns that makers can call out to their children.

              • 466 legalease
                June 12, 2010 at 5:06 pm

                Or, what Feather said, LOL!

              • 467 legalease
                June 12, 2010 at 5:10 pm

                Also, if it’s bad form to discuss on the blog a spoiler that’s not from an “official source” like a promo, media article, or episode description, please let me know. I don’t want to get anyone into trouble!

              • 468 VikingLover
                June 12, 2010 at 5:22 pm

                Thank you Feather and Legalease!!! I’m tingling all over! OMG! Now I can’t wait for ep 1!! I was saying earlier that I was kind of looking forward more to ep 2 but now I’m dying for ep 1 again! lol

                Legalease, nah it’s okay as long as you let us all know that it may not be official. The only spoilers we did not want discussed here was one that was posted in relation to the MA spoiler. That was leaked without the consent of the person who viewed the first 2 eps and his/her pleas to pull it down (on another site) were ignored. In any case, anything else is A-OK. 🙂

                Oh man, I am soooo looking forward to seeing a scene between Pam and Sookie!!! I want to see the develpment of their friendship as well as the E/S romantic relationship.

                • 469 legalease
                  June 12, 2010 at 5:40 pm

                  Ok, thanks for the clarification! I am looking forward to anything and everything that has to do with Pam! I think the Eric/Pam relationship is my favorite one on the show and I hope we see at least a little bonding between her and Sookie. I also find it very interesting that Sookie invites her in but refuses to let Eric in until the werewolf threat. I think she’s a little afraid of what would happen if she granted him entrance! 😉

                  • 470 Freyja
                    June 12, 2010 at 6:13 pm

                    Ok she invites her in and not Eric? Hahaha, yes I believe she doesn’t trust herself with him 😉

                • 471 Freyja
                  June 12, 2010 at 6:12 pm

                  Oh I can’t wait 😀 I love that he gives her more payment for Dallas!!!
                  And I also want to see the development between Pam and Sookie. I so loved their interaction in the books 🙂

      • 472 Dee
        June 10, 2010 at 11:11 pm

        LOL yeah especially not after we seen so many pics and full video of Eric in the robe, that one split second you see in the trailer really doesn’t do anything now haha. It would’ve been different to see it if we hadn’t seen all the other stuff. Nothing else in there really to talk about either because we’ve seen all those other scenes, well the Laf/Eric one was different but that’s about it.

  33. 474 Riz
    June 10, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    In the Daily Beast gallery section, there’s an intriguing bit about Godric from Alan Ball: “We will see Godric twice. Flashbacks are certainly one way we can see him but who knows what can happen.”
    Hmmmm, just what would be the other kind of way to see Godric?? Didn’t Allan Hyde tweet recently something that seemed to imply that we’d see Godric in one of the last episodes of the season? The mind reels with possibilities…

    • 475 Freyja
      June 10, 2010 at 11:35 pm

      In spirit? By magic? hhhmmmm

    • 476 LydiaB
      June 10, 2010 at 11:42 pm

      I thought Allan’s tweet meant that he would be busy filming in the finale episode, but they’re filming that NOW and he had to cancel an appearance a few weeks from now, and surely they’d be done filming by then?

    • June 11, 2010 at 12:23 am

      A friend was able to actually speak with Allan Hyde at the after party for the Premier of S3, and he said that there is two flash backs with him and Eric, and the first one is in the first 2 eps, and the other one is within the later 2 i believe. He couldn’t say anymore then that.

      • 478 legalease
        June 11, 2010 at 1:51 am

        Ah, thanks for clearing that up. I wonder what the 2nd flashback will entail? AS said in one of the premiere interviews that they were currently filming the last two episodes so they may not be finished with filming until close to the end of this month.

      • 479 LydiaB
        June 11, 2010 at 1:54 am

        Intriiiiiiiiiiiiguing. I’m interested in knowing when they parted ways with each other, how Pam fit in to their relationship. I MUST KNOW THESE THINGS.

