Finale Spoiler Pics

Like almost everyone else around here I’m on a self-imposed, spoiler restricted diet right now.

Well, I thought I was. But then I saw these and, well…FUCK THAT.

I’m on it like a fat kid on cake.

I’ve hidden these juicy, ERIC-CENTRIC finale pictures for the benefit of those who have more self control than I.

HA. I knew you’d all cave.

Check this shit OUT. These images have just turned up on SpoilerTV (view the full set). They were taken on the finale shoot. I strongly suspect a deliberate leak here to completely throw us off, because it seems pretty obvious to me what we’re supposed to infer from these. Which means it’s probably completely wrong, but I’m plunging in anyway.

Exhibit A

Godric? Resplendent in his glowing white Jesus rooftop ensemble? The same ensemble that we thought we saw go up in flames in what was, I will admit a rather hilarious CGI fail? What the fuckity fuck??

Exhibit B

Eric with what appears to be a slight case of Crispy Bill. Commonly caused by spending too much time in the sun when you forget you’re a FUCKING VAMPIRE, and delude yourself into believing you can save your girlfriend from a serial killer in the roaring midday sun. May also be caused by standing around for too long bawling, while your maker tops himself.

Oddly, this affliction only seems present on his face and his hands. This is somewhat LESS odd, however when you consider that in the rooftop scene, Eric was actually wearing sleeves:

Exhibit C

Russell Edgington – also looking slightly sun-kissed.


So it appears that some sort of flashback/dream/hallucination/fantasy/god-only-knows-WHAT with this show – is being filmed of Godric’s death. Incidentally, this also explains somewhat the return of the blonde hair in season 2 style. You know, because this show cares so much about continuity issues.

But Russell Edgington? WHAT? Or was he shooting a separate scene? WHAT? But he’s also burnt. I’m so confused *sobs in corner*.

Rant Incoming. We are SO NOT getting AE in any form that I’m going to be happy with in season 4. This season it’s the hair. Next season, I’ll be ranting incoherently about Alan Ball pissing all over the closest thing I have to a bible – my beloved Dead to the World. Asshole.

Must move on. This little snap surfaced on Twitter earlier. It appears the outside of Fangtasia has been attacked by a bunch of pissed off 14 year olds breaking curfew. Or something.

I don’t know what episode this is from, but if I had to guess, I’d say it’s 11 or 12. And I’m also guessing that things are about to get very, very unpleasant for Sheriff Northman, and for vampires in general.


And while I’m posting spoilers (we’re all spoiled to hell again now, what’s it matter!?) these are the images of QSA, Hadley, Eric, Lorena and Bill that have been mentioned in the last day or two.

Eric, Hadley and a caged QSA

When I first saw this, I thought it was Bill. But a second look at the pants and the boots, and a quick comparison to the pic above…and now I’m not so sure.

And to close proceedings, Bill gives Momma a knuckle sandwich. But you KNOW she goaded him until he snapped because she’s a crazy bitch and Bill would never do that! [/sarcasm]

It looks like Bill’s hand is cut off here for some reason, but I’ve seen a gif of the scene and Bill’s hand is definitely intact.

Source: bloodisforsuckers tumblr

So what are we to make of this big ole bag of crazy?

575 Responses to “Finale Spoiler Pics”

  1. 1 nskars
    June 16, 2010 at 11:55 am

    I have no idea what to make of any of it. Is it real or has it been faked to throw us all off? Well, why would the make-up dept spend hours applying Crispy Bill make-up to the Viking King if it’s only a device to sidetrack us crazy bitches?

    This is all so spoilerifically confusingly awesome, thank you Temptress.

  2. June 16, 2010 at 11:56 am

    ARGH!!! I hate it when our self imposed exile is broken by the carrots of finale stills!!! Oh well we did last awhile didn’t we.

    A friend was lucky enough to be at the Premier of the first two episodes last week, and she got the opportunity to talk with many of the actors we love (or hate). The adorable Allan Hyde was there, and she got to talk with him. He had said to her that there is only two flashbacks with him involved, one coming up in ep 2 or 3, and one near the end. I’m not sure why we would be getting a flashback to Godric’s death though. Is not what we saw real?? If it was whose faulty narrative was it then.

    One thing i did notice during the first episode was that Eric’s hair wasn’t as dark as i thought it was. In these finale pictures however it is a lot lighter again..

    Russell’s burnt state has me confused too, maybe he has just been in a fight??? Way to long away to think about it.

    I’m not sure really what to think, Head is in overload!!

  3. 4 MASpencer
    June 16, 2010 at 11:57 am


    Yeah, I thought that was Bill in the torture chamber, too– but the pointy boots have me second guessing myself.

    I haven’t the slightest clue what to say about Sophie-Anne in the cage. But I’m assuming it will be a symbolic or ironic development.

    And don’t even ask me what to say about Eric’s Freddy Krueger face, because I haven’t the slightest, unless Fangtasia got hit with some kind of molotov cocktail. I DO, however, think that Godric will be showing up via some kind of near death experience– which is the same circumstance under which I think Claudine will appear to Sookie. So… that’s inneresting.

    • June 16, 2010 at 12:00 pm

      When i saw these new pictures i said to SVB if they could have brought the bombing in some form or fashion in early to TB. So maybe you are right and it was an attack of some form

      • 6 mallie1
        June 16, 2010 at 5:05 pm

        I really like the behind the scenes photos. Still on my first cup of joe but could they be charred from an attack on say the hotel where they are staying? From the s3 trailers don’t those pointy boots belong to Taras’ vamp?

        • 7 SusanMy
          June 16, 2010 at 5:29 pm

          I’m beginning to think pointy boots are the new TB vamp dress code–I mean, which of these guys *isn’t* wearing them at some point? Well, I guess Russell doesn’t–he’s apparently all about the English riding boot…

  4. 8 Jo
    June 16, 2010 at 11:59 am

    OMG, I have to stop reading spoilers! just thinking, all burned in Eric because I feel like crying, can not stand that nothing bad happens to him. I know he is a fictional character, but I can not stand still. Anyway, do not seem so bad if it’s a flashback.
    I have to remember that: he signed for seven years, is the biggest attraction of the show (hello HBO concert – this fucking opening credits please? Is ridiculous!), And he can not die.
    Alan Hide! uhuuu, missed it
    Bill has to be in the photo, because it makes no sense if that’s Lorena.

    • June 16, 2010 at 12:04 pm

      I don’t think it is Lorena.

      I blew it up as big as I could, it still isn’t clear but I certainly would NOT be willing to bet money that it’s Lorena crouched beside him.

      But I have no idea who it is.

      • June 16, 2010 at 12:09 pm

        I actually think it’s Debbie… Hair colour i think is closer to her’s… and she is involved in Bill’s torture in the book.

        • 11 MASpencer
          June 16, 2010 at 12:11 pm

          That’s EXACTLY who I was going to suggest.

          Speaking of which, any guesses as to which episode these pics are from?

          • June 16, 2010 at 12:15 pm

            Yep that’s what I’m thinking now after further scrutiny.

            NO idea what ep they’re from.

          • 13 legalease
            June 16, 2010 at 7:15 pm

            It definitely could be Debbie. There is a pic of Debbie in Sookie’s room that was released last week. I thought that scene would happen after Jackson and Sookie getting out of the hospital, but who knows? If she’s the one torturing Bill, it must happen before his rescue. If we knew whether this was at Russell’s mansion or whether it takes place somewhere else it would be easier to predict. I’m thinking that Bill’s rescue, or whatever it will be, is in Episode 7.

            I saw a recent pic of Britt M. on FB and she was back to her blonde hair, so I guess she’s through with filming. I originally thought she’d survive the season, but with the cast talking about all of the deaths this season, she may have an early exit. If she does, I bet it happens at Sookie’s. I wonder if Sookie will still do it or someone else, perhaps Alcide?

      • June 16, 2010 at 12:17 pm

        Maybe it goes with Renee’s thoughts that they are going to drain Eric for the V selling??? A little torture before??? Who f*cking knows anymore

  5. 15 Lori
    June 16, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    OK can’t resist any longer, I’ve been lurking around here for a while now because I love all your theories and thoughts so I’ve caved lol. So nice to see some Viking lovers!

    As to these pics….Eric and Russell have a showdown during the day? (they’re older so they can be more coherent during the day right?). Godric? mmm because of his outfit it might not be a flashback, maybe Eric sees him in a vision or something? OR because I love the shared dream theory what if Sookie shares Godric’s final moments with Eric?

    • 16 Robin
      June 16, 2010 at 1:20 pm

      Ooh Lori, I love the idea of Sookie sharing Godric’s final moments with Eric! So glad you have decided to join us!

      • 17 Lori
        June 16, 2010 at 1:39 pm

        Thanks so much for the welcome! and yeah I was gutted when the ep 10 e/s scene turned out to be a dream so since then I’ve wanted a scene where they talk about Godric and his final moments. It’s like it’s been all swept under the rug, about how she Eric with Godric and her wanting to comfort him urgh, so much potential wasted.

        • 18 Robin
          June 17, 2010 at 2:37 am

          Lori, there is a theory about that particular dream sequence. There are several of us that actually think the first part of that dream sequence occurred. Whether or not we ever get some confirmation, who knows?

  6. 19 Jo
    June 16, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    SVB can start group therapy in the desecration that AB will make DtTW. I’m already preparing myself mentally a year earlier.
    I think I’ll read it again and again the book not to be sick with anger.

    • 20 Lori
      June 16, 2010 at 12:10 pm

      *hits head on desk* I swear if AB fucks this book up I’m gonna one pissed off viking fan

    • 21 Kathy
      June 16, 2010 at 1:57 pm

      Oh, I have NO doubt he’s going to fuck up DTTW. I’ve been saying it all along and the reason I’m sure he will is, is that he keeps saying “Eric will have amnesia” to placate us Book4 lovers. But you know Alan, he’s just trying to shut us up. There’s no way he’s going to tell that story remotley close to the proper arc. He wants to suprise us, he says! We’d be bored otherwise, he says.

      Oh, Eric WILL get amneisa, I don’t doubt that either, but it won’t be in the story we’re all begging for. After all, remember, this is a series of stories about the “main couple, Sookie and Bill.” Wouldn’t do for Sookie to fall for our beautiful Viking like she does in the books, because, of course, Charlaine was wrong when she wrote it. She was wrong when she wrote all the rest of the books in the series. The main couple, the two that really really love each other, the soul mates in those books are Sookie and Bill. Alan is just correcting Charlain’s mistakes. Am I being bitter and sarcastic enough?

      • 22 Kathy
        June 16, 2010 at 1:58 pm

        “remotely” close…

      • 23 Lori
        June 16, 2010 at 3:18 pm

        You know I just don’t get it, with the way E/S is done in the books it’s perfect because it doesn’t happen quickly, the relationship has longevity, it’s keeps us rooting for Eric and he could have that on the show so why even try and keep Bill as the main love interest, the mind boggles. It’s one thing to drop things like Bill feeding on a human in Dallas but to drop things such as the rape scene or the edict will have my blood boiling. Urgh I feel like sending AB the books highlighting the relevant parts he must have missed.

        • June 16, 2010 at 3:54 pm

          I’ve always thought that a big part of Alan’s problem would be because I read in an interview that he read the first 4 books at first before deciding he wanted to adapt them, and obviously at that point, the edict hasn’t been announced and though Bill raped Sookie, he is the main interest in the first few books. I imagine he became part of a BL’s club in his head. I actually wonder sometimes whether he then read the later books and thought “Oh S**t”
          He also had never counted on the fanbase either obviously, I can’t count the amount of times I have heard arguments about the fans of the books being a tiny portion of the fans of the show.

          • 25 Freyja
            June 16, 2010 at 4:00 pm

            Well the fans of the books has grown severly now, I even heard that the books were sold out in many bookstores last week.

            • June 16, 2010 at 6:38 pm

              I agree, they should, and I know all about the increases in sales lol I used to work in waterstones in the UK and the sales were massive on the books when the show started over here, and I had a discussion with a colleague when I first read them saying about how they should take fans into account more, but at the end of the day, it’s Alan Ball’s baby, I really think that CH was a bit stupid to not ask for more control like most authors do, his line about not planning to completely follow the books means he can basically do what he wants.

              • 27 Kathy
                June 16, 2010 at 6:42 pm

                I’ve been thinking about the CH control issue. Her agent should have asked for a bit of it, but at the time, the series had a following but not a huge one. I guess they figured well, Alan Ball whoo hoo! Jo Rowling kept a tight rein on those movies, but those books were HUGE when she sold the rights, so she knew what a phenom it was going to be.

                • June 16, 2010 at 6:50 pm

                  Well obviously it was VERY different for Jo, but I just can’t help thinking, as a writer myself, that letting someone have that much control over something you have spent years creating, and then seeing them change things, I would not be happy. Really now-a-days, because of Harry Potter, authors can ask for veto rights much easier then they used to. I can’t help getting the feeling however from the interviews with CH that she doesn’t really care though, which is sad considering how many years she has put into the books.

                  I mean, look as an example at this website, people see the show and start to read the books, and then they see the inconsistencies and realise that things don’t seem to be going in quite the same direction, I wouldn’t want my work misrepresented.

                  • 29 Kathy
                    June 16, 2010 at 6:58 pm

                    Thing is, what CAN CH say? She needs to play nice, it’s a hit. I don’t know if you remember what happened with Anne Rice. When they made that atrocious casting of Tom Cruise as Lestat, she went batshit, said how horrible a choice that was, AND IT WAS!! Then all of a sudden she took out a two page spread in Variety, taking back everything she said. I think she was forced to do it. It wouldn’t do for the writer to ruin a big budget film like that and Anne had a lot of influence back then. It was horrible what they did to that story. Changing a major major plot point in the very beginning, which ruined what her beautiful story was about.

                    In New York, when asked Charlaine focused on the changes she liked about True Blood, and didn’t put a negative spin on it, but I got the feeling it was if you can’t say anything nice don’t say anything at all. She also ended that answer with a giggle and “I’m glad people like my books better!”

                    • June 16, 2010 at 7:23 pm

                      I’m not old enough to know about the Anne Rice stuff, I was 6 when Interview with a Vampire was released, but things are so different with adaptations now, the amount of them alone dictates that they are more likey to be successful, and its all because harry Potter as an adaptation was so successful, writers have the backing now to say well I would like to have some input, especially when it is something about vampires, if there is a huge craze going on about vampires and your book is a vampire book you would be stupid to not want more control.
                      Does anyone know whether she sold all the rights for all books or just for X amount of books?

                      I get the overall impression that CH doesn’t really care much because of a lot of things though, she might have been gagged on negative comments, but its other things that make me question her integrity, the whole Bill dying saga and how much control her UK publishers have, have you seen that you now can only get covers with the TB characters on in this country? I know they are trying to build a following here but usually you don’t remove the regular edition from shelves completely.
                      ACH! maybe I should just march into her publishers and knock some sense into them and then hop on a plane and send her a book on business strategy!
                      Step 1: Don’t alienate your already established fanbase!!

                      End rant lol ;D

                    • 31 Ziggy
                      June 17, 2010 at 12:07 am

                      God, don’t talk to me about the Anne Rice movies. Interview with the Vampire wasn’t actually too bad. I still don’t like Tom Cruise as Lestat, but I don’t like Tom Cruise full stop, so that definitely coloured my opinion. What WAS godawful was the adaption of Queen of the Damned (in which they tried to condense The Vampire Lestat and Queen of the Damned into one movie). They changed it so much it was beyond recognition. I remember being quite excited when I went to see it at the cinema and I was literally fuming when it finished. To this day I’ve never hated anything so savagely as I did that movie. It was an abomination! Can’t even imagine what Anne Rice thought of it.

                      (end of rant)

                    • 32 Kathy
                      June 17, 2010 at 2:19 am

                      In the late 80s I was doing work for the associate producer of Dirty Dancing and she was having me read scripts for her. I brought her “Interview” and told her she should get the rights. She laughed and said “Nobody cares about vampires anymore.” Grrrr. If she had only listened to me….!!!

                      No one has ever adapted any of those Anne’s books the correct way. Elton John’s Broadway show of Lestat was dreadful. I could barely sit through it. They made him more Louis than anyone else and Armand was more like Lestat. The problem is writers don’t understand the “Eric” and “Lestat” characters are the great compelling characters. They always want to make them mopey and longing for their humanity. Neither Eric nor Lestat long for that. They revel in their Vampireness.

          • 33 LLE
            June 16, 2010 at 4:03 pm

            AB read the nine books and CH probably will give him DITF book so he will read that.

            AB is a fan of CH and he enjoy reading them.

            • 34 Freyja
              June 16, 2010 at 4:08 pm

              CH already gave him book 10. He got it way before it came out.

              • June 16, 2010 at 6:34 pm

                Yes he will have now, but when he first found the series he read the first 4, this is before he made the show or anything remember, his initial reading where he built his initial impressions of the characters, if he likes Bill as a character and thinks wow I can create a show around this Sookie/Bill relationship, before reading the worst parts of the Bill saga and the further development with Eric, then it isn’t that surprising that he is twisting things to suit.

                • 36 lalala
                  June 16, 2010 at 7:36 pm

                  yeah but, didn’t things start to go downhill with Bill by book 3, club dead? Isn’t that when pam and eric and chow visit sookie and threaten her about the whereabouts of bill’s database? Alan Ball had to have read what we all read by then, had to have followed down the same emotional path we all took, no?

                  • 37 Jo
                    June 16, 2010 at 7:44 pm

                    For me the fall of the Bill has already begun in LDID was there that CH has already started to plant the seeds, with the fights, disagreements, etc.

                    • 38 lalala
                      June 16, 2010 at 8:07 pm

                      @Jo: True. And when I read book one again a few months back, i saw Bill in a whole new light (darker, more sinister) and felt worse for sookie (as the abused, in a way).
                      So I guess alan ball needed to choose a creative arc/tilt whatever – some thread to weave thru the series – something has to hold this thing together – it can get nuts with all of the characters, and all of the changes to the book story…

                    • June 16, 2010 at 8:34 pm

                      It is definitely true you get a different impression on a re-read, I read books 1-9 in the space of about 2 weeks, but I had a gap where I read until book 3 and then had to wait for the others to arrive and I remember sort of sympathising with Bill then, after all it was his maker, and then he was a ravenous tortured vampire! And then all of a sudden having a different opinion of Bill after the other ones had arrived.

                    • 40 LLE
                      June 16, 2010 at 8:40 pm

                      CH planning the seed in the first book about Bill. Bill did not act like he wanted to be around her at all. When did Bill fall in love with Sookie?

                      Sookie left clues in book 1 and 2 about her love for Bill. Sookie believe she love him but she was not in love with him.

                      I did buy the great love between Bill and Sookie in the books.

                    • June 16, 2010 at 8:58 pm

                      It isn’t that Bill fell in love with Sookie, it is that he appeared to have, Sookie’s perception was that they loved each other, as opposed to Eric who was the scary sheriff who wanted her for telepathy and for a shag.

                    • 42 LLE
                      June 16, 2010 at 10:02 pm


                      Bill was very abusive to Sookie in book 1 and 2. Bill control Sookie and CH did leave clues that Bill was not right for her in her books. Bill raped Sookie in book 3. Bill almost broke both of her arms but Sam save her from Bill. Sookie has very low-esteem about herself.

                      Eric wanted Sookie for sex and he rented her out in book 2. Eric started to have feelings for Sookie in the middle of book 3 and he did not liked feelings. Eric told Sookie the truth and Bill has not.

                    • June 16, 2010 at 10:22 pm

                      LLE I am not quite sure where you are going with this, yes those things happened and Bill is a bad guy but it was Sookie’s perception of things that was important, the book is written in first person narrative, and Sookie is very forgiving, reading something in first person narrative means you are reading from their perspective, and in book 4 Sookie hated that Bill raped her and cheated on her but she still believed she loved him. At that point she does not know that Bill has been lying to her the whole time and was only there because of the edict.
                      Her opinion of Eric in book 4 was that she was falling for him but that she didn’t believe normal Eric could be like amnesia Eric. She believed normal Eric to only be after her as an asset and a lay.

                      I am not talking about what we think about how Bill acted towards Sookie here, I am talking about how Sookie perceives and reacts to his behaviour, this is important because it is Sookie’s perspective that we read from, and when we read we are only seeing what the character sees. It’s like rose tinted glasses, we may know Bill is the bad guy but it takes Sookie until book 6 to realise how bad. Someone reading the series for the first time would follow with what Sookie believes.

                    • 44 LLE
                      June 16, 2010 at 10:30 pm


                      Sookie was involved sexual with Bill and did think of having sex with JB.

                      Sookie knew that she was not in love with Bill but she love him. Bill is a control freak and was very abusive to Sookie.

                      Sookie did believe Bill love her until she found out in book 6 that he was using her. Sookie walked out on Bill in book 3 after she rescue him from Loraine Sookie never went back to Bill at all.

                    • 45 Angie
                      June 20, 2010 at 12:16 am

                      For me the fall of the Bill has already begun in LDID was there that CH has already started to plant the seeds, with the fights, disagreements, etc.

                      To be fair, on TB, to me the ‘fall of the Bill’ (LOL) started with his anger over the Jessica Incident in S2 EP2, but really, Sookie only started acting way more over-the-top schoompy towards Bill after “Scratches”. I hope this means that we’ll see more about how the blood bond influences a human’s behavior towards a vamp (we’ve already seen evidence of that with the Sam/Bill dream, and the Franklin/Tara spoilers).

                      But, I agree, even without the edict, I don’t at all understand how AB decided that Bill/Sookie’s relationship should be the basis for the series (unless he’s going for something incredibly fucked-up – which knowing him, he probably is). I never ever warmed up to Bill’s character in the books, and I have a hard time seeing how anyone would think that’s a good central relationship for a series (hell, even CH seemed to realize this. Which is, I think, the primary reason why she somewhat hastily broke Bill and Sookie up in a spectacular fashion in Club Dead – I’m always reminded of Sex and the City – “We are so over, we need a new word for ‘over’.”).

                      Basically, I agree with you, and I can’t help but think that part of the reason they want to keep Bill/Sookie as the main ship is because Anna/Stephen are a couple in real-life. Of course, I’m happy for them, but I can’t help but think, if they give Sookie a new love interest, what are they going to do with Bill? I hope they develop something for his character outside of the Sookie relationship, because if she’s going to have a reasonable amount of sexytimes with Eric and/or Alcide this season, I wonder what will become of Bill. In the books, he’s basically always on the peripheral, wanting to get back with Sook, but he has to know that isn’t gonna happen. Then again, we always see the books from Sookie’s POV, and the show always adds storylines for the characters that Sookie couldn’t possibly be privy to, so maybe they’ll introduce Selah, or some other love interest for Bill. Of course he won’t be nearly as invested in those relationships as he was with Sookie. Maybe he’ll try to care for another woman, but finds himself incapable of doing so. It could bring on some believable angst. Imagine fucking up a relationship with someone that you genuinely loved, then having to see her carry on with someone you hate? Could be awesome. And AB has quite the eye for things that are awesome and fucked-up. As annoyed as I am by a few of his choices, I still love what he has created out of this series. I think he could more than pull it off. If he chooses to. *sigh*

                    • 46 Freyja
                      June 20, 2010 at 12:40 am

                      If I was AB, I would look at the show as we look at the books… just add a twist and extra meat/plotline. I mean what is more watching the angst and love of Bill Compton over his Sookie or…
                      AE and Sookie falling in love
                      Eric gaining memory and forget their time together
                      Sookie hurt and try to hide her feelings from Eric
                      Quinn the rebound guy or maybe more Alcide
                      Eric gaining his other lost memory. Try to understand his feelings for ‘meer’ human.
                      Sookie’s torn between her feelings for Quinn/Alcide and Eric
                      Bill constantly trying to get back together with her

                      And then all the other stuff, Rhodes, takeover, fairywar….

                      For me this would make more tension and excitement. Make it about Sookie, not Sookie/Bill or Sookie/Eric

                    • 47 Angie
                      June 20, 2010 at 1:02 am

                      Speaking of deepening the storylines, I’m a little disappointed with how the show has handled the Bill/Eric relationship. I love the way Entertainment Weekly describes them (as “frenemies”) but truthfully, we haven’t seen nearly enough of their relationship outside of the Sookie war. In the books, Bill wasn’t nearly as petulant towards Eric, he knew his place. I loved Stephen and Alex’s idea of Bill/Eric flashbacks (“Disco Bill” and “Disco Eric” lol – I wanna see “Disco Pam” too, btw!) It would add a much-needed layer of conflict. I want to see more of a long-standing relationship/rivalry between the two (a la Angel and Spike).

                    • 48 Freyja
                      June 20, 2010 at 1:30 am

                      *(“Disco Bill” and “Disco Eric” lol – I wanna see “Disco Pam” too, btw!)*

                      hahaha I would love to see that, although I would probably die from histerical laughter on my sofa 😀

                    • 49 Kathy
                      June 20, 2010 at 1:37 am

                      I agree. One of my favorite moments were when the two of them kill the weres in her house, start bickering and posturing for her attention and she uninvites both of them. That was the moment I thought “There’s such great chemistry between the three of them, they should open a supe detective agency.

                  • June 16, 2010 at 8:16 pm

                    Yes it does start to occur then, and then gets all manner of worse in book 6 with the reveal about the edict, if you think about it, Sookie takes that so much harder then being cheated on and being raped, Bill has done wrong in book 3 but he isn’t so completely you haven’t a chance that it isn’t possible to still feel for his character. Sookie herself justifies Bill’s raping her to herself, she’s stupid mind but it isn’t as definite until we learn it was all a job.
                    If you read the first 4 books and hadn’t read the rest, you would think Bill loved Sookie but then his maker intervened and caused problems and they broke up, and that Eric is a whore who is only after sex with Sookie unless he loses his memories and becomes a different Eric all together. You get a very different impression of Bill AND Eric at that point, which is my point, that Bill appears to have loved Sookie, where as Eric just wanted to get into her pants.
                    This is a very roundabout way of saying that when AB first wanted to turn this into a show, he will be rooting for Bill and that would be why he says things like writing around the “sookie and bill relationship” as a focal point.

                    • 51 LLE
                      June 16, 2010 at 8:24 pm

                      AB loves to spin things to the fans and I take his words as grain of salt. I don’t believe his interviews what he says to the press.

                      Sookie is the cord character and every character has to writing around her and that includes Bill.

                    • June 16, 2010 at 8:29 pm

                      That is how it should be yes, if it isn’t then that is what worries me.

                    • 53 LLE
                      June 16, 2010 at 9:09 pm


                      AB loves the shock treatment and tells fake stuff. AB knows that lot of fans has read the book about Bill’s kidnapping and who has him.

                      AB tells the fans who read the books that they will surprised and shock who grab Bill. I was not surprised and shock because I figure out who grab Bill because the calling cast for characters. The same group that has Bill but different way of kidnapping Bill.

                      The writers has read Club Dead and that is Sookie’s bible and it will be different because he wants to surprised the fans whom already read the book.

                    • 54 lala
                      June 17, 2010 at 12:38 pm

                      LLE and Georgina: Great discussion.
                      Both of you make very valid points about the nature of the bill/sookie and eric/sookie relationships. And the way they transformed over the course of the books. And it is important, as you have said, to keep in mind Sookie’s perspective is the one the reader has to go by. Enjoyed your points and agree – makes my understanding of the books/story much deeper than I initially understood it.:)

          • 55 Lori
            June 16, 2010 at 4:22 pm

            Possibly but you’d think that because of the number of book readers that love Eric he would feel confident to follow the books. The tv viewers would totally do the same as the book readers IMO. Heck even Kristin from E said that she’s now rooting for Eric lol

            • 56 Kathy
              June 16, 2010 at 5:29 pm

              I hope the fans going to ComicCon make an even bigger fuss over Eric this year. It’s the only way to get through to him it seems. I so wish I could go! 🙂

              • 57 sunnynala
                June 16, 2010 at 7:40 pm

                Come on! AB is a gay man, he totes adores Eric. 😀

                • 58 Freyja
                  June 16, 2010 at 7:53 pm

                  Well I’m hoping AB has great plans for him! It looks like he has begun with this season, it’s very Eric centric… looks like the cliffhanger involves him!
                  I’m also hoping that AB liked to play the audience with ‘gentleman’ Bill, just so he could shock them this season. He already treated Eric badly the first two seasons!

                  • June 16, 2010 at 8:02 pm

                    I am hoping so too, the “Bill and Sookie relationship” comment about them writing to revolve around them really peed me off though, I am sort of waiting to see whether he can drag the Bill stuff on any more, or whether he is going to make Bill look bad and then just make Eric look worse or something. I just have a gut feeling that Eric isn’t going to be left smelling like roses either.

                    I definitely like all the AS screen time though ;D

                    • 60 Freyja
                      June 16, 2010 at 8:40 pm

                      I’m hoping the ‘Bill/Sookie realationship’ is part of ABs plot to surprise the audience, ’cause really still everybody thinks Bill is a southern gentleman, and that is all going to change now (I think the twisted sex scene is in ep.2), AB has been leading the audience in to this and incredibly, not so many catch on, even with all the clues. I’m just hoping that AB is enjoying himself when he lifts the vail 😉 And I’m sure he will.
                      And I really don’t want Eric to be left ‘smelling like roses’. In Club Dead he is still his ruthless self. Witty and sexy but ruthless nevertheless. Except when it comes to Sookie though, and that’s what I want to come through on the show. From the book stand a view we really don’t know how Eric acts when not around Sookie, but I guess he’s manipulative and ruthless, although fair vampire sheriff.

                    • June 16, 2010 at 8:53 pm

                      I certainly hope you are right Freyja, and that it is a ploy, my gut tells me AB is going to be tricky and dumb down how bad Bill looks but we shall see!!

                      By smelling of roses about Eric I meant in relation to Sookie, AB has spent a lot of time showing his emotional side in season 2 and in the promos we’ve seen, I just have a feeling that Eric will be made to look bad in Sookie’s eyes as thats the sort of twisty thing AB would do. Maybe something to do with the rejection that was in one of the episode summaries? who knows!

                    • 62 LLE
                      June 16, 2010 at 9:00 pm


                      I believed they are going for the Sookie and Eric getting together. Stephen even mention that Sookie and Bill breakup and Sookie will get involved with Eric.

                      Alex even said that Sookie and Eric will get involved but did not know when.

                      The big stars do know what the future stories are.

                    • June 16, 2010 at 9:12 pm

                      Yeah so do I but we don’t know when, with AB talking about hoping it runs as long as Law and Order we could be waiting aaages lol

                      I am rooting for them to get together, as nearly everyone here is, I just think there are going to be some more AB shaped twists and turns first, it is one of the things that makes me doubt we are going to get a really good representation of AE, especially as I am doubting they are going to have Bill as absent as he is in the books, which would throw a spanner in the works. We shall have to see if there are contract negotiations before S4!

                    • 64 LLE
                      June 16, 2010 at 9:30 pm

                      Bill was heavy in book 1 and 2 and started to drop in book 3. Bill rarely has any stories at all in the books.

                      AB did say about Bill being a tragic hero.

                  • 65 LLE
                    June 16, 2010 at 8:10 pm

                    I can understand Eric not having much airtime in season 1 but in season 2 he rarely got airtime. The writers excuse is that he was not in much in book 2 not true. Jason, Sam, Tara, and other characters were not in much at all. In the books, Tara was not in book 1. Tara on the show is one of the stars.

                    AB knows know that Alex is the fans favorite and he going to get more airtime.

                    • June 16, 2010 at 8:27 pm

                      For me it is about how they use the air time though, they can give him more air time because he is the favorite (and he is my fave too so I like more air time for Eric and less for Bill) but he can still use that to make sure that we don’t much like Eric if he wants too.

                • 67 LLE
                  June 16, 2010 at 8:01 pm

                  AB adores Jason. AB favorite character is Jason not Eric. AB did say that he loves all his characters.

                  • June 16, 2010 at 8:31 pm

                    Jason is Eric minus 970 years. If he adores Jason, he adores Eric that much more.

                    • 69 LLE
                      June 16, 2010 at 8:36 pm

                      I don’t think AB cares how old Jason is. Jason AB favorite character and he going to get a lot of air time compare to Eric.

                      Eric is one of my favorites characters.

                    • June 16, 2010 at 8:38 pm

                      Lol I like that! I can so see that as being a way to convince Jason vamps aren’t all that bad.

                      Sookie: “Jase, you want to know what your life will be like if you turn into a vampire and don’t change your ways?”

                      Jason: “Damn Sook! Ya know I hate vamps, they steal all the good women!”

                      Sookie:”Well just lookie over there at Eric, you want to be a whore, thats the way to do it, shouldn’t hate on vamps so much Jason, he’s even got a throne, they beg him!”

                    • June 16, 2010 at 8:50 pm

                      ROTFL! I can totally see that!

          • 72 KC
            June 17, 2010 at 6:16 pm

            I think it’s funny that they kept saying “Well, only 5% of our audience have read the books.” but this season there’s a lot of “We want to keep it fresh for the fans that have read the books.” Makes me think they may have estimated low at 5%;)

      • 73 Jan
        June 16, 2010 at 9:11 pm

        No darling not even close

  7. June 16, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    OMG, I really don’t know what to think.

    1) CrispyEric: at first I thought Eric meets the sun, sort of like he does in Book7 during the bombing in Rhodes. And Godric appears in a vision, while (I hope) Sookie rescues him and gives him her blood to heal. But the wounds are only on his face and hands, so what? Maybe SVB is right and it is an “alternate reality” or dream or vision or hallucination in which Eric ACTUALLY burns out with Godric (maybe Sookie’s dream even).
    But Russell sunburnt too would make no sense if this was the case. IDK.
    But if THIS will be the cliffhanger for season four (an almost burnt Eric) I will go commit suicide because there’s no fucking way I’ll wait another 9 months to see what happens! 🙂

    SVB, maybe we won’t have AE in the same way it is in the books but… we are going to have AE anyway (which makes me not very happy, honestly, I didn’t like the amnesia stuff very much in the books)

    2) QSA in a cage like a bird? WTF is going on? Are both Eric AND Sookie in NO in the last episodes?

    3) Still don’t know it’s Eric or Bill. He seems to have hair on his chest and sideburns and now he looks like Bill to me. Definitely.

    • June 16, 2010 at 12:13 pm

      When I blew up the pics I couldn’t tell if the sideburns and chesthair were that, or blood.

      And the angle of the jawline/shape of head looks alot more like AS than SM…again, when enlarged.

      Ugh I don’t know. *head explodes*

      • June 16, 2010 at 12:14 pm

        The other thing, AS has tubes and tape and stuff on his arms – that stuff won’t be visible in the final cut, so he HAD to have filmed in sleeves.

      • 77 SusanMy
        June 16, 2010 at 12:44 pm

        Hmmm. That really looks like Bill to me down there on the floor. I can’t blow up the shot, but, even in the foreground, the guy in the pic just looks too small and wee (in comparison to the rug, the table, and the woman) to be Eric. Also, the chest hair is too dark. I could barely see AS’s chest hair in the DOD scene, and there was more light on him in that scene than there is on *whoever* in this scene. Oh, and that definitely looks like a sideburn creeping down his face, rather than blood.

        As for the rest of the pics, I have no idea what’s happening, but the sights of QSA in a cage and Godric anywhere make me happy!

        • June 16, 2010 at 12:47 pm

          You guy’s will have to trust me LOL. When I first saw these I also swore up and down it was Bill. But then I blew them up HUGE and and I really can’t say it is.

          • 79 millarca21
            June 16, 2010 at 1:50 pm

            I blew them up huge too, and the features and sideburns look like Bill to me. But if it’s not Bill it’s definitely not Eric, IMO, and if it’s not Eric I don’t care too much who it is.

            • 80 ChelleInOz
              June 18, 2010 at 9:13 am

              I haven’t been able to figure out how to blow them up (I am hopeless and I work in an IT team!), but when I was trying to blow the image up my intention was to look for chest hair. I know there’s lots of blood etc, but thats what I was looking at. AS doesn’t have much chest hair but Bill does…..wondering if there is a clue there (not that I can really see whats what in that pic as it is)

        • 81 Lotus
          June 16, 2010 at 12:47 pm

          Looks like Bill to me, too. And that cage QSA is in could be silver. Maybe that’s a way to contain her until the Magister comes, because it looks like they are next to the pool at her palace. Or, she could be a complete bird lady freak! 🙂

          • 82 Robin
            June 16, 2010 at 1:41 pm

            It would make more sense if it was Bill being tortured because it would fall in line with the story in Club Dead. Maybe the storyline will stay closer to the book and Bill lose control and attack Sookie after he has been drained, a scene which will be in direct contrast to the scene with Olivia after he was drained by the Weres in the first episode. AS did not seem to have much hair, if any at all, on his chest in the DOD scene.

    • 84 Freyja
      June 16, 2010 at 12:20 pm

      1) What a horrible cliffhanger for us, how are we suppose to make it through 9 months with this hanging above our heads??? I saw one picture that looks like a stunt actress for Sookie/AP, same hair/ponytail, shorts and shoes. So what’s happening there if a stuntperson is needed?
      I’m with you on AE, Hime. Although I loved the book, I just didn’t like that he had to loose his memory to get closer to Sookie.
      2) A silvercage? Must be. Could this be a punishment for V selling?
      3) I think it’s Bill in the picture, the dark chesthair and sideburns.

  8. 85 MASpencer
    June 16, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    Umm… and are we noticing the ace bandages and plastic wristband? Are those part of the costume?

    • 86 Serena
      June 16, 2010 at 12:18 pm

      I think those are just to keep the tube in place.. he must be wearing a shirt or jacket over this ensemble,.. but whats the contraption for? blood spray?

    • June 16, 2010 at 12:19 pm

      That’s what I mean! I clarified that further down.

      They’re usually for fake blood or whatever. You have to assume that he was shooting in sleeves – he’s just got his shirt off between takes.

      • 92 Freyja
        June 16, 2010 at 12:21 pm

        yeah, that’s what I was thinking too.

      • 93 obladee
        June 16, 2010 at 2:48 pm

        See now my first thought was that the tubing might be some sort of contraption to allow them to create the flames on Eric like when Godric met the sun… not that I think flames are going to come out of those tubes, but maybe something that they can later change on a computer to look like flames. IDK. I’m soooo confused.

        And BTW, I didn’t hesitate a split second when I saw more spoilers! 😉 Thanks for posting SVB!

  9. 95 Lori
    June 16, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    So happy Eric is with Hadley, this has to mean what I think it means surely.

  10. June 16, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    In the other photos at spoiler tv there’s Moyer with a girl who looks a lot like Anna Paquin and could be her stuntwoman. So maybe Sookie is there too.

    • 97 Lori
      June 16, 2010 at 12:26 pm

      There is a spoiler about a Eric/Sookie/Russell/Talbot scene

    • 98 MASpencer
      June 16, 2010 at 12:35 pm

      It looks like that random dude could be Alexander Skarsgard’s stunt double, too– in which case, it would be a tip-off as to the shirt he’ll be wearing in the scene, which IS NOT the same getup as the rooftop scene. Also, I’m betting Sookie will be in the scene, due to the other stunt double’s presence (who is dressed in Jason’s Bon Temps football shirt). I suspect shit will be blown up here, since I think I heard that Anna Paquin prefers to do her own stunts when she can. Obviously, fire and shrapnel is a dealbreaker.

      Again, I’ll bet Godric shows up in some near-death experience, or it turns out that Sookie can communicate with the dead or what have you.

      Also, Stephen Moyer is in his own streetwear, so he’s obviously not in this scene at all.

      • 99 MASpencer
        June 16, 2010 at 12:38 pm

        And can I just add that those clothes don’t look very Eric-like? I mean, cargo pants? Too sporty in the NOT-Adidas-Eurotrash way. Makes me wonder if we won’t be getting the amnesia bit a tad early… and if those aren’t BORROWED clothes.

        • 100 MASpencer
          June 16, 2010 at 12:41 pm

          Of course, that guy COULD just be a character who hasn’t been introduced… and Alexander Skarsgard’s outfit may NOT be the one he’s wearing in his scene.

          But I’m going to say it IS, since Alan Hyde is in full wardrobe.

      • June 16, 2010 at 12:39 pm

        So Jason, Sookie and Eric are in an explosion…. Oh Shit!!! Maybe it’s the ‘Real Bullet-sucking Scene’???? yeah yeah i know different clothes… just grasping at straws

      • 106 Freyja
        June 16, 2010 at 12:40 pm

        Yes I noticed that SM was not in his ‘gear’, where ever could Bill be at this moment hhhmmm :/

      • June 16, 2010 at 12:41 pm

        But if Godric is part of a near death experience that wouldn’t be filmed at the same time as action scenes…you wouldn’t think.

        And do you really think Eric would be caught undead wearing anything like that getup dude is wearing? Look at his PANTS LOLZ http://spoilertv.iimmgg.com/image/93207847d93309c5cdd6db18fee9f273

        I agree it’s AS’ stunt double but I don’t think they wear exactly the same outfits. Can’t see Sookie in that getup the chick is wearing either. Looks more like something AP would wear on her day off LOL.

        • 108 MASpencer
          June 16, 2010 at 12:45 pm

          But SVB, it’s a (Jason-sized) Bon Temps Football shirt paired with signature Stackhouse booty shorts! I really do think they’re in costume… or this whole thing is just willful misdirection.

          • June 16, 2010 at 12:49 pm

            You are seriously telling me that you think Eric would wear this guys outfit? LOOK AT HIS SHOES!

            NO! I NO BUY!


            • 110 Freyja
              June 16, 2010 at 12:52 pm

              Maybe he’s not in his wardrobe yet.

            • 111 MASpencer
              June 16, 2010 at 12:52 pm

              LOL. I know, I know! I’m just saying that if Anna Paquin’s double is in HER costume– and I’m pretty sure she is– it stands to reason that Alexander Skarsgard’s double would be in HIS.

              But I might be wrong about the whole double thing anyway! So… don’t alert the fashion police just yet. 😉

            • 112 MASpencer
              June 16, 2010 at 1:02 pm

              So I looked closer at some of the (mostly) full-length shots of AS, and while his position is such that I can’t get a good look, I’m thinking that they’re NOT wearing the same pants.

              Thankfully. Because Eric in cargo pants is a no-no.

              But, the top half might still be the same. There are tears and whatnot on his tank top in the photos, so it’s obviously part of his costume– there will just be ANOTHER shirt over top of it. Much like this (stunt double?) guy is wearing.

            • 119 Kathy
              June 16, 2010 at 2:11 pm

              Like I said above they could be their stand ins. Stand ins don’t wear the exact costume as the lead actor, but something similar in color tone and shape. Alex is wearing pants that are cargo-y, but trendy, with that number embroidered on the back.

        • 121 MASpencer
          June 16, 2010 at 12:51 pm

          And re:Godric, I think it could be the case that Eric has a vision of him walking toward him through the fire, or after the explosion, or that kind of thing. So, not actually in the MIDDLE of the action, but directly following…

  11. 129 Barbara E
    June 16, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    Bill’s torture scene in MS that Sookie is to rescue him from? And instead of Sookie killing Lorena … she somehow frees Bill and Bill does the deed. *shrugs*

    Here we just had the first episode of the season and already we’re getting season finale pics and spoilers! True Blood meets Doctor Who cause it’s all a timey wimey thingy! =D hehehe

    Ok, am running late and have an appointment to get too …. Thank you for this lovely torture so early in the morning. A good way to start off Hump Day Wednesday. =D

  12. 130 Mony
    June 16, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Ok…here i am to comment these pics…
    i have few day to think about it and i’m telling you this:

    1-Eric with Hadley seems very interesting to let Eric knows exactly what the Queen and Bill were doing behind him and Sookie….finally!

    2-I till think it’s Eric gtortured…becouse of the shoes and the fact that he’s tall and big and the girls seems Debbie….they probably give him the tortures that Bill had in the books…except the car scene….i hope!…but i’m pretty sure it’s in this way..

    3-Eric burned….after seen Fangtasia with all the writing against vamps i guess Steve Newlin makes his move and maybe does the same thing as Luke…or something like that….
    Maybe Eric is just burned becouse of this and even Russel could be at Fangtasia for some politics issues…
    In another pic there is Moyer with a blond girl dressed like Sookie and i think is just the stunt woman for Anna…

    -Godric could probably appears in a kind of visione exactly as Claudine for Sookie in a very near death situation..

    We’re defenitly going to have AE but maybe in a different way…seen him running to Sookie i would love it but it’s to easy…i’ts something that everybody already thought so i don’t think AB is goind in this direction….

    we just have to wait…a thing in which i’m not good!

    • June 16, 2010 at 1:00 pm

      I’m not seeing this being at Fangtasia because Russell is there and it’s during the day.

      I’m not getting that Eric would be letting Russell play sleepovers at Fangtasia for ANYTHING. Or that Russell would trust Eric an inch by the finale to even contemplate spending 12 hours dead in Fangtasia.

      And I’m not seeing a bomb, explosion or anything like that because both Russell and Eric are only burnt on their exposed skin. Their clothing isn’t damaged at all (granted Russell doesn’t appear to be in costume but I think Eric is). Something has forced them out into daylight.

      Argumentative today aren’t I?!

      • 132 MASpencer
        June 16, 2010 at 1:05 pm

        But then, where is it? There’s pavement around, so they’re not in the country…

      • June 16, 2010 at 1:06 pm

        Hmmm…I guess a bomb could force them out into daylight huh.

        I’m not thinking straight. Time for bed!!

        • 138 MASpencer
          June 16, 2010 at 1:13 pm

          Also, this could be a nighttime scene filmed during the day, which they will adjust in the editing room to look darker. I heard that’s what they did with the junkyard tribunal, so… it’s possible!

          • 139 Mony
            June 16, 2010 at 1:21 pm

            yes…that’s what i was thinking….it’s a kind of book 7 in Rhodes but adapted in season 3….but who knows???
            yeah the tribunal wsa filmes during the day….
            it’s quite hard to tell since we are just at episode 1!!!God i dont’ kow why they let this photos out…well actually i know it’s just marketing….but it’s hard to see Eric in this way not knowing whate the hell is going on!!!!!

        • 140 Serena
          June 16, 2010 at 1:16 pm

          Nite SVB, .. maybe they really do both have amnesia, and they get it together at the same time. Lol, I’m a firm believer in the AR theory, I do have a tendency to not let things go.

          • 141 Serena
            June 16, 2010 at 1:25 pm

            Uh, I also meant to say maybe they forget more than book AE, they forget they are vampires too, at least at first. IDK, but its a possibility.

            • 142 Dee
              June 16, 2010 at 7:31 pm

              RE scars seems so different though, one big mark on his lower cheek looks like some circle object imprinted right on his skin and his scars are so few in comparison. This is what confuses me and if Eric or RE were exposed to the sun it would cover more of their face, well their entire face.

              I guess Eric had good reason to write up that will. I think this might be more of an Eric/ Russell showdown. They said Eric’s revenge plot would slowly unfold throughout the season so I think towards the end is when Eric finally gets his revenge. I don’t think they’d just be hanging out together towards end of season. RE is missing in ep 10, so if this is after that then maybe RE comes after Eric or Eric goes on the search for RE.

              • 143 Dee
                June 16, 2010 at 7:34 pm

                Maybe a meth lab explosion? didn’t someone mention something about that? Or am I imagining things, I know there is a drug raid in ep 12. I would hope for a bigger reason though that we see Eric and RE in this condition. Unless the final showdown happens with them sometime around the raid.

                • June 16, 2010 at 8:58 pm

                  Pfft knowing Ball we’re going to find out there’s a freaking meth lab in Fangtasia’s basement.

                  • June 16, 2010 at 9:04 pm

                    and Eric had been cooking away for 6 hours, Yvetta’s post orgasmic attitude is that she’s actually high as a kite lol

                  • 146 Dee
                    June 16, 2010 at 9:17 pm

                    The meth lab involved Hot shot community though, right? So I don’t see how Eric and RE would be any way involved in that or even why they would be there period but who the hell knows what direction they’re going in.

                    • 147 sunnynala
                      June 16, 2010 at 9:24 pm

                      I would not be surprised to learn QSA is manufacturing meth. She needs money and meth is a hot commodity.

                    • 148 LLE
                      June 16, 2010 at 9:24 pm

                      I doubt it going to be the Hot Shot meth lab at all for the police raid. It could be the vampire blood that the police are after. Vampire blood does make victims act crazy and it is a drug.

                    • 149 Dee
                      June 16, 2010 at 10:48 pm

                      Oh I hope its the V that involved the drug raid, especially for the finale. Somebody else mentioned this, personally I didn’t know about hot shot and meth dealing but I guess there was some mention of it somewhere.

                    • June 16, 2010 at 11:24 pm

                      Sorry I was being sarcastic LOL. I wish I had proper emoticons on this thing! 😉

                    • 151 Dee
                      June 16, 2010 at 11:37 pm

                      SVB oh i knew you were being sarcastic haha, and let’s hope there are no meth labs in fangtasia. I was responding to LLE about the raid still being about the V

  13. 152 Serena
    June 16, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    On QSA in the cage, it just occurred to me its made out of silver, no? And then there does seem to be a giant padlock on the other side,.. so I don’t think she is in there by choice, despite her crazy.