      • 480 Serena
        June 11, 2010 at 1:55 am

        You know what I was thinkin about this? A little while ago in that 6 man interview Skars said that he went to the writers and made a suggestion and that they were open to it, and I know he likes doing the flashbacks,.. so I wonder if this was his suggestion, and seeing as it would be easy to shoot it out of order and last minute. I dunno, wishful thinking I guess.

    • 481 Lotus
      June 11, 2010 at 1:41 am

      A dream?

  34. 482 Freyja
    June 11, 2010 at 2:01 am

    If you go to skarsgardnews dot com, you can see the interview between Eric and Russell. Very funny 🙂 “It’s good to be the king” 😉

  35. 483 Serena
    June 11, 2010 at 2:32 am

    {Now I’m beginning to wonder if SOPHIE-ANNE will take the place of Hallow.}

    Sorry it was getting too tight up there. This thought occurred to me yesterday that they would combo Hallow, but not with SA but Sandra Pelt. It would give Hallow motive and it would relieve the series from having two crazy were chicks coming after Eric/Sookie. (But in order to do this, they’d have to kill Debbie this season).

    Oh and this other thought occurred to me as well, Debbie in Sookie’s house.. this must be the seen where Debbie supposedly busts in the door with where the wolves almost bit her hand off in real life. So why do they break in Sookie’s door?

    • 484 Dee
      June 11, 2010 at 3:03 am

      Debbie might do it, my guess is either SA or Debbie puts the spell on Eric.

    • 485 MASpencer
      June 11, 2010 at 1:59 pm

      I totally didn’t even notice that you continued the conversation down here… I’ll re-post what I wrote above for ease of discussion, and say that you could totally be right about the Sandra Pelt thing, because I suspect that Debbie might actually bite it this season. But based on this marriage spoiler, I still think it’s going to be Sophie-Anne…

      There’s already been speculation that Russell may have been a werewolf before he was turned– and if that turns out to be true, I’m thinking that it’s almost certain that Sophie-Anne was some kind of supe before becoming a vampire (werewolf, fairy, what have you).

      If she was a werewolf, so much the better– because then I’m almost POSITIVE that True Blood will be combining her character with Hallow, who was a were-witch.

      Anyway, both of them being “mixed” supes would speak to Russell’s desire to unite the entire supernatural community… for the WHOLLY ironic purpose of world domination. So, Hallow and her brother (whose name I can’t remember) will probably become Sophie-Anne and Russell—only they’ve got bigger plans than taking over little old Fangtasia.

      Thus, you’d have Eric spelled with amnesia– which would be convenient to them BOTH (Sophie-Anne because of the V-dealing issue and Russell because of Eric’s ancient vendetta)– and season 4 would revolve around Eric, Pam, and whomever else hatching a plan to get his memory back and take down the burgeoning supernatural fascist regime.

      FURTHERMORE… it COULD be that Sophie-Anne is rounding up the part-fairy contingent (hence her interest in Sookie) because she intends to give them a “pass” in the new regime.

      In other words, they WON’T be exterminated… but every other human WILL. BECAUSE THEY’LL BE BREEDING THE PERFECT TASTING HUMANS.

      Sick AND twisted (just how I like my storylines!) and mirrors the Nazi subplot perfectly.

      • June 11, 2010 at 2:15 pm

        If your theories turn out true, I suspect I’ll like season 4 and AmnesiaEric way more than book 4. 🙂

        • 487 pennydreadful
          June 11, 2010 at 2:25 pm

          Mas- Regardless of whether your speculations pan out…I’m convinced that you should be writing for the show.

          • 488 MASpencer
            June 11, 2010 at 2:56 pm

            LOL! If ONLY, Penny… but even IF in some parallel reality on the space-time continuum I DID have the opportunity to sit in the writer’s room for a day, it would be a disaster. Not least of all because I can’t write decent dialogue to save my life. I really, genuinely just suck at it.

            Anyway, whether the writers go here or not, I’m sure whatever they deliver will be JUST as good or, more likely, WAY BETTER. It’s their job, after all… and Alan Ball didn’t win an Oscar for nothing.