  14. 154 t.rece.
    June 16, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    Hey ladies…its been too long. I couldn’t help but check this out. Am I the only one that finds Eric’s wounds similar to what a mesh silver net would inflict? Admittedly I’m looking w my Droid on my way to work–not a full screen–but that was my first thought. With the blackhawks winning I was WAY to crazy to start watching TB so in context to what other spoilers r out there I could be way off. The burnt senerio didn’t cross my mind til u guys pointed it out. I must be slipping!

    • June 16, 2010 at 1:11 pm

      Well hello you! I missed you! Welcome back 🙂

      Maybe…but on a few of a pics you can see blackened areas of skin. Though I guess silver burns doesn’t it? And sends them all gooey.

    • 156 MASpencer
      June 16, 2010 at 1:12 pm

      Not patterned enough for a net, I don’t think. But it’s definitely not just sunlight– neither is charred enough. Looks like fire and shrapnel wounds to me.

  15. 159 millarca21
    June 16, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    Clearly I am still in shock, since I have been rendered unable to deal with this technology, and prematurely pushed the wrong button. I will try again:

    Two thoughts:

    1. Perhaps whatever has been happening to Eric has been so disturbing it has had him wishing he had indeed met the sun with Godric, who is wearing his rooftop gear, and we see Eric’s visions of how he envisaged he would burn up and crispify………..like Spike in the cavern, burning from the inside out – those tubes seem designed to provide fuel for some fancy special effects;


    2. Eric has been partially crispified by something or other, probably involving an explosion, and rendered unconscious with associated retrograde amnesia, and the experience was so traumatic it involved him having visions of his maker’s final death while he was contemplating and expecting his own, and after this experience he has forgotten who he is and needs one on one care from some special person …………………………………………

    • 160 KPMRSE
      June 16, 2010 at 1:38 pm

      I’m completely in agreement for #2. They need to set the stage for AE. An over the top tramatic experience – one where he wishes he would just “meets his maker” sort to speak, is definitely a way to do that.

  16. 161 LydiaB
    June 16, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    Holy crap. Is Eric so hurt that he starts hallucinating?! 😦

  17. June 16, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Hey all,

    Glad you enjoyed the photos and thanks for linking back.


  18. 165 LydiaB
    June 16, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    You guys are always seeing things with his hair, lol. It’s NOT any lighter, he’s just in the sun. Your brain is playing tricks with you or something.

    • 166 Liz
      June 16, 2010 at 9:14 pm

      yes, i think he said somewhere that his hair appears darker from all the gel they used to style it

    • 167 sunnynala
      June 16, 2010 at 9:21 pm

      I’ve seen plenty of pics of Alex in the full sun walking around LA. His hair has been DARK with no evident highlighting. But in this pic you can clearly see the very light highlighting over his forehead.

      • June 16, 2010 at 9:28 pm

        When i first saw that pic i thought the front bits of his hair might have been fake because they seemed lighter and didn’t really seem to blend well with the rest.

      • June 16, 2010 at 11:27 pm

        I agree Sunny. I’ve been stalking AS’ hair for months as you all well know…and yes, there are lots of pics of him out in full sunlight over the last few months and no hint of blond, let alone what we see in the front here.

        It’s back to it’s natural colour now, albeit without the really strong highlights it had in S2.

        I think the hair was definitely dyed dark for at least the first half of s3, and MAS theory about the Gestapo hair is starting to make more sense to me now.

  19. June 16, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    So looking more closely at these – the marks around his wrist. Silver restraints?

    • 171 Serena
      June 16, 2010 at 1:52 pm

      Yeah that’s what I thought too, but its only on one wrist, where the skin has pulled away.. maybe he’s supposed to be attached to something to make him stay put. or someone?

    • 172 Mony
      June 16, 2010 at 1:52 pm

      soooo…the one actually tortured seems Eric and maybe someone rescue him in daylight?
      we are only at episode 1 i can’t belive that i’m making theories about the finale! LOL

    • 173 millarca21
      June 16, 2010 at 1:56 pm

      Silver restraints binding his hands together, perhaps, so he couldn’t escape the conflagration which threatened to engulf him and send him to his final death…………until Sookie rescued him and took him away to look after him and give him her blood so he can recover his strength and his memory. 😀

  20. 174 jaded3
    June 16, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    May be this ties back into the S3 promos where we see the man we think might be Talbot on fire. IMO the tortured man on the floor is Bill. He is wearing the same pants and boots that her wore when you see him entering Olivia’s house and the sideburns are too long for Eric. I’m not jumping to any conclusions for S4 but if Eric gets the rape scene instead of Bill, I will cancel HBO on the spot.

    • 175 Kathy
      June 16, 2010 at 2:31 pm

      I think we’re of one mind here. Eric rapes Sookie. I’m out!

      • June 16, 2010 at 2:42 pm

        Eric raping Sookie would make no sense at all, IMHO.

        • 177 Mony
          June 16, 2010 at 2:49 pm

          i dont think that the intense scene between S/E is a kind of rape…Alexander wouldn’t be proud to tell that the interest for Sookie is much more than sex or becouse of the blood….maybe the intense scene is Eric healing her with his blood or Sookie healing him….or both!!!!
          but the rape scene i don’t think Ball has suicidal tendences becouse that will mean only that True Blood will lose 70% of his fans…..

          • 178 Lori
            June 16, 2010 at 3:30 pm

            I honestly can’t see them doing that, it’s totally against Eric’s character, moreso than any other crap they’ve pulled so far with him, plus it would pretty much rule out any hook up with them in the future. Nope I’m with you, the intense scene relates to one healing the other. That scene in book 3 is perfect why fuck with it *slaps head* wait this is AB were talking about.

            • 179 Mony
              June 16, 2010 at 4:03 pm

              i think there is A LOT we don’t know of course..so they just wanted us to get insane…and i admit they are good in this….

            • 180 Robin
              June 17, 2010 at 3:00 am

              My prediction of the intense scene is going to be Eric giving Sookie a blood healing at Russell’s mansion, episode 6. Later, Eric will have to take Sookie to the hospital after she is attacked and drained by Bill because he will not be able to give her any more blood for fear of her being turned.

              • 181 anna
                June 20, 2010 at 4:14 pm

                Unfortunately it looks as if AB may be arrogant enough to think that he can do want he wants with Eric’s character and get away with it.
                After all who reads books these days?

                Script writers often introduce scenes during a series to try to sway audiences to their own point of view if they feel that the audience is not playing ball (no pun intended).

                Does anyone remember how in Buffy the writers made Spike attempt to rape Buffy because a lot of the audience didn’t read Spike as the Big Bad?

                • 182 Millarca
                  June 20, 2010 at 10:07 pm

                  Oh my word, yes! I can never forget what the Buffy writers did to Spike, who was the reason I was still watching BtVS then. And that is why I am very fearful of what the TB writers are going to do to Eric. I trust AB as much as I trusted Joss Whedon and Marti Noxon.

                  • 183 legalease
                    June 20, 2010 at 11:02 pm

                    Joss Whedon and Ron Moore are two big reasons why I do not trust show runners and writers. If the audience loves Eric too much or doesn’t love Bill enough, I have no doubt that AB would do whatever it takes to manipulate the audience to his way of thinking. I’m trying to enjoy the show and what I see onscreen and believe in where I think the story is heading, but I will never have complete faith in TPTB. And add me to the list of those who will stop watching if they have Eric attack Sookie. I’ve been down that road as a Spike fan and I am not going there again. Life is too short to get stressed out over a TV show.

                    • June 20, 2010 at 11:11 pm

                      Ha! Ball can try all he likes to turn me to the dark side. The only thing he’ll ever succeed in doing is getting me to turn my TV off.

                      But I get where you’re coming from, they do this all the time and I think it’s a reasonable fear to have.

                      I’ve heard some spoilery mumblings about episode 6 and it doesn’t sound like things are going to play out like the books. I don’t know specifics but I know enough to be concerned about where they might take it.

                    • 185 legalease
                      June 20, 2010 at 11:35 pm

                      Yes, I refuse to be punished by the writers for loving a character whom the writers themselves gleefully exploit in order to attract a larger audience. If the show ends up being the Bill/Sookie fan fiction that some Bill fans think it is, I will simply stop watching. I really don’t think that is where the show is heading, but based on past experiences with other shows, a small part of me will always fear what AB may do to Eric.

                      I’m not surprised about episode 6. I’ve been a little anxious since the episode description was released. I think the spurning will involve Eric choosing his vengeance over helping Sookie, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he is indirectly involved in her getting injured. All of the characters will have darker moments this season, and Eric’s could very well occur in this episode. If it’s really bad, would there be any way to warn us ahead of time? I know the whole spoiler thing can be sensitive, so maybe we can develop a code word? Like “FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT WATCH THIS EPISODE!” 😉

                    • 186 Millarca
                      June 20, 2010 at 11:49 pm

                      I, too, suffered over Spike, and I won’t go there again. At least in this fandom we have the advantage of being able to fall back on the books if it gets so bad that we decide to stop watching TB. The books are the canon, after all.

    • 187 LydiaB
      June 16, 2010 at 2:43 pm

      I think trying to fit this stuff into specific book scenarios would never work.

    • June 16, 2010 at 9:23 pm

      it’s been confirmed further down in the post that it is Lorena on fire.

  21. 189 CAT
    June 16, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    It looks like Alex is also rigged to fly.
    I think it’s likely that Godric is in these scenes as a flashback.

  22. June 16, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    I’m not convinced yet that Eric is being tortured, but I do think that set is the same one AS was sitting in during the preshow thingy.

  23. 194 HelenaHandbasket
    June 16, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    I am pretty darn sure thats BILL laying on the floor with either Lorena or Debbie.
    I think the pants and boots are purposely misleading.
    The sideburns and the chesthair tell me one thing for sure….It’s not Eric.
    I’m not so dure the word ‘finale’ written on the bottom of these spoiler pics are from the finale. The WWII flashback scenes with Eric & Godric are in episode 2, so it won’t be long now until we may get a few answers.

  24. 195 sunnynala
    June 16, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    The make-up on RE and Eric do not look like burns to me, they look like injuries from flying shrapnel.

    check out Moyers’ ‘crispy’ make-up at The Vault–True Blood Behind the Scenes: Burning Bill full body makeup.

    I think Eric might be having a near-death experience and sees Godric.

    Eric’s hair is def back to being highlighted. It’s VERY blonde at the top. MUCH blonder than it is in ep 3.01.

    • June 16, 2010 at 3:15 pm

      Sunny, Eric and certainly RE would burn like Godric, not smolder like Bill. Compare the rosettes on RE’s face with Sookie’s dream of Bill burning up in the kitchen.

      • 197 sunnynala
        June 16, 2010 at 3:32 pm

        Perhaps, but since older vamps burn more quickly wouldn’t RE and Eric be dead before burn injuries occurred to this extent? These injuries seem counterintuitive to burning, they seem like cuts and gouging.

        • June 16, 2010 at 3:42 pm

          IDK. For Eric I would expect something between what happened to Bill and Godric, but RE is older than Godric. His wounds are much less severe than Eric’s but definitely not what we saw with Godric. I’m stumped. They look exactly like what happened to Bill in Sookie’s dream before she knew how vampires really burned.

        • 199 Yoland
          June 16, 2010 at 3:47 pm

          And Russell is even older than Godric. So it would reason that he’d go poof in even the littlest bit of sun? Before he had time to get those blisters?

        • 201 Kathy
          June 16, 2010 at 5:23 pm

          I just think it’s inconsistancies in the writing. I maintain what I’ve always maintained, that they write what they want to write and never go back to see if it’s consistant. I know you guys think Alan is brilliant and everything that’s done has a meaning, but I just don’t think that’s so. The writers will put down what ever will serve the story as opposed to writing around what they’ve already laid down.

          Really, if you think about it, what would make more sense is the older the vampire the longer it takes to burn. They’ve built up a resistance. But it was more dramatic for Bill to crisp up and Godric to burst into flame. And if Eric and Russell are fighting it will be more dramatic for them to burn slowly. JMHO.

          It seems to me the writers don’t even have charaacter bibles. Something every series has even animated series. For instance, Kristen said in an interview that she had no idea Pam was bi. She and Aubry were reading the books over the last break, he got ahead of her and asked her if she knew Pam was bi. Which means in all her previous scenes, even though they were small, she didn’t have this fact which would color everything she did, whether it was about sex or not. I read the other actors say it as well, that they’re always surprised about what happend to their characters when they get a flash-back script. That just makes me crazy!!! It makes perfect sense not to know the future of the character but not be fully inform of the past?

          All right off my soap box!

          • 202 LLE
            June 16, 2010 at 5:53 pm

            Good Post and I agree with you.

            • 203 Kathy
              June 16, 2010 at 6:07 pm

              Thanks! 🙂

            • 204 Kathy
              June 16, 2010 at 6:11 pm

              I’m an actress and I just don’t know how you would know how to play anything if you didn’t have the pertinant parts of your history. I know film is different, but you still need a fully realized character.

          • 206 Jo
            June 16, 2010 at 6:09 pm

            I agree with you too, they write what they should and not worry about consistency and continuity.

          • 207 sunnynala
            June 16, 2010 at 6:13 pm


            But it was more dramatic for Bill to crisp up and Godric to burst into flame.

            It also served another pupose: the fact that Bill knew he would die immediately when he ran into the sun to ‘save’ Sookie. He told her in IWRU–“If I don’t stay long I can heal”. He didn’t just suddenly realize this, he knew it when he did his infamous Walk of Crisp.

            • 208 sunnynala
              June 16, 2010 at 6:14 pm

              **would NOT die immediately.

              • 209 Kathy
                June 16, 2010 at 6:21 pm

                Right. That was convenient for the story. Godric bursting into flame ,convenient. Of course we don’t know if Eric & Russell are suffering “sun burns,” but if they are it’s inconsistant with what the writeres have established. Russell should be gone in a blink, Eric should be in worse shape than Bill was. But that wouldn’t serve the script if they’re fighting and they both have to survive. So, they change what they’ve established to make it fit.

                • June 16, 2010 at 6:27 pm

                  I wonder whether they are maybe in the shade, so still some exposure to sunlight but not direct bright contact? Maybe this tan they are sporting?

                • 211 sunnynala
                  June 16, 2010 at 6:29 pm

                  This is why I do not think either one of them is burned, I think they are injured from bomb shrapnel or something similar. The injuries look like cuts and gouges, not burns. To me, at least.

                  • June 16, 2010 at 6:56 pm

                    Yeah surely if they were burns they would be sort of blanketing the area unless it was an overcast day with sunny spells lol

                    The ones on RE look weird compared to Eric right? Or is it just me?

                  • June 16, 2010 at 6:58 pm

                    Ooo Ooo, what if the lines on Eric’s face are from a silver knife, it looks like he was in silver restraints right? Maybe someone got knife happy and then something else happened to give him the overall crispy effect. Would explain why his face looks so much more messed up the RE’s, maybe he was wielding the knife.

                  • 214 Ziggy
                    June 17, 2010 at 12:53 am

                    I tend to agree with you on this. It’s been a few months since I’ve watched season 1, but crispy Bill seemed to have a more ‘even’ burning on his face. There didn’t seem to be the deep gauges we can see on Eric. The marks on Eric’s wrist are a little perplexing though. If it was simply bomb shrapnel, then I don’t think we’d see the circular shape around his wrist; it would just be random cuts. Maybe he was restrained before the blast, and he was either rescued/escaped before he was killed. Oh I don’t know!

            • 215 LLE
              June 16, 2010 at 6:35 pm

              This is season 3 and lot of stuff they wrote on season 1 they have forgotten or it does not fit the story. Writers do forget the history of the show and write what effect the story they are doing now.

          • 216 LydiaB
            June 16, 2010 at 6:27 pm

            I don’t think that’s how it is at all, but oh well.

            • 217 Kathy
              June 16, 2010 at 6:37 pm

              I have a HUGE example of this that I keep writing about because it bugs the heck out of me! LOL!

              S1E2: Night after the Rattrays are killed, Sookie at their trailer, Bud her his cousin took care of Mack in the emergency room the night before and he was beat up. (Well THAT can’t be, Mack was killed the night before).

              S2E11: Eric says to Bill (I’m paraphrasing) “You fed Sookie your blood the very night you met her.” (Well, THAT can’t be either. The Rattray’s beat up Sookie the second night.)

              Now does it make any difference to the future of the series. No. But it’s a HUGE writing gaff. And even if I could excuse the second one because it was way at the end of the second season, the first one was the episode right after!How could you not notice it in filming?

              This is what I mean about inconsistancies and being sloppy. It’s not a visual continueity gaff, which frankly is awful, but understandable to some degree. It’s in the writing! Did no one person read both of the scripts?

              • 218 sunnynala
                June 16, 2010 at 7:14 pm

                S1E2: Night after the Rattrays are killed, Sookie at their trailer, Bud her his cousin took care of Mack in the emergency room the night before and he was beat up. (Well THAT can’t be, Mack was killed the night before).

                As you know, I theorize that Mack was NOT killed that night. I believe he DID go to the ER and Bud was right. Somebody drove the Ratts car away from the scene and it couldn’t have been Bill, who was busy healing Sookie, and I doubt it was Sam or he would have said something.

                S2E11: Eric says to Bill (I’m paraphrasing) “You fed Sookie your blood the very night you met her.” (Well, THAT can’t be either. The Rattray’s beat up Sookie the second night.)

                This is obviously a case of Eric receiving erroneous second-hand info from his source, whoever that might be. It’s just like when Gran got the news of the ‘tornado’ from Everlee Mason, who said the Ratt’s trailer was ‘overturned’ when it was not.

                Now does it make any difference to the future of the series. No. But it’s a HUGE writing gaff.

                Yes it does make a difference in the future of the series if they plan to revisit the whole Ratt situation and Bill’s part in it, and I DEFINITELY believe they will.

                • 219 sunnynala
                  June 16, 2010 at 7:15 pm

                  **I theorize that Mack was NOT killed that night.>>> IN THE PARKING LOT. I think Bill killed them later at the trailer in cold blood.

                  • 220 Kathy
                    June 16, 2010 at 7:50 pm

                    I know you don’t think Mack was dead, and like I’ve said, I’d love to see the show be that complicated but as of right now, for all we know, it’s not. Because you pointed that aspect of it out I’ve watched that particular scene over and over and it blood was running not only out of Mack’s mouth but out of his ear where Bill hit him so damn hard that and it looked to me that he snapped his neck. But that’s just my perspective.

                    Hopefully Alan will start revealing all these things he’s tricked us with, but if he doesn’t start revealing them in the next few episodes, I have to go with what you see, unless a character has a personal secret, and those have been broadcast very broadly so far, is what you get.

                    PS: I love all your conspiracy theories Sunny, I do, I just have to start seeing them play out before I start to believe them.

                    • 221 sunnynala
                      June 16, 2010 at 7:59 pm

                      PS: I love all your conspiracy theories Sunny, I do, I just have to start seeing them play out before I start to believe them.

                      I get that, and surprisingly, I agree. We’re going to have to get some sort of confirmation soon, no matter how subtle (and it will most likely have to be subtle just to keep the BL’s happy while the rest of us deal with ‘realities’ hehe)

                      Let me ask you this: What clues or hints would make you abandon your skepticism of these theories?

                      What if you found out that Bill actually DID murder Olivia and what we saw was Bill glamouring the audience? Would that do it? Or at least start the process?

                    • 222 Kathy
                      June 16, 2010 at 8:10 pm

                      Yes, if we saw that Bill actually killed Olivia, and knew that he did, that would be a start. But revealing Bill watched the Rattrays beat the crap out of Sookie wouldn’t.

                      What I need is to be shown that what we originally saw (and we don’t know where he was during the beating) was not what went down. Like I’d have to see a retread of the bullet sucking scene and be shown it actually went down differently to believe it was Bill’s perspective we were watching.

                    • 223 LLE
                      June 16, 2010 at 8:17 pm

                      Bill did not kill Olivia at all. When Bill was drinking her, he was checking her pulse to make sure she was alright. Bill told lies about Stanley but he did in good faith for lonely old lady who loves her son.

                      We really don’t know if Bill watch the Rattrey beat up Sookie. Bill could had told Sookie the truth of him being late. AB loves the shock treatment and to shock the fans. AB is not going to make Bill really bad character just grey.

                    • June 16, 2010 at 8:18 pm

                      The confirmation started Sunday night when Bill zoomed out of Olivia’s place and left the front door open. There was a nice loooong shot of that open door.

                    • 225 Kathy
                      June 16, 2010 at 8:27 pm

                      When I get home tonight I’ll go back and watch. I actually have to really watch the whole episode again. Without any distractions. That hasn’t happened yet. I watched like 3 times that night, but never without distractions.

                      Is it clear he knows she’s dead? That’s what I need. For him to have completely sucked her dry, heart stopped(and that would be a parallel to Jessica wouldn’t it, if indeed that is what happened.)

                      Here’s the thing. Subtle hints won’t do it for me. It has to be like the “Sixth Sense” where they go back and clearly show you what really happened. It has to be a reveal clear to everyone for me to be convinced.

                    • 226 sunnynala
                      June 16, 2010 at 8:56 pm


                      Yes, if we saw that Bill actually killed Olivia, and knew that he did, that would be a start. But revealing Bill watched the Rattrays beat the crap out of Sookie wouldn’t.

                      I’m not sure I follow. If we find out Bill watched the Ratts beat the crap out of Sookie, wouldn’t this call into question the entire sequence of events and how we the audiene perceived them at the time? On top of that, finding out Bill’s ‘heroic’ ‘rescue’ of Sookie from the Ratts was a sham would call into question his other, more dramatic rescue at the cemetery. Thus begins the fall of the house of cards…

                      What I need is to be shown that what we originally saw (and we don’t know where he was during the beating) was not what went down. Like I’d have to see a retread of the bullet sucking scene and be shown it actually went down differently to believe it was Bill’s perspective we were watching.

                      I’m not sure we’ll see a retread of the bullet sucking, per se. I think it will be alluded to–just like an E/S conversation at the nest right before the bombing was alluded to when Sookie demanded of Eric ‘tell me where to find Lorena’. She knew without doubt that Eric knew where to find her, and Bill didn’t tell Sookie that Eric called her in because then he would have to admit to Sookie that Eric wanted her so bad he would go to extreme lengths to get to her. I think Eric admitted he called Lorena when they talked at the nest. I also think we’ll get a symbolic recreation of the bullet sucking in the ‘want more?’ scene.

                      As for finding out Olivia was murdered by Bill, Renee already mentioned the long shot of the open door. A real gentleman would hardly rush out and leave the old lady–a sick old lady who lives in the middle of nowhere– to get up and close the door. For some reason, leaving it open just didn’t matter.

                      Otoh, I believe this will be the FIRST explicit confirmation of Bill’s faulty pov. The murder by vampire–for certainly the starving, stumbling Bill exsanguinated her– of a very sick, very frail, very old lady will surely make headlines across the country. It cannot fail that we will see news reports of the murder, as we’ve had casting spoilers for news anchors AND reporters who will be reporting on a ‘string’ of “animal” attacks, of which the trucker will be one. We see the hate grafitti on Fangtasia as well so we know the reports will piss off the public, and nothing can piss off the public like the murder of a poor and kindly old lady strapped to an oxygen tank.

                    • 227 LLE
                      June 16, 2010 at 9:38 pm

                      The old lady was alive when Bill left her.

                    • June 17, 2010 at 1:48 am


                      “’m not sure I follow. If we find out Bill watched the Ratts beat the crap out of Sookie, wouldn’t this call into question the entire sequence of events and how we the audiene perceived them at the time?”

                      No because we don’t know where he was when she was being beaten. Diane and the gang could have kept him, a number of things COULD have kept him from meeting her at the time planned. If they had showed us what was “keeping” Bill in the original episode, and now show us that’s not where he was, he was actually watching, THEN I’d say yes, it’s possible the whole fist two seasons were told from the perspective of an unreliable narrator (Bill).

                      In the scenario we saw, it’s possible Bill kept to the meeting time and saw the Ratts there in the parking lot. Seeing this as a great opportunity, he hid to see what would happen, when the Ratts started beating her, he waited until she was close to death before making himself known, fling in like Superman and saving Sookie. If THIS is what actually happened, then we weren’t shown anything false, one part of the scene was just omitted.

                      On the other hand, in “Bullet Sucking Scene” your theory is we saw one thing when something totally different took place. Different dialog, Sookie had a different attitude, etc. In this case, they would have to actually reveal to us that something totally different took place. Am I making any sense?

                      As far as Sookie asking Eric where Lorena is. Bill could have easily told her that Eric summoned her that night they spent together (Dream night). Or Sookie could just assume Eric being Eric would know where to find her since he seemed to know who she was when Bill was explaining to Sookie where he was while she and Eric were at the FOTS. Thus his comment about being close to one’s maker. I suppose Eric could have told her at the party, but I didn’t get the impression they were chatting alone together, Bill was there until he took Lorena out and by that time all their attention was on Luke.

                      The only way we’ll know if Olivia was killed is if her name is mentioned on the news or if it’s mentioned in passing (not pun intended). We’ll have to wait and see!

                    • 229 Kathy
                      June 17, 2010 at 2:08 am

                      Crapity crap crap1 Witchofbontemps is me. I keep forgetting to sign out!

                    • 230 Kathy
                      June 18, 2010 at 3:07 am

                      Okay, so I watched the eppy again and specifically paid attention to the Olivia scene. I really don’t think he killed her. He heard the wolf cry and flew out the back door (definitely not the front door) so fast that if he had closed the door he would have smashed it through the frame (just as I believe he snapped Mack’s neck that night by moving so fast and hitting Mack’s head with his hand as he flew by). In my view they left the door open with the curtains billowing to show how fast he ran out of there.

                  • June 16, 2010 at 8:10 pm

                    Sunny, the person who drove the Ratts to hospital was Hoyt. Jason tells Sookie when he drives up to the house that Hoyt went to get some weed, and Denise said only if he drives them. In this scene Sookie is in the bikini on the chaise.

                    • 232 Kathy
                      June 16, 2010 at 8:11 pm

                      On the first night.

                    • 233 sunnynala
                      June 16, 2010 at 9:02 pm

                      I’ll have to go back and watch again because that doesn’t make any sense. Why couldn’t Denise drive them? She drove away from Merlotte’s that first night, she could have just driven Mack right on to the ER. Sookie only hurt Mack that first night, by ‘magically’ wrapping the chain around his neck.

                      Only on the second night, when Denise was hurt as well, would they need a ride to the hospital.

                    • 234 Dee
                      June 16, 2010 at 11:13 pm

                      Sunny, the humans start going after vamps because of drained fangbangers showing up left and right. Stripper being one of them and im guessing it’s the one with Bill.

                      I can understand a scene where bill would watch sookie getting beat up because it doesn’t change what we saw, sookie got beat up and that’s it. Bill hiding in the bushes for example would just be something extra we didn’t see, same way that we know Claudine was there watching too when this happened, it was deleted bc they didn’t want to reveal this fact yet.

                      But I don’t know if they’ll go down the route of well what you saw didn’t happen that way at all.

                    • June 17, 2010 at 1:57 am

                      First episode, next day Jason pulls up in his truck and says “Why didn’t you tell me you beat up the Rattray’s last night?” He says Hoyt went to the Ratts to get some weed and Denise pulled up and told him she wouldn’t sell him weed until Hoyt took Mack to the hospital.

          • 236 Gigi
            June 16, 2010 at 6:58 pm

            Agreed, your completely right. They use concepts and the vampire mithology at their convenience. And they actually don’t care for their lack of consistency, because they’ve been making the same for 3 seasons. What in fact make me remember that I always have thought that Yvetta isn’t a werewolf or another kind of were-creature, because IF (we don’t know yet) Yvetta were indeed one of those in TB, then the vampires at TB are the most lame vampires I have ever seen -because they don’t have the keen sense of smell they are suppose to have. That, because even the magister, who must be a much more older vampire than Eric, refered to her as a Human.

            BTW, I’m not finding very original nor brilliant the use of the same “recycled” scenes and plot devices – like Bill drained, Sophie-Anne grabbing Eric’s face, crispy vamps, etc…

            • 237 LLE
              June 16, 2010 at 7:08 pm

              If Yvetta was were-wolf, vampires would not have a good smell. Yvetta is very human

              • 238 Mony
                June 16, 2010 at 8:48 pm

                i think Yvetta and the Magister work together…he is his spy in Area 5 for him…and the look he gave her jus make this more clear …for me of course!that’s even why she will have sexual relationship with Pam too….but that’s to sson to tell maybe

                • 239 LLE
                  June 16, 2010 at 8:53 pm

                  Yvetta will sleep with any vampires does not matter what sex they are. Yvetta is very small character and all she will do is dancing and having sex with a vampire. She does not know English at all. The Queen had eyes on her and looking for another sex partner.

                  The Magister does not care for humans and I doubt he would hired to be a spy.

                  • 240 Mony
                    June 16, 2010 at 9:41 pm

                    Yvetta will be al least in 6 episodes. her casting call was recently updated…she is even in episode 10 and 11…
                    so we’ll see…but she is not just a hott dancer..not at all…IMO

                    • 241 LLE
                      June 16, 2010 at 9:45 pm

                      The casting calls are not that reliable at all. Yvetta is part of the Eric’s staff.

                      Yvetta is a dancer and I doubt she will be talking much in any of these episodes.

            • June 16, 2010 at 9:09 pm

              I agree Gigi, I think Yvetta is a spy but I’m not so on board with the were theory.

              It would annoy me no end if they had Eric screwing a were for 6 hours and not realise it.

              But then, they’ve already proven they don’t mind writing Eric as slightly wet behind the ears – 1000 years old and knows nothing about maenads when 170 year old Bill DOES? Give me a fucking BREAK.

              So in a nutshell, nothing would surprise me at this point.

              • 243 LLE
                June 16, 2010 at 9:21 pm

                In the books Eric kill a maenads in Russia. We really don’t know if Eric screw Yvetta for six hours. It was not shown were Eric was when Bill was kidnapped.

                First scene Eric has he screwing Yvetta and Sookie walks in on them. Yvetta does not know much English to be a spy. The character is for someone to have sex with and not much more than that. The Queen has her eyes on her for sex.

                The Queen already mention to Eric that his office is bug and already knows everything said in his office.

                • 244 Mony
                  June 16, 2010 at 9:44 pm

                  About the Queen…i’m not sure she was telling the truth…for me she just said that becouse the Magister was there and she need to keep appearance good in front of him…
                  But Yvetta and the Magister by the way he look at her….seems to share something we don’t know yet…
                  Ybetta is in 5 or 6 episode including 10 and 11…..i don’t see at her just a hot dancer who screw everybody….she is defenitly much more than that.

                  • 245 LLE
                    June 16, 2010 at 9:48 pm

                    The Queen wanted to screw her and Eric was aware that the Queen had the eyes on her. Yvetta looked like she wanted to screw the Queen.

                    The casting call are not that reliable at all and I take grain of salt if they appear on them.

                    • 246 Mony
                      June 16, 2010 at 9:55 pm

                      maybe…that’s what HBO released about Yvetta characters, and she seems to have longer life that we thought at the beginning…and that’s mean something abiut her…
                      Of course The Queen wanted her….it’s the Maguster and he looks at her that made me sospicius…a lot actually….
                      so i’m still on the spy theory ’till something happen to make change my mind….

                • 247 legalease
                  June 16, 2010 at 10:11 pm

                  But just because Yvetta appeared to be this way in the first episode doesn’t mean that we won’t find out more about her later. If she is a spy, it would be in her best interests to appear to not know much English because others would be more likely to say things in front of her if they thought she didn’t understand them. I saw nothing in this episode that would rule out Yvetta later being revealed as a spy.

                  For the record, I think she’s a spy but not a supe. She may be a witch, but still human. Not ready to make any guesses on who it is that she’s spying for because it could be RE, QSA or the Magister at this point, LOL!

                  • 248 LLE
                    June 16, 2010 at 10:15 pm

                    Sure she can be a spy. We won’t find out until September.

                  • 249 Mony
                    June 16, 2010 at 10:19 pm

                    my same exactly thoughts!!
                    not a supe but a spy and not let Eric or Pam know much more about her especially let them think that she cannot understand english could be a good plan….

                    • 250 LLE
                      June 16, 2010 at 10:23 pm

                      Eric might aware of her being a spy not say much to her at all. Eric can glamor her to forget everything that she heard. Vampires have great hearing and they hear everything.

                    • 251 Mony
                      June 16, 2010 at 11:28 pm

                      and with Eric out in Jackson and Pam having even to deal with Lafayette and Jessica i really see Yvetta have all the time to spy on them….and the Magister in fact will foun a lot of blood at fangtasia….wich is strange since seems Lafayette to have ALL the blood….does someone put the bllos at Fangtasia on purpose?mmmmm…maybe….

                    • 252 Dee
                      June 17, 2010 at 1:53 am

                      She spoke english in the minisode though and understood when Eric spoke to her in English.

                • June 16, 2010 at 11:23 pm

                  Sorry LLE. We will agree to disagree.

                  Yvetta is a spy, totes. Leaving any plot speculation aside, she appears in too many episodes to be nothing but a fuck-bunny.

                  And yeah, I know Eric knew what a maenad is in the books – which is why it was so irritating that he had NFI on True Blood. Begs belief that a 1000 year old supe would be in the dark about the existence of another supernatural being. Total…Ballshit.

                  • 254 Mony
                    June 16, 2010 at 11:32 pm

                    and with Eric in Jackson, the V…there are a lot of moments where Yvetta can take a look around and find something interesting to report…i mean…as i wrote above, Lafayette seems to be the only one with the blood to seel…but then the Magister find some bottle sof blood and chain Pam….so what’s goin on here?
                    i don’t know….but something is up….and Yvetta at least for me, has to much air time to be only a dancer or a sex interest for both Pam and Eric…

                    • June 17, 2010 at 12:50 am

                      I agree, Serena. She was listening to their conversation by the door. That tells me that she has supernatural hearing and she isn’t working for the magister or SA.

                  • 256 pennydreadful
                    June 16, 2010 at 11:33 pm

                    svb- I agree, the only way Alan Ball could make Yvetta’s Mata Hari vibe more obvious would be to tattoo “Warning: Espionage Operative” on her forehead. The only real mystery is whose dirty work is she doing.

                    • 257 Mony
                      June 16, 2010 at 11:37 pm

                      i love the Mata Hari vibe….i dind’t catch it!XD

                    • 258 Jo
                      June 16, 2010 at 11:56 pm

                      I is also thought to Yvetta was just to “fuck”, but you’re right: but that is up to Eric and Pam, more idiots! drug he is the Sheriff, more powerful and old Queen’s Crazy! seriously he should be fired …
                      all that talk with Sookie, of course Yvetta reported it all! but I believe it works with the Magister

                    • June 17, 2010 at 12:04 am

                      That right there could be a reason why AB had Yvetta still in the DOD when that conversation took place, and flags the question the magister asks “are there any vampires missing in your area”

                    • June 17, 2010 at 12:25 am

                      You’re right. Especially given that the magister and the queens arrival is not until the following evening – giving Yvetta a full 24 hours to cough up her intel.

                    • 261 Serena
                      June 17, 2010 at 12:43 am

                      But if Yvetta were a rat for either of them, she’d been as cool as a cucumber, unless whomever she is working for is using the Magister to get to the Queen and she doesn’t know it… point is, I think there has to be a 4th party here that we don’t know about yet that Yvetta is working for. .

                  • 262 Serena
                    June 16, 2010 at 11:34 pm

                    I rewatched again, and not only does she stop dancing on the Queen’s entrance, but she has a little freak out moment, we don’t see her face exactly but she tries to turn away after she sees the Queen and the Magister but then decides to turn back in their direction instead. It is a total recognition moment, but which one is she reacting to?

                    • June 16, 2010 at 11:37 pm

                      My gut feeling is the Queen. She looks downright terrified. There is a screencap of it in MAS’s recap.

                    • 264 Dee
                      June 16, 2010 at 11:40 pm

                      Also, if you look in the background she stops dancing right away even when Eric is just greeting them. It’s almost as if she knows who they are or one of them is. I hope she is a spy for the Queen, that was one of my first theories and it will probably be my only theory that is right lol.

                      Is Eric gonna tell Pam that his office is bugged? If Pam knows then I wonder why she would have sex with Yvetta in the office, unless Eric forgets to mention it.

                    • 265 Dee
                      June 16, 2010 at 11:44 pm

                      Sorry Serena, I just noticed you already mentioned how she stopped dancing once they entered Fangtasia, and I repeated right under your comment that she did that lol.

                    • 266 Serena
                      June 16, 2010 at 11:50 pm

                      Oh, lolz Dee, I really meant to focus on after she stops dancing, she twists her body towards the throne and then back again towards the Queen.

                      I think she is a spy for Hallow or possibly a Copley Carmichael type, someone the Queen owes money to or someone who has it out for the Queen. I doubt Yvetta knows who the Magister is.

                    • June 16, 2010 at 11:56 pm

                      I agree Serena, and I still haven’t given up the idea that she may be connected to Hallow somehow either.

                    • 268 Dee
                      June 17, 2010 at 12:03 am

                      I agree Serena, I’m thinking it’s either QSA or Hallow who sent Yvetta. That’s if AB has Hallow put the spell on Eric, maybe he’ll twist it around and have someone else do it.

                    • June 17, 2010 at 12:52 am

                      Is Eric gonna tell Pam that his office is bugged? If Pam knows then I wonder why she would have sex with Yvetta in the office, unless Eric forgets to mention it.

                      Are you kidding me? Pam is having sex with Yvetta in Eric’s office because SA is listening. Eric probably told her to do it. LOL!

                  • 270 LLE
                    June 16, 2010 at 11:41 pm

                    Last season Sam met Daphne and he did not know she was shifter. Shifter have great smell and Sam found out when Daphne change into a deer. When Dawn was murder, Sam went to her bed and started to smell the bad guy.

                    Sam found out in the last episode that Renee was the killer by the smell.

                    Yvetta can be spy or she can be dancer that has sex with every character on the show. I doubt Pam is going to discuss much to her at all. Yvetta is in the wrong place at the wrong time Pam will just glamor her so she don’t remember anything.

                    • 271 Mony
                      June 16, 2010 at 11:44 pm

                      Maybe Eric will clean is office..or in very Eric style let the Queen enjoy the scene with Yvetta and Pam LOL
                      But i’m with all of you here who doens’t trust 100% in this new libertine dancer….

                    • June 16, 2010 at 11:55 pm

                      Last season Sam met Daphne and he did not know she was shifter. Shifter have great smell and Sam found out when Daphne change into a deer. When Dawn was murder, Sam went to her bed and started to smell the bad guy.

                      Sam found out in the last episode that Renee was the killer by the smell.

                      Exactly. Another example of this is Bill and Sam recognising eachother as supes in episode 1 yet Sam can’t work out Daphne is a shifter? This show thinks nothing of throwing its established mythology under a bus if it suits them in order to move the plot forward.

                      It’s crap writing, it’s inevitable when you have a different writer for every damn episode, and it’s the reason that I will not buy – ever – all the arse kissing that goes on in this fandom about Alan Ball’s genius writing. He doesn’t write any more than one, perhaps two eps per season. He is the show runner, which means he has creative control but that is NOT the same as being invested in the writing of every episode. Therefore, the writing can still quite feasibly SUCK. And often, it does.

                    • 273 Kathy
                      June 17, 2010 at 2:11 am

                      Amen SVB!!

                • 274 Gigi
                  June 17, 2010 at 3:00 pm

                  LLE… SVB’s point wasn’t if Eric screwed or not Yvetta for six hours. Her point is to make a critic of the way AB has made an ignorant moron from a 1000 y/o vampire as is Eric compared to the culturally enlighted and intellectual 173 y/o Bill of TB -PRECISELY because in the books, Eric obviously knew what was a manead and he had to kill one in Russia. Thus, in Alan Ball’s True Blood, the Eric’s ancient knowledge and his intellect as showed at CH’s books also has been transferred to Bill in the show… leaving Eric’s head empty and ready for whatever hairstyle and color they want to give him in each season of the show…

                  • 275 Kathy
                    June 17, 2010 at 7:22 pm

                    LOL Gigi. You all are making me laugh this afternoon!

                  • 276 LLE
                    June 18, 2010 at 2:57 pm

                    Sookie in the books did know what maenad but not the show. Sookie in the books loved to read but you not going to see Sookie read on the show.

                    I guess Sookie and Eric on show are perfect for each other.

              • 277 Jo
                June 16, 2010 at 11:04 pm

                As Kathy posted above are inconsistent of the script, they will twist any logic since it fits in that they want and it’s convenient (and of course make the Bill more hero and intelligent).
                plus one share of Eric, who was “stolen” to give the Bill
                this irritated me more than the death of Longshadow
                Another thing bothers me deeply as Sookie is ignorant for someone who loves to read and very intelligent despite the deficiencies of their education, she made no comment on the meneads in LDID? she had read about it in a book?
                I do not know if someone from the south here, but they all portray Southerners as rednecks. Seriously I’m from another country and I know we all have stereotypes of how each nation is, but ultimately the show is American, not like they were making a show about a distant country that barely knows the local culture

                • 278 LLE
                  June 16, 2010 at 11:16 pm

                  Sookie in the books love to read books but I don’t think TB version of Sookie read books. Tara does read books. Sookie and Eric on the show did not know about Maenad. On the show, Bill read about Maenad.

                • 279 Jan
                  June 16, 2010 at 11:24 pm

                  Jo I am from the south ,yes the do portray us as Southerners as rednecks, ignorant ,dirty.
                  My self I find people who are ,ignorant are going to see Southerners that way .
                  My way is not Allen Ball from the South?

          • 280 Kathy
            June 17, 2010 at 5:27 pm

            And here’s the proof girls. Alex says, the writers didn’t know how S2 was going to end in the middle of the season. That’s just sloppy sloppy sloppy. And it WAS just sloppy sloppy sloppy. See, when they start a season, there’s no clear arc.

    • 282 Kathy
      June 16, 2010 at 3:18 pm

      If you look at the first picture with Alan, Alex’s hair looks the samc color as this season. It’s just out in the sun where it looks blonder.

    • 283 Dee
      June 16, 2010 at 5:39 pm

      I’m also not sure if his face looks burned, I think they are injuries from something else.

  25. 284 Kathy
    June 16, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    BTW, speaking of spoilery things TVGuide has an interview with James Frain that gives a whole lot away. I won’t post the link though. Left it on SVB on facebook.

  26. June 16, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    The pants and boots look like Bill’s. They are his cool vampire duds that he wears when meeting royalty.

  27. June 16, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    Didn’t Franklin Mott have pointy cowboy boots in one of the promos? Could be how he is tangled up in things maybe.
    I can’t tell from the picture, but going on the boots

  28. 287 LydiaB
    June 16, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    I just noticed Russell/Denis has a rip in the side of his shirt as well. Must be fore some special effect of some kind.

  29. 288 jaded3
    June 16, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    This from TV guide
    “How are True Blood’s werewolves different than shifters? — Lila”
    MICKEY: They’re definitely similar, but werewolves are a bit more ambitious. For example, they fought in World War II… just not on our side. Details! Look for an Eric-and-Godric flashback about these cani-Nazis, which will probably confuse you once you find out who employs Bill’s kidnappers.

    • 289 obladee
      June 16, 2010 at 4:28 pm

      OMG! All of these tidbits from all of these different sources is just killing me! In a good way….

    • 290 Mony
      June 16, 2010 at 4:38 pm

      so…they were of course nazi….what i want to know is Eric and Godric position in this….and we’ll found it out Sunday!

      • 291 Lori
        June 16, 2010 at 5:16 pm

        Oh is the flashback in ep 2, awesome! Looks like there might be quite a few Eric scenes in this one, hallelujah!

    • 292 Freyja
      June 20, 2010 at 9:13 pm

      ok so I put this in another link

      Found a review from Edmonton Journal:

      – -Nazi werewolves! No, seriously. There are several flashbacks to the Second World War, when charismatic Nordic vampire Eric Northman (Alexander Skarsgard, stealing virtually every scene he’s in) is a Nazi officer, fighting the good fight on the side of truth, light and righteous justice.

      So this means that Eric and Godric were the good guys?

      • 293 Kathy
        June 20, 2010 at 9:37 pm

        I guess will see tonight, but I always assumed they were. Infiltrating the evil SS draining them one by one…

      • June 20, 2010 at 10:53 pm

        Guys can we keep discussion of 3.02 over in that post please. I know you posted this over there too Freyja 😉
        This post is getting excessively long, and we need to keep it on topic.
        Tks, SVB.

  30. 295 VampirePamsGirl
    June 16, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    Damn you SVB! 😉 I wasn’t going to look, I was going be be good and stay on my spoiler free diet. I swear I was. And then you had to go and post the words “juicy, ERIC-CENTRIC finale pictures” and really, what the hell could I do? I HAD TO LOOK! You did that on purpose, lol. If it would have been just finale spoiler pics, I might could have contained myself, but juicy ERIC-CENTRIC pics, nooo way my self-control is that good, lol. 😀

    But I am absolutely not reading the comments with theories about what’s gonna happen cause ya’ll are all too damn SMART and somebody will probably have a theory that turns out to be right and I’ll be even more spoiled! 🙂

    I’m not even trying to figure out what’s happening here, I’m just going to enjoy the Godric and try not to cringe at my beautiful Viking being all extra-crispy looking.

  31. 303 jaded3
    June 16, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    Wonder if they were attacked with Silver Nitrate? Per Wiki-

    Silver nitrate is an inorganic compound with chemical formula AgNO3. This compound is a versatile precursor to many other silver compounds, such as those used in photography. It is far less sensitive to light than the halides. It was once called lunar caustic because silver was called luna by the ancient alchemists.Fused silver nitrate, shaped into sticks, was traditionally called “lunar caustic”. It is used as a cauterizing agent, for example to remove granulation tissue around a stoma.Silver nitrate is toxic and corrosive, with more exposure, side effects will become more noticeable, including burns.

    Interesting that it was called Luna (moon) and weres must change on the full moon. I would think silver nitrate would peal a Vamps skin.

    • 304 Mony
      June 16, 2010 at 5:28 pm

      wooow…that’s really really interesting!!!!
      I could be one of the hate crimes against them….or a punishment from the Magister, all the things Eric has on his back seems to be useful for something to drain or inject or jysy for the smoke affect(wich is my first choice btw!!!)
      ..The Magister said he wanted a punishment that should be an example for everybody….
      But in the pics there is also Moyer with a girl who i presume is Anna’s stuntwoman….so i don’t know about the Magister….but my first idea is and still Hate Crime.

      that’s a good reason for this pics!Thanks XD

      • 305 feather
        June 16, 2010 at 5:32 pm

        I figured being made an example of tied in with qsa on display in a silver bird cage… that’s as far as my thoughts travelled tho

  32. June 16, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    my theory?

    hate crime.

  33. June 16, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    SVB – I DM’d you my thoughts on Twitter.
    P.S. all – Alan Hyde told me at the premiere that he is only in 2 eps this whole season. So I guess that makes it Ep. 2 and the finale.

  34. 308 Dee
    June 16, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    OH NO what is happening to Eric. I would love to think it was a flashback but I don’t think we’d see him in that wife beater in a flashback. OH NO poor Eric 😦 …I can’t figure out what the fuck they’re doing for last episodes, this is all crazy. I really think that is Bill laying on the floor. They’re all just screwed huh, Eric, Bill, RE is burned too and QSA is sitting in a birdcage.

    I remember for episode 8 they said there will be a major news announcement about vampires on the news. Then in episode 10 there was a casting call for 2 people who go to Bill’s house, it’s anti vampire people. Because of the drained humans showing up left and right, seems like the humans will go out on the attack against vamps. So the fangtasia pic probably is between ep 8-10.

  35. June 16, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    I don’t doubt Bill punching Lorena, seeing as he lights her on fire in Ep. 2. (Yep, it’s Lorena on fire in all those promos you’ve seen.) Also, based on those damn pointy boots, I’d guess it’s Franklin Mott being tortured. Maybe Lorena wants to know why RE sent FM to spy on Bill? Or she wants to know what he learned in the course of said spying? B/c FM finds documentation in Ep 2 as to why Bill was sent back to BT, which imcludes documentation of Sookie’s family tree. I would love to know more about QSA in the cage. My guess is that either the Magister or RE has confined her. RE “says” that he wants to marry QSA, but implies that he’s gearing for a takeover. I think we can expect some plot points from both Book 8 and 9 this season.

    • 310 feather
      June 16, 2010 at 6:19 pm

      Oooooh, very interesting! Thanks for the info!

    • June 16, 2010 at 9:33 pm

      You’re sure it’s Lorena? Is this confirmed? I can’t tell you how happy it would make me. Lorena on fire would be the first prediction I’ve made for s3 that’s confirmed, and it was made months before the shots of the human torch were released totally on the theory that AB was using literary alchemy like CH does.

      • June 16, 2010 at 9:39 pm

        yes, look down at the end of this post here, the person who says that seems to have seen the ep.

        • 313 Mony
          June 16, 2010 at 9:58 pm

          but Mariane said she had a lot of scenes with Moyer…so maybe he tried to kill her with the fire but she will recover…dunno….seem to soon to die….just one episode???But it’s possible…since Bill is gonna make a deal with Russel.