            Meanwhile, I’ll be content to obsessively pick it apart in my free time. Of which I CLEARLY have too much. 😉

  36. 489 Jo
    June 11, 2010 at 2:59 am

    decidedly this not is SVM anymore, I swore to myself not to do more comparisons but can not help it: this is not the Eric that I learned to love, I know in the show has no place for him (do not misunderstand, I still like TB Eric and I’m sure many will appreciate and this season will be a great success) but I miss Eric’s book, as SVB said more charming, more carefree that is changing with the contact with Sookie – stubborn but still fun and non-irritating. I know that SVM is kinda cheezy (not sure if it’s the right word, English is not my first language). But TB Eric just seems: tense, angry, worried or sad, without real humor, just ironic. Has no space for levity in this series. Everyone is very angry, anxious and filled with dramas.
    compared with TB Eric, Eric Book is a lamb. I do not know how they can still think he’s bad just by reading the books. Sorry, as I said I still like both, but they are completely different characters, I do not know how CH can still say that the show has the spirit of the books.

  37. 490 E
    June 11, 2010 at 3:03 am

    After watching the E&S clip for the hundredth time, it occurred to me that Eric had just recently lost Godric so it makes sense that he would extra-fear for Sookie’s life. Perhaps all these recent events have really brought those old human feelings to the surface!

    • 491 VikingLover
      June 11, 2010 at 3:17 am

      I love that scene so much!! I bet you he’d stake Longshadow now. 🙂

      • 492 Freyja
        June 11, 2010 at 3:18 am

        hahaha, oh yes he would 😀 Without hesitation!

      • 493 Lotus
        June 11, 2010 at 10:35 am

        Yes! I bet he would stake LS in a hot second. Also, if our theory pans out that Eric’s family/father was killed by wolves in his human life, he would be extremely cautious of letting Sookie get involved with them. Really loving this portrayal of Eric who doesn’t like to have feelings and who fights to suppress his humanity. It would set up a wonderful contrast for next season and AE who isn’t at all afraid of emotions.

        • 494 VikingLover
          June 11, 2010 at 3:49 pm

          [Really loving this portrayal of Eric who doesn’t like to have feelings and who fights to suppress his humanity.]

          Oh God, me too!! I love him so much! I’m such a fangirl. 🙂 I love his intensity and I also love when he shows vulnerability. It just makes him that much more sexier to me.

          I really hope that AB makes some changes to the AE storyline. I’ll be honest, I’m really not looking forward to having Sookie and Eric share such emotional intimacy (and physical intimacy) when he’s not totally “cognizant”. I would really prefer to see them get closer when he is completely himself. I know that AE IS Eric as well, just an Eric without all of the walls and years of developing into this BAMF Sheriff, but I would still prefer all of this to happen while he still IS the BAMF Sheriff. I think it would be funny to have BAMF Sheriff forced to stay with Sookie (in hiding) and not picking up his towels in the bathroom. lol I loved the books (book 4 is one my of my all time favorites) but while this works for me in the books, I’m not sure that it will work for me on screen. However, I do have hope that they’ll change it up enough so that I’m satisfied with how their development turns out.

          • 495 MASpencer
            June 12, 2010 at 3:54 am

            Bill fights to suppress his vampire urges, Eric fights to suppress his human urges. But neither are successful at denying what’s underneath– nor SHOULD they be.

            It’s an interesting dichotomy when you think about it.

            They’re pretty much mirroring eachother’s experiences on opposite sides of the spectrum… yin and yang. No wonder the “teams” can’t agree on anything. LOL!

            • 496 Lotus
              June 12, 2010 at 4:14 am

              Exactly, MAS. AB has said he likes the idea that nobody is mostly good or bad on TB, but shades of gray.

              Really loving this mirror image of B and E and how the things we try to ignore within ourselves can harm us or get us into bad situations. Being at peace only happens when you can embrace all aspects of the self and acknowledge both the dark and the light. Otherwise, you end up screwing your ex while attempting to demonstrate the physical abilities of owls, or something equally horrendous. 😉

            • 497 MASpencer
              June 12, 2010 at 4:42 am

              LOL!!!