          • 314 legalease
            June 16, 2010 at 10:04 pm

            Yes, the description said that he set her on fire, it didn’t say that he killed her. Considering their twisted sex scene is in Episode 3, either she survives the torching, or Bill is getting it on with a dead woman in more ways than one!

      • 318 LLE
        June 16, 2010 at 9:40 pm

        I knew that AB was planning on killing Lorena this season because it is in the books and AB is going to have different way of killing her.

        • June 16, 2010 at 9:46 pm

          dude i have no idea how my reply to renee ended up alllllll the way down here!

        • June 16, 2010 at 10:02 pm

          Most bookies are expecting Lorena’s death. The alchemical prediction that I made was that a vampire who was identified with the color red would burn. Apparently Lorena isn’t killed by the fire since Bill still has to punch her in the face and rape her.

          • 321 LLE
            June 16, 2010 at 10:12 pm

            The actress did say she will be in six episodes this season. AB is planning kill a lot of characters this season.

            • 322 legalease
              June 16, 2010 at 10:16 pm

              Yes, and if she doesn’t enter until the second episode, looks like she’ll be around until Episode 7.

  36. 323 lalala
    June 16, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Wow, they really are jumping all over the place in the book series, aren’t they? Plucking things hither and yon. Oh well, should be interesting…

  37. 324 Jan
    June 16, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    I think your right they are all over the place

    • June 16, 2010 at 9:22 pm

      Even Eric losing control of himself this season is from DITF

      • 326 lala
        June 17, 2010 at 12:52 pm

        Don’t you think Eric and Sookie could both use a sense of humor in True Blood? They are always so Life & Death serious (esp now with Bill missing).
        I miss the humor from the books.

        Also, the promo scene for ep2 or 3 (not sure) where eric is talking to sookie about her obsession with finding bill reminds me of the scene in book 3 at her kitchen table when he threatens her and she is holding his hand, not sure if he is going to torture her or be her friend (love that scene myself). I wish AB could have played it that way, but maybe he will, who knows. This sookie of TB does not seem to fear eric at all.

        • 327 Freyja
          June 17, 2010 at 1:10 pm

          Yes especially between them two! I really like Erics humor, last season was great for me 🙂 But then again there was not much humor between them, too much tension, but I did love the first dream!
          Of course this first episode was filled with stress and fear; the queen, the magister, Bills kidnapping… but after seeing the promo for next show and the ‘protect you, primal sex with you’ gives me hope. I’m sure they will have lots of great moments together this season, I’m always optimistic 🙂 I wont enjoy the show if I’m not.

  38. 328 Dunkinstiks
    June 16, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    LOL. You all crack me the freck up! I just spent 30 minutes reading about AS’s worse for wear black maybe or maybe not stunt pants 😀 That one pic could be Sookie in her dark wig and Bill on the floor?

  39. 330 legalease
    June 17, 2010 at 12:29 am

    Yes, I do believe he is a Georgia peach. If you count Texas as the South (some Southerners don’t want us!), then I’ve lived most of my life in the South. I’ve grown immune to the stereotypes, but the atrocious accents in 95% of the TV and film portrayals still grate. I give TB more leeway on all of this though since it’s going for the whole Southern Gothic thing. If this were a documdrama, I’d be offended, LOL!

    • 331 legalease
      June 17, 2010 at 12:32 am

      Oops! That was supposed to go under Jo’s post #248 about being from the South. Crap! 😳

    • June 17, 2010 at 12:34 am

      Hey legalease, I was just about to say the exact thing about AB, Texas, stereotypes, bad Southern accents, and TB. Dallas is definitely considered a Southern city. Many of the Yankees who move here are quite surprised by that. LOL!

      • 333 legalease
        June 17, 2010 at 1:53 am

        I went to school in Austin and I think that most of the Northeners and Californians that moved there, as well as a good deal of the natives, would feel the same way!

        Yeah, the accents drive me crazy. The South is just as diverse in dialects as other regions of the world, yet most of the portrayals sound like they came from the Scarlett O’Hara school of accents! New Orleans accents are some of the worst on screen. I have worked with people from the NOLA area for several years and they most definitely do not sound like the characters in A Streetcar Named Desire, or the cast of All the King’s Men. With all of the dialect coaches that are used now you’d think it would get better.

        • June 17, 2010 at 2:16 am

          I’ve never heard a real NOLA accent on tv, and it’s a shame because they are so unique.

          To my ears Ryan & Sam’s accents are perfect. I’m not sure that’s how folks sound in northern LA, but they’d fit right into any north Texas town without raising an eyebrow. That’s not a big feat for Sam since he’s a native, but it certainly is for Ryan. That boy amazes me.

          The TB accent that I find most interesting is Kevin’s. I think it’s called a whistling Tennessee accent. I can’t judge how authentic it sounds, and the actor has gotten all kinds of criticism for using it when his character is supposed to be from LA. I think it’s an allusion to Andy Griffith who had that same kind of accent. Between Bud, Andy, Kevin, and Kenya there are many allusions to the Andy Griffith Show.

          • 335 legalease
            June 17, 2010 at 2:37 am

            Andy as Barney Fife and Kevin as Gomer Pyle? Works for me!

            I love the NOLA accents. The first time I heard an authentic one, I thought they were from the Bronx because it was so unlike anything I had heard on screen. The accents in The Big Easy were closer, but more Cajun than NOLA. Northern LA is very similar to Northeast Texas and Southern Arkansas. Ryan does an amazing job and I don’t think I’ve ever heard his accent slip. I think that’s why so many fans are surprised when they learn he’s an Aussie. I read that Sam T. has family in LA, did he grow up in LA as well?

            • June 17, 2010 at 3:17 am

              Ah…it’s an ArkLaTex accent. Actually, Oklahoma should probably be included in there too. I think Sam is from Texas and uses his natural accent.

        • 337 Lotus
          June 17, 2010 at 11:37 am

          The South is just as diverse in dialects as other regions of the world, yet most of the portrayals sound like they came from the Scarlett O’Hara school of accents!

          This cracked me up because it is so true! The accents on TB are mostly horrible, except for Ryan and Sam, which is so funny since Ryan is an Aussie and still nails the northern LA sound. I’ve lived in the South for most of my life and the way someone speaks differs depending on what area they’re from. TN sounds different from southern MS, which sounds different from northern MS, which sounds different from GA or the Carolinas, etc …

          I’m actually from the New Orleans area and grew up along the Gulf Coast (which makes me so sad about what’s happening right now, but that’s off topic) and so I know exactly what you mean about the accent there. Half my relatives talk that way! It’s actually referred to as “Yat” and is very close to the sound you hear in Brooklyn. Instead of “room”, it’s “rum”, “thea” instead of “there”, “zink” instead of “sink”, and of course instead of “New Orleans” or “New Orleeens” as you sometimes hear from those outside the area, it’s “N’Awlins”. And Yat is different from Cajun dialect, which is associated with Acadiana, which is a mostly rural area in southern LA.

          • 338 KPRMSE
            June 17, 2010 at 2:16 pm

            Completely agree. When moving from California to suburban South, I never realized that the regional dialicts were so different. Also too, in addition to region, is the socio-economic differences in the regions (as with anywhere else those more rural/without means to travel, see the same people more, so the accent tends to be thicker). Even now, living in the “historic home of Gone with the Wind”, I can tell you that I’ve never run into anyone who actual talks like Scarlett O’Hara in person.

            Ryan nails the Northern LA, so much so that I was shocked to discover he’s an Aussie. Most of the rest who attempt it, get a little lost in some of the “Dukes of Hazzard” diction at worse, or generic “rural/southern/country” at best.

          • 339 sunnynala
            June 17, 2010 at 2:39 pm

            Carrie Preston’s accent is quite authentic. She’s from Macon, Georgia and around here (Gulf Coast of Alabama) accents such as hers are quite common and usually denote a poor rural upbringing.

            The ‘whistling Tennessee’ accent can be heard in a few families in my home county. (just north of Mobile county) I have no idea why. Maybe their ancestors hailed from Tennessee?

            Maxine Fortenberry sounds like she probably grew up in a relatively genteel household, with parents who were not necessarily rich but socially secure and probably educated to some degree. She sounds a lot like my mother.

            Nelsan Ellis is from Alabama so yeah, his accent and vernacular are quite good to my ears. I hear the southern actors will tell the writers “well, down south we would say it like this or that…” and the writers adjust the dialogue accordingly.

            In fact, I have no quibble with any of the accents except AP’s. She can be quite inconsistent but you can tell she’s well-coached and tries very hard. Also, Tara’s accent is more ‘poor southern white girl’ than ‘poor southern black girl’ but that can be attributed to practically growing up in Sookie’s household.

            • 340 KPRMSE
              June 17, 2010 at 6:41 pm

              I couldn’t place Carrie or Nelsan perhaps because they sounded like neigbors, with a very solid generic middle south diction, and not like those I know from Shereveport, which would make sense as I’m between Macon/Atlanta. Maxine sounds a lot like my boss at times, which also may have something to do with her age, when it being pressed upon that generation to be a “proper lady”.

              It could be very possible that your neigbors orginially came from Tennessee. I have ancestors that moved from Tennessee/Kentucky/Ohio to Alabama then West.

              For me too, AP is very inconsistent. While its apparent that she’s well coached, it can be very distracting.

            • 341 VampirePamsGirl
              June 17, 2010 at 7:33 pm

              Sunny, I’m from Alabama too and I’ve also never really had a problem with most of the accents on the show. Bill drives me crazy, but then again I guess his accent is supposed to be from a different time period so maybe it’s supposed to be that way.

              And I have to say here in rural east central AL I have heard plenty of people that sound probably even more redneck than anything the show has given us. Think Jeff Foxworthy redneck dictionary type of redneck, lol.

              And there are plenty of people that you may not even realize they lived in Alabama just by hearing them speak. So I definitely agree too with the statement legalease made about the south being diverse in dialect.

              I’ve also met a few people from LA and they sounded perfectly normal to me. In fact, I was in a line for a ride with the people in front of us from TN and the people behind us from LA and we all talked pretty much the same, we were even joking about how the Yankees talk and how we all talk, lol. ‘Ya’ll and yen’ and ‘coke and pop’ being some of the more common differences.

    • 342 Jan
      June 17, 2010 at 12:55 am

      Hes just giving them what they want ,plus their watching his show Ture Blood
      Who does not count Texas,has to be from the North

  40. 343 karin
    June 17, 2010 at 7:06 am

    I read fast through another page and this. It is such a shame that you have so much baggage you cannot suspend belief and your scoial mores about humans and enjoy the books and the show. Bill did NOT rape sookie, he was filled with instincts like all species are for self preservation, plus he was nuts from the toture and starvation. You guys need to lighten up. You have way too much baggage to enjoy yourselves. I am outta here. They are books and a TV show. If you think that vampires should think humanly, I am truely sad for you.

    • June 17, 2010 at 8:59 am

      We’re having a great time! There’s lots and lots of us here and we’re all getting along just fine.

      Thanks for your concern, though.

    • June 17, 2010 at 10:24 am

      Bill DID rape Sookie, excuse me. But when you say that we can’t expect vampires to follow human morality, I agree on this. Indeed, I enjoy the show much more when Bill and the other vampires DO act like vampires instead of blabbling all that “I regret my humanity” bullshit.

    • 346 MASpencer
      June 17, 2010 at 1:20 pm

      Karin, I see where you’re coming from, but really, if this is how you feel about it, you’re kinda missing the point. Yes, this is a vampire show and we should all be having fun with it– and believe me, we ARE. But saying that the vampires on the show SHOULDN’T be attributed with human behavior and motivations is like saying that books like ‘Animal Farm’ or ‘Watership Down’ were ACTUALLY about a bunch of pigs and rabbits.

      You CAN watch ‘True Blood’ that way… I just don’t know why you WOULD.

      • June 17, 2010 at 2:49 pm

        But saying that the vampires on the show SHOULDN’T be attributed with human behavior and motivations is like saying that books like ‘Animal Farm’ or ‘Watership Down’ were ACTUALLY about a bunch of pigs and rabbits.

        That’s why there’s such a schism in this fandom.

        A fluffy tale of pigs and rabbits for those who are content to be entertained…versus a cold hard kick in the nuts from Orwell and Adams for those who want to think.

        And that’s why Ball calls it popcorn for smart people.

        • 348 sunnynala
          June 17, 2010 at 3:12 pm

          And that’s why Ball calls it popcorn for smart people.

          He should have added ‘and cotton candy for dummies’.

        • June 17, 2010 at 4:43 pm

          Damn, I wish you hadn’t said *actually about a bunch of pigs and rabbits*. All I can think of now is Porkey Pig and Elmer Fudd creeping up on Bugs. LOL

          • 352 Angie
            June 18, 2010 at 6:35 am

            And now all I can think about is that Family Guy cutaway gag of Elmer Fudd shooting Bugs, where Bugs dies a slow, agonizing death, and his bloody body is dragged away by Elmer. And I still lol’d like crazy. But I think I have a much sicker sense of humor than most people. 🙂

    • June 17, 2010 at 4:04 pm

      no, karin.




      come back :/

      • 354 Freyja
        June 17, 2010 at 4:09 pm

        What can I say she overpowered me 😉

      • 357 legalease
        June 17, 2010 at 5:44 pm

        LOL! You guys are awesome!

      • 358 Kathy
        June 17, 2010 at 7:20 pm

        LOL Feather!

        • June 17, 2010 at 9:12 pm


          and fyi, anyone who has ever been battered or in a similar situation (hell, anyone with a clear mind) would never think of that simply as a vampire tending his needs. it was rape, pure and simple. and it makes me quite angry to see (yet another) woman (i assume) defending that action. where is your pride, your self respect?

          there is nothing in this fandom that pisses me off more than the "but but beeeeell was starving" argument.

          • June 17, 2010 at 9:29 pm

            Just makes me want to say to them ‘if you said no to a guy and he said “but i reallllllly need sex, my not-so-gracious-plenty is parched and i am starving for a good shag” would they say oh yes of course thats not rape.’

            I wonder how many would say that just to try and prove us wrong, stupid BL’s.

            I actually will be really disappointed if AB doesn’t include it in this series, because he does like controversial and hot topics, and for me abuse of any kind is a hot topic for discussion, especially when it raises awareness.

            • June 17, 2010 at 9:54 pm

              how is “but he was starving” any different than “but i was horny / but you’re a cocktease/ etc” ….

              it’s not, it’s just an excuse!

              i don’t think the BL’s are dumb. heck, they’re into teeny dark haired men, i’m into tall fair haired men, no big deal. but i do want them to really think about what they’re saying here, though. THINK LADIES, THINK! that’s all i’m asking 😦

            • 362 Mony
              June 18, 2010 at 10:01 am

              i’ve read an interview with Moyer where he say that there isn’t the rape scene as in the book 3….maybe he was just teasing, but it’s quite possible that AB decided to not include it and use some others stuff to make quite clear who Bill really is….

              • June 18, 2010 at 2:38 pm

                well now that i know they are making it up as they go it doesn’t surprise me ;_;

              • June 18, 2010 at 11:50 pm

                Do you know where that interview was Mony, or roughly where and when you saw it?

                I remember Moyer gave an interview about the Chicago flashback saying he wanted to include a rape in that scene and Ball wouldn’t go there. But I haven’t seen anything about the book 3 rape, I’d be surprised if he let that slip?

                • 365 ESFAN08
                  June 19, 2010 at 12:05 am

                  I bet AB is foregoing the rape Scene cuz he wont have Bill do anything like that to Sookie. If i had to guess the Scene with him an Lorena, an him twisting her Head around will replace the rape Scene with Sookie in the Books. I’m just a lil worried now that if Eric does get badly burned in Ep 12, an Sookie’s there an tries saving him, if AB isn’t gonna end up having Eric drain Sookie. Meanwhile the only thing that comes out with Bill is his mission, an what he did with Lorena. I really hope i’m wrong but with AB you never know. I do believe Sookie will heal Eric by giving her Blood the question is will AB have Eric lose control?

                  • 366 sunnynala
                    June 19, 2010 at 2:27 pm

                    I’m just a lil worried now that if Eric does get badly burned in Ep 12, an Sookie’s there an tries saving him, if AB isn’t gonna end up having Eric drain Sookie.

                    If this happens I will stop watching the show. I’m not kidding.

                    • 367 Mony
                      June 19, 2010 at 2:49 pm

                      Alexander said many times that Eric and Sookie will happen eventually and that Eric’s feelings for her are getting dtronger and stringer and it’s not just becouse of the blood….
                      so i don’t see how Sookie could even THINK to start a relationship even with an AE if he’ll hurt her…..
                      this is a scenario that would ruin everything even remotley credible for them….
                      mayve he’s gonna taste her that’s when he’ll find about the fae blood….maybe he’ll drink too much and that’s why she’s gonna end in an hospital (maybe he’ll take her there)
                      But this is too soon to tell right now….

                      What i know is that Sookie will walk in night clothes in a linving room where she’ll find Eric and Talbot and a vampire will die (Talbot i guess)…maybe she spent the night there after being stake, or after found his Beeell

                      to soon to tell….

                    • June 19, 2010 at 3:05 pm


                      I am SOOO walking the line with this show as it is, but there are certain things that are complete deal breakers for me.

                      And at the top of that list, is anything that involves Eric physically attacking Sookie. It is so completely and utterly NOT canon and I won’t cop it. I don’t care what “justifiable” circumstances surround it, either.

                      A distinctive characteristic of Eric in TB (so far), and in the books is his sense of self control. Eric is capable of losing it – but it is always clear that is a conscious choice. And he never, EVER loses control with Sookie on the receiving end.

                      He’s done it in front of her, and he’s directed it at others – but not at her. And he’s shown repeatedly that unlike Bill, he is able to pull himself in when she’s around.

                      If Eric ever attacks Sookie on TB, regardless of the circumstances, you guys will wake up in the morning to find a blog with nothing but book posts.

                      And I’m not kidding either.

                    • 369 sunnynala
                      June 19, 2010 at 3:35 pm

                      A distinctive characteristic of Eric in TB (so far), and in the books is his sense of self control.

                      Exactly. Having him attack Sookie would be so ooc I would never be able to trust TB again. It would utterly destroy his character. OTOH, BILL has been shown from the get-go as completely lacking in control and there is a glut of foreshadowing for an attack on Sookie.

                    • June 19, 2010 at 3:52 pm

                      I really don’t think AB would do that. TB has spent way too much time showing Bill’s lack of self-control and Eric’s self-mastery. I’ve been saying all along that AB would put a starving Eric together with Sookie to show that he is not Bill.

                    • June 19, 2010 at 4:25 pm

                      same here :/ that would push me.

                    • 372 Freyja
                      June 19, 2010 at 4:33 pm

                      I hope and I don’t think they would do that… but if they did, then I would stop watching! The fans of the books, that are a lot more after the series began, would flip! AB would have to be incredibly stupid to pull that off and I doubt that CH would approve.

                    • June 19, 2010 at 10:02 pm

                      Also, up until the showed Bill and Olivia, Bill’s feeding habits have been really messy, while what little we’ve seen of Eric is very clean. It’s a visual to help show the difference between these vamps. Maybe that also lends support to Olivia’s scenes are ‘real’??

                    • 374 Gigi
                      June 20, 2010 at 12:00 am

                      What really worries me is that it seems Eric will be having some kind of hallucination with Godric before, instead of see it is Sookie. Like most of you I think it would be a trascendental experience, but it also worries me because, what if he thinks Sookie is Godric and is there to help him by giving him blood or something like that? Maybe most of you trust AB work, but I don’t trust him a bit regarding Eric. After watching the way AB portrayed him not moving a muscle when LS tried to kill Sookie, the the plot device in which Eric has choosen to have a torture dungeon (to show him as a monster as his face changes and to make him rip people in pieces because he can’t control himself – yeah, Royce what an asshole, but still ERIC was portrayed as a monster…), and after the way he used Eric to be the one to blame for Lorena’s reappearance in Bill’s life… I don’t trust the bitch at all.

                      Because in this fanfic of TB, where secondary characters have reached the status of primary, a primary characters as Eric has been relegated to be a secondary character, and sociopaths and psychopaths like Bill, Godric (yeah, because in books he’s a sociopath, has other name, he isn’t Eric’s maker and is a pedophile that wants to meet the sun and is seeking for redemption because of that…), Debbie Pelt and Franklin Molt are portray as victims or sympathic… you have to be prepared to expect all the contrary of what is supposed to happen. As Tina said once about Eric:

                      [But when major characters are being relegated to bit players? Or major characters are having their whole essence fucked with? That changes everything – especially their role in the story, and most of all where their character can eventually end up.]

                      After all I have seen, I know AB is very able to do it. I only hope that he doesn’t dare to…

                      One can only hope… the hope is the last thing to lose, right?

                  • 375 Dee
                    June 19, 2010 at 3:32 pm

                    I really don’t think Eric will attack Sookie, especially not while he is burned. He would barely be able to move, we saw Bill who could barely walk to Sookie. I also don’t think they’ll do this at end of S3 when in S4 he is supposed to have amnesia. I don’t know if it’s just me trying to stay positive lol but I think what will happen is Sookie will realize she has feelings for Eric when she sees what is happening to him. I think it’s gonna be a touching moment, with Godric there too coming to him as a vision or whatever. I think that is the point of bringing Godric in for such a moment, to evoke similar emotions to S2 ep 9.

                    • 376 Kathy
                      June 19, 2010 at 3:47 pm

                      SVB, that would be fine with me, as I would quit watching as well and put my nose back in the books for another round!

                      PS: As far as that scene we’re talking about. I think Sookie will be standing over him talking and he will think it’s Godric. In my little fantasy scenario, Eric will see Godric’s love in Sookie and nothing in regards to her is the same again.

                    • 377 Mony
                      June 19, 2010 at 4:53 pm

                      I see at Sookie taking the pace of Godric in ERic’s “alluciantion” as a symbol of pure love, kind of Appius scenario when he said you are my dearest, you know….
                      if that will be the scene, actually, will prove how deep his feeling for her are…
                      See Godric when it’s only Sookie has a lot of meaning and they are all deep.

                    • 378 sunnynala
                      June 19, 2010 at 10:19 pm

                      Holy hell, I just realized Eric is going to run out into the sun to save Sookie! And he’ll actually succeed! And there will be no conveniently dug graves at the ready nearby! LOL!

                    • 379 Freyja
                      June 19, 2010 at 10:30 pm

                      I would love that Sunny, though I’m not sure about it. But Sookie saving Eric or Eric saving Sookie is just as good for me 🙂

                    • June 19, 2010 at 11:09 pm

                      Yes, Sunny I’m sure you are right! On my blog I’ve been writing about the parallels between s2 and s3, but they are pretty much details. I’ve thought all along that s3 Sookie and Eric would go through pretty much the same things that Bill and Sookie did s1 with Eric getting an invitation to enter her house, flirting outside, the biting dream and the sex dream have already occurred, first kiss whith Sookie is the aggressor, Eric helping Sookie with an investigation, First trip to FT = first night at Lou Pines, second trip to FT where Sookie is nearly killed = 2nd night, Eric is taken before the magister and found guilty and punished. It makes perfect sense that Sookie would get back temporarily with Bill like she did with Sam, send Eric away, and then he would go out in the sun to save her. Of course she saves him right back. Yea! You have made my day!

                    • 381 Serena
                      June 20, 2010 at 12:49 am

                      Sorry to be the killjoy here and I love to harp on coincidences too, but I don’t think that’s how this goes down. I think Sookie is exclusively rescuing Eric.

                      1.)There is evidence on AS’s wrist in those pics of silver restraints. How can Eric rescue her if he is tied up? If Sookie isn’t using the silver chains that were binding Eric, why would she have them? Maybe its the old Rattrays chain, I dunno, but it sure was convenient of her to have it on hand.

                      2.)I like my Sigebert theory better, LMAO. Secondly, to me this fight is more likely to happen like in Book 8 because in TB Sigebert DOESN’T exist. Thus there is no complication down the line if they borrow the situation here in season 3.

                      3.)Why is Sookie at Fangtasia? If Eric runs out the door at Fangtasia like Crispy Bill to rescue Sookie, isn’t he lucky that Sookie is in the parking lot? I think RE is hellbent on either mutual destruction with Eric or he thinks he can get away while leaving a restrained Eric out in the daylight. If RE were out to kill Sookie he’d do it at her house, not anywhere near Eric, and he would not drag her to Fangtasia. Granted there is the possibility that she runs to Eric from RE, but when exactly in that scenario does Eric get restrained?

                      4.)The Godric vision. If its supposed to be significant that Sookie replaces Godric, well she couldn’t have been standing right next to him in the first place could she? I mean, it has to be a surprise to Eric to see her does it not?

                      And I think there are more reasons to like this scenario, for it would suggest Sookie actually gives a hoot about Eric, we can already surmise how he feels about her. And personally, I don’t want to see a Crispy Eric just so AB can rehash Crispy Bill’s failed rescue.

                    • 382 Kathy
                      June 20, 2010 at 1:32 am

                      I have to agree with Serena. Okay with the parallels, but I don’t understand why anyone would basically repeat a whole season’s story line almost verbatim with just a few details changed. That’s even lazier than “I” think the writers are.

                      I think Sookie is saving Eric for sure. And why Eric would get amnesia because he got crispy I don’t know, but I do think he won’t recognize Sookie, it will be AE and it will end the season. S4 will start with Sookie taking care of crispy AE.

                    • June 20, 2010 at 2:44 am

                      Kathy, this is how the whole show is structured. Think about all the kidnappings and incarcerations–Laffy, Sookie, Sam, Bill, Jason, and s3 Tara. It’s not lazy writing. It’s very challenging to make each story seem fresh. I have a list of over 50 point for point comparisons between 2.01 and 3.01. Did you find 3.01 boring and get the sense that you had seen it before?

                    • 384 anna
                      June 20, 2010 at 4:54 pm

                      Gigi, there might be a good reason why Godfrey was turned into Godric. In the books Eric’s maker raped young men and this is not the norm for gay men. Gay men have enough prejudice against them without putting a paedophile and gay rapist on cult TV.

                      Making Eric’s maker a sympathetic character in theory should reflect well on Eric as Godric was liked and respected even after hundreds of years as a vampire.

                      Unless of course AB decides to change that too.

                    • 385 Kathy
                      June 20, 2010 at 8:42 pm

                      Re: Star Wars, George Lukas has spoken in length how Joseph Campbell’s writing, especially “The Hero with a Thousand Faces” influenced the story. It’s very obvious in Star Wars, as it is in Harry Potter. Guess since I read the SVM’s as fun reads, I’m not looking for deep meaning.

                      Is this the quote you were talking about?

                      “If by literary alchemy you mean that Sookie and other characters are changed by their experiences and interactions, yes, I suppose she does use that. I think it’s clear that Sookie, for example, has been transformed by her experiences in varying degrees. Other characters have changed, as well. I don’t think Ms. Charlaine has used the term specifically, though.

                      I don’t really see evidence of the doppelganger methodology that you are talking about since I don’t really see another character who is a mirror image of Sookie or whose experiences mirror hers. Maybe if you provided an example.”

                      Not sure Dallasmc was referring or thinking about Granger’s theories. But I’m not saying she’s not.

                      I do believe the characters changing with their experiences, I hope so. If from all their previous experiences they aren’t changed, then they aren’t growing at all and that makes for one-dimensional characters. But Sookie as “The Hero with a Thousand Faces?” I’m still on the skeptic side.

                    • June 21, 2010 at 10:10 pm


                      Star Wars, George Lukas has spoken in length how Joseph Campbell’s writing, especially “The Hero with a Thousand Faces” influenced the story. It’s very obvious in Star Wars, as it is in Harry Potter.
                      The point I was making was the point of using the monomyth isn’t so that people will notice it. It’s supposed to work on the subconscious level. Alchemy has not been popularized like the hero’s journey. In fact, with most people it has negative connotations either with pseudo science, the occult, or kooks. The people who identified literary alchemy in Harry Potter were viewed as tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists for many many years. Try to put the conversation on a literary level and point out that Chaucer and Shakespeare used it and you get laughed at comparing popular authors to the masters.

                      I do believe the characters changing with their experiences, I hope so. If from all their previous experiences they aren’t changed, then they aren’t growing at all and that makes for one-dimensional characters. But Sookie as “The Hero with a Thousand Faces?” I’m still on the skeptic side.

                      What makes you skeptical?
                      In novels she seems well on her way to completing the hero’s journey.
                      Call to adventure? Check
                      Crossing the threshold? Check
                      Companions and Mentor? Check
                      Road of Trials? Check
                      Meeting with the God(dess) and experiencing unconditional love? Check
                      In the belly of whale? Fairy attack
                      Atonement/Family reconciliation? In the works

                    • 387 Kathy
                      June 22, 2010 at 12:49 pm

                      In almost every story there are elements of “The Hero’s Journey.” That’s what makes drama and makes the protagonist well-rounded and worth caring for. You feel this journey Sookie is on is deliberately based on Granger’s literary alchemy and/or the monomyth. You believe all the characters deliberately have parallels/doppelgangers. You’ve put a lot of time and thought into this. It’s fascinating.

                      I’m not convinced it’s deliberate. I’m not convinced that every detail has a deep and/or double meaning. I think it’s more like in the moment “Oh, wouldn’t if be cool if we wrote this in…”

                      It’s fun to theorize and when Alan Ball comes out and talks about all these cool easter eggs and structures, I will the first one applauding everyone who has figured it all out.

                      For now I stick to my belief that they are writing a piece of entertainment and changing the canon Charlaine wrote, and the one they have set up from episode to episode to make things fit into what they’ve decided to write “today.”

                      No sense debating this any further. I’m not budging and neither are you or Sunny. LOL! That’s what makes this world interesting.

                  • 388 Kathy
                    June 20, 2010 at 12:19 pm

                    What aggravates me IS the way the show is structured. It’s not a straight procedural or a romance in which a distinct structure is needed. However, even if it was there would be no need for so many “parallels.” I actually don’t mind a few parallels but, yes, I did get the sense I saw some of it before. One obvious one: Bill/Weres, Laffy E/P/C. Both kidnapped, both fed on by captors.

                    Tara is being preyed on AGAIN (Oh, lord save me.) Bill and Lorena will be in another knock down/drag out (they should have saved that for this season.) Looks like crispy Eric at the end of the season to contrast crispy Bill. Why do we need that? AE on his own running down the street is just as fine a cliff hanger.

                    I don’t understand the purpose of the constant parallel.

                    If there are parallels/repetition in Charlaine’s books there are certainly not as many. Or maybe they aren’t as obvious to me. I still think the show suffers in the big differences from the books.

                    I just don’t find all the repetitiveness interesting.

                    • 389 Serena
                      June 20, 2010 at 4:29 pm

                      For what it is worth Kathy, I don’t think AmnesiaEric is caused by CrispyEric. If there is a parallel to all the season finales, its that after the action stops there is a ‘one day later’ type cooling off period to set up the cliffhanger. I think to have AE result from CE would be too abrupt an ending.

                      Also, the Godric vision should be seen by a sentient Eric, who understands the significance and symbolism of Sookie stepping in. Otherwise its a bit of a wasted opportunity for character development.

                      On the parallels, while I believe there are deliberate coincidences in TB, there seem to be a few facets of this scene that aren’t reflecting the past… Bill didn’t have visions of Lorena while ‘rescuing’ Sookie, Bill didn’t have restraint marks on his wrists, Rene wasn’t a vampire king,.. I mean, I know this is all fercockt tin foilery on our parts, but how can we be so selective about one particular aspect in our past comparisons and in our future projections while ignoring the others? JS’

                    • 390 Dee
                      June 20, 2010 at 4:40 pm

                      I have to say that although I would love nothing more than to see AE running down the road, it’s not really a good cliffhanger. I know I’ll probably hear a lot of comments because of this but if we see Eric running down the road, then we basically know exactly why, we all know he’ll have amnesia. So it’s not really a cliffhanger. Even so many who haven’t read the books, AE is mentioned so much on forums that many know this will happen to him so they’ll also figure it out. As Eric fans we just love the image of that because of the love for DTTW we have but overall won’t have a big shocking cliffhanger effect.

                      But AB said there will be several cliffhangers and they will be big so this might be one of them but I think he’ll take on a different approach.

                    • June 20, 2010 at 5:02 pm

                      Despite the realistic look of the show, AB is creating an epic myth cycle with archetypes, which are based on patterns. TB has even more parallels than you would normally find in myths because it also incorporates literary alchemy in the story the same way CH does in the books. With alchemy all the main characters have alter egos with similar psychological makeups who go through similar experiences. Beyond that each episode seems to be structured on a tarot archetype. It’s all wheels within wheels, as each character tries to find their way to spiritual enlightenment, fails, and starts over.

                      I don’t like Eric having sex in the DOD with Yvette hanging there like a piece of meat, but the way the show is structured demands it because Eric’s first on screen sexual encounter is a replay of his alter ego’s first on screen sexual encounter. Naked Eric with a tied up Yvette is a replay of naked Jason having sex with Maudette tied to a meat hook. Sookie walking in on Eric is the equivalent of Jason watching Maudette’s sex tape with Liam. The scene couldn’t be on Eric’s sofa because it also has to correspond with Laffy being chained to the carousel in 2.01, so you have Yvetta tied to the carousel in 3.01 recreating Maudette’s sex scene.

                      You may not care for this type of storytelling, but it is not lazy writing. It is very deliberate, very involved, and very well planned.

                    • 392 sunnynala
                      June 20, 2010 at 5:13 pm

                      You may not care for this type of storytelling, but it is not lazy writing. It is very deliberate, very involved, and very well planned.

                      Wonderful comment Renee and so very true. I would just add that putting the characters in similar situations serves the purpose of allowing the audience to compare and contrast their reactions on a level playing field and provides us a understanding of their comparative strengths and weaknesses.

                    • June 20, 2010 at 5:19 pm

                      You’re right that we can’t be sure what point for point correspondences the writers will choose to make. It’s just a good bet that they are going to focus on the actions and change the details because the point is personal transformation, which is demonstrated by the characters’ actions. FWTW when these patterns play out, they usually do it in a way that I had not anticipated, but that doesn’t stop me from trying to predict them. ;~)

                    • 394 Serena
                      June 20, 2010 at 5:34 pm

                      They usually do surprise me, so yeah gods only know what is going to happen I just think in this case if there will be a parallel to season 1 finale it is going to be Sookie’s actions, or at least that’s what I want anyway. lol.

                    • 395 Kathy
                      June 20, 2010 at 6:41 pm

                      Rene, it’s all very interesting I just find it hard to believe they’re thinking that deeply about it.

                      If this is the case, I would really like to hear one of them talk about the show in this fashion. Why keep it such a big secret. Yes, you and Sunny and others seem to be picking this up but I know the general public doesn’t. It would make a fantastic article/interview/ pr angle. I wonder why no journalist has written about it yet.

                      In regards to each episode being a Tarot card. This interests me, as I read them. Which ones? Aside from Laffy reading them, the thought that they’re going through the Major Arcana never entered my mind. Which episode is which card? I’m sure you see the fool in there, since I suppose Sookie is the hero on “the journey” in this case. Do you feel they’re tapping into Joseph Campbell as well?

                    • June 20, 2010 at 7:13 pm

                      Rowling started the alchemy and tarot thing and several fantasy writers have picked it up from her. None of them, that I’m aware of, have talked about it openly including Rowling. I think after the series was complete, she admitted that alchemy was present on some level throughout the series, not just in the plot of the first book. One of CH’s assistants who runs her website did say that Sookie is going through the same transformational process that Harry Potter did, but that CH didn’t like the term alchemy. At this point, I’m not certain if CH is using the tarot structurally in the series, but if TB is, I’m willing to bet it started with CH. There are several articles on my blog about alchemy and the tarot in TB.

                      IMO authors don’t talk about this for a couple of reasons. First, they don’t want to give anything away before the series is finished. The other reason is that the purpose of including alchemy is not so that the reader will notice it. It’s supposed to work on the unconscious level. When you watch Star Wars, you’re not supposed to notice the hero’s journey. When you read Antigone, you’re not supposed to notice the writing techniques that produce an emotional catharsis in the viewer.

                    • June 20, 2010 at 7:36 pm


                      Yes, I think Campbell is in the mix, too. Sookie is following the hero’s journey.

                    • 398 sunnynala
                      June 20, 2010 at 9:48 pm

                      Tara is being preyed on AGAIN (Oh, lord save me.)

                      It can be tiresome to watch but in our society who is more preyed upon and scorned than poor–as in poverty stricken– women, specifically poor black women? Tara represents those in our society with few if any options, who are constantly knocked about and exploited for every drop of humanity, dignity, and hope.

                      Sookie may be working class but she has options- a secure home free and clear and a talent that can be commodified into thousands of dollars a pop. Plus a bond/connections with a powerful community of supes.

                      Both Sookie and Tara have recently suffered a series of deep traumas (which makes them both susceptible to manipulation) that are affecting their behaviors, and while it is true that Tara is handling her problems much more erratically and emotionally at least her emotional turmoil is the result of honest self-assessment. Something Sookie could use a healthy dose of.

                • 399 Mony
                  June 19, 2010 at 2:21 pm

                  sorry i can’t find it *sigh*
                  but maybe was the same you read and he was talking about season 2 and i get confused?mmmm….dunno, sorry!

                  But talking about Bill and Sookie…the NYP ( i guess….) posted an interview where Moyer said that Bill and Sookie will be happy to see each others again (another B/S sex scene? i’ll probably cover my eyes) and he said Eric is gonna do “bad things” this season, of course in Bill’s POV….(everybody want to talk about Eric LOL)

                  • 400 Freyja
                    June 19, 2010 at 3:02 pm

                    Is that interview on the internet somewhere?

                    • 401 Kathy
                      June 19, 2010 at 3:35 pm

                      What he actually says is, (and I’m sorry Freyja I can’t remember where I saw it, but I’ll look) Bill and Sookie will see each other again in the middle of the season and be happy to see each other, THEN HE ADDS, anything can happen after that. Which I took to mean, yeah they’re happy to be reunited, but then the reveal/edict happens….

                    • 402 Kathy
                      June 19, 2010 at 3:41 pm

                      Here it is. It was on the IMDB boards posted by a Bill Lover. See, BL’s read or see something and they only take a partial quote that fits what they want to happen and ignore the rest.

                      It’s at :44

                    • 403 Freyja
                      June 19, 2010 at 4:08 pm

                      Ok thanks Kathy 🙂 Yes like AB said, happy relationship are sweet in real life but it just doesn’t function well on TV 😉 Thank god for that, no more Sookie/Bill.

      • June 17, 2010 at 9:07 pm

        gosh, whatever shall we do without her?

        pining away over here!

    • June 17, 2010 at 4:59 pm

      Guys, I can’t express enough how happy I am that you all replied to this, when I saw it I decided I wouldn’t reply in case I got a hate mail reply back!

    • 406 Angie
      June 18, 2010 at 6:44 am

      Oh, honey, I am most certainly able to suspend my social mores and enjoy the show and the books the way they are intended to be enjoyed. But you can’t deny the fact that Bill did rape Sookie, and if you think it should be excused because he was a vampire… well, as you say, it is all vampire fiction, but still, that doesn’t make it any less fucked up. Again, I happen to like fucked-up stories, so I don’t mind. But personally, I prefer the ruthless, bad-ass vampire who didn’t actually rape the female protagonist that he claimed to love, thanks.

  41. 407 Obladee
    June 17, 2010 at 11:11 am

    A quote from Anna Paquin – – –

    “I get a kick out it, but the actual blood makes me want to gag!” Paquin tells Self in its July issue on newsstands Tuesday. “It’s kind of a sweet corn syrup, I think, with an aftertaste that’s less than pleasant after the 10th take,” she adds of filming scene for the popular HBO series. “In season one, they asked me if I wanted sugar or sugar-free. I was like, ‘Sugar-free blood? Sounds great!’”

    Big mistake: “It only tastes like the latex tubes it’s coming through,” says Paquin, who in one particular scene had to feed “ravenously from Bill’s arm so I drank probably a gallon. Never again.”

    Latex tubes! It sounds like Eric might be in for some blood letting in the last ep, like a lot of you suggested….

  42. 409 Mony
    June 17, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    Ok so since thi is In topic i’ve found other pics with Anna and a man completley burned!!!
    i can’t figure it out who he is….maybe Alexander or his stunt(for me is his stunt)…but all the things he has on his arms and backs makes me think he is Alex…
    I try to let here the link…but i don’t know if it will appear..

    • 410 Mony
      June 17, 2010 at 1:22 pm

      or Denis….seriously it’s not easy to know….he’s not that tall as Alex, but even his stunt is not tall as him…..

    • June 17, 2010 at 1:37 pm

      CRISPY BILL’D!!!!

      Fuck me drunk, there’s consistency after all!!

      That’s Denis O’Hare. You can tell with the profile on the second link.


    • 418 dsm
      June 17, 2010 at 1:51 pm

      Was reading another site (I’m sorry!) and someone who was at the actual filming the past two days reported that the tubes were for smoke. Alex wore a jacket over them. They filmed Alex and Denis laying in the Fangtasia parking lot (in daylight) with Godric standing over them. Then later they had Sookie standing over them.

      So burned up man might be either Alex or Denis.

      • June 17, 2010 at 1:56 pm

        I would say they both end up a la Crispy Bill.

        But that is definitely Dennis O’Hare in the pics w/Anna Paquin. There’s no confusing his profile with AS.

        • 420 Kathy
          June 17, 2010 at 2:05 pm

          Of course, you know, as we’ve been saying….that goes against what Godric said to Sookie. The older, the quicker they go poof! Russell is what 1500 years older than Godric? Thank you TB writers for your consistancy.

    • 421 Freyja
      June 17, 2010 at 2:23 pm

      Holy smokes!!! That has to be Denis, Alex is much taller. But how come he doesn’t go up in blue flames in 5 seconds like Godric?

      • 422 Kathy
        June 17, 2010 at 7:34 pm

        Wasn’t convenient for the writers. I believe I read Russell servives the season. See? “If what we established earlier doesn’t work for us now we’ll just change it! Surely none of the audience will notice….except those smart alecks on SVB!”

        • 423 LLE
          June 17, 2010 at 7:50 pm

          All of the stories are plot purposes, meanwhile, they change every season. The writers don’t pay intention what they are are writing.

    • June 17, 2010 at 4:09 pm

      that is some good makeup, because i immediately cringed.

  43. 425 liv
    June 17, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Someone who was there at the filming said that “those tubes were for smoke, he has his jacket on over them and was laying down with Dennis O’hare and they were out in the sun. Godric was standing over Eric … and then later they were filming them again, only this time with Sookie standing over them. It was filmed outside of Fangtasia, in the parking lot.” – sherrie90630

    • June 17, 2010 at 1:46 pm

      Oooo so it gets like progressively worse as they fight, and Eric hallucinates that Sookie is Godric?! Damn why does the finale have to be 11 weeks away!

      • 427 Liz
        June 18, 2010 at 6:03 am

        well, even if it was filmed in the day……they could edit it to make it nighttime. Im still on my conspiracy that Sookie may be the cause of Lousiana fried vampires, via her glowy hands…..

        • 428 Dee
          June 18, 2010 at 6:09 am

          Doing that to Eric though?

          • 429 Liz
            June 18, 2010 at 6:19 am

            i havent worked it all out yet, but Sookies hands glowed light, imo that could mean trouble for a vampire, and being she hasnt leaned to control it yet, anything is possible.
            I am pretty confident it is a weapon she will be able to use against vamps at some point, and why bother introduce it, if it doesnt go anywhere

            • 430 Dee
              June 18, 2010 at 6:20 am

              Ok just work out a theory where she doesn’t hurt Eric though lol everyone else she can do that to.

    • 431 Mony
      June 17, 2010 at 1:48 pm

      so something is gonna happen at Fangtasia…..OMFG!
      i dunno what expect from this finela…most af all becouse we’re just at the beginning!!!!!!

      btw….just to tell you this: next episode Eric and Sookie won’t disappoint you….their lines, his lines with her are so BE….i zip up my mouth right now!!

      • 432 Kathy
        June 17, 2010 at 2:02 pm

        So, here’s my S4 prediction, which is close to what I’ve been saying. Eric’s fried to a crisp, and we get AE. Sookie finds him and takes care of him. She hides him because QSA/Magister/AVL/FOTS think he’s met the sun, so won’t be looking for him. She will do this because he helped her in the end with Bill and/or saved her life AGAIN and is finally grateful. I still say S/B will be together next season, and if Bill finds out she’s taking care of Eric it will drive Bill batty (please excuse the pun) and humor will insue. But there will be no shower scene.

        However SVB, since Eric got crispy, maybe his hair will grow back LONGER and BLONDER!!!!! (well I can only hope!!)

        • 433 Freyja
          June 17, 2010 at 2:26 pm

          Well, good prediction, but I really hope S/B will be over at that time. I’d rather have Bill whining for her to come back to him the whole season, while not knowing that she’s stashing Eric in her house… and I’m optimistic for the shower scene 😉

          • 434 Mony
            June 17, 2010 at 2:47 pm

            CH said that she is optimistic about the shower scene since Alexander loves to be naked!LOL good taste Charlaine!

            • 435 Freyja
              June 17, 2010 at 2:52 pm

              mmm yes 🙂 I think it will happen, optimistic until the end!

              • June 17, 2010 at 2:55 pm

                If we get a shower scene I will throw all of my books on a bonfire.
                You have THAT in writing.

              • June 17, 2010 at 4:56 pm

                I too am determined to stay optimistic! Purely so I can scream and shout when there isn’t one. I think if there isn’t I will actually turn to hate mailing AB. Maybe we should all send him a letter?

                • 441 Lori
                  June 17, 2010 at 10:15 pm

                  Oh man seriously, ask most book readers what they’re fav book/fav scene is and it’s that one, they can’t leave that out can they? If they do count me in with the letter/tweets whatever. They kept the bullet sucking scene so I’m hoping they keep the shower scene and I want Bill/Sookie to be splitsville this season.

        • 442 Millarca
          June 17, 2010 at 10:07 pm

          😀 Works for me!

          She knows from experience with Bill that if you bury a crispy vampire in the soil they heal quite fast.

          Will he have amnesia?

          • 443 ESFAN08
            June 17, 2010 at 10:43 pm

            I remember in Season 1 when Sam buried Bill after he burned he rose the next night, an told Sookie he fed. So we know Eric’s going to have to feed to heal, an my guess Sookie will be giving Eric her Blood since she will be there when this happens. We all know Fangtasia is closed during the Day, an i’m assuming this happens in Fangtasia parking lot. So Sookie will probably be the only Human there. It makes me wonder tho why Sookie is with Eric an Russel during the day at Fangtasia? sounds like Bill’s not around which makes me think the break up does indeed happen. Does this Scene take place at Fangtasia or the Palace? anyone know?

            • 444 LLE
              June 17, 2010 at 10:46 pm

              Sookie thought Bill was dead for two weeks. It was not the next night, it was two weeks later.

              • 445 ESFAN08
                June 17, 2010 at 10:58 pm

                It was the next night cuz Bill showed up hours after Sam took Sookie to the Hospital, cuz everyone left right before Bill showed up. Then it was 2 Weeks later, cuz 2 Weeks later Vampire Marriage became legal in Vermont i believe it was, an Arlene told Sookie her an Bill could get Married. Then that night they found the dead Body in Andy’s Car then it was cliffhanger.

            • 446 ESFAN08
              June 17, 2010 at 10:52 pm

              Also forgot to add i dont see how Eric being burned would cause AE to happen when Bill was burned in Season 1 an he was fine. I still think Eric’s AE will be caused by a Witch it will just be for a different reason then the Book. My guess is SA if she makes it out of the trouble she’s in will have a Witch cast the spell against him. It will either be cuz Bill failed his mission with Sookie, an she doesn’t want Eric to have Sookie, or if SA ends up pinning the V selling on Pam which i have a feeling she does, Eric will go after SA, an maybe Eric helps take down SA, an thats why she’s in the cage to begin with. SA will be furious, an if she has her way i believe she will have a Witch cast the spell against Eric causing AE to happen. I still believe Yvetta will be the Witch to cast the spell it would be so easy since Eric dont seem to think she’s anything to worry about.

        • 447 Lori
          June 17, 2010 at 10:49 pm

          Oh I quite like the predication but that meams no half naked Eric running down the road heading for Sookie……..that would suck, that scene is begging to be a TB cliffhanger for crying out loud.

          • June 18, 2010 at 12:15 am

            It really really is isn’t it. I am wondering, with what we know about the finale apparently bringing all the plot lines together, and the casting call for Holly being introduced as a seer whether we will still get that, it could still be on the cards!

            • 449 LLE
              June 18, 2010 at 12:21 am

              I heard that Sam and Holly will get involved.

              • June 18, 2010 at 12:27 am

                It wouldn’t surprise me, he does need a new interest.

                I think the mention that she is a seer is the important bit though, as clairvoyance is often linked to witchcraft type magic. Could be the little tidbit that adds to a story line which morphs into Eric being cursed and ending up with amnesia.