              I think we’ll see the same thing happen with Eric, because he attempted to suppress his humanity– and this season, as represented by his thirst to avenge his human family, the floodgates will open. And it will tear down much of what he has worked to become for the last 1,000 years.

              • 498 legalease
                June 12, 2010 at 3:30 pm

                And his actions may very well result in him temporarily losing through the amnesia everything that he has worked to become for the last 1,000 years.

            • 499 legalease
              June 12, 2010 at 3:41 pm

              That’s such a great way to put it! AB said that the B/S/E triangle plays a major part and I think it will continue to throughout the series in different variations. This dichotomy that you describe gives it so much more depth and substance and takes it beyond the typical soapy love triangle. I think that most of the BL’s and EL’s enjoy seeing this conflict in the characters, but there are extreme Bill fans who only want the southern gentleman and hate any suggestion of vampiric qualities. There are also extreme Eric fans who only want to see the badass vampire and hate any demonstrations of emotions or vulnerability. I think these fans are going to be seriously disappointed.

          • 500 Lotus
            June 12, 2010 at 4:08 am

            I think it would be funny to have BAMF Sheriff forced to stay with Sookie (in hiding) and not picking up his towels in the bathroom.

            My mind went to all kinds of hilarious places when I read this, VL. lol! That would be pretty amusing. Also, I’m hoping that towards the end of this season E/S will seriously bond, and not necessarily in a blood exchange way. I have a feeling they will share a moment or more in the last six episodes that will bring them closer together, perhaps the Talbot staking or something else. It’s going to be a slow build, that’s for certain, so we may as well sit back and enjoy the journey, lol!

          • June 12, 2010 at 6:41 am

            VL, I’m with you on that. I probably am in the minority but I don’t look forward for AE. I enjoyed Book 4 but… not as much as 2 and 3. Sookie and Eric were cute, the shower scene was hot, but still there’s something that disappointed me. In that book there was no Eric for me, but a good puppy that Sookie leaves at home and when she comes back she plays with. I always felt like amnesia was an excuse to show Eric behaving OOC.
            So I would like Eric to be totally himself when he gets closer to Sookie. And then, for the drama’s sake, there should be something that makes the both of them regret what they’ve done.
            And a BAMF Sheriff forced to be stuck in your house would be totally hilarious (and hot).
            Not saying that in season 4 there should be no amnesia Eric at all, only… in a different way.

  38. 502 Chat_Noir
    June 11, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    Regarding Jessica not learning how to feed properly while with Eric and Pam. I’m guessing that a ‘baby vamp’ needs a LOT of care and attention in their first few weeks, care and attention that Eric and Pam would not have been able to give her as Eric has his duties as sheriff of area 5, which are many and complex, as well as his businesses. As Eric’s child and second in command Pam also has a great many responsibilities to take care of, such as dealing with lesser Area 5 matters and also maintining their mutual business interests (as Pam is also Eric’s business partner). Is it not surprising that they wouldn’t be able to devote all the time necessary to teaching and guiding a new vampire, particularly one as willful and liberty-drunk as Jessica? I also agree with everyone who said that they might even have tried to teach her the correct way to behave but in her state of mind at the time she may not have taken it in. Then we have all the time Jessica has spent with Bill since she was returned to him – why did he not take the time to teach her what she needed to know to survive/not kill then? His guidance there seems to be limited to “This is a bottle of true blood. You drink it. Mix two different types for different tastes. Now if you’ll excuse me I have a human to screw and feed from. Don’t bother me again”. He IS a deadbeat dad, no matter how you look at it. He tried to avoid his responsibilities in the first place by offloading Jessica on Pam and Eric and now only does the bare minimum. In a way I am rather glad that his lack of attention to Jessica’s education and forming any kind of genuine bond with her comes back to bite him in the arse when Jessica doesn’t recognise that he is calling to her. Oh Bill, Bill, if only you had taken the time and trouble of being a good maker then you would be out of your present mess a whole lot faster.