            • 451 Liz
              June 18, 2010 at 6:39 am

              could Holly be Hallow? That could be who Evveta is working for. Holly may try to exploit Sam, and Eric. Eric kills Evetta, who was spelled and is thus cursed?
              That would be a very different Holly than we know, but Hoyt seems to have a new direction, so her character would have nothing better to do? Holly/Sam would make sense in this scenario, as he is always picking the wrong kind of girl.

              • 452 Kathy
                June 18, 2010 at 11:45 am

                I’d hate it, though, if they made all witches evil. If they do that I hope somehow they bring Amelia in.

                • June 18, 2010 at 7:19 pm

                  I have been really hoping that Amelia will be introduced because I think she brings some real comedy to things 🙂

                  • 454 Kathy
                    June 18, 2010 at 8:07 pm

                    I have a special fondness for her. But I’m worried because she’s not edgy and I’m hoping they don’t make her malevolent if they use her.

        • 455 obladee
          June 18, 2010 at 10:05 pm

          “However SVB, since Eric got crispy, maybe his hair will grow back LONGER and BLONDER!!!!! (well I can only hope!!)”

          Now I really doubt that will happen… I just came across something on another site that says he just got a part in a movie called Battleship that will start filming in Aug…. it says “Alexander Skarsgård will play Kitsch’s brother, a straight and narrow naval officer whom Kitsch, a wildly spirited naval officer, idolizes.” Looks like we are in line for Buzz cut Eric!!!!

          • 456 Liz
            June 19, 2010 at 6:59 am


            • 457 Kathy
              June 19, 2010 at 11:49 am

              Ditto, but not only for the hair. THIS movie will be Alex’s first big Hollywood movie. A movie based on a board game. How do you make a movie based on a game where you say “B2” “A15” and then shout “You sunk my battleship!” How lame is that? It’s just so disappointing.

              • 458 Freyja
                June 19, 2010 at 12:06 pm

                Well Alexander is usually very good at picking roles in movies. He has said that he picks them if the script and his character interests him.
                And remember that the Pirates of the Caribbean was just a ride in Disneyland. The first movie hit the roof.

                • 459 Kathy
                  June 19, 2010 at 1:20 pm

                  Yes, but the Pirates ride at least had some sort of narrative. There were classic lines. The scenes they incorporated into the movie, verbatim were brilliant. There are no lines in a board game except “You sunk my battleship.” And they’re bringing in aliens? So What will they be lobbing pegs at each other like “B12 to the fourth dimension?”

      • 462 Lori
        June 17, 2010 at 10:17 pm

        God and I thought I was excited before I read this lol

  44. 463 Michelle
    June 17, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    I personally would LOVE to see the shower scene!!!

    and i really hope thats s/b are’nt together in season 4 i dont think i could cope!!

  45. 464 Serena
    June 18, 2010 at 12:35 am

    So who does Yvetta work for? I’m going out on a limb and under the direction that everything relates in the end, that Yvetta works for the ‘normal’ drug dealers/gangsters that are a part of the big drug bust in the finale. The character named “T-Dub” could be one of them, whoever the hell he is, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they showed a business frontman, like some sly greasy scumbag.

    They probably deal in other things like human trafficking or money laundering for which QSA has used their services, and Yvetta was once for sale. Since we know Hadley was a drug addict, they may be responsible for her meeting the Queen as well. (Hadley most likely offered sex in exchange for drugs, got strung out beyond usefulness and the traffickers offered her one day to the Queen, who liked her taste and bought her off them, thats my guess anyway).

    But back to Yvetta, if she were not Estonian, Eric would know. But how does an young Estonian female become a spy for anybody, not to mention in rural Louisiana? We know the Queen has a penchant for the ‘unspoiled’ eastern European, her dealers know that as well. So I think she is a ‘failed’ potential QSA slave working off her freedom fees. I think towards the end, someone (maybe Eric) is going to kill her once her cover is blown. This would give Hallow all the excuses in the world to come after Eric, Yvetta would have been an ‘innocent’ in some ways as in she wasn’t a spy by choice.

    And its these people who might help QSA fry RE and Eric in the finale, unless SophieAnn finds a way from her cage to get the Magister to punish them, but I doubt it. Or the mobsters are seeking retribution on their own, but what do traffickers on a whole care about one prostitute? I’d prefer to think the mobsters are helping the Queen in getting her own revenge on those that put her there in that cage, and I think Eric and Russell had a hand in it.

    Tangent Alert: [I think Eric IS going to team with Russell. Unlike Bill, Eric is going to flip allegiances on SA. Bill will try to be noble, excuse me while I barf- blaaagh, but Eric does have something to use against the Queen, the V-selling/debt, a fact RE would be most interested in. Eric would be setting up Russell, thinking that SA would take out Russell for him once RE confronts SA about it, while at the same time he back-stabs Russell to the Queen or the Magister, but instead of Eric getting revenge he gets pulled down along side.] Tangent over.

    QSA having human helpers/gangster friends would be a way for her to prove her relative ‘innocence’ during Eric and Russell’s disappearance, and if they are her only detractors/witnesses against her then that could be her way out of the cage. Also, SA having partners in crime with human traffickers parallels RE’s secret reliance on humans and their ‘New World Order’ thinking. But putting her in a cage? Pshaw, that little birdie can squeak from there and I still can’t believe they would let Hadley anywhere near her. (I wonder if Eric does it as a favor to Sookie?) This could be his downfall. maybe. especially because I potentially correlated Hadley with the dealers already. its possible. Eek.

  46. 465 Dee
    June 18, 2010 at 6:02 am

    OH NO please don’t tell me one of the cliffhangers(since there will be several) will be Eric burned. Waiting sucked this time but my god it will be so much worse waiting for S4 if this is how we last see him

  47. June 18, 2010 at 6:50 am

    no one will actually see his, BUT

    I just watched an interview with Alex where he states that the TB writers are making shit up as they go along O.O that they didnt know how season 2 was going to end when they started…


    i could cry

    and he mentioned he read the first 5 books before filming started on season 1, so good for him


    • 467 Kathy
      June 18, 2010 at 11:49 am

      LOL! Scroll up! I posted the vid. It just goes to prove what I’d been saying all along and I think it’s acutally unfair to the actors and the audience.

      • 468 Kathy
        June 18, 2010 at 11:50 am

        “actually” still drinking my morning coffee!

      • June 18, 2010 at 2:32 pm

        and i’m sorry i didn’t see where you posted it, i get lost in these ginormous threads sometimes ;_; i caught it on livejournal.

        but how!


        my head can’t wrap around that properly.

        oh yeah. his hair looked blond in the video at least? 😀

        • 471 Kathy
          June 18, 2010 at 2:42 pm

          It’s hard to keep up sometimes. I got home from my acting class on Weds night signed on and found there were like 125 posts between when I left work at 5:30 and 9 p.m. LOL! I couldn’t believe it!

          Now we know how they came up with the freaking egg! No writer direction!

          That interview was filmed back in the fall sometime (before they died that blasted horrible hair). I follow the TV Guide guys on Twitter and one mentioned Alex was in the offices. I tweeted “I’m jealous” and he tweeted back he wasn’t into the show, so it didn’t matter much to him. That has to be when they actually filmed it.

          • June 18, 2010 at 3:21 pm

            i actually do a lot of my browsing here on my Droid, normally at the gym, so it’s doubly easy for me to get lost. my other main browsing time is between 1-3 am when i’m not all the way here, either :3

            the weekend the very first “DoD/Abs” picture was released, i was working at a convention and i had my laptop with me. it became a game, refreshing the page and counting the replies going on. When I started work in the morning there were 200-something replies, and by the time i went to bed there were 600+

            it can be tricky keeping up, hehe

          • June 18, 2010 at 11:47 pm

            This interview is from somewhere between August and October 09, going by my hair timeline LOL.

            He is also talking about still working on Straw Dogs which was completed last October.

            I was taken aback by his comments about the writing as well, but last year wasn’t usual – they were working around the writers strike and I recall they were filming the finale when the season was half way through airing.

            This year they are filming the finale as episode 1/2 are airing, so they have much more breathing room in their schedule. I have the impression that last year was a bit of a clusterfuck because of the writers strike, and I tend to attribute at least some of the blame for the mess of the last three episodes to that also.

            They seem to have their heads around where the story should be going this year – everything we’ve seen shows a focus on the vampires/weres and there seems to be very little superfluous bullshit aka Maryann.

            • 474 Kathy
              June 19, 2010 at 3:05 am

              There wasn’t a writer’s strike last year. There was one the year before, 2008 in the beginning of that year. In fact, even the SAG contract was signed by Feb/March of last year. The writer’s strike affected the first season. That’s why Alex was able to play Eric. They were going to start filming TB while he was filming “Generation Kill,” but because of the strike they couldn’t and it was pushed back far enough that he was finished by the time the started.

              • June 19, 2010 at 3:07 am

                You’re right.

                Complete brain FART.

                So what was the delay last year? I distinctly remember that they were still filming when the season was in the middle of airing. And this year, they’re nearly finished already.

                • 476 Kathy
                  June 19, 2010 at 3:12 am

                  I think they were just behind in filming. I don’t think there was a particular reason.

                  • 477 Kathy
                    June 19, 2010 at 3:13 am

                    Though maybe it’s because they freakin’ didn’t know where the damn thing was heading so it took them longer to write that mess.

                    • 478 KLE
                      June 19, 2010 at 9:07 pm

                      In my opinion, I think the fact that TB wasn’t renewed for S3 until July or August of last year could explain the clusterfuck of the Season 2 finale. Basically, they didn’t know until midway through the summer of 2009 whether that episode would be a series finale or a season finale. This could have impacted the writing. Like Sunny mentioined in one of her posts, maybe there were two finales shot. One that was shot in case TB didn’t get picked up for a third season and the one we got with the SFP and Bill’s kidnapping as the cliffhanger.

                • 479 sunnynala
                  June 19, 2010 at 1:29 pm

                  Nobody wants to hear this but I have thought all along that they filmed TWO versions of the maenad killing.

                  Michelle Forbes:

                  That tree is repulsive. Tell us about it.
                  Michelle: It was filled with real meat and reeked as the weeks wore on. There are bobcats and coyotes roaming around that ranch where we shoot, so they had someone sit by the tree with a gun at night to protect it.

                  I find it VERY hard to believe that the 25 (?) minute finale segment took them “weeks” to film. However, MF’s statement makes sense if you figure they filmed two versions.

                  So, I’m thinking they told the actors they weren’t sure which version they were going with, hence Alex stating the writers ‘didn’t know how it was going to end’.

                  • 480 sunnynala
                    June 19, 2010 at 1:33 pm

                    Oh, also the ‘weeks’ to film the 2 versions of the finale segment could account for the fact that they were still filming halfway through s2.

                    • 481 Kathy
                      June 19, 2010 at 3:31 pm

                      LOL! Sunny. That meat tree wasn’t made in a day. It probably took them a week to make it. And it was introduced in episode 10, which means it was in 3 episode @ 2-3 weeks to film. Because they were on “the ranch” they didn’t have to film all the “wedding” scenes as quickly as they would, say, here in New York, where they’re paying for a specific location and have to get the hell out in 1 or 2 days. I can tell you from experience, just one shot can take half a day up to a day. That mess was complicated, all those extras, the huge cast There were tons and tons of scenes in which that tree might have be seen, so whether it was in the shot or not it had to be there.

                      I agree, that mess was a mess and I’m sure that’s why it took them so long to film it, but there are your weeks of rotting meat right there. If they filmed an alternate scene, you know me, I highly doubt we will see it. I think we’re pretty much moving on from Maryann. It would be lovely if it was revealed Eric was the real hero in the MA, I just have my doubts it will be. I don’t even think we’re going to learn exactly where Eric was during that time. My guess? Playing Yatzee.

        • June 18, 2010 at 2:49 pm

          They have to be working from a pretty detailed outline. The mythology and symbolism is too detailed and deep to think otherwise. DOH described how he developed his character in an interview. At first, AB didn’t give him much to go on, he figured RE was a few hundred years old, he researched, talked to AB who coached him which avenues to pursue and which to stay away from, said RE was much much older, and gave him more guidelines about his character, the process was repeated and only then did AB reveal that RE was older than Godric. It’s not a total free for all. It’s a way to keep the creative process dynamic, add layers, and allow as many people as possible to bring something to the party.

          • 483 Freyja
            June 18, 2010 at 2:55 pm

            They must have all the characters/personalities and plot/show and episode outlines prepared before shooting. Then the write each episode. I heard that that is quite common for TV series. In the interview that AS was with other actors from another series, they were talking about just that!

            • 484 Kathy
              June 18, 2010 at 3:34 pm

              If bibles are written for all the characters, then why didn’t Kristen know her character was bi until Aubry got to that part in the books and told her? And many of actors have said when they have flash-backs, many times, they’re surprised by their character’s history. That should all be out there for them to help them build their charcters before they’re given “story” scripts.

              As an actor, any little scrap of information helps, knowing you’re bi informs how you play every single scene. Or, IDK, perhaps knowing about the WWII flashback (history) might have changed how Alex played all those scenes with Godric in Season 2. I’m primarily a theatre actor, so it’s a different and in my mind a richer approach, but I’ve done a bit of film and because your filming scenes in reverse or sideways order it helps to know as much as possible about your character and thier relation to the other characters so that you can give the truest performance possible. And it think it gyps the audience and the actors when you don’t give the actors that information. JMHO.

          • June 18, 2010 at 3:16 pm

            well that makes me feel better, then 🙂

        • 486 Freyja
          June 18, 2010 at 2:49 pm

          That video is from last year. I got the impression from AB that this season is much more planned. The way he was talking about the writers working all together for the whole picture, and the walls literally paved with sketches and scenes… I think they are more prepared this season. Last season they had problems with the last 3 episodes, they were late with the production and really, those episodes were the worst of the whole season!

          • June 18, 2010 at 3:23 pm

            yes, those last 3 eps were… meh.

            my friend got me started on season 1.
            we watched half of season 2.
            then i proceeded to read books 1 – 9, and then i finished season 2 and was completely WTF over it all.

  48. 488 Chat_Noir
    June 18, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    I’m a little worried by these crispy viking pictures because, like so many of you, AE is something that I have really, really been looking forward to. The thought of that (and the shower scene /fans self) kept me going throughout all of Bill’s jealous bellowing and the maenad madness. Even when I was watching the super hot “trade the sun for the moon and stars” dream sequence (/fans self even harder) I was thinking to myself that Alex’s soft and unstyled hair in that scene would be fabulous for adding to the image of a lost and vulnerable AE as it made him seem so young and boyish and drew a definate distinction between the tightly controlled Sheriff personna and the real vamp behind the power play. I’m going to be mightily unimpressed if we don’t get a true AE set up and shower scene (/comes close to fainting)and one of my other favourite book scenarios, the battle at QSA’s palace. Aside from the fact that it has one of my favourite Eric moments (“Bowling for vampires!”) I think we both need and deserve to see some hot sword swinging viking action! (/faints dead away)

  49. 494 Dee
    June 18, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Ok there is one thing I am confused about. There was a spoiler that vamps come out of the sky and jump on Sookie’s car and rip open the top of her car. In this finale spoiler pic with Sookie and a burned person her car seems fine. So what happens to Sookie with those vamps on her car happens after these scenes with crispy RE and crispy Eric and Godric maybe shown as a vamp angel lol. That is interesting if that happens because then I wonder how this all plays out.

    • 495 Serena
      June 18, 2010 at 8:28 pm

      IDK, but I just read an interview where Kristin Bauer says last week she walked in on a naked AS. So he’s naked again in either 11 or 12, yay for Skarsporn, but soo confusing! @.@ (And it did seem to be a recent article).

      I would say the descent of the vamps on her car happens after she rescues them, although that doesn’t make sense if its daytime. But, it doesn’t make much sense that Sookie would be showing up at Fangtasia’s door at sunrise either.

      • 496 Serena
        June 18, 2010 at 8:35 pm

        BTW, the KB interview is in the NY Post, I couldn’t remember where I had found it.

        • 497 Mony
          June 19, 2010 at 12:39 am

          that’s what she said.

          PW: Since you mention it, you walked in on Alexander Skarsgard in a very compromising situation last week.
          Kristin: Yes, speaking of eye candy [laughs]. For hours, I just kept walking in and walking out on naked Alex.

          • 498 Kathy
            June 19, 2010 at 3:09 am

            I think she was talking about last week’s episode. Not filming last week.

            • 499 Mony
              June 19, 2010 at 8:50 am

              Yes….she was defenitly talking about last week episode with Yvetta and Eric…not something new…especially becouse all starts with a question from the journalist who couldn’t know what they were filming at the moment and Kristin didin’t even mention it…

            • 500 Serena
              June 19, 2010 at 8:57 am

              Oh, yeah you’re right. Der. I guess I got excited fer nothing. Hehe.

      • 501 Freyja
        June 18, 2010 at 8:36 pm

        oh more Skarsporn yumm 😀 More f***** Yvetta?

        • 502 Mony
          June 19, 2010 at 12:32 am

          oh god save for more turbo-hammer sex with Yvetta XD
          i don’t think he will get involved with her in that way again….but if Pam was there…well maybe…or maybe it’s just Talbot and Eric scene or…i don’t know…i have no idea!!His punishment….?

      • 503 Dee
        June 18, 2010 at 8:48 pm

        It doesn’t make sense, but ok I’m glad the show might not end with this being the last thing we see. Sookie’s car is fine here so there will be more scenes after this. Did they say who else was in that scene with the vamps on her car? I know somebody on here mentioned Eric and RE are in that scene also but it didn’t say that in the article I read about that scene but maybe it was mentioned elsewhere.

        • 504 Serena
          June 18, 2010 at 11:05 pm

          Where’d we hear there were flying vamps on top of her car? I can’t remember or find it..

          But I think we can rejoice that whatever the reason Sookie is driving to Shreveport, she’s Bill free 🙂 Maybe the flying vamps took him to Peru, ha!

          • 505 Dee
            June 18, 2010 at 11:45 pm

            Damn! I can’t remember which site it was on, I thought I bookmarked it but guess I didn’t. Maybe somebody will come along who remembers the site but all I remember is Sookie was somewhere near a cabin out in the middle of nowhere and vamps came flying out of the sky and land on the roof of her car and rip top of her car off. Then on here someone mentioned Eric and RE were in the scene but not sure where they heard that from.

            LMFAO Serena, well adios Bill

            On a more serious note, seeing Eric like this and Godric coming to him oh no I think it will be another tear jerker like the rooftop scene.

            • 506 legalease
              June 19, 2010 at 1:40 am

              There was a description of that scene in the Daily Beast article that ran last week:

              “Forty-five minutes north of Los Angeles, a desolate ranch is the setting for a deadly encounter. Vampires descend from the sky onto Sookie Stackhouse’s trademark yellow 1982 Honda and, as Sookie lets out a spine-tingling scream, one bloodsucker places his palm down on the hood of the car, sending its body flipping upward before it comes crashing back down.”


              I’m not sure where the cabin comes in, or the vamps ripping the top off of Sookie’s car. This article says that it is flipped over, but it looks fine in those finale pics so maybe they are filming out of sequence. AS, AP and DO were interviewed on set and SM was interviewed over the phone, so he doesn’t seem to be in this scene. Why are vamps descending from the sky like ninjas? It doesn’t look like Bill is in this scene or the scene at Fangtasia, I wonder what is he up to when all hell is breaking loose?

              • 507 Dee
                June 19, 2010 at 5:53 am

                Ah ok it flips over, I don’t know why I remembered they rip the top off lol. But still to flip it over I’m sure there is damage to the car and the car looks fine here. Unless Sookie gets it fixed during all this chaos which I doubt haha. Thank you though for the clarification. That is weird, wonder where Bill is and wonder who else is there with Sookie, I really hope it’s Eric.

                LMFAO seriously these are like Ninja vamps

              • 508 Serena
                June 19, 2010 at 9:18 am

                I can only think these vampires are sent from the Magister or they are part of a hostile takeover of LA, like Nevada. But why are they after Sookie?

                The description of the car to me doesn’t mean its totaled -if the vamp is stopping it from the front then maybe the back wheels go up and the car thuds back down to the ground. The word flip might be misleading. I dunno, Stupid spoilers. waiting still effing sucks.

              • 509 sunnynala
                June 19, 2010 at 12:27 pm

                The site where they film Sookie’s house has been referred to as a ‘ranch’.

                Michelle Forbes:

                That tree is repulsive. Tell us about it.
                Michelle: It was filled with real meat and reeked as the weeks wore on. There are bobcats and coyotes roaming around that ranch where we shoot, so they had someone sit by the tree with a gun at night to protect it.

  50. 510 Dee
    June 19, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    MAJOR SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!! Ok here is what somebody who was there and watched them film had to say

    So, I was there on Monday and Tuesday when they were filming these scenes and so you know, the burned guy talking to Sookie is Russell Edgington (Dennis O’Hare) The King of Mississippi. He is laying on the ground next to Eric out in the sun. Godric is standing over him but unfortunately, we weren’t close enough to hear what the dialogue. Then Sookie is standing over them and uses her fairie power to throw Russell into a wall. Then she grabs a silver chain, runs over and drags him across the ground. They also were filming Alcide (Joe Manganiello) , but all he did was get out of a blue truck and walk into Fangtasia. Later on Tuesday evening, they were filming a fight scene between Bill and Eric in front of Fangtasia. As I said, we coudn’t hear any of the dialogue, so we are still not sure what is happening and why Godric appears to Eric. I do have to say, we got to meet Stephen Moyer and we took pictures with him. He is an absolute doll and was so nice to all of us!

    Eric and Bill fight WOW

    • 511 Serena
      June 19, 2010 at 7:27 pm

      Fairy power? like the microwave fingers? Grr, I’m not liking that they are giving her ‘powers,’ where does Claudine fit in if Sookie is so magical? But I do like the fact she is going badass against Russell in support of Eric. ^^’

      I thought Joe M. said his filming was over?

      • 512 Dee
        June 19, 2010 at 7:32 pm

        Good question Serena, now this is just a guess obviously but I know claudine is in episode 12 so maybe what we see is Claudine transferring her powers to Sookie, did that even make sense lol. But most likely Sookie has these powers somehow since I think AB said they will further explore Sookie’s powers.

        I know I LOOOOVE that it sounds like she is protecting Eric and going badass on Russell for what he did to Eric.

        I really wanna know about this Bill and Eric fight too lol

    • 513 Serena
      June 19, 2010 at 7:40 pm

      Oh I forgot to say, good scoop Dee, 🙂

      I was starting to wonder when we’d get a mention of Bill in all this.. So should we start taking bets on what the fight is about. My money goes on the edict or something related to the Queen. Or something Bill did,… I hope Eric gets a few licks in, ..

      • 514 Dee
        June 19, 2010 at 7:47 pm

        I happen to see without even looking for it lol but glad I did lol

        Yeah why do they fight and by fight I’m taking it as physical and if so well Eric is 1,000 years old so good luck Bill lol. As to why they fight, maybe Bill does flip out on Eric for telling Sookie about the edict or maybe Bill does rat out Eric about the V.

        • 515 Dee
          June 20, 2010 at 4:25 pm

          I’ve been trying to think of what is going on in the Eric/Sookie/RE scene and instead of theories I just have so many questions. If Eric is saving Sookie, then from who? RE? why would RE attack Sookie in the daytime? Is Sookie saving Eric? then again why would she need to do so in the daytime and why would she even be at Fangtasia during the day? Maybe it is evening like someone said but I don’t think so because really seems like they are burning in the sun. Does Sookie show up and RE and Eric are both out there already, I understand them having their problems but I can’t see where it would be suicide for both or either one. Then I see restraints behind Eric in the pics above, is Eric being punished for the V. That would explain why he would be out in the daytime but not RE though. Unless the restraints we saw are for Godric for a hover effect but usually those look different. This just has me so confused and no matter which scenario I play out, neither really makes sense but then again I think it’s meant to surprise us so might be something we wouldn’t even think about.

          • 516 Serena
            June 20, 2010 at 4:51 pm

            I know Dee, this brings up so many more questions, the main one for me at least, is how Eric would be restrained, who does it and how? Especially since he is on his home turf. It must be something of a blindside attack if its not the Magister or unless that is he volunteered for it, but I doubt that.

            And I don’t think he is punished by the Magister for the V selling, I think that plot will have wrapped up by then and this is Russell coming back for vengeance against Eric for Talbot or whatever other trouble Eric has gotten Russell into, assuming he is the reason for RE’s disappearance. The Magister could be punishing him for something else, but when and why is RE there too?

            • 517 Dee
              June 20, 2010 at 4:57 pm

              So true, I would think if Eric is punished for selling V, it would come before episode 12.

              Are RE and Eric fighting until dawn, but I can’t understand them fighting each other just for both of them to die. Unless they both have a death wish which I hope not.

              What we do know is RE is missing in episode 10, so he probably does come to Fangtasia for revenge on Eric. Is it possible that with Talbot gone he does have a death wish and just doesn’t care? I hope RE doesn’t turn out to be suicidal because he lost Talbot. We know that humans will vandalize Fangtasia, do they have anything to do with this somehow? And where does the drug raid play into this.

              • 518 Serena
                June 20, 2010 at 5:31 pm

                About the drug raid, I dunno, I wonder who is there… what characters have connections to drugs? Lets see, Lafayette, the Hot Shot community, so Crystal, Calvin Norris, Felton Norris, Jason by extension, and maybe Jesus by extension as well. There could be others that we can surmise have connections to drugs, Hadley, Hallow, and maybe Yvetta and QSA too. I don’t think Pam and Eric would be there, because again I think their involvement in V-dealing would be over at this point.

                The humans could have something to do with the vandalism and the attack, but if they did how does RE fit in to it? I’m probably reading too much into graffiti, but I’m surprised there are no penises or other cartoon shaped things – to me this means it wasn’t done by punks or gangbangers or kids, but by either the FOS or someone who doesn’t know what derogatory graffiti should look like, LOL. So to that end, the vandalism is probably not related to the drug raid.

                • 519 Dee
                  June 20, 2010 at 8:16 pm

                  There might be some connection with the humans attacking vamps that we’re just not seeing yet. The reason I say this is because the attacks come after fangbangers are found dead and from the trailers it seems like RE has some involvement in this. It’s what he wants, he wants humans to go against vamps because he is trying to prove some point that humans and vamps can’t live amongst one another. Maybe Fangtasia gets attacked and it’s all RE doing. But then even with this scenario there is still a piece missing to the puzzle. Why is Sookie there, why would RE risk his own life to hurt Eric, unless it’s what I said above and he is just suicidal at this point. But I don’t buy it because he replaces Talbot so shows he has the will to keep on going if he is thinking of replacing him. There is one person left and that is QSA, can she be behind any of this.

                  • 520 Dee
                    June 20, 2010 at 8:23 pm

                    Wait, it’s Eric who will get revenge and supposedly takes just about the whole season so maybe even up until the season finale. This might be Eric’s plan somehow. Maybe he lures RE somehow but have no clue how. Does Sookie know Eric’s plan? would explain why she is there. Would even explain why Eric has a lawyer write up a will. I’m thinking this might be it if Eric gets his revenge and we think it’s RE he is after and now we see RE is burned for season finale. Eric succeeds in getting vengeance but unfortunately he gets hurts too.

                  • 521 Serena
                    June 20, 2010 at 8:58 pm

                    I think QSA might be behind this, but how does she get out of her cage? She needs vamps on the ground somehow or minions of some sort.

                    RE goes missing the same time Eric drafts the will, so Eric has to know that Russell is after him or its more like that Eric has failed at getting revenge and that RE is still alive and Eric knows it or thinks it.

                    I wonder if Tony the Talbot replacement is alive at this point, I know RE has sex with him, but does he drain him too? prob.

                    • 522 Dee
                      June 20, 2010 at 10:57 pm

                      Good point, Eric might make out the will after he hears about RE disappearance, knowing RE will come after him. I figured he decides to do something that might be dangerous but might be simply because of this fact.

                      Yeah what the hell happens to QSA, she might get out somehow. Not 100% sure she is involved but it is possible.

            • June 20, 2010 at 11:12 pm

              Maybe the answer to the how they restrain Eric is similar to the way the hillbilly’s get him under the net at the petrol station, pure distracted mind. Eric has already proven in TB that he sometimes lets his emotions get the better of him, so maybe this is again one of these times…. That or like how he gets restrained from saving Sookie in the books… pure numbers???

      • 524 sunnynala
        June 19, 2010 at 7:49 pm

        A few licks in? Bill will be lucky to come out of it alive! lol. The only reason he’ll survive a fight with Eric is because Eric will not kill him on account of Sookie.

        • 525 Serena
          June 19, 2010 at 7:52 pm

          Lol, well yes before Sookie breaks it up.. I’m worried they make the fight like the one in DAG, where Sookie gets knocked out because of Bill and Quinn fighting… hmm I wonder.

          • 526 Dee
            June 19, 2010 at 7:54 pm

            It’s weird because the person who was there and watched them film didn’t say anything about Sookie being there during the Eric/Bill fight. So there is a change she might not even be there when this happens. It’s possible they just left that part out but if something were to happen such as her stopping the fight then I think she would’ve mentioned it. Unless they filmed that part at another time for some reason i can’t even think of lol.

            • 527 Serena
              June 19, 2010 at 8:09 pm

              That is weird, in her absence I don’t see a reason for Bill and Eric to stop fighting until Bill is dead.. someone has to intervene.

              Why would Bill take on Eric anyways? He knows he’ll lose.. maybe he is suicidal after Sookie finds out.. this makes it seem like Eric is the one to tell her about the edict..

              • 528 Dee
                June 19, 2010 at 8:22 pm

                Yeah I was wondering who the instigator of the fight is, but if it’s at Fangtasia, seems like Bill instigates the fight.

                • 529 Serena
                  June 19, 2010 at 8:28 pm

                  Yeah I think it has to be Bill. I bet he challenges Eric to a duel, “I am appalled at your barbarism. Let’s settle this outside, Northman.” Where is Pennyd when you need her? lol.

                  • 530 legalease
                    June 19, 2010 at 8:42 pm

                    The only thing that would make it even more Bill-like would be if he brought a glove with him and slapped Eric with it. 🙂

                    If this is some kind of physical altercation, I bet AS and SM had fun filming it. I know they’re friends and guys seem to always love that kind of stuff!

                  • 531 Freyja
                    June 19, 2010 at 8:42 pm

                    hahaha 🙂 Could be Bill sees some smootsie 😉

              • 532 Jo
                June 19, 2010 at 8:25 pm

                you forget that TB does not follow the logic or canon!
                If they want to make the Bill stronger than Eric, why not? after all, Eric has only 1000 years, is the Sheriff and was a Viking warrior as he was human.
                Bill was a soldier against her will and only wore a gun and has only 170 years.
                So it’s pretty much all of them cheer the will and convenience of the screenplay.
                they must think that all viewers are all fools or are unemployed workers who are seeing the details “insignificant” because this is a vampire story blah blah blah
                Sorry for the rant, but I’m possessed with the mere possibility of the Bill even manage to hit a punch at Eric. The first does not count because Eric was obviously too preoccupied with Godric, to give attention to the bite of an insect.

                • 533 Dee
                  June 19, 2010 at 8:34 pm

                  I’m not sure how physical it gets, reading what this person said, she says that Eric and Bill have a fight but she couldn’t hear the dialogue so seems like a lot of it might be arguing. If it got very physical then I think she would’ve added those details, such as Bill does this to Eric or Eric did this to Bill.

                  • 534 Dee
                    June 19, 2010 at 8:36 pm

                    Of course I think of things after I reply, forgot to say that she also couldn’t hear what they said so whatever she saw was enough to let her know it was a fight. So most likely does get physical.

                • 535 ESFAN08
                  June 19, 2010 at 8:41 pm

                  Eric is stronger then Bill so he doesn’t stand a chance against Eric, this was pointed out that the older a Vampire is the stronger they are. Bill told Sookie in Season 1 that he couldn’t take Malcolm in a fight cuz he’s alot older, an stronger then him. Bill was always hesitant with Eric till Season 2 when he punched him, an i believe Bill had the balls to do it then cuz of how upset Eric was. I think Eric allowed the punch for 2 reasons being he was to upset over Godric, an didn’t wanna deal with Bill then, an he let him have a punch since Eric is trying to steal Sookie away from Bill, so he let Bill get a punch in on him. Bill will instigate this fight, an have the balls to do it cuz its about Sookie more then likely. Eric either reveals the edict to Sookie, or when Bill loses Sookie cuz i do believe him an Sookie will split by the end of the Season. Bill snaps, an blames Eric since this seemed to start when Eric called in Lorena. So Bill will feel like had Eric not called in Lorenan maybe none of this would of happened. I bet Lorena was staying in Mississippi with Russell, an went back an told Russell about what happened with Bill, an mentioned Eric saying Sookie was more then Human, which would make sense as to why Russell sends Franklin Mott to investigate Bill an Sookie, meanwhile Russell sends the Weres to kidnap Bill. So thats my take on iot.

                  • 536 Jo
                    June 19, 2010 at 8:53 pm

                    Bill also said in the first season that a vampire could not change their appearance. He was lucky to be shaved before becoming a vampire.
                    And we all know what happened …

                • June 19, 2010 at 10:51 pm

                  i know we are waaaaay far away from book canon here, but I recall Bill telling Sookie he might be able to injure Eric in a fight, if he got lucky.

                • June 19, 2010 at 11:05 pm

                  not that it matters, but

                  “I am not as strong as Eric, but I’m not a new vampire. He might get badly hurt in a fight with me, or I might even win if I got lucky.”

              • 539 legalease
                June 19, 2010 at 8:37 pm

                Why do all boy/girl/boy triangles always end up in a big ol’ boy fight? 🙄

                If they try to portray this fight as evenly matched, I’m going to be really pissed. Not as an Eric fan, but from what the show has established regarding both of these characters. Eric should have the advantage in every possible way. He’s much, much older, which according to the show’s own mythology means that he’s much stronger than Bill. He’s also taller, broader and more muscular. As a human, he was a warrior who fought hand-to-hand and used heavy swords and axes. As a human, Bill fought in a war in which his primary weapon was a firearm. If Sookie isn’t there to break it up or influence it in some way, how on earth would Bill survive unless Eric shows him some mercy?

                Having said that, Im sure that AB will forget everything he’s already established in order to have Bill save some face. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Bill is the instigator since I don’t think he’s anywhere near ready to start accepting responsibility for his actions. Whatever happens to push Sookie away will be Eric’s fault, I’m sure. 🙄

                • 540 Dee
                  June 19, 2010 at 8:58 pm

                  Yeah I don’t think TB will mess up with this and show bill even have a chance in a fight against Eric. I will admit they have made mistakes in other ways but I can’t see them letting Bill even stand a chance. I don’t think it’s a head on fight because Eric would destroy Bill and yes not saying it as an Eric fan but just a fact.

                • 541 sunnynala
                  June 19, 2010 at 10:15 pm

                  Eric will let Bill live because he doesn’t want Sookie hating him for killing Bill. That is the ONLY reason Bill would survive a fight with Eric in any conceivable context, including if Eric was already injured and on his last legs. (LOL)

      • 543 Dee
        June 19, 2010 at 8:12 pm

        You’re welcome! it’s too bad she didn’t hear the dialogue but then again maybe it’s better off. Still leaves us in suspense

  51. 544 Dee
    June 19, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    I also love that we’re going to see more of Book Sookie coming through who can take care of herself and is badass.

    Do you think the Bill and Eric fight is before this RE/Eric/Sookie scene? I think it would be, makes sense but then again who the hell knows what they’ll do

    • 545 Serena
      June 19, 2010 at 7:46 pm

      I dunno, there seems to be so much going down at Fangtasia. It might be a gamble, but I’ll say yes, the fight with Bill and Eric is before Russell’s fight with Eric.. For as dense and frustrating Bill is at times, he is a survivalist, so he would make sure to be home before dawn.. there has to be some reason that Sookie is at Fangtasia at that time, whether she is running to Eric for help or coming to Bill’s rescue, or has been up all night because of a situation.

      You know what this reminds me of? Eric being attacked by Sigebert, Sookie might have been at Fangtasia’s earlier but decides to head back towards Fangtasia because she feels something is wrong.. I know they don’t have the BB yet, but this could be one of the rare instances she reads Eric’s mind.

      • 546 Serena
        June 19, 2010 at 7:49 pm

        That is if they ever remember she is a telepath, lol.

      • 547 Dee
        June 19, 2010 at 7:50 pm

        Oh wow good call, this is just like the time she helps Eric out when Sigebert attacked. It’s funny because I was just thinking how Eric should’ve avoided Fangtasia this season, the poor guy can’t catch a break haha. He has the magister and the Queen coming to visit him, Sookie running in thinking he kidnapped Bill(i’m sure he doesn’t mind Sookie dropping by though) Nan visits him, Magister will come back at one point we know, Alcide dropping by, Bill fighting him, RE is there. Fangtasia has all the action this season lol.

      • 549 Serena
        June 19, 2010 at 8:00 pm

        Its not just the circumstance of Sookie coming to Eric’s aid, its also the fact that Russell went underground, they think he’s missing or dead right? And there appears to be a possible takeover or something at Sookie’s house.. this is really starting to smell like book 8.

        • 550 Dee
          June 19, 2010 at 8:08 pm

          Good point Bobsgran, first all the action was at Merlottes and this season it’s fangtasia.

          Serena-Yeah RE is missing in episode 10, so guess he comes back to Fangtasia for payback? You think it will be like the takeover? It’s quite possible.

          Legalease-LOL seriously Sookie run over and cover poor Eric, It’s gonna be hard watching him fry like that 😦

          • 551 legalease
            June 19, 2010 at 8:23 pm

            I know! Just reading the description and seeing the pics is already making me anxious and queasy, imagine seeing it on screen!

        • 552 Serena
          June 19, 2010 at 8:16 pm

          I dunno. It could be a takeover or a summons of some sort, or merely payback for Talbot or something, but why else are multiple vampires attacking Sookie except as a way to get to Eric, cuz everything revolves around him, lol.. but his attachment to her is something Yvetta knows about. Hmm.

          • 553 Dee
            June 19, 2010 at 8:28 pm

            Yeah these flying vamps are throwing me off too. It has to do with Eric, I can’t see why else they would come after her. Is it possible she assists in Talbot’s death? I know it’s a bit out there so not sure how possible it is but just trying to think of several options.

            • 554 Freyja
              June 19, 2010 at 8:52 pm

              Yes like the ‘pirate’ in book 5 (don’t remember the name), that was because LS maker wanted to take from Eric like he took from him.

            • 555 Serena
              June 19, 2010 at 8:54 pm

              I am thinking Talbot dies earlier than later,.. if in episode 6 RE tells Eric his plans and leaves Talbot home alone watching Eric and Sookie, where Eric then seduces Talbot so Sookie can peek around the mansion, then he could be the vamp splatter in RE mansion, especially if he is witness to Lorena’s death. It could be a two-fer. So maybe it is the Magister who sent them after Sookie..

    • 556 legalease
      June 19, 2010 at 8:02 pm

      Since they are filming on location at the bar that doubles for Fangtasia, maybe these scenes are from different episodes? Like they only had certain days where they could film there so they are shooting all of the external Fangtasia stuff at once and out of sequence? Still, there’s a lot going down there in the last few episodes, wow!

      My first thought is that the Eric and Bill fight is from an earlier scene and the Russell and Eric stuff comes towards the end of the finale, but, this is Bill “Sucker Punch” Compton that we’re talking about, so he may wait until Eric is just about dead to start the fight.

      This definitely sounds like Eric and Russell are out in the sun due to a fight and I’m thrilled that Sookie is kicking some ass here, but I hope she hurries up and throws a blanket on Eric or something because it sounds like he’s just lying there frying poor baby!

      • 557 Freyja
        June 19, 2010 at 8:55 pm

        I love that Sookie is getting some spunk this season!!!! Woohoo 😀 And I like that she has more powers too. This is like when she protected Eric from Siegbert in book 8.

  52. 558 legalease
    June 22, 2010 at 4:09 am

    There’s a new interview with Denis O’Hare on tvguide.com in which he spills some new tidbits about Russell that put our speculation into an interesting light:

    1) Russell is likely the most powerful vamp we’ve seen on the show. He says that in one scene a vamp attacks him and he just shrugs his shoulder and the vamp is thrown into the ceiling. Doesn’t bode well for Eric if they get into a fight.

    2) He describes the relationship with Talbot as “kind of tragic” and implies that his plotting after Louisiana will cause them to drift apart. I think Talbot will end up staked before Russell leaves for Louisiana.

    3) He says that Russell’s plan is to eventually take over all of the states and become the first vampire president. He plans to start with Louisiana.

    4) “Russell wants to use Bill as a spy to gain insight into Sophie-Anne so he can blackmail her into marrying him. Along the way, he realizes that Sookie is actually the prize, and then he becomes obsessed with her.” I was wondering why Sookie seemed to be involved in the Eric and Russell scenes that we’ve been hearing about like the scene in this post and the scene filmed on the ranch with the ninja vamps. This will give Eric added incentive to go after Russell. I highly doubt that Russell has any sexual interest in her, so he must learn about the fae heritage. I wonder if Bill’s file of foreshadowing will be enough to tip him off. Maybe FM learns enough from Tara and the rest of his investigation.

    5) He says that he’s been betrayed by both Bill and Eric “at least a couple of times at this point”. After last night’s episode, I don’t think Eric knows yet that it’s Russell that he’s after and I don’t think Russell will recognize that it was Eric’s father/family that he had slaughtered over 1,000 years ago. This will allow Eric to appear as if he’s aligning with Russell only to stab him in the back. If Bill does pledge his allegiance to Russell, I’m sure he will also turn on him. Sounds to me like this season will be full of twists and double agents.

    6) “Russell loves the werewolves. To him, it goes back to something very ancient. In the ancient druid culture, there are two animals that are twinned: the raven and the wolf. Russell’s real name is a word for “raven” in an ancient Celtic tongue.”

    7) He will spend a lot of time at Fangtasia and will visit the front porches of many people’s houses. Hmmm…Bill’s house, Sookie’s house, ?….

    • 559 legalease
      June 22, 2010 at 4:17 am

      I also think that Russell’s obsession with Sookie is caused at least in part by his background as a druid and pagan and his reverence towards nature and Sookie being part fairy; or, as a direct parallel to FDC since he’s a king wanting to use a telepath to help him takeover other states. Or, perhaps it’s a bith of both.

      • 560 pennydreadful
        June 22, 2010 at 4:42 am

        legalease- Thanks so much for posting all that information! Despite his cultured gentility, urbane sophistication, and refined manners RE is guaranteed to be one BAMF of a villain! I also doubt that his himbo trophy husband/rentboy, Talbot, is going to take kindly to being casually brushed aside so that RE can fulfill his political aspirations.

        There were quite a few bits of intriguing information in the dinner scene in episode three:

        1. Bill has been in Mississippi before. (Under what circumstances?)
        2. RE asks if Bill is *still* working for QSA. (How long has he been in her employ and what other dirty work has been doing for Sophie Ann?)
        3. RE declares that “Bill is one of the most promising young vampires in the country.” (Considering the shady underbelly of the vamp hierarchy what kind of fuckery did Bill have to engage in to gain that dubious distinction?)
        4. He offers Bill the position of sheriff of area 2…home to “the cactus plantation.” (Renee has a theory that this may be a front for human trafficking where unlucky breathers are farmed for food…and I’m inclined to agree.)

        • 561 Dee
          June 22, 2010 at 4:53 am

          So funny Legalease-I was gonna post the same thing after I saw the interview. So we get a lot more insight on his plans and WOW confirmation that the queen wants Sookie lol what a shocker lol. But even with this information out I still see denial and excuses.

          I am curious about Bill being back in Mississippi too, I hope they’ll explain this in one of the episodes.

          • 562 legalease
            June 22, 2010 at 5:14 am

            Yeah I felt like I had to post it after reading the interview since it ties into a lot of the speculation from the last few days. I found it really interesting that he is obsessed with Sookie, and I wonder what lengths he will go to in order to get her.

            The more I learn about Russell and his true intentions, the more I think the vampire shadow government will be out to stop him. He’s way too power hungry and a direct threat to their interests.

            • 563 Dee
              June 22, 2010 at 5:40 am

              The best part about him becoming obsessed with Sookie and what lengths he will go to in order to get her, is what lengths will Eric go to in order to stop him. Loving the possibilities, first he kills Eric’s family and now he wants Sookie. Oh wait, this might explain the finale. We see RE coming up to Sookie’s car and then we know Eric is also out there and on the ground besides RE, so maybe it is the theory that Eric is saving Sookie. I can only hope since we always have to hear how Bill ran out in daylight to save her *rolls eyes*

        • 564 legalease
          June 22, 2010 at 5:00 am

          All of his loaded comments to Bill were quite intriguing and I hope we’ll get the answers this season. We don’t have much info on what Bill will be up to for the second half of the season except that he gets into a fight with Eric at some point.

          #4 is really interesting because when he said that I was wondering what the hell vamps would prize about a cactus plantation. And, Mississippi doesn’t seem like the ideal place for an actual cactus plantation, that sounds more like the Southwest, but if it was code for something much more nefarious then it makes perfect sense.

          The way that Russell waited until after Talbot left the room and then glanced back at the door before revealing his plan to marry QSA makes me think that Talbot may not be privy to that part of the plan. I could definitely see it causing problems if he finds out about it later.

          I just love how O’Hare has created this rich backstory for the character and how excited he is by the story. I definitely think that Russell will end up being the baddest of all the BAMFs so far.

          • 565 Dee
            June 22, 2010 at 5:07 am

            Seriously we haven’t heard anything at all about Bill’s storyline during second half of the season. We only know about the fight like you said. I really think B/S will be broken up second half of the season so I can’t figure out what role he’ll play in the rest of the plots, Eric’s vengeance and RE/QSA possible marriage or him coming to BT to convince her, the V dealing but then again he might be the rat grrrrr.

        • 566 Millarca
          June 22, 2010 at 5:01 am

          I’m not sure that the reference to the cactus plantation is anything more than a bit of a jest about the real cactus plantation, or nursery, at Edwards, on the outskirts of Jackson. The notion of a cactus plantation in Mississippi, of all places, certainly tickles my funny bone. Maybe the writers have a similar sense of the ridiculous. Of course it could also be a front for human trafficking.

          • 567 legalease
            June 22, 2010 at 5:05 am

            I live only a few hours from Jackson and I had no idea that there was a cactus plantation! I’m surprised that they can thrive in all of that humidity. I could also see vamps finding humor in something that thrives in the sun when they so clearly don’t.

  53. 568 Dee
    June 23, 2010 at 5:00 am

    I’m sure some of you have seen this already but did you see the pic of Eric in Fangtasia and there’s like a swat guy behind him. Could the drug raid be related to Eric and one mentioned for ep 12, it does look that way.

  54. 569 Riz
    June 24, 2010 at 3:45 am

    Some spoilerish tidbits from Ausiello:
    Question: Season 3 has barely started, but I am dying for some True Blood news. Got any to share? —Kelly
    Ausiello: Exec producer Alan Ball teases that a big secret Bill’s “been carrying with him gets revealed at the end of the season.” That noise you hear is the sound of me dipping into the Ausiello Files archives and going Hmm…

    Question: Have you received confirmation from Alan Ball that Talbot and Eric will get, ahem, down to business on True Blood this season? —Rob
    Ausiello: No, but I haven’t received a denial from him, either. “I think one of the things about being a vampire and living for 100 years is you pretty much try everything,” Ball says. “Whether or not [Talbot and Eric] end up getting together I can’t reveal. I’ll definitely tell you that this season is pretty pansexual.” Yeah, got that bit from the first two episodes.

    So we have to wait til the very rnd this season to for the edict to be fully exposed? Please let this mean a real breakup for B/S,

    • June 24, 2010 at 3:57 am

      Even if they do leave it until the end of the season that’s still quite early.

      Sookie didn’t find out about it until book 6 so even though it feels like we’ve been waiting FOREVER for this to come out, it’s still way early. Both in terms of Sookie’s perceptions of Bill and Eric, and in terms of her experience within the supe world generally.

      I’m not sure how I feel about this coming out so early in the game, actually.

      I’m wondering now if this is why we’re seeing such a firm shove in the E/S relationship – a scramble to get it to a believable place by the time the big reveal goes down.

      And I still strongly believe that there will be much more to this edict than what we think, simply because it’s the worst kept secret EVER. We have NO FUCKING IDEA what is coming. And that makes me a bit nervous.

    • 571 Dee
      June 24, 2010 at 4:13 am

      Even if it is revealed at the end of the season, I think it will be obvious to the viewers, well most viewers lol. I’m guessing FM will uncover more info that we will be able to see, they won’t tell us flat out but it will be enough for people to realize why Bill came to BT.

      If this is revealed at end of the season, then is this why there will be a fight between Bill and Eric? I was trying to figure out why they fight and most importantly why it’s Bill that goes to Fangtasia and instigates. I always thought this was a big possibility but I thought it would be revealed sooner this season and maybe there was a different reason for the fight but guess not.

  55. 573 Serena
    June 17, 2010 at 12:28 am

    Oh sweet! You beat out “An Open Letter to Kristen Stewart.” That’s tops in my book. lol.

  56. 574 pennydreadful
    June 17, 2010 at 12:33 am

    Congrats! 😀

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