    RE: Bill’s Proposal. I think that Bill rushed a proposal to Sookie to maintain his hold on her. Maybe QSA gave him the impression that his mission was reaching an end, and he knows that with that ends his importance to QSA ends too. By being married to Sookie (even under human law) he maintains his importance and cannot be cast aside. By marrying her he not only retains his bedmate and dinner, but it also elevates his importance in the vampire hierarchy. By being married to the Queen’s telepath he stops being a cog in the machinery that is easily replaced and becomes a player in the game. Plus, any financial or material comforts or benefits that come Sookie’s way through her service would no doubt do him very nicely too. The old Compton place certainly could do with an overhaul, which would cost a fair bit of money… Or, better yet, a set of apartments at the Royal Complex would be pretty nice to have, too…

    Finally, I have to say that I had another heart melting moment at the clip showing Eric and Sookie, where Eric says to her not to underestimate herself. What a contrast to Bill’s honey-coated put-downs! Eric is telling Sookie that she is stronger, more resourceful than she believes, Bill always tells her how naive, fragile and helpless she is (although he dresses it in prettier words). It’s about time that someone told her something positive about herself and enouraged her to have more self worth to counteract the helpless china doll box that Bill seems to want to lock her into.

    • 503 Gigi
      June 11, 2010 at 4:51 pm

      [Bill’s Proposal. I think that Bill rushed a proposal to Sookie to maintain his hold on her. Maybe QSA gave him the impression that his mission was reaching an end, and he knows that with that ends his importance to QSA ends too. By being married to Sookie (even under human law) he maintains his importance and cannot be cast aside. By marrying her he not only retains his bedmate and dinner, but it also elevates his importance in the vampire hierarchy. By being married to the Queen’s telepath he stops being a cog in the machinery that is easily replaced and becomes a player in the game.]

      This.

      I agree completely with you, and this has always been my feeling about his proposal. I really don’t think it was planned and ordered by SA, but really motivated by the insistence she showed into meeting Sookie sooner than he expected (as well as in Eric interest in her). Beeel felt threatened by both, and knowing he’s the pawn with less authority and power, and with less opportunity to win the game, made his desperate ultimate move in order to assure the winning prize that everyone wants…. BEFORE the “game” (that includes his mission) can be disclosed and he may loose the love of Sookie and the opportunity to escalate in the vampire hierarchy forever.

      Bill Minosode proves again that Bill is willing to glamour humans whenever he thinks it would be convinient for his purposes. The same way he tried to do with Sookie when met her, the same way he did with Jessica before turning her at the trial, with Jessica’s sister first, and her whole family later; and with the limousine’s driver sent by the FotS to kidnap Sookie at Dallas airport. Because he is a manipulator, and he has learned through time that the glamour of humans is a very powerful manipulative weapon. So he didn’t really need to have a lot of money to book a whole restaurant for a night and to send Sookie an expensive dress as a gift or to buy two plane tickets, because the way he “bought” the ring is the proof of how he acheived the rest.

      [Bill always tells her how naive, fragile and helpless she is (although he dresses it in prettier words).]

      This is the way that he has been manipulating Sookie because he can’t glamour her… And he is the only one of the game players who really knows very well Sookie’s emotional weaknesses, her childhood story, her fears and her need for a male figure in her life So that’s why he took the risk with the proposal. Because he knew that moment was his “once in a lifetime” chance that she marry him.

      • June 11, 2010 at 5:05 pm

        Chat Noir and Gigi you’re provided the best analysis of Bill’s motivation for the proposal that I’ve seen.

        I was surprised the AB would bring in SA’s wedding s3, but the one thing it does is show that vampires use marriage as a means to an end. That is the reality despite the romantic tripe that was published in the tabloids about vampire marriages in S2.

        • 505 Gigi
          June 11, 2010 at 6:45 pm

          […but the one thing it does is show that vampires use marriage as a means to an end. That is the reality despite the romantic tripe that was published in the tabloids about vampire marriages in S2.]

          You are right. And the motives that Bill had to make the proposal serve perfectly in the cliffhanger for S3, because they are also a foreshadow of the political convenience of vampire marriages in the next season.

          • 506 VikingLover
            June 11, 2010 at 6:54 pm

            Oh, I like this Gigi! Yes, you are absolutely right about it being foreshadowing for what marriages really mean in the vamp heirarchy. Me likey!

      • June 11, 2010 at 5:28 pm

        Bill may have hatched his plan back as far as S2, can’t remember the # of the Ep. Sookie returns from seeing Barry again at the breakfast bar. She returns and Bill states he dreamt she was gone. Then goes further to say that he felt like a waitress (paraphrasing). He was responsible for Jessica and Sookie but he had no say/control. I think Bill did not like being a “nobody” in the vampire political hierarchy. He may have been a social climber in his human life and if that is true then I think it continues in his vampire life.

        • 508 LLE
          June 12, 2010 at 4:34 pm

          That while he involved with Sookie. Bill wants to control Sookie and Sookie thinks Bill is being Bill’s property that she will be safe from other vampires. Bill tried to tell Sookie that they are in Texas and different rules. Bill was very upset that she was not sleeping in daytime. Sookie got up because she wanted something to eat.

          Sookie should grow up and figure out what she want in her life and I doubt it will be Bill when she find out that he was following the Queen’s order of getting involved with her.

  39. 509 Kathy
    June 12, 2010 at 3:37 am

    Barfity barf barf! I told you all, Bill will be forgiven every step of the way because he LOVES Sookie SO much! It won’t matter what he does….

    From The New York Daily News Interview:

    PW: But knowing him takes Bill to a very dark place this year.
    Stephen: Yes. That’s very true. I think the most interesting thing is that for better or for worse, Bill will do anything – ANYTHING — to protect Sookie. Even if it means losing himself. It’s like this crazy protective instinct in him. He’ll massacre anyone, even himself, and go so far away from who he’s become to protect her. One wonders even if it’s to the detriment of Sookie in some respects because he’s willing to go so far. And that’s a really interesting thing to play – how protective you are of the person you love?

    • 510 Kathy
      June 12, 2010 at 3:38 am

      Ooops its from the New York Post.

    • 511 Kathy
      June 12, 2010 at 3:41 am

      Another quote:

      PW: So what you’re saying is Bill might smile?
      Stephen: [laughs] You never know! I think it’s interesting because obviously everyone is fascinated by the Eric/Sookie stuff. And the so called love triangle with Sookie/Bill/Eric is beautifully played out. But what’s interesting about Bill is that you know he’s a solid anchor for Sookie. And that creates a great dynamic for somebody much more Machiavellian, like Eric. So we see she’s got the choice of the guy who’s out for himself and the one who will be her ultimate protector. For a woman in that situation, she’d probably want a little mixture of both. I find that really interesting

      • 512 VikingLover
        June 12, 2010 at 4:13 pm

        Yeah, I saw that and I was like what? But then I saw that he also said the reason he loves the show is because neither Eric or Bill are both all good or all bad. He said you will never see each one be 100% and that AB loves his “heroes” to be flawed. He said “We’ll never see Eric be 100% wonderful – we know he’s flawed, we know Bill is flawed, we know Sookie is flawed. Alan puts obstacles in our heroes’ paths and likes to see how they react.” I really don’t think AB will forgive Bill (or Eric, or Sookie) no matter what.

        He also said that Bill and Sookie would not be together because that would be boring.

        About him being her protector, I think he’s describing these characters from the POV of the beginning of the season. He cannot say that Bill is the ultimate protector because the Queen of LA assigned him that task. I’m sure Bill will be forgiven/redeemed like he was in the books. I’m just not sure it will be with Sookie – not if he’s supposed to be a tragic hero.

        In any case, I think he’s just coming from the POV of HIS character just like AP and AS approach interviews from the POV of theirs.


